₦airaland Forum

Jkay187:
Despite global efforts to reduce the mortality rate of
tuberculosis, TB, Nigeria still ranks high among the
seven countries which account majorly for the
disease globally.
Nigeria ranked sixth among the countries with the
global burden. Two of the major challenges (for
Nigeria) have been the inability to detect cases and
the battle against drug resistant variants of the
ailment especially among people living with HIV/
AIDS.
According to the global TB report 2017 released by
World Health Organisation, WHO on Monday, there
were an estimated 10.4 million new TB cases
worldwide in 2016, 10 per cent of which were people
living with HIV/AIDS.
Of these new cases, seven countries are noted to
account for 64 per cent of the total burden. India
topped the chart followed by Indonesia, China,
Philippines, Pakistan, Nigeria and South Africa.
An estimated 1.7 million people died from TB,
including nearly 400 000 people who were co-
infected with HIV. The WHO said there has been a
drop by 4 per cent compared to 2015.
The health agency said global efforts to combat
tuberculosis had saved an estimated 53 million lives
since 2000 and reduced the TB mortality rate by 37
per cent.
WHO said despite these achievements, the latest
picture is grim.
It said TB remains the top infectious killer in 2016
and that it is also the main cause of deaths related to
antimicrobial resistance and the leading killer of
people with HIV. Progress in most countries is
stalling and is not fast enough to reach global targets
or close persistent gaps in TB care and prevention.
Also, according to the National Tuberculosis and
Leprosy Control Programme, over 80 per cent of TB
cases were still undetected.
Tedros Ghebreyesus, Director General of WHO, said
while the world has committed to ending the TB
epidemic by 2030, actions and investments do not
match the political rhetoric.
He said multidrug-resistant TB (MDR-TB) remains a
public health crisis and a health security threat.
WHO estimates that there were 600 000 new cases
with resistance to rifampicin – the most effective first-
line drug, of which 490 000 had MDR-TB. Almost
half of these cases were in India, China and the
Russian Federation.
The report argued for rigorous care and financing in
tackling the epidemic especially in subset of high TB
burden countries; as underreporting and under-
diagnosis of TB cases continue to be a challenge,
especially in countries with large unregulated private
sectors and weak health systems.
Also, according to the report, of the estimated 10.4
million new cases, only 6.3 million were detected and
officially notified in 2016, leaving a gap of 4.1
million. India, Indonesia and Nigeria accounted for
almost half of this global gap.
Mario Raviglione, Director of the WHO Global TB
Programme said ”the sheer numbers of deaths and
suffering speak for themselves and countries are not
accelerating fast enough.”
”Prompt action towards universal health coverage
and social protection, as well as breakthroughs in
research and innovations – will be critical to enable
access to patient-centred care of the highest standards
for all, especially the poorest, most disadvantaged
people everywhere”, he said.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/more-news/247760-despite-global-efforts-tb-mortality-still-high-nigeria-others.html

In the report it clearly shows Nigeria has an inability to detect.

Dubious analysis of the report you just read.

What the report is alluding to or insinuating is towards access to health care which lowers the chances of recording TB cases. How you find the nexus between HIB prevalent rates in Nigeria compared to South Africa, I am still scratching my head on that one.

In absolute numbers, Nigeria will always have a higher HIV rate than South Africa if that is the point you are trying to make but in relative terms the probability of getting infected with HIV is much higher if you sleep with a South African person because its a 1 in chance.

The treatment of HIV or access to health care services is a different animal on its own.

Shikena

LeSudAfricaine:
Don't you guys get tired of talking about South Africa, God Jesus!! it's becoming boring!

Bonjour mon ami, Ca va?

We cannot get tired. The beef goes back years and will continue on because humans are tribal in nature.

MduZA:
95% of so called natural deaths in nigeria are caused by Hiv-aids related illnesses,with only 1 percent of Nigerian population tested,your country is sitting at position 2 world wide with the highest number of people living with hiv..

Good day Mduza, Long time no hear your bull crap.

let me rebut your nonsensical statements

Point 1. Your 95% assumption is pure speculation, you cannot provide a shred of evidence to back that ridiculous statement. If you said 10 to 15% that would have been more plausible so lets throw that out the window.

THe second statistical figure is also nonsensical, even if 1 percent of Nigerians tested for HIV, a statistician could still extrapolate the potential numbers of HIV vicitms over a given period of time which would les to near accurate numbers coming out as the potential HIV infection rate in Nigeria, as they did when the ebola virus hit the country so chuck your point number two out the window


Go back to school instead of hanging out all day at Chis nyama drinking beer and faking your "blesser" status

Obi1kenobi:
Whites own most of the arable land in South Africa, but the Afrikaners, like the displaced white Zimbabwean farmers, claim that they made the land arable and there's plenty of land to go around if the blacks work on the land rather than looking for ready-made arable land that has been tilled for generations.

To be honest, these are dangerous times for South Africa, and while it might feel a "righteous" redress of a historical wrong to go around seizing white people's farms which generations of their families devoted everything to tilling, it is not a prudent course of action and they will come to regret the capital flight, instability, loss of experienced, productive manpower and technical know-how and the racial tensions that will be resurrected after the post-apartheid "reconciliation". International condemnation, international sanctions and international pariah status will follow too. The US and British media have highlighted this threat and are watching very closely.

Move on from the past. Many are finding all sorts of reasons why their case will be different from Zimbabwe, but the cynic in me is 99% certain they'll be far worse off for it.

I do not see the "righteous" argument here. This is more an economic issue than a righteous one. Land ownership is economic power and a powerful means of production, what is wrong in returning the Land and setting up leases with so called expert farmers to come use the land "efficiently' and create a profit sharing scheme.

On the part of your loss of experienced hands and technical know how, why don't these experts device ways of selling their technological know how to the highest bidder, market their knowledge and still control certain aspects of production. They want to own it all.

How can 5 million people in a country of 50 million own 87% of the arable land. Does that make any sense to you?

omololu2020:
can't the government just find another land for the people and let peace reign?

If you look at their history , these arable lands were seized from communities that resided on them, therefore the need to return them back.

They tried the willing buyer, willing seller idea that Zimbabwe had initiated but that is just a delay tactic by the White monopoly power structure.
The Western cape has tried a different strategy of slowly incorporating the workers into land ownership swaps but this again is very slow and does not create the necessary economic effect on the disenfranchised class, so why not try this.

THe white monopoly powers are spinning this as another Zimbabwe but the dynamics are different and This is not necessarily an infringement on property rights but an equalization of past advantages given to people who believed they were divinely endowed with the "skills" to manage land better than the natives.

Horus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEH-BRr97uw

South Africa Just Voted to Seize Land From White Farmers

South Africa‘s parliament has passed a motion to seize land from white farmers without paying them compensation.

Passed by an overwhelming majority of 241 votes to 83 votes against, the proposal to amend Section 25 of the constitution would allow expropriation of land without any financial recompense.

It was put forward by the radical left Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) party, whose leader Julius Malema told the country's parliament: “We must ensure that we restore the dignity of our people without compensating the criminals who stole our land.”

Its about time they did this

Jkay187:
On the Hiv front your people are currently worse of then SA by all indices because we have a far better health system then yours including we test more people and unlike Nigeria we have gotten over the Hiv stigma. How many people are being tested in nigeria on a daily bases.

In Nigeria non of your politicians use your health systems, Buhari is a casing point. How many of your Leaders died in Foreign nations is another good indicator.

Let's stop this bs now.

Again facts without contextualizing.

The indices currently is 1 in 4 people in South Africa are potential HIV carriers, which points to the fact that if you count 4 people you know or they count 4 people they know 1 of them is potentially HIV positive or knows someone who is HIV positive, In my experiences interacting with SA , I find this statistic to be a good estimate. This extrapolation does not necessarily need the reporting of HIV statistics to prove its authencity.

Compare apples with apples and relativity to relativity.

Nigeria has a population of 170 million, in absolute terms its potential to have more HIV cases is larger compared to the population size of South africa, in relative terms it is easier for you to become HIV infected if you sleep with someone from South Africa, good health care or no good health care.

Shikena!

Jkay187:
Now let me tell you a fact about Nigerians in SA. More often then not there are two types of Nigerians who come to SA.
]1 Are those who come here to look for work, study at our world class institutions or start there own businesses and those are in the minority. They come with degrees to SA and more often then not those qualifications are not recordnized by SAQA in SA and they need to be reskilled or write exams in order for them to become medical practitioners or whatever field they practice in. More often then not those with degrees are not qualified and they are the ones who illegal medical practitioners in SA.

There are more than 2 types of Nigerians that come to South Africa but a majority of them can be categorized as Skilled, semi skilled and unskilled migrants.

A class of skilled migrants find the transition seamless , they are highly trained most of the time affluent or retired person who are looking to relocate to a more stable country in terms of lifestyle.

Another class are semi skilled, those who have degrees but require additional training to penetrate the systems impediments created to protect the countries citizens or structures. These have to acquire additional skills to be able to enter the work force. They often do make this change and enter the system as required.

The third class are the ones you see en mass who are underskilled who travel to a country that cannot absorb them and are forced or willing enter into industries that are not very decent.

Jkay187:
2 Are those who come from your Igbo clans and come here more often then not with no formal education. They are the majority who come here with criminal intent and they are the most hated here in SA because of there activities which more often are in drug dealing, fraud or socalled front shops while committing other crimes like prostitution rings and human trafficking. There are more then 600 Nigerians in SA jails for criminal acts.

Now let's look at Hillbrow or Sunnyside where most Nigerians live in SA. Those places are being run down by property hijacking, drugs and prostitution mostly mostly run by Nigerian nationals and that's a fact.

This is fact however there is a statistical reason why it is fact and the perception you are aspousing is quite dubious and I will explain. It is easier for these unskilled migrants to transit to South Africa that it is for them to make their way to other countries with stronger economies that are able to absorb them, thsu the reason for their large numbers in South Africa. Simple stating fact without context is dubious analysis that is often biased.

Jkay187:
Yes not all Nigerians abroad can be categorized as criminals where they migrate to but it is an undeniable fact that most of you will end up doing illegal activity wherever they reside. A simple example would be the way Nigerians are being perceived in countries like India, Singapore, China and Thailand go see how many are on death row in those nations and then compare those stats to the rest of africa.

This is another dubious analysis based on a biased mindset about Nigerians and a more deeper look will reveal the complexities of your simple minded answer

There are approximately 170 million Nigerians

An estimated 10 million reside outside of the country

Of that 10 million extrapolate the numbers is countries like south Africa, probably about 1 million. The rest do make it to more developed countries.

of the the 1 million in south Africa extrapolate the number of unskilled workers, I will be generous and say 80% o the 1 million that leaves 800,000 potential hoodlums and drug dealers,

Extrapolate the demographics, so remove women a 30% rate who are less likely to be drug dealers, children under the age of 18 who are dependents and at a 10% rate, it leaves 60% potential drug dealing class. that is a potential 480,000 drug dealing class of people in South Africa.

Now compare that to the entire population of SA which stands at 50 million and then concentrate those 480,000 in urban areas such as Hilbrow, sunnyside and the rest.

Then compare these numbers to the overall population of Nigeria at 170 million and you will see that your response or perception is downright ludicris.

Facts without context can be misconstrued.

Try to put things in an objective perspective and remove your bias. It will reveal more of the truth to you if you care to really know

HIA, Southy matter no dey end for infidelity issue!

I no blame the Southy girl, her husband probably has like two hidden kids in location

LeSudAfricaine:
there was no need to. Your bile spewing ways are Legendary

bile is nasty but it is necessary

LeSudAfricaine:
Arg coming from you can't say I expect anything better. BTW I'm not your friend

at least you did'nt say I am lieing.

You are not my enemy, therefore you are my friend, Ko!****in deep Fulani accent****

LeSudAfricaine:
I'm south african and that is not true

My friend keep quiet, it is very true. Your girls loose die. Just buy one germison and a couple of savannah dry for them and dem go open leg for you sharp sharp plus dem dey cheat on their boyfriend and husband die.

Veron265:
She's fascinated by the 'gate-man, maid, driver' life....but that too no be new ting for me..... it's common place for the ROA I guess....

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My dear too many unemployed people in the country so abundance of labor. One would prefer doing "gate-man" job where at least he is in the big city, usually has free accommodation and whose sole task is to open and close the gate for oga. It beats languishing away in some village in the hinterlands

Pidgin2:
Does she have any contacts? I know someone that can sublet a comfortable house for three months at Parkview estate, if she's interested, Holla at me.

Parkview!!

Pidgin make you pity the girl o, no be small money that one go be o.

Veron265:
Update

It turns out my southy friend has departed last night's flight.
I'm curious and excited to hear how it will go, how she'll like it etc.

True to what you folks said, the SA-9ja based companies are willing to lend and ear.
LinkedIn has done wonders, plus her known contacts etc.

As for me....I await a few pieces to come together

Good for her. tell her to send you video and pic updates if she can so you can see for yourself.

Good luck

Veron265:
My bros....you're such an idiot lol haha
Abeg 'Malawi' is never 'broken' regardless of one's L and R syndrome status.
I'll have you know.....even the Chinese and Thai folk suffer from it......and our cousins in Zambia, our vernacular uses the L and R interchangeably at times.

That said, will try to contact them for the logistics.
Thing is, I've filled in the questionaire and followed up with the fone call.
I didn't like that I was told there's a long list and I should consult an 'agent'.

I'll makw my way up and see how it works out....I'm dedicating 14 days to it.

Gaviscon will be packed....that's a familiar brand.

You seem very conversant with Sadc and it's ways....noice

worked in southern Africa as an attache for a non profit

Lionessza:
Lol, retard you thought the statement would hurt us it didn't....so move the fak over .

You are really R.e.t.arded. Did you read my response correctly or is your brain that slow for real. How can a judgment on a statement made by Helen Zille and articulated in my response as insensitive move to hurt you.

Veron265:
I had to Google what 'pepto bismal' is.....will come prepped, thanks for the heads up. I like to believe my stomach is made of steel....although the pepe dey too much at times...
I honestly haven't looked into the logistics of getting to Scoan...will have to venture in independently of them, been told there's a long list etc.
2 weeks leaves ample time to get what I need.
Will check my Google maps and see the specifics etc....

P.s. I merely reside in SA, I am Malawian. My friend is thus the southy not me.

Ahh My*** marrawian***. forgive the jokes. I know a lot of Malawians find it hard to pronounce their L's and R's.

Once you get to Naija or before, you can contact the church they will give you logistics on how to get there.

If you are going to be trying out a lot of dishes, you will need that Peptobismal or gaviscon, trust me

DictatorZAR1:
So recession is hitting the residential market.
Here's some good financial advise,
why don't you just upgrade your current Makoko Estate because Eco atlantic city is still a pipe dream.

Ps. I already have a property in Magodo don't know about his Makoko estate you are talking about, maybe you are confused.

Don't blame you though, I doubt many of ya'll can even point to lagos on an empty African map

DictatorZAR1:
So recession is hitting the residential market.
Here's some good financial advise,
why don't you just upgrade your current Makoko Estate because Eco atlantic city is still a pipe dream.

??, how is Recession hitting the property market if their values are going up. I am waiting for the dollar to have more value against the naira so I can buy expensive real estate

Please pause, take a deep breath and think before you type.

Could this be the reason you were band the last time

DictatorZAR1:
Slave trade is in full motion as we speak.
http://m.news24.com/news24/Africa/News/calabar-slave-trade-to-people-trafficking-in-se-nigeria-20170531

I score goal, you move the post.

***VERY OBVIOUS**** in Julius malema voice

Jayceon:
I have no interest in learning it whatsoever,I use it out of pure mockery

Please stop then. You are only mocking yourself

Pidgin is a very popular lingua franca spoken in many West African countries much like swahili

Jayceon:
the number of nigerian prisoners in SA is actually about 5000

Which means if we compare that to the supposed total number of Nigerians in SA which I will inflate to 1 million. 0.5 % are in prisons.

This means two things.

1. The porportion of crime to the total number of the Nigerian population is less than 1%

2. The SA government is doing a terrible job prosecuting these miscreants.

Pic your poison!

Jayceon:
de ting don taya me oo,dem dey got all that oil but non is to be found in filling stations.

Kids be selling oil illegally by dusty roadsides abi,nawa oh

Please quit the Pidgin english attempt. My eyes are hurting just reading it.

kai!

DictatorZAR1:
No dey tire for uno petrol shortages in Africa's largest crude exporter.

No dey tire lack for dollars uno on dey black market currency trade can no pay for dey pepper soup with useless Naira

Bros as if you know, naira is becoming stronger by the day. My stash of dollars is stayingi n my foreign bank account for now until naira go down so I can buy new flat and start making money again

DictatorZAR1:
This is the reason why your forefathers traded there siblings to European Atlantic slave traders for in exchange for mirrors.

Correct your history, No ones fore fathers traded their "SIBLINGS" to slave traders,

Slave raiders and corrupt kings did so. MAJOR MAJOR difference!

DictatorZAR1:
Tell me how does this question correlate to the header of this thread.

Recession....fiscal policy....fiscal...discipline......fiscal spending.......social grants......RDP housing......Gugu grants.....grants go to spending on too many children in gugu's house.

DictatorZAR1:
I can also respond by asking why is there currently a crisis of child slave rings in Nigeria. How can a nation that claim to be a beacon of Human Rights still allow slavery within its borders, underage marriages, baby factories and illegal organ harvesting.

Off topic!

DictatorZAR1:
The issue of SA's recession is a question of lack of trust between government and business. Its got more to do with political indecisiveness, mistrust by business and miss management of state enterprises.

Now how does SA's economic situation lead to nation bashing by your compatriots save Nigeria from a even worse economic downturn.

You need to pose that question to the people who are bashing, i am simply asking pertinent questions

All49ja:
Leave them, we gonna put their a$$ on hot zone now. It looks like they've been going unchallenged for a while now. Lazy goats.

BTW, how have you been?

HAHAHAHAHAHA!, I trust you, you no dey tire.

I have been well, money no dey come as before so i no dey travel as I use to. Recession no good o!

DictatorZAR1:
Any report on your president AKA Dictator Buhari's holiday in the UK.

You forget your history is a tell tale of decades of horrendous mismanagement of a country by its black leaders.

I'm using it as a case study for students on how leaders of africa fucccckup their country which eventually leads to rebellions and terror.

I am a southern African foreign affairs expert. If you need a response on that go to the political section, there are many that will give you a fully informed answer

As far as using case studies from West African Miliatary regimes and their subsequent results, you would do your students a better service to move to places like Liberia and Sierra leone. They are far worse basket cases in those terms and far more interesting . My humble suggestion.

Jayceon:
tbh I don't think that clown is a worthy opponent,he doesn't even understand basic grammar

He sure does get under your skins and has been for years.

Lionessza:
Hahahaha @ colonized minds. Colonized minds are those who will bleach their skins at an alarming rate ( because ..well, white skin is better than a black one right?). Colonized minds are those who would risk their young lives to go through lybia(where they are frequently put straight to slavery) to reach the whiteman's land ( promised land fools). Colonized minds are those who jubilate at small compliments onyibo throws at their country so he can come exploit some more. Colonized minds ? Lol. Well those who think progress made by other Africans is because their neighbors are onyibos. Colonized minds would sell their property and give up their jobs to go and be prostitutes and pimps in the streets of onyibo land (now that's what is called adventure and and being industrious in a proud " most populated black country". Lol. Smh.

Complete Gibberish again and no correlation to my initial question. don't strawman the arguement. If you want to discuss the reason whey there is a bleaching culture in Nigeria we can go there or simply search Nairaland and you will get your answers or if you wish to disucss the reasons for the sahara route journeys taken by Africans of multiple nationalities we can go there. Open the thread and invite me but don't digress.

The accusation made pertains to the way you refer to other Africans as "Uitlanders" as a consequence of your colonial history. Refute that please, don't jump around subject matters.

Lionessza:
Actually those "makeshift " RDP homes are way better than living in Makoko generation after generation. Don't be concerned for those kids and gogos they are taken of by SANS, you should be concerned about the rate at which Nigerian kids are drowning daily at the Mediterranean Sea to be refugees in Europe. You should be concerned about black on black slavery taking place in Nigeria. Do you ever concern yourself about Nigerian teenagers as young as 12 being trafficked daily to Italy to be sex slaves. I think these Nigerian problems should concern you more than healthy kids who have 3 square meals a day, access to free Healthcare, free education, 24hr electricity supply, tap water etc .

There are numerous Nigerians on this forum concerned about the above issues you are raising, Why do a lot of African take the mediternean route to europe, I could chuck that up to proximity and access to those routes as compared to southern africans like mozambicans, malawians and the likes who would choose a simpler southern route to SA in seeking better economic situations, but then again, that is not my forte and I am not here for that.


Now respond appropriately to the accusations i have put forward and stop digressing, is it true the gugus are being dumped with fatherless babies and how can they cope even with grants from the government. This topic is about SA slipping into recession and everything else related to that.

I am not Al4naija, even though I like him

Lionessza:
Lol, it sounds like Hellen Zille hurt you a lot with that statement than she did SAns, I hope you get over it someday.

Why would it hurt me you r.et.a.rd. it concerns your history. I am simply giving my opinion/judgment on the issue.

You are so 5 years old with these counter responses. You must do better wena!