₦airaland Forum

jln115:
According to your second sentence would you agree then that Whites were the first to discover certain parts of South Africa
and Bantu people were the first to discovered other parts?

How do White people "discover" an area where people already occupy?.....let me guess tis the old "Christopher Columbus discovered America hogwash"

Again Zulu expansions into What you term as SOUTH AFRICA do not negate the fact that there were people already resident in the areas around the entirety of Southern Africa, therefore Settlers discovered nothing, they merely settled in small spaces around where other people already lived.

jln115:
What YEAR mate!! it took years to migrate down South, Give me the year that they arrived in SA not "500 BC–0 Congo nucleus 10 = AD 0–1000 last phase"

What is your definition of SA in this context, the cape colony or the entirety of what is known as South Africa today?

Apparently you want us to believe the whole geography of what is known as South Africa was wide open country during the "settler" expansions years. No human in site from Cape town all the way to Mpumalanga!

Stop playing around and retract that statement you made. You see the numbers staring you in the face!

Bantu southern expansion .....[i]500 BC–0 Congo nucleus 10 = AD 0–1000 last phase"[i]

DictatorZAR:
Oh Hail....OH Hail....!!!!
Moffie Morph The Great Nairaland B@utt Slayer.
I can't help it if I have better genes then you OH Great B@UTT SLAYER.
Now VOETSEK MOFFIE of you go

OOOOH I am shaking in my boots....!

Anyone in the mood for some bobotie?

jln115:
So they reach SA when? Anyway interesting fact that you might have not known, the Zulu kingdom was founded/established AFTER the Cape Colony!

First explorers to cape Portugese 1497

Dutch cape colony founded 1652

Bantu expansion into Southern Africa = [i]500 BC–0 Congo nucleus 10 = AD 0–1000 last phase[i]


The establishment of the Zulu Kingdom does not negate the fact that there were numerous other tribes and peoples scattered across the geography of what is considered South Africa today.

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jln115:
Why would i retract my comment when its entirely true?

Read the dates below and juxtapose to the dates for the settlement of the Dutch east Indian company and the famous Jan van riebeeck

1 = 2000–1500 BC origin 2 = ca.1500 BC first migrations 2.a = Eastern Bantu, 2.b = Western Bantu 3 = 1000–500 BC Urewe nucleus of Eastern Bantu 4–7 = southward advance 9 = 500 BC–0 Congo nucleus 10 = AD 0–1000 last phase

DictatorZAR:
Oh the f@ucktard has landed. What the f@ck are you doing here weren't you suppose to lead your biafra lagoon pink boys brigade or giving advice to your romance thread lady-beasts on the best methods to improve cassava love remedies.
About the money go ask the Abacha ghost and all your former dictators[b](love this name)[/b] to return there approximately $100bn in stolen oil money to do the same, and while you at it tell that former mate of mine aka Buhari I say good luck with the Austerity measures.

Cape Malay madness on display.

The descendant of a slave Indonesian mixed with part neandarthal, part Afrikaaner and part Hottentot has the effrontery to question what the great Morpheus is doin on a Nairaland thread.

Too much DAGGA, I tell you.

jln115:
You mean 300 years of South African rule!! Whites arrived in South Africa not long after the first Bantu people arrived from West/Central Africa.

Retract that silly statement used by Afrikaans settler apologists. The Bantu that arrived South Africa were tribes moving from East Africa.

The Bantu expansion that began in West Central Africa had already occupied most of Central- eastern- many parts of South Africa!

MduZA:
unjani bhuti wami?

Dumela "Mma"!

MduZA:
do you understand what an informal settlement is ? The term slums is not popular here

I see all the usual suspects are bored and have gravitated to this thread, last beacon of hope to preoccupy their minds rather than setting up a thread somewhere else to make sure ZUMA returns that NKANDLA MONEY!

I see you DictatorZA, RUDZA, MduZA!

A HOllA!

RudzSA:
for once u mak a valid point ,an obvious point ,but valid...thers progress. Dnt no wat or who shikena is thou

***********Thank you "MASTER" for acknowledging my brilliance********** in sarcastic DARTH VADER voice

RudzSA:
another u.s.a reference ...it's like u can't control it .

If you had any common sense you would understand that the two countries are quite similar in terms of the effects of a so called master race subjugating the so called inferior race and the psychological effects that follow. Therefore in the contect of the argument btw RUdZA and Morpheus about ZUMA and the subject matter being discussed here, quite relevant and definitely not out of context


Shikena!

DictatorZAR:
Exactly you just fell for another one my Lady Boy.
I see you finally went to rehab for your Palm Wine and Ewi addiction.

You sound like the wimpy Oscar Pistorius everytime he was sniveling as he addressed the judge.

DictatorZAR:
My Boy I'm just calling you a LITTLE BOY
Go speak your queens language to your Lebanese masters MY BOYTJIE

Its Queens "English", my high yellow confused Cape Malayan

NthabeM:
It has been a dream of mine to travel to Nigeria for a long time now and hopefully if everything goes according to plan, that dream will materialise by September.
In my excitement about the pending trip, I am constantly researching the best tourist places and activities, cultural or otherwise, that one can partake in once there (am already addicted to Naija food ).
Along with the interesting and lovely activities provided, there have also been some reviews by other tourists that centre around four main areas:
1) Be careful and have your wits about you upon your arrival at the airport.
2) Be careful in Lagos around December. If possible, stay in Lagos only for a short while and rather lodge in a different area. Or if you must stay in Lagos, do not go out at night (which would be a shame as I want to experience the Lagos night life!!).
3) The traffic in Lagos can be a challenge.
4) Be polite always to anyone in uniform and be prepared for lots of road blocks and what happens during the roadblocks.
The reasons given for these warnings are very vague and I therefore wanted to understand fully what the danger areas are and what I can expect specifically in terms of the four points above.

Let me break your journey down piece by piece for you.

1.If you are traveling to lagos for the first time, you will need a guide or someone that knows the city well, this is paramount to you enjoying the city.

2. When you land you get off at immigration and the line for foreign passports is different from the one for Nigerians, make sure you are in the correct line. You shouldn't have too much hassle getting through immigration once your paper work is okay.

3. Once you are out of immigration, head to collect your luggage, this experience by be a little jarring and confusing but your bags will eventually come out and you can either rent a trolley or if not too heave roll them along. You will then pass customs who might stop you to ask to search your bags, its a hit or miss on this one, just stay assertive and you will have not issues.

4. When you are out of customs, you will need transportation. If you don't have someone picking you up then that's not good(this is why a guide is needed if this is your first time). There reputable transportation services in the airport, ask and they will direct you to them . Do not take a cab or respond to anyone soliciting you for their service.

5. You will pay for the cab service at the airport and tell them your destination. You want to stay in Victoria Island/Lekki on your first visit to Lagos, no exceptions. Hotel bon voyage n Victoria Island is good and I highly recommend it, There are also some good hotels within Lekki phase 1 as well, Do not opt for cheaper hotels though. If you have the money to spend, Four points for the first few nights is not bad then you can switch later on to a cheaper hotel.

6. All the nice spots are on the island, night life is abundant so pic your poison.

7.You will need transportation to get around, this is why a guide is very important on your trip, local transport for a first timer is a no no!

8. Enjoy your stay, Nigerians are very friendly people.

DictatorZAR:
Two words
MY BOYTJIE

SPeaker tha English!

RudzSA:
Give that man a bells ..lol . Cudnt hav said it beta myself . The sound of generators must be annoying them or myb it's their bleached women chasing them away ..I'll quote our President ..."We can’t think like Africans, in Africa,
generally. We are in Johannesburg, this is
Johannesburg. It's not some national road in
Malawi," Zuma said during the ruling ANC
party public forum

Point 1.. Be more original the bleached skin thing and sounds of generator has been hijacked from the Ghana/Naija e feud. Be more Original please

Point 2. Using ZUma's statements simply proves the innate Daftness of the President and the self hate imposed by Apatheid. His statements are tantamount to an African American woman claiming she wants to have kids with a White man because it is difficult to comb BLack girls hair cause its kinky.

I leave you with a more better quote....

"ST.UP.ID IS AS ST.UP.ID DOES!".....Forest Gump

14:
"Generators are here to stay" kikikikikikiikikikikii
Thats what all4kak ran away from, dirty pollution from those generators.
The question i have is, how often do you see South african artists going to Nigeria to have fun? But in SA, we always have Nigerian artists almost every week, if its not dbanj with his SA chic in SA, or Davido, or wizkid and some artists i dont know. And what suprises me, they dont come to South Africa for a concert or to perform. They just come to enjoy the country, because SA is different, it always calls you to go back, because it leaves all good memories with you.

The following artists you mention also travel to the UK, THE US, Morrocco, Australia, Malaysia, Canada, Brazil etc

Zero arguement

14:
when you are away, you always think of those good times when you were in SA. Then you go back, and back again and again. You will never get enough of it. Thats the reason why South africans dont travel, because they have got it all in their door steps.

THe response to this one is not hard at all.

The reason "BLACK" South Africans with a strong emphasis on the word "BLACK" here, don't travel because

1. Your townships have been your safe haven since Apatheid and you seldom want to leave cause the new world is a little scary for you to deal with.

2. You just got the country back barely 20 years ago so why would you want to leave so quickly, most of you haven't been out of your provinces your whole lives. There is lots to see in other provinces. Besides that you are terribly frightened that if you do leave the "FORIEGNERS" will take over and you will be left stateless.

3. Economically speaking an average township Zulu man would prefer to spend his hard earned RAND drinking at the shebeen and at a CHi sa Nyama than save up money to travel to say Australia or the UK on holiday.

4. When you have kept animals in cages for a long period of time, psychologically speaking they can't cope quite well in "foreign" environments.

5. Your English is terrible and most of you speak your native tongues, how will you communicate with people if you travel out


Shikena!

14:
YOU DESCRIBE HER AS SOUTH AFRICAN. why nigerians take this tribal issue very seriouly, every thing has to be tribalised, come-on, can you give it a break for a minute? Haven't you realised its the only thing pulling you backwards.
SA could be the country with lots of intermarriage in the world. So SA woll never be similar to what Nigeria is, besides, we are too far away from each other in such a way we can have similarities in all aspects. We relate well with our neighbouring countries because we share history and cultures. So ask yourself what you would call a nigerien or togolese lady id you get married to one.

****YAWN****

The points made in the previous post simply skipped over your head, all you did was digress, change the subject matter to Nigerian tribalism, pull a straw man argument to confuse the weak minded into believing you actually answered when in fact you pretty much didn't.

Save your weak responses for people on your intellectual level.

DictatorZAR:
Wow the f@ucktard on he's hilarious emotional rants again.
BOY ARE YOUR B@UTT HURTING AGAIN MOFFIE. MY BOY I WILL CALL WHATEVER I LIKE
It seems cassava and bush meat pepper soup has clouded your Igbo flat head.
You were the one posting sh@iit about your diaspora and futile achievements now you wanna cry.
Shut da f@uck and stop trying to portray yourself as nairalands official historian MY BOY because to me you just another egotistical f@ucktard
MY BOY The GREAT MOFFIE MORPH YES YOU'LL GET OVER YOUR B@UTT HURT. I UNDER YOUR PAIN
SHAME MY POOR BOY

*******YAWN*******


One word... WEAK!

14:
Say that to morpheus, AKA Sepuku or Mr south africa. He says all light skin south africans are mixed, crazy indeed. That boy should be smoking some dried dog poo

Again Dummy! Just because I am in a good mood I will repeat it one more time

Dummy!

Point 1, Not every light skinned black person is mixed. The reference about Nigerian light skinned Igbo should clue anyone in to that fact!

Point 2, Not every coloured person is light skinned, that is obvious since a coloured is nothing more than someone with mixed ancestry who usually speaks Afrikaans. Therefore two dark skinned coloureds can produce a variety of shades of human beings.

Point 3, if one takes into account the history of South Africa and the fact that numerous racial groups intermingled for a good amount of time, it would be simple deductive reasoning that would leave one to be suspect when determining if anyone who is light skinned in south Africa has some small amount of mixed ancestry including Khoi, San, Malay, Indian and European

If I were dating the below Zulu speaking lady what would I describe her as

jamaicanoshu:
Garvey 1 thank you for this thread ! We need a thread like this at least once a week . So that our people can self reflect on ourselves. This is very necessary for us to reclaim our minds from the white man. One day we will change our Bible's and Quran's . We will Africanize those books. We will take out sissy white Jesus and put in BLACK WAR GOD ANSAR!

How does Africanizing either of those books do anything to change your mindset. Their practice and language are heavily influenced from the cultures they were derived from.

You might as well revert back to Ogun and IFA spirituality.

duh!

RudzSA:
typical Nigerian mentality ,I was waiting for u to mak a reference to yo other obsession ...the U.S.A . Or maybe countries ending with S.A are the only ones that matter to u .There is no smart answer to a foolish question ,try yo intellect on that one . As for Zuma ,leading Africa's only example of a success story takes some doin hey ..I'd tak that over being a 10 phds /degrees Pres of trillion dollar notes or mr buhari a.k.a mr we outta petrol,generators are here to stay .

Typical South African effrontery, My obsessions are my own business, who are you to tell me what it should or shouldn't be.

Take your sensitive Nyaope smoking SAffer azz to the nearest Shebeen and drown yourself in Ogogoro, trying to rigamarole around and pass your strawman argument responses as intellectual brilliance over the GREAT MORPHEUS!


The audacity I tell you!

MduZA:
laughable

Your responses have been few and far between nowadays. Did your government checks stop coming in or maybe you have been busy fixing the roof in one of those RDP houses you rent out to Zimbabweans for cash.


***Shaking my head****

niceguy7:
Guy abeg park well....no involve oo.

Na you get website?

COmot there!

niceguy7:
In a Christian view.....wearing pants in public...is it a good thing?

make una carry una over zealous religious-ness comot for hear.

Wetin consine you with person wey wear swim suit for another country.

DictatorZAR:
Listen here you Igbo b@boon your kind should be last to talk about going back to wherever.
To much cannibalism has affected your brain you racist b@astard. Your mother should have killed you at birth or sold you into slavery like the rest of you b@astards.
Now go feed on roasted cockroaches you Ewi rat.

Ahhhhhh that's more like it, spoken like a true ignorant Cape Coloured.

If I am not mistaken a lot of ya'll were typically referred to as BASTERS once upon a time! and weren't Malay people also brought into SA as indentured/Slaves. Hmmmmm

You are only projecting!

I understand though.

RudzSA:
For all the dummies in the world , u at the top of yo game morphy24 . Go back to the original statement nd review yo answer to it . That's wer the word 1diot wud cum into play .unles yo definition of 1diot is as misguided as yo foolish question . To go further with u wud degrade me ...go in peace . Il leave u wit a quote from Pres JG Zuma ..."We can’t think like Africans, in Africa,
generally" Zuma said during the ruling ANC
party public forum

Dancing around words without saying anything meaningful or responding to the question has been deemed as intellectual superiority. Who do you think you are playing with

As for Zuma's statement. Of course an Ignoramous illiterate President who always feels intimidated and inferior to "whites" would make such a self defeating statement. Psychological damage from the APatheid era. I feel sorry for the Old Chap!

Go in peace Pale faced cave mutant. Like the victims of the shooting incident in Charleston, South Carolina. I FORGIVE YOU!

RudzSA:
dnt u get tired of pulling angry faces ? U nd yo other alias all4naija r the worst things to come out of Nigeria ...nd it's Bcoz of 1diots lyk u that Nigeria wil remain in crisis until Jesus comes back.

A very IDIO.TIC response to the question I asked.

What is so spectacular about Miscegany?

RudzSA:
nw that's a clear description of S.A ..these naijas dnt seem to no anything about us ,even those who live here can't figure us out .we r just too different to be honest .

What is spectacular about miscegany or a group of late Bantu speakers arriving in the Southern part of Africa couple of thousands of years ago

14:
too much noise from morphy, the few nigerians who were chased out of a dusty town in the border of namibia, were dealing with drugs, so we hear. The community was fed up since police could not take action. i asked what are nigerian doing in that dusty small town, back in my mind i knew, they could have discovered a market in that coloured town. but the community turned against them. They just chased them away out of town, no one was injured.
NIGERIAN embasy and this crazy organisation must stop covering drug dealers who are nigerians, otherwise their creatibility will be turnished due to this. you dont support a criminal just because he is yo country man. They must distance themselves from nigerian thugs in SA

First the story was unfounded and not true.... THe embassy was making it up

Then it was discovered the story was true but was not reported by SABC, when a claim was made that SABC would not miss a sensational story like this.

Now the Story has turned into The Nigerians that were chased out were DRUG DEALERS!. Why would the organization support drug dealers in the first place, that would just be detrimental to their organizations ethos. Smells of conspiracy

Where is the evidence? When you produce it then I will support the actions of the community in ridding themselves of scum, until then it is PROPAGANDA AND XENOPHOBIA AT ITS BEST!