₦airaland Forum

OohLalah:
An average high school Nigeria girl has had -+7abortions.

FACT CHECK?

OohLalah:
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Its not only Zimbabweans Nigeria Ibos told Zuma they are hated and killed in Nigeria and would rather die in SA than go back.

SO they straight went up to Zuma and told him this right smack in his face. Some brave Igbos out there.

I am guessing his government is so stupid that their diplomats in SA cannot confirm outright if this is indeed a verifiable issue.


***SHAKING MY HEAD*****

Miaraka:
Hi, Morpheus 24! I've decided to come to Nigeria for a face to face exchange of views. I'm in Lagos since last night. I'll soon be on my way attend a funeral at one of the villages.
Regarding, your "perception is not always reality", I concur with you. That notwithstanding, I'd like to remind you that One Man's Reality is Another Man's Perception. The reality I see in Sandton, Johannesburg or that you see in Lagos, may not necessarily be identical to the reality that squatter camp dwellers see and experience. While the majority of Nigerians are definitely the best people in the world, that doesn't necessarily mean that South Africa has also been blessed with a majority of the Nigerian angels I've met lived, studied and worked with since 1977.
Be that as it may, in South Africa, the Governent and the majority of South Africans are united in saying that Nothing Can Justify the maiming and killing of fellow humans, wherever they may have come from. As I've already said in a number of posts, we've already graduated from the level of expressing our shock, anger and disgust with regard to attacks on immigrants. We are now busy working hard and putting measures in place to obviate, once and for all, the underlying causes of attacks on immigrants as well as the violent nature of our society which we inherited from our apartheid past.
If you find sweet solace and cosy comfort in a perpetual embrace with the demon of anger, please keep it up and we'll pray that you survive the concomitant devastating effects.

Good for you. You are welcome in Nigeria. As you know you will find Nigerians eager to exchange views with you despite the recent events in your country. You willalso find them trying to understand a country they have very little knowledge of and no educated elite, working class individual or simple minded peasant shall relegate or shun you to the status of a "makwerekwere". Long live PAN-AFRICANISM


As far as the comment on "perpetual embrace with the demon of anger", I can only respond with a Nigerian saying that goes something like this...." As long as dem born MUGU everyday, 419 no dey finish".

In other words as long as stu.p.idity and ignorance exists amongst your people, Morpheus24's anger will be there to counter it.

14:
Will they ever consider that? i doubt. Kenya has its refugee camps for Somali citizens. Do you think people are in SA running away from wars, noo man. 99% of all foreigners are economic migrant. They are here for better life. They come from countries where poverty is a daily thing. Future looks blink, then their only hope is to make it in SA alive. You heard many Zimbabweans saying they would rather die in SA than die of hunger in Zimbabwel

At least you have common sense to recognize and economic migrant disguised as a "refugee".

OohLalah:
You must be a really sad person. Have you ever cared to find out what the www stands for? Its a World Wide Web, you can't claim territory on the net mumu, I'm in my country using my phone, my data and my time there is no way in hell that I might be infringing in your space.
For the rest of the your copy & paste garbage you spewed up there, please save it for yourself. Its our business not yours until we start trooping into your country in thousands.
Again, at last our government will work hard to ensure that we bring order in our country. Now you can cry me a river buddy!
#SayNoToXenophobia

The truth hurts which is why a small feeble mind like yours would translate this to "garbage".

Again the self absorbed, self centered broken mind of the post Apatheid black South African is not difficult to comprehend. They use words like... "it is our business not yours"...."cry me a river"...."You must go" to mask their insecurities and the inability to take responsibility of their own short comings, solve their internal issues outside of picking on the "other". The more you do this the more you expose yourselfs to the world.


This sickness is an aftermath and residual effect of isolationist measures instituted by the Apatheid govt and which continue today in the minds of Black South Africans.

THey chant "VIva Africa"".. use phrases like "nkosi sike leli Africa" and even dare to affix the Suffix "Africa" in their national identity yet everyone outside their borders in the rest of the continent are strangers and an enemy to the state, legal and illegal I might add.

When all the immigrants are gone. YOur problem will not be solved. I can bet $1 million dollars on that. Why? because you are too S> TUP>Id to identify the root causes and prefer to hide your dirty laundry in house.

PS.. I can't cry me a river on the internet..... am simply using my data any computer and my fingers to type


Long live the true Africans,


XENOPHOBIA IS JUST A PRECURSOR TO GENOCIDE!!

OohLalah:
Am very certain that you not responding to my post, coz i see no correlation to what you've just said.
Let me entertain ya thou! Why is what's next your
business? You seem to be cryin' more than the berieved

Pleas see below for your response

PRE APATHEID... We are suffering because of Apatheid.... .Apatheid MUST GO!

POST 1994.... We are suffering because of White priviledge.....WHITES must redistribute wealth or they MUST GO

2008...We are suffering because of tenderpreneurs and ZUma and his Corrupt cronies... ZUMA MUST GO


Post 2008... We are suffering because BLACK AFRICAN FOREIGNERS are coming into our country and stealing our jobs... FOREIGNERS MUST GO!


Post 2014... We are suffering because of colonial statues... THE colonial statutues MUST GO!

Psot 2015.... We are suffering because.....****FILL IN THE BLANk***


If you cannot see a pattern of s.Tu.pi.dity here then you either didn't go to school.

PS why are you on Nairaland posting on subjects about immigrants??

OohLalah:
I just love it! Its going to get our government working at last. Creation of refugee camps is another big plus.
#No to Xenophobia!

When the foreigners leave, next it is service delivery riots,


I am guessing who will be next after taht?


A bunch of violent minded people always thirsty for blood.

Sile12:
Uwc & thanks for the comment bro. Just a bit to remind them how they lived decades ago, how some African countries stood up for them, how some people help them and came to their rescue. They are now seeing these people as enemies, as threats in their homeland. It shouldn't be, we are humans not animal. We should value lives, properties, starting with us, we can make this world a better place for us all. No to Destruction/Killing, No to Racism, No to Xenophobia.

During my time in the US, African foreigners faced this same antagonism from both Whites and the African American populations. AA had a terribly negative perception of Africans because of what they had been taught about the continent and it really was a translation of self hate. Over time the prejudices dwindled as more AA intermingled with second generation Africans who exposed them to their native cultures, tied to the realities of the continent they were exposed to via unconventional media sources.

The US is an immigrant based country which makes it quite unique from other countries with African migrant populations so maybe you can't really compare the two.

@ OP

I thank you for this flash backs on the day to day life during the Apatheid era.

It truly sheds light on the mindset of many South Africans which many Africans can't quite grasp yet. It further sheds light on the xenophobia and psychology of the country for both White, black, colored and indian peoples.

The gross similarities between the jim crow era in the United States is remarkable thus they peoples would share similar psychologies but probably in different stages as America has transcended many of its racial hurdles compared to South Africa

Miaraka:
Morpheus 24, you don't seem to get tired of trying to show that all South African are "xenophobic". Now you're even suggesting that the so-called xenophobia is embedded in our psyche. When you do that, you sound like the worst version of a xenophobe that has walked on the surface of Mother Earth. I'd like to believe that you didn't have time to think about the real meaning of your insult. You said it in anger. As the the intellectual that I sincerely believe you are, you may wish to peruse my two posts (see above) based on my lifetime experience here on the African continent, Europe and the US. Check them out and respond. I'd also propose that you begin to calm down, look at the bigger picture and propose the way forward for Nigeria-South Africa relations and the whole African continent.

Been on this forum much much longer than you my young friend and have pretty much exchanged words and ideas with many or your comrades.

I have also been on many a South African sites where Nigerians are mentioned in despicable manners even to the extent of using words like "necklace" and the likes. The problem I have is with the continued generalization of a country with 160 million people 95% of which are harshing out a daily living and go about their daily lives trying to survive. I see this folk everyday I walk out my door and it is an INSULT to them and by extension to me. They don't have a voice to speak out against people who do this. This is not to say I do not recognize my country has a negative image problem but perception is not necessarily reality. It is what you want to see.

It is unfortunate that the lesser exemplary Nigerians make their way to your country and commit crimes and I have never nor will I ever make excuses for their actions on this forum. It is a simple process to deal with these miscreants. Send them back home. Ban them from coming to your country. No one will fault you for this.

My problem is a South African's inability to look beyond his borders and understand the broader issues of the continent you live in. The continued excuses made for your country men's violent tendencies and the inability to face the psychological effects of APartheid which translate to Xenophobia, criminality and self hate thus continuing to shape your perception and vision of the continent you live in. When it is brought up ya'll become sensitive and a false sense of Patriotism is used to mask those insecurities.

When you start owning up to your issues then I will calm down.

When you stop calling Nigerians drug dealers, I will stop calling your people Xenophobes

Ya ll are not ready to sit down and have a meaningful discussion yet, You are still dealing with too many INTERNAL issues.

Until then I remain the ever relentless, in your face Morpheus24


****PERCEPTION IS NOT ALWAYS REALITY........FREE YOUR MIND****

14:
His killers were arrested, and they will be sentenced not less than 25yrs in prison, what more do you want?

SAYNOTOXENOPHOBIA!

LeSudAfricaine:
Zzzzzz...Snoozefest....

HEY!!, Wake up sleepy head

THERE GOES A XENOPHOBE!

LeSudAfricaine:
Yawn....that shht has lost it's shine dude, try something else

After you have finishing YAWNING and your mouth goes shut note this;

It hasn't. its still brewing in the psyche of Many South Africans. The government just managed to brush the incident under the carpet so they can continue with business as usual.

The underlining symptoms are there and will resurface in another form. Its only a matter of time.

Ticking time bomb!

ONe solution: Go back to school and change out that curriculum you have from kindergarten to matric!

PunkyOh:
Kikikiki. Now I'm dancing. Mzansi talent.

Unfortunately this generation of Sarafina are old now and the new ones growing up in Kwazulu natal are lost.


SAYNOTOXENOPHOBIA!!!

PunkyOh:
*yawns like a hippo*

After Yawing still #SAYNOTOXENOPHOBIA! so your tormented souls can be finally FREE!

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PunkyOh:
What does what I said have to do with tribal e-wars, wena? Btw, there are threads here that say otherwise, that you people do actually kill each other offline based on tribal differences.

SAYNOTOXENOPHOBIA!!

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PunkyOh:
Duh! If it was possible you would. Do you know just how many thunders had been fired at our yanshes on these boards? Overkill As I type, I'm in ashes.

Tribal E-Wars are simply that, no Yoruba killing Igbo and vice versa but we know when you guys say you are going to "necklace" a foreigner on line or when you toyi toyi, you really mean it.

LeSudAfricaine:
what an irony! Lol,

The real irony here is we do not "KILL" our foreign nationals here on Nairaland.

14:
His real name is Emmanuel Josias, not Sithole

How strange, His whole family must be using fake names then including his sister "THANDO"

South Africans always shifting blame!, When will you just face facts that you are XEnophobic


http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Emmanuel-Sithole-was-his-real-name-sister-20150504

Johannesburg - Mozambican national Emmanuel Sithole, who was murdered in Alexandra, was not using a fake name, his family said on Monday.

His name was Emmanuel Josias Sithole his sister Thando told News24 outside the Alexandra Magistrate's Court, where four men appeared for her brother's murder.


Speaking at a Freedom Day celebration last week, President Jacob Zuma said Sithole had used an alias while he lived in South Africa.

Thando Sithole said: "The thing is my brother was killed. Jacob Zuma was supposed to focus on those people to get into jail. Surnames and what, he was supposed to ask the family before telling the public."




She said she did not know if her brother was in South Africa legally, but his passport was used to obtain his death certificate.

kgr28:
Morphine dont, you are not important as you want to potray yourself.

Sisi. I am as important as you are which is why I refuse to take peoples lives in the name of Xenophobia!

OohLalah:
Who cares really? The world countries are tired of picking
up your bill, while your leaders loot the aid given to your
country. They just want you out, hear? Now take all the loot that educated you and get back home to build your country. No one want you in their countries! **loudspeaker**

The millions who voted and changed government are building their country

The millions outside of the country are repatriating hard foreign currency equivalents back home.

You however just got your country back 20 years ago. You can't go nowhere cause if you did, like animals caged for centuries you would not cope.

Jan van reibeeck left his country and sailed to South Africa look what his people got 100 of years later.

your Afrikaaner population move their skills across borders, look what they have to show for it.

When will you block heads learn

kgr28:
You are no damn traveller, a migrant...

Of course I am

To "some" South Africans.....( the quotation was for you PunkyOh) all other African peoples are migrants. Only South Africans sit back in their country because they have everything there

PunkyOh:
And I've also met a lot of Nigerians, so what exactly is your point? Just be more specific next time so your group of parrots know exactly which South Africans you're referring to. There's a lot of monkey see-monkey do going around with people here.

They know themselves. If you are not one of them take your Sensitive azz somewhere else. This is not the place for you.

kgr28:
FVCKING fat lie! you make yourself important. you are just miserable migrant who's all over the place...

Migrants can't attend parties held by South African DJ's in the Uk and at the same time attend African business forums held in Havard and Pennsylvania every year.

Travellers however are able to do that.

kgr28:
I know you are jack of all trades, enlighten me.

I have been around the block Wena.

PunkyOh:
You see, the problem with you is that you think you know everything. And that your truth is the universal truth. Ding ding ding. Wake up! You just called South Africans myopic, but now are telling me that what I said about your people is based only on limited exposure. Have you met all South Africans for you to conclude we're myopic? Maybe the same number of South Africans you've met is the exact number of Nigerians I've met but somehow you think your opinion holds more water than mine. Please, have your head surgically removed from your àss. Pronto.

Not true Sisi. I have met a large spectrum of South Africans

Volunteers at several Charity events in different countries.

Students at Havard

Diplomats

Social commentators like Khaya Dlanga

Musicians like AKA ,Black coffee,

Dj's throwing parties in the UK

Dudes from the ANC Youth league

Professionals at events in Havard

Workers in OR tambo airport

Township dwellers


E.t.c , E.tc. E.t.c


I know the ones I am pointing out on this Forum and they know themselves as well.

kgr28:
And has that helped nigeria with their flat heads export emigrants
Every-one who left nigeria is relactant to go back. Even you, you are somewhere is Sudan.

You skipped Economics class in school so it would be hard to explain this to you.

OohLalah:
Why are you passing Nigerian government responsibilities to the world. You Need to control the type of people you send out to the world or they will slaughtered like the Fulani Cattle headers do in in Naija. Four just went down in Indonesia. And you are here saying our government must use their own resources to do what your own government neglects to do? Ain't you all just a bunch of parasitic beings? Mind you, the rules are changing, watch this space.

Again spoken like a true illiterate without a passport who is stuck in his shack in his Bantustan.

Again the highest number of black migrant graduates are Nigerians even after you consider relative population size.

1. Approximate number of diasporans outside the country 10 million

2. Extrapolate Women and Children.... 5 million

3. Extrapolate % professionals, students, entrpreneurs you get about 4. 5 million

4. leaving about 500,000 miscreants approximately 1% of the male diasporan population


OHH my GOd, bad Nigerians... bad bad Nigerians.

PunkyOh:
How has stepping out of your country benefited you lot? Because all I see is a bunch of assbackwards mòrons who seem to have time travelled straight from the dark ages. Stamp that onto your passport!

Exactly, all you see in Hilbrow, Sunnyside and JHB CBD are the Nigerians you know, which is why it is terribly important to get on that plane and travel.

DOon't be scared of Africa my dear boy. We don't Xenophobe foreigners out here.


Ps Meanwhile benefits of emigration:

1. Millions of dollars sent back to establish business, build homes and set up retirement. Ask your Afrikaaner population, they understand this phenomena quite well. You just got the country back 20 years ago so haven't caught on yet.

kgr28:
Also as soon as your government control his loose DOGS to SA.

Deport the loose DOGs back to Naija.

Why can't your police do their job?

Oops ,you can't even handle your own criminals.... Sorry I asked

OohLalah:
By the way check front page another batch of Nigerians being kicked out of Georgia, they are called terrorist and threats to that country. Seemingly no one wants you in their countries

This is why people say you guys are myopic and need to step outside your country.

If they were to tally the number of black immigrants outside of their countries who are professionals, in colleges with MBAs, in Havard, Yale, Oxford, Cambridge, Doctors, Scientist, Lawyers, etc. Nigerians would come out a resounding miles ahead even when you take relative numbers.

Please get a passport, leave your Bantustans and go see what the world looks like instead of soaking up news from newspaper articles.

***Shame*** in South African accent.

kgr28:
Tell the person who created this forum to turn it into internal nigerian forum and be accessed by nigerians only.

As soon as your government figures out how to control their borders