₦airaland Forum

OohLalah:
I just love it! Its going to get our government working at last. Creation of refugee camps is another big plus.
#No to Xenophobia!

When the foreigners leave, next it is service delivery riots,


I am guessing who will be next after taht?


A bunch of violent minded people always thirsty for blood.

Sile12:
Uwc & thanks for the comment bro. Just a bit to remind them how they lived decades ago, how some African countries stood up for them, how some people help them and came to their rescue. They are now seeing these people as enemies, as threats in their homeland. It shouldn't be, we are humans not animal. We should value lives, properties, starting with us, we can make this world a better place for us all. No to Destruction/Killing, No to Racism, No to Xenophobia.

During my time in the US, African foreigners faced this same antagonism from both Whites and the African American populations. AA had a terribly negative perception of Africans because of what they had been taught about the continent and it really was a translation of self hate. Over time the prejudices dwindled as more AA intermingled with second generation Africans who exposed them to their native cultures, tied to the realities of the continent they were exposed to via unconventional media sources.

The US is an immigrant based country which makes it quite unique from other countries with African migrant populations so maybe you can't really compare the two.

@ OP

I thank you for this flash backs on the day to day life during the Apatheid era.

It truly sheds light on the mindset of many South Africans which many Africans can't quite grasp yet. It further sheds light on the xenophobia and psychology of the country for both White, black, colored and indian peoples.

The gross similarities between the jim crow era in the United States is remarkable thus they peoples would share similar psychologies but probably in different stages as America has transcended many of its racial hurdles compared to South Africa

Miaraka:
Morpheus 24, you don't seem to get tired of trying to show that all South African are "xenophobic". Now you're even suggesting that the so-called xenophobia is embedded in our psyche. When you do that, you sound like the worst version of a xenophobe that has walked on the surface of Mother Earth. I'd like to believe that you didn't have time to think about the real meaning of your insult. You said it in anger. As the the intellectual that I sincerely believe you are, you may wish to peruse my two posts (see above) based on my lifetime experience here on the African continent, Europe and the US. Check them out and respond. I'd also propose that you begin to calm down, look at the bigger picture and propose the way forward for Nigeria-South Africa relations and the whole African continent.

Been on this forum much much longer than you my young friend and have pretty much exchanged words and ideas with many or your comrades.

I have also been on many a South African sites where Nigerians are mentioned in despicable manners even to the extent of using words like "necklace" and the likes. The problem I have is with the continued generalization of a country with 160 million people 95% of which are harshing out a daily living and go about their daily lives trying to survive. I see this folk everyday I walk out my door and it is an INSULT to them and by extension to me. They don't have a voice to speak out against people who do this. This is not to say I do not recognize my country has a negative image problem but perception is not necessarily reality. It is what you want to see.

It is unfortunate that the lesser exemplary Nigerians make their way to your country and commit crimes and I have never nor will I ever make excuses for their actions on this forum. It is a simple process to deal with these miscreants. Send them back home. Ban them from coming to your country. No one will fault you for this.

My problem is a South African's inability to look beyond his borders and understand the broader issues of the continent you live in. The continued excuses made for your country men's violent tendencies and the inability to face the psychological effects of APartheid which translate to Xenophobia, criminality and self hate thus continuing to shape your perception and vision of the continent you live in. When it is brought up ya'll become sensitive and a false sense of Patriotism is used to mask those insecurities.

When you start owning up to your issues then I will calm down.

When you stop calling Nigerians drug dealers, I will stop calling your people Xenophobes

Ya ll are not ready to sit down and have a meaningful discussion yet, You are still dealing with too many INTERNAL issues.

Until then I remain the ever relentless, in your face Morpheus24


****PERCEPTION IS NOT ALWAYS REALITY........FREE YOUR MIND****

14:
His killers were arrested, and they will be sentenced not less than 25yrs in prison, what more do you want?

SAYNOTOXENOPHOBIA!

LeSudAfricaine:
Zzzzzz...Snoozefest....

HEY!!, Wake up sleepy head

THERE GOES A XENOPHOBE!

LeSudAfricaine:
Yawn....that shht has lost it's shine dude, try something else

After you have finishing YAWNING and your mouth goes shut note this;

It hasn't. its still brewing in the psyche of Many South Africans. The government just managed to brush the incident under the carpet so they can continue with business as usual.

The underlining symptoms are there and will resurface in another form. Its only a matter of time.

Ticking time bomb!

ONe solution: Go back to school and change out that curriculum you have from kindergarten to matric!

PunkyOh:
Kikikiki. Now I'm dancing. Mzansi talent.

Unfortunately this generation of Sarafina are old now and the new ones growing up in Kwazulu natal are lost.


SAYNOTOXENOPHOBIA!!!

PunkyOh:
*yawns like a hippo*

After Yawing still #SAYNOTOXENOPHOBIA! so your tormented souls can be finally FREE!

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PunkyOh:
What does what I said have to do with tribal e-wars, wena? Btw, there are threads here that say otherwise, that you people do actually kill each other offline based on tribal differences.

SAYNOTOXENOPHOBIA!!

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PunkyOh:
Duh! If it was possible you would. Do you know just how many thunders had been fired at our yanshes on these boards? Overkill As I type, I'm in ashes.

Tribal E-Wars are simply that, no Yoruba killing Igbo and vice versa but we know when you guys say you are going to "necklace" a foreigner on line or when you toyi toyi, you really mean it.

LeSudAfricaine:
what an irony! Lol,

The real irony here is we do not "KILL" our foreign nationals here on Nairaland.

14:
His real name is Emmanuel Josias, not Sithole

How strange, His whole family must be using fake names then including his sister "THANDO"

South Africans always shifting blame!, When will you just face facts that you are XEnophobic


http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Emmanuel-Sithole-was-his-real-name-sister-20150504

Johannesburg - Mozambican national Emmanuel Sithole, who was murdered in Alexandra, was not using a fake name, his family said on Monday.

His name was Emmanuel Josias Sithole his sister Thando told News24 outside the Alexandra Magistrate's Court, where four men appeared for her brother's murder.


Speaking at a Freedom Day celebration last week, President Jacob Zuma said Sithole had used an alias while he lived in South Africa.

Thando Sithole said: "The thing is my brother was killed. Jacob Zuma was supposed to focus on those people to get into jail. Surnames and what, he was supposed to ask the family before telling the public."




She said she did not know if her brother was in South Africa legally, but his passport was used to obtain his death certificate.

kgr28:
Morphine dont, you are not important as you want to potray yourself.

Sisi. I am as important as you are which is why I refuse to take peoples lives in the name of Xenophobia!

OohLalah:
Who cares really? The world countries are tired of picking
up your bill, while your leaders loot the aid given to your
country. They just want you out, hear? Now take all the loot that educated you and get back home to build your country. No one want you in their countries! **loudspeaker**

The millions who voted and changed government are building their country

The millions outside of the country are repatriating hard foreign currency equivalents back home.

You however just got your country back 20 years ago. You can't go nowhere cause if you did, like animals caged for centuries you would not cope.

Jan van reibeeck left his country and sailed to South Africa look what his people got 100 of years later.

your Afrikaaner population move their skills across borders, look what they have to show for it.

When will you block heads learn

kgr28:
You are no damn traveller, a migrant...

Of course I am

To "some" South Africans.....( the quotation was for you PunkyOh) all other African peoples are migrants. Only South Africans sit back in their country because they have everything there

PunkyOh:
And I've also met a lot of Nigerians, so what exactly is your point? Just be more specific next time so your group of parrots know exactly which South Africans you're referring to. There's a lot of monkey see-monkey do going around with people here.

They know themselves. If you are not one of them take your Sensitive azz somewhere else. This is not the place for you.

kgr28:
FVCKING fat lie! you make yourself important. you are just miserable migrant who's all over the place...

Migrants can't attend parties held by South African DJ's in the Uk and at the same time attend African business forums held in Havard and Pennsylvania every year.

Travellers however are able to do that.

kgr28:
I know you are jack of all trades, enlighten me.

I have been around the block Wena.

PunkyOh:
You see, the problem with you is that you think you know everything. And that your truth is the universal truth. Ding ding ding. Wake up! You just called South Africans myopic, but now are telling me that what I said about your people is based only on limited exposure. Have you met all South Africans for you to conclude we're myopic? Maybe the same number of South Africans you've met is the exact number of Nigerians I've met but somehow you think your opinion holds more water than mine. Please, have your head surgically removed from your àss. Pronto.

Not true Sisi. I have met a large spectrum of South Africans

Volunteers at several Charity events in different countries.

Students at Havard

Diplomats

Social commentators like Khaya Dlanga

Musicians like AKA ,Black coffee,

Dj's throwing parties in the UK

Dudes from the ANC Youth league

Professionals at events in Havard

Workers in OR tambo airport

Township dwellers


E.t.c , E.tc. E.t.c


I know the ones I am pointing out on this Forum and they know themselves as well.

kgr28:
And has that helped nigeria with their flat heads export emigrants
Every-one who left nigeria is relactant to go back. Even you, you are somewhere is Sudan.

You skipped Economics class in school so it would be hard to explain this to you.

OohLalah:
Why are you passing Nigerian government responsibilities to the world. You Need to control the type of people you send out to the world or they will slaughtered like the Fulani Cattle headers do in in Naija. Four just went down in Indonesia. And you are here saying our government must use their own resources to do what your own government neglects to do? Ain't you all just a bunch of parasitic beings? Mind you, the rules are changing, watch this space.

Again spoken like a true illiterate without a passport who is stuck in his shack in his Bantustan.

Again the highest number of black migrant graduates are Nigerians even after you consider relative population size.

1. Approximate number of diasporans outside the country 10 million

2. Extrapolate Women and Children.... 5 million

3. Extrapolate % professionals, students, entrpreneurs you get about 4. 5 million

4. leaving about 500,000 miscreants approximately 1% of the male diasporan population


OHH my GOd, bad Nigerians... bad bad Nigerians.

PunkyOh:
How has stepping out of your country benefited you lot? Because all I see is a bunch of assbackwards mòrons who seem to have time travelled straight from the dark ages. Stamp that onto your passport!

Exactly, all you see in Hilbrow, Sunnyside and JHB CBD are the Nigerians you know, which is why it is terribly important to get on that plane and travel.

DOon't be scared of Africa my dear boy. We don't Xenophobe foreigners out here.


Ps Meanwhile benefits of emigration:

1. Millions of dollars sent back to establish business, build homes and set up retirement. Ask your Afrikaaner population, they understand this phenomena quite well. You just got the country back 20 years ago so haven't caught on yet.

kgr28:
Also as soon as your government control his loose DOGS to SA.

Deport the loose DOGs back to Naija.

Why can't your police do their job?

Oops ,you can't even handle your own criminals.... Sorry I asked

OohLalah:
By the way check front page another batch of Nigerians being kicked out of Georgia, they are called terrorist and threats to that country. Seemingly no one wants you in their countries

This is why people say you guys are myopic and need to step outside your country.

If they were to tally the number of black immigrants outside of their countries who are professionals, in colleges with MBAs, in Havard, Yale, Oxford, Cambridge, Doctors, Scientist, Lawyers, etc. Nigerians would come out a resounding miles ahead even when you take relative numbers.

Please get a passport, leave your Bantustans and go see what the world looks like instead of soaking up news from newspaper articles.

***Shame*** in South African accent.

kgr28:
Tell the person who created this forum to turn it into internal nigerian forum and be accessed by nigerians only.

As soon as your government figures out how to control their borders

kgr28:
Already said bye-bye to you!!

In my own house.

OohLalah:
You will do well to leave them alone if you are that much bothered. Your country men are killing each other in dozens about religion, grazing pastures, politics, rituals and God knows what else and your only concern is about a nations a million miles away hating other blacks when you hate your own country men and kill them at the slight provocation especially you being a Fulani and a notherner? And you say that you careless about SA? Mind the log in your eye while pointing out a split in someone else's. Go figure!

How would you know anything about the above issues if they are not presented on platforms like this to be freely discussed in the open but for South Africans you believe by not airing your dirty Laundry and decievig people about your welcoming nature so you can prop up your Tourism industry, we will not expose your deep dirty secrets

if you can't take the insults. Change the channel and vamus from here.

kgr28:
You have been fixing it since 1BC, the status quo still remains... what vision is now year 2100 ?

While we are fixing ours, tell your

1. Zulu King to also fix his narrow minded village mentality and thinking he this is 18th century Africa where Shaka was still alive.

2. Tell your government to introduce African history classes in your schools and stop soaking up Jan van reibeck and Paul Kruger garbage in school

3. Change your name from South Africa, because obviously some of you don't even know what "Africa" is outside of your Township/Bantustans

4. Stop singing Nkosi sikele li Africa cause you have identity crisis on this continent

5. Please stop trying to lead the continent because you think by inheriting White Apatheids legal, business, Political and infrastructural systems, this is what will make you Leaders on this continent.

Miaraka:
The fact is that you Nigerians are just the same as the people you say are insulting you. Just like you, they are ill-informed. Most of them have never been to Nigeria or other African countries., have never lived with or gone to school with Nigerians. They know only one type of Nigerian - the one who has no valid documents, who is up to no good, the drug dealer, brothel owner, human trafficker, etc. They are not aware of the Nigerians who live here, the ones who does legitimate business, the lecturer, the doctor, engineer, etc.
You too don't seem to know that there are other South Africans and other Zulus, the overwhelming majority who have nothing against Nigerians and other human beings, the hard-working, law-abiding and God-fearing South Africans who just want everyone who lives here to be properly registered abide by the laws of this country.
Do you even know that the people who were involved in attacks against immigrants were only a few thousand, maybe not more than two thousand criminals and lumpen proletariat in some parts of Durban and Johannesburg?
(For your information, there are 12 million Zulus here and all of us, a nation of more than 50 million are accused of being savages who hate Nigerians. Yet not even one Nigerian was killed, only one or two suffered minor injuries. We have an estimated 5 million African immigrants, including 3 million Zimbabweans and possibly half a million Nigerians. Only 4 immigrants died and 3 South Africans died.)
I really need to remind both you guys who're busy insulting and threatening each other that we are all African and it's time to sober up and combine forces to address all the issues and challenges that divide us. We have no choice. Nigeria and South Africa must work together and lead the struggle to unite, not to divide the continent. Nothing can defeat a united African continent,

Ehhh, My friend stop spoiling SA/Naija beef market here.

Do you think the Saffers here don't know that already. The people have issues they refuse to deal with as well and they want Nigerians to just be watching them as they do as they please to other Africans.

NOT UNDER MY WATCH!

PunkyOh:
Blu?

Sorry not her. This one Oohlala is also one of your illiterates.

Blu Ivy talks differently

kgr28:
They are seen as africans, by the WORLD...not which nationalities. the WORLD-Lefatshe boss, dont play dumb.

There is no need to continue with you.

You did not go to school.