₦airaland Forum

BluIvy:
Violent groups my asss. Do you know how many white armed groups are there in America? Why would blacks not have even one equally armed group? Its about time the life of black Americans count as equally as those of their white counter parts. Black immigrants in places like America who have never experienced white racism will always be sympathetic to the perpetrators because at the end of the day they always go home to their countries. Black Americans are citizen of American its about time they cement their position they have suffered enough and their struggle is what has afforded black immigrants their so revered comfort today in America. But guess what the same immigrant would never support any course by the same Black Americans but will always be judgeful of them.

You are truly bored BLuIVY,

I see you projecting.

The defamed statue issue in SA not enough for you to discuss on.

OOps I forgot you aint got no forums to do that!

BluIvy:
You sound like a small Nigeria boy. By the way how old are you? Bragging about a forum owned by an individual? Well you guys would brag about Dangote as if his your father. You people are shameful. I take that back when you have nothing to be proud of even a tarred road becomes development. Kikikikiikikii
Yes we want them out. Its our country our rules.
By the way you people are the ones who have problem with our fellow white citizens we don't. And if you follow what you've written there we usually get away sooner than later. You'll see you well be neatly packed up and sent home. Moffie¡

I am glad you at least agree with all of the bullet points. I mentioned. We finally agree on something.


Oh year forgot, another bullet points

YOU ARE A MOTSWANA FROM BOTSWANA. Your culture is patriachrial therefore your claim to SA is no different from the child of a Ghanaian makwerekwere father who had a child with a Zulu woman. YOU ARE A FOREIGNER in South AFrica and all the projecting in the world will not change that fact.

14:
what do you expect from the nation that is proud of massive population. China aint proud, hence their one kid policy.

Yet China is the most powerful economic nation cause they leveraged on their size to grow their economy.

A country that was labeled a cesspool by the west just 30 years ago now the West is getting nervous.


The same Western civilization that figured out that they were going to eventually run into trouble because of exponential population growth in South Africa where they would eventually find it difficult to control the slave classs population.

Of course you have bought into the western concept of eugenics via birth control methods in the disguise of the propaganda that the world is getting over populated when fact the amount of food that is produced in the world today can pretty much make the entire world population Obese.


FREE YOUR MIND!

MduZA:
there is neither white nor black forums in SA...they only exist in your imagination

Yes, we know you are the rainbow nation of colors


****SHAKING MY HEAD In SARCASM****

MduZA:
hence they speak indigenous language called AFRIKAANS....

No they speak an old Dutch dialect, dirtied it up with some African and English expressions and dubbed it AFRIKAANS!

This is besides the point. As stated earlier, Where are the black South African forums that addresses "black/African" issues I can go and chime in on.

MduZA:
this forum belongs to an Igbo man...can you give a link to similar forums ran by your tribe...

Correction. It was started by a "black" Yoruba boy.

Per your reasoning, White South Africans are not an indigenous tribe from Africa so they are excluded from my questioning.

BluIvy:
Its these bloody foreigners! Xenphobia continua!

Strange , every crime committed and visible on TV always attributed to FOREIGNERS.

Feed the flame.

XENPHOBIA REIGNS!

BluIvy:
You guys are just so petty! Now your chestbeating extends to the world wide web when you litter our countries. Nonsense!

Point one, Chest beating yes, none like Nairaland on the world wide web.

Point 2. If any Nigerian or other AFrican for that matter has any sense they will pack up and leave SA for Safricans. the reason being

PRE 1994....WE are suffering because of APATHEID, . APATHEID MUST GO!

POST 1994....We are suffering because the WHites have all the economic power and wealth. WHITE PRIVILEGE MUST GO!

POST BEE....We are suffering because the tenderpreneurs and government are corrupt. ZUMA MUST GO!

POST 2008 Foreigners migrating into the country.... We suffering because we cant figure out how these foreigners are making money and we aren't. THE FOREIGNERS MUST GO!

POST 2014...We are still suffering..BEcause.......

14:
its there already.
There is lots of forums like this, dont feel so important like you created something new in the world

Please send me the links. The only ones I know are run by Whites and I really don't care about those are not true representatives of South Africa.

Give me the link to similar forums on "black" issues in the country.

BEHOLD

EVEN MORE SUPERIOR AFRICANS.

At Axum and Somali

if you were to judge the below picture based on your Somali perspective, would this boy be a bantu as well?

axum:
Morpheus what part of Somalis view everyone in subsharan African as Bantu do you not understand? Its a Somali perspective. Ethiopian view the same way but call you guys different name but they still see themselves as different from other sub-Saharan africans.
Also the pictures of you comparing Horn to Bantu and saying they are the same is nonsensicle. As Ethiopian is not an ethnicity but a nationality.

Point one... I never said the two pictures are the same. Be careful with your words. They are more similar than they are vastly different from one another. Similarity does not equal "the same"

Point 2...Just to show you how nonsensical your post is above. the origins of the word AETHIOPIA (greek) is translated as burnt, blackened or dark skinned to define a nation. This was then adopted to become a nationality, much like the Sudan which is an Arabic word for dark people. yet were to draw no reasoning on this. So much for fact vs perspective. Go figure??

Perspectives are nothing more but opinions. When you deal with convincing FACT and ergo PROOF then we can start talking.

KenyanLady:
West African kids and especially morpheus24.
The term "Bantu" is NOT a derogatory term and all Sub Saharan African "Exclude HOA" look the same.
please be proud of your race.

Point 1....No where have I mentioned nor insinuated that "Bantu" is a derogatory term, because "skinnies" from East Africa call you that is none of my concern. I am very much aware of its origins, so stop PROJECTING.

Point 2. This has nothing to do with being proud but more to do with S>TU:IPIDTy that is perpetuated on nairaland by using terms inappropriately and in the guise of so called "perspectives". An example would be the dubious terminology AFRO-CAUCASOID, which no reasonable 20th century scientist would assign to anyone in this day and age.

Point 3. I realize you have the brain of a 6 year old so no matter how hard we try to argue our pint, its lost on your infantile mind.

two photos of a so called bantu and a so called Horner.

Oh my God, they are so different. wow!!

PS, please take down that map cause it further exposes your ignorance. There are three additional DNA colored coded tribe chats in sub-Saharan Africa yet you lump all of them under Bantu.

This means that this individual is a bantu as well

axum:
Like I said, in Somalia the people who were Bantu look like everyone else in Africa except the Horn, so in our language that word to mean anyone who is not from the Horn who is black. Does that mean you have to embrace that? No.

if we don't have to embrace it why are you here using it then, why not reserve it for when you are behind closed doors with your Somali brothers or when you are in your homeland since it should not be applicable in a website where most of us acknowledge the widely accepted definition of "bantu"

Its like a white supremacist coming on this website and using the n word and then justifying its truth by telling us that historically, this is what a majority of us were defined as (including Somalis I might add).

I don't know how you want any educated human being to rationalize that.

axum:
We see all Arabs as the same and lump north Africans as arabs. Thats just our world perspective.
I cannot tell the difference between a Kenyan and a Nigerian. I cant tell the difference between an ethiopian and eritrean. These are just categories people use to simplify things as no one can learn every ethnic group in Africa.
People categorize things in regions with common culture and history. Thus why people divide Africa into North Africa and Subsaharan Africa, and then divide sub-Saharan Africa as the Horn and rest.
So people just go by looks. I would not lump Fulanis in with Bantus as they look identifiable as Fulani.

Phenotypical catergorization that you mention above used by people like you only nforces that fact that minds like yours need to be re-oriented or bred out at worst.

Is the above boy an African bantu

axum:
Yes, as they look most like Bantus and are where they were kidnapped from.

So all the slaves taken from the sene-gambia, Ghana, Ivory coast, Dahomey, Nigeria, Niger, Mali would be lumped into Bantus s well.

See when I say you just expose yourself all the time.

In your mind "Bantu"= rest of Africa excluding the Horn. And conscious minded Africans are supposed to embrace this.

Men?

axum:
1. I dont subscribe to any ideology created by whites. Somalis always knew they were different from Bantus. They always labeled themselves Somali. Historically the entire people in the Horn once called themselves Cushitic, thus where the language branches name originated from. If a white person can see this difference and just label us Hamitic, that does not matter to me. Everyone has labels for everything, Yes, the differences between Somalis and Bantus are scientific in that we have a different culture, DNA, history and look different.

Save your gibberish history lesson for uneducated minds who are stuck on looks or can't see behind the fallacy of the above statements. Hiding behind the veal of "we have always known we are different" and "we have a different culture, DNA, history and look" is ILLOGICAL THINKING

You can say they same thing to about any two groups of people who live anywhere in the world. A Zulu is as much different culturally, genetically, phenotypically and historically from say a Ghana man. The difference you continue to point out is very clear.

It boils down to pheno-typical representations of Africans otherwise you wouldn't post pictures or somalians that are closer in looks to West Asians. Whether inadvertently or deliberately, it continues to reinforce the same positions as 19 century racial science which continues to pervade the mind set of everyone across the globe.

I am sorry to say you are a victim of this thinking, subconscious or conscious.

axum:
2. How can you even say I subscribe to white peoples ideology on a subconscious level? You do realize that Somali people have not been influenced by white people at all, we are the least influenced people in Africa. We dont share the same religion as whites, we dont hold inferiority complex, we defeated many of them in wars through out the last 500 years. If you think the Somali person in Somalia who is Muslim, xenophobic, clannish, some how believes whites are better than him/her, that you are sadly misguided. Why do you think Whites complain that Somalis dont assimilative and bring their culture, religion where ever they go?

it is good to be proud of your heritage and where you originate from but the above is just about the most S>TUP> rebuttal I have ever read.

Again save this for history class.

axum:
3. Your entire comment, is just a theory that you hold simply on the actions you have seen on those Blacks who are in America/West and Not Somalis. There are many words in every language to describe the sun that we all see everyday. I am typing in english, saying words like Hamitic (which I rarely use, as we prefer to call ourselves Somali), is only my way of showing that anyone outside of Africa can see the differences that you try to hide. Many here are so ashamed of their culture, history, how they look, that they will boldly state that they look no different than a Somali or Ethiopian.
I only bring in the white mans perspective every once in a while to show that their are clear and obvious differences which many in here try to hide under the guise of pan africansim- which really is another way of trying to not confront your own Bantu history and picking and choosing what history you like from other places in Africa.
4. I am many things Morpheous, but I do not subscribe to white peoples ideas, nor have any subconscious believes or ideas that some how put them on a pedestool. The very fact that they are non Muslim alone will not let me do that. Let alone the fact that I am a Somali who believes and was raised to believe that we are the best and that no circumstance how ever bleak will never change that.

Refer to first comment again for your answer and in addition it is narcissistic of humans to believe they are superior to others and these breeds the same mindsets that create ideologies perpetrated by euro- scientist and I see no difference between that and what is perpetrated by you in the guise of Somali proudness.

1. Are you trying to cajole so called "Bantu" people into realizing there are differences in phenotypes in Africa, If that is the mission. save your breath there are many like Morpheus on this planet who already understand that.

2. If you were truly being scientific and fair you would understand that Bantu people stop somewhere near Cameroon and therefore your insinuation that all people outside of your so called HORN..."cushite"...."Nubian"... Aehtiopian...Somali breeds are Bantu is nonsensical.

BEHOLD MORE SUPERIOR AFRICANS!

axum:
These people start peeling when they go outside during summer. They look even paler during winter like a ghost, yet they have some how managed to convince Black people to bleach, despite they themselves paying so much money to tan all year long just so they can look like they are not a ghost.

Its strange how you point out the above brainwash on black people about "bleaching" when in likeness, you subconsciously subscribe to the same19th century racial hierarchy/ideology that was created and implemented by these same pale faces that put so called "Bantu negriods" on the bottom of the chart and they on the top while the remaining spectrum in between are happy to ride along with this as long as they are not at the bottom.

Hmmmm?

BEHOLD MORE SUPERIOR AFRICANS!

axum:
Never heard of that drug, must be what be what you are typically prescribed when sexually frustrated.
Good to see you, I honestly thought you died in the great Ebola epidemic of 2014. You are a survivor.

Mental illness is many times not recognizable by the one who is afflicted with it, thus as such you wouldn't know if the drug was administered to you but you would feel its effects.

You need help. Get it before the disease eats your entire brain cells.

BEHOLD MORE SUPERIOR AFRICANS

14:
kwaaaa, apparently it is kenya' nairobi

@ 14


Please take this nonsense to your own websites and forums

ooops....you don't have any, do you

yodanyrd:
yeah, trust me lol

Yall remind me of the people refered to as "Coloreds" in South Africa, kinda the same mix... Malaysian, European and African. You should look it up, you will see the similarities.

BEHOLD...SUPERIOR LOOKING AFRICANS!!

axum:
Majority of Somalis think the way I do, even though some might not say exactly how I say things. I was raised by a Somali mother, father, and raised with somali brothers and sisters who were all taught the same thing.

This schizophrenic boy, you no dey tire with this nonsense, how many years now the same thing. You definitely are mentally ill.

NURSE.... 600 mg of Haloperidol please!

I believe the OP has asked this question before and doesn't really care about the answers being given, his/her mind is made up.

14:
Nigeria, i warn you with these thugs. Very soon they will be fighting for boko haram.

I wouldn't be surprised, if Boko has enough money but then again they are also pale faced pork eating infidels so that might not suite BOKO at at all walahi!

BluIvy:
Imagine! These guys are going to be used to to create a war very soon if their elections go against the reigning president,then they will start crying "why South Africa hate us" when we are warning them they make us the enemy. They are inviting trouble the are just to dumbb to see.

You think this is the first crisis in Nigeria. Where is the civil war since Biafra. Too much oil money, The rest of the greedy oil consuming world will not let it happen.

Those mercenaries are simply that, Mercenaries. Guns for hire, Soldiers of fortune. The fact that they are a product of the Apatheid regime makes no difference. They will fight a herd of cattle if they paid enough to do so.

14:
So Nigeria is taking a risk by employing these fools called mescenaries, little do they know that these guys were the ones who caused havoc in Angola civil war. If i was a Nigerian, i would be very worried. Down the line there will be Civil warin Nigeria because of these thugs.

They are mercenaries. Full stop. Yes we know where they are from but they are no more than former soldiering guns for hire. You pay them, they do their work and they leave.

na today mercenary start for Africa.

Please...

HumbledbYGrace:
Donodion, bluivy, Morpheus24 and dieantwordRSA please respect yourselves.

Humble, them don give you moderator power?

BluIvy:
Unfortunately Mr nobody, the robbers were foreigners that alone justifies our xenophobia.

Of course they are, as foreign as you are no?

dieantwordRSA:
truth hurts...80%-90% of central and northern Nigerians are poor and illiterate..while SE and SW Nigerian poverty rate stands at 60% to 55%, 77% SE Nigerians are literate meaning they have been to high school and SW Nigerian literacy stands at 79%.
AGAIN I TOLD U FLAT HEAD DUMMIES, YA'LL SHOULD BE MY FULLTIME POLITICS STUDENTS...
YOUR PRESIDENT IS REPEATING WHAT I SAID.... UCT!!!UCT!!!!!!!!UCT!!!!!!I know am naughty but Bleep am well schooled and know AFRICA in and out.

We know you DientwordRSA aka JOMOKENYATTA aka HAlf Ghana Half SA boy. We know you are all over the net spreading your hate for Nigerians caused by the conflict within yourself about not knowing where you actually belong. Projecting is an action to hide the true inferiority you feel about yourself.

Soldiers for hire are nothing more than stateless, armed hooligans who will fight with anybody for an amount.

Morpheus can see right through you. It will not work here on Nairaland.

Na you go tire eventually on the inevitability that you are outnumbered both now and in the future.


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