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Ok so the way Kennis handles their record label is anyone's business how? I'm wondering what this has to do with 2face and faze. Anyway if we have to say anything about that, I'm sure they definitely didn't put a gun to anyone's head before they signed. Its your responsibility to go through any contract properly before you sign. I'm glad u used Paul Play as an example he wasn't happy and he left meaning they don't tie anyone down. They do all that u mentioned and artists still sign with them. . . What does that tell u? All that stuff about establishing contacts and standing on the line outside at these award show. . . do u think its fun?? Its called aggressive marketing. They know what they want for their business and they went for it. In fact from all u mentioned about them I think I admire them more. About 2face, his song was big throughout Africa, he had the biggest single in Africa so it was only right that they launched MTV Base with his song. I have said it b4 and I'll say it again, both parties (2face and Kennis) fulfilled their obligation. 2face came out with a great song and album and Kennis marketed him accordingly. Thats how any kind of successful business partnership works.

Baro:
Thank God, Mtv award just dey come,Tetuila and Eedris just comot 4 Keke label, if not them sef 4 don win Mtv or get nomination. Thank God!!

Una know wetin? Keke na PDP , if u nor fit beat them , make u join them, Faze you hear, atleast your awards 4 don still plenty small. Make una watch o, shebi Olu Mainain don join PDP kEKE LABEL, im go start to win awards right left and centre.

PDP KEKE!!! SHARE D MONEY AWARDS!!!!

Yeah as if its only guys from Kennis that have won or been nominated. Excuses are too much and they're ridiculous. Keep deceiving yourself by saying Tony Tetuila would have won, when 2face won it wasn't like he was the only one on Kennis. Then we've been through this b4 how does it really sound to you that Kennis has the power to sway MTV, and MOBO their way?? I mean lets be real!!! Its MTV not OGBC, not even AIT. You guys keep it real thats all I'm saying.

Baro:
Eleshin you forgot to add

Tony Tetuila
Mtv                               None_{wouldnt have been long if still with Keke}
Mobo Nomination            1
Kora                              not sure
Channel 0                      Atleast 2
Ghana Music Award        1           
Endorsement                Glo Ambassador
Local awards                 Numerous













With visits to Aso rock , Sierra leonian state house etc,

Bravo Tetuila you are the best!!!

Wow compare the achievements u stated above and compare it to what 2face has achieved, it does not even begin to come close so your sacarsm doesn't even work here. Say whatever you want about Tetuila he has his style and he's good at it, he has his own loyal fans everywhere. I'm not going to equate him to any of these guys we're comparing but he's good at what he does.

sect:
@eleshin artists are judged based on quality and not level of success achieved, album mass sales, personal relationship, popularity, record label royalties, number of awards won,number of nominations ever recieved,number of stage performance done,number of countries travelled,largest fan base or whatsoever and mrmetoo thats why i usually fault the ACTS awards because i think the basis for giving out the awards is level of success achieved and not the quality of an artist's music.

If artists are not based on all those factors you mentioned, then I really wonder what they should be based on. I'm glad u mentioned "quality" because all those stuff u mentioned above are the direct results of quality. Without quality there's no way u can achieve all. Maybe u'll achieve some and not the others but we all know Tuface has all that wrapped around him

Then sect, before I continue with the lyrics, I just want to say these songs I'm going to mention are good but they have wack lyrics. So let no one say I said the songs are not nice. I'll list these songs off the top of my head. . .

Kpo Kpo Dipo, Tattoo Girls, Kolomental, Alphabetic Love.

Even the "For Instance" you mentioned from Tuface's album at least carries a message

@Pheesayor

Oo wow!!!!!!!! Akon is the bad guy Pls How Now someone has to be bad for telling it as it is You have the right to say that about Akon but u won't find it likely if anyone says faze lied. . . how about that?? Your devotion to faze is crossing #1 fan to almost obssessive fan. To you, faze can do no wrong. You said u've been trying to reach him and someone else picks up, then ask the person lets see what u & the person have to say. I'm guessing the person picking up should be close enough to him to know at least the basic details.

I really don't see how Akon is the bad guy too. . . If he never had a deal with faze, then he never had one. As it had been said earlier a 30min press conference and or interview with a mag, tv, radio station or whatever form of media he chooses to convey the message won't stop him from shooting his video. He's just making this thing drag on longer, he should just come out, clear the air and move on, if not that dark cloud would keep looming over his head. Anyway he has chosen to do it the way he wants to do it so we have no choice but to wait for him to get back from SA. I just hope he doesn't have to jet out again for another "emergency" video shoot when the time comes again.

amma:
It's really not necessary to argue the obvious- Faze is much better than 2 Face. 2 Face has no lyrics, maybe good beat but nothing more than that, he can't even perform. Faze may not be as good as others but Damn u gotta hand it to him. Independent is muc much much much much better album tnan Grass 2 Grace. Faze is THE MAN.

So first things first 2face has no lyrics but faze has right I'm beginning to wonder if some people know what lyrics means and if they know what makes up good ones. R u sure you have listened to both albums well? 2face has the lyrics category on lock down if we go by that argument. Lets not argue about their lyrics honestly because faze's lyrics are really nothing to write home about.

Then he can't perform and he gets asked to perform all over the world constantly. I have been to one of his concerts before and I can tell u right now that all of us that went there had a ball. Again, at least he gets to perform and share the stage with big names.

Faze might not be good as others but better than 2face I'm beginning to wonder who these "others" might be. Please 2face on top of the pack, so those "others" u're talking about come after 2face then after them comes faze. If thats the case, I'm really wondering y we're having this argument

@playmate

i agree u have to put focus on the website but not more than what Akon himself said. U guys act like Akon never said it and the website just reported some random news. How can u put more focus on someone that reported the news than the person that actually made the news?

@Eldee

Very nice post, you made a lot of sense. When I told someone the other day that these artists' websites are not the best place to get the latest info about them some other person attacked me. Faze himself publicized this thing, so how come he hasn't done any form of damage control At least he can't claim he hasn't heard about it. One more thing, I think we need to move past hiphop world, yes they reported it but Akon said it with his own mouth. So all these questions about them hating or loving faze should not even be an issue. They reported a direct quote which many people even said said they watched on tv.

@Pheesayor

What do you mean by "Akon confirmed faze alone" Then lets be real, just because he's busy does not mean his site shouldn't be updated. I can guarantee you he's not the one that built/manages the website so even if he goes to the moon that shouldn't stop his website from being updated, if not for any other reason, they should update it to clarify this whole mess. Its simply the right thing to do!!! Again pheesayor lets put the focus on what AKON SAID not what one website or the other reported because you guys want to turn this into something hiphop world just cooked up "IN THE KITCHEN" ***pun intended****

nairaland was shut down for a couple of days so I guess people need time to get warmed back up. All i know though is 2face is still the best, faze still does not come anywhere close. Has faze said anything yet wrt to this Akon issue, he's really quiet about it o

pls does anyone have jedi jedi - olu maintain

pls since the award is over can anyone pls tell us the winner? Time for guessing is over

Effa:
No be small thing oh
2 baba all the way

atleast he's fine videos got him an award in the just nigeria music video award

o really? which one(s)? do u have the list of winners or a link or somn?

please do u guys have any link or so where we can listen to this "highly anticipated" remix

ne-yola:
first of all

mr me too " simple username duzn't make sense"

your posting duzn't make sense also

do that mean you're SENSELESS

u be the judge

piss out

lol. . . see me see trouble o. my guy enjoy sha

***Getting back to the topic after some quite obnoxious and distracting posts***

@playmate

I didn't bring up the nairaland polls and international awards stuff up by myself, it was your co-faze fan that brought up the whole nairaland poll crap and I replied.

ne-yola:
after reading the poll results ( @ least so far), it just confirmed one thing as i had always preferred

Faze to tu-face

and that just confirms the fact that Faze is more popular to nairalanders than tu-face ( popular in that context) and that all tu-baba's awards have been purely commercial and publicity like

Nas Vs Jayzee

Piss out Y'all

And that makes sense


"Mr Baltimore", all these ridiculous people that put America on a pedestal. I'm on nairaland, I don't need to call anyone to check my grammar, I know u have to call your whole family to chip in before you submit your posts but I really don't need to, its really not that serious.

ne-yola:
@ tosinadeda

Your job is not to decide whther a statement is dry or wet , besides it just rained heavily this evening that makes it wet, lol

@ mr me too

Mr baltimore, (lol just kidding )the truth is[b] i seriously can make of any thing u posted [/b]and i seriously don't want to think its all typographical errors

I believe i have made my self clear " Please press "preview" then spell check " to be sure everything is in order and that you're making sense before you post

more preferably , call your wife (if you're married), your mom ( if you're not) , your girlfriend ( if you're planning to very soon) to proof read before posting

Many tanks and have a blessed evening !

Mr English teacher, so after all the members of your family checked your post, thats the best u could come up with. . . pathetic!!!!

@ne-yola

Wow english teacher. . . Na Wa O. I guess I made a simple mistake now and that questions my location. . . "Hmmm Am I even sure I attended english class in school, I wonder" was it the "yawa" that threw u off or that I wrote "that" instead of "don't". Please go and sit down it was a word that was wrong. How does that sound to you "and you are supposed to be from baltimore" thats really less than intelligent so just because I stay in an American city, I'm immune to mistakes.

"You guys can take that I really DON'T have any yawa with that". Do you now believe I stay in bmore?

@ne-yola

if i was a typical faze fan guess what my reply would have been. . . "Great Post, True Talk" but lets get back to reality right now. . . what did that post mean pls? Don't worry other faze fans have been there, done that, comparing international awards to Nairaland Polls. . . Good Job!!! You guys can take that I really that have any yawa with that

Yeah he was saying the truth and crying in the bath tub. . . the video and the song begs for pity, he wants you to feel sorry for him and I really don't care what the theme of your song is, I'll keep saying it, I love the song and the video its still on my favorite list on youtube. Its just that the song so defined his career that people keep referring back to it, "o he did it by himself or o they left him" all that independent stuff no need to bring it up, thats what he chose. Even the least successful member of the group didn't come out crying. Take a look at Tony Tetuila, he actually got kicked out of his group, he also came out with a song but it was a song that made you want to celebrate and dance with him, almost like "u guys dumped me but take a look at me now". Everyone definitely has different ways of dealing with stuff but please we don't need to hear it every chance we get either from him or his fans

@playmate

We've been through all this you're bringing up already. You're talking as if kennis cooked up the song in a studio with a random guy and they gave 2face to just lip-sync. Tuface has everything to do with his success as much as Kennis and vice versa. Artists are signed under major labels everyday and its definitely not like the picture you just painted. You talk like they just own you for the rest of your life or when u sign with them u're signing ur life away. Its simply not so. All this "independent" thing u guys keep bringing up about faze is another pity tactic, so that people would think "o poor boy he made it this far just by himself" who cares? He chose to be independent and compete with already established labels so he should just suck it up and give them a run for their money. The market is aggressive, if he can't handle it he should stick to singing and let the professionals do their job. KENNIS DOES NOT OWN TUFACE, kennis owes 2face as much as 2face owes them, it was a very profitable union. 2face single handedly took kennis to another level. So pls lets stop all this Kennis thing both parties did their jobs accordingly, I'm sure the agreement would have gone a little something like this "Kennis: 2face keep giving us great songs and we'll use all of our resources to make sure your music gets to as much people as possible" Guess what Both parties fulfilled their obligation and it resulted in a very lucrative partnership

@playmate
ok u took my posts to another level with your reply but its all good I didn't mean to insult u sha I just thought it was pretty obvious the reason anyone would say an artist flies around. Then here we go again with the Kennis, TUFACE IS NO MORE UNDER KENNIS and he's still making things happen. "Snap of a finger". . . wow as if 2face was just sitting down in his house and Kennis music was just delivering money, accolades, and fame to him without doing anything. I agree we should be responsible with our posts but at the same time pls lets try to put logical arguments forward

@sect

Faze flies where? To do what? We're not talking about visits here, we're talking about concerts, performances, shows, etc. I have never heard of a faze concert over here before. Then the big deal about 2face's flying around is that he goes to more countries than all those other artists u mentioned so thats the big deal except maybe Lagbaja so its definitely a big deal.

@playmate

Eleshin, if i may answer the question 4 u. . . The lesson the flying around simply teaches us is that if u're great at what u do, u reap the benefits, there's a high demand for you. All the shows 2face is going for all around the world just goes to show you how great he is at what he does, he has to satisfy these demands as much as he can. I wouldn't have thought that'll be too hard for anyone to figure out but it just goes to show how most faze fans love to turn a deaf ear and a blind eye to the obvious. People that prefer tuface or faze would more than likely not agree that the other is better just by the words we write down therefore other factors have to be considered to show superiority. All those "other factors" considered we all know who takes it.

Please did anyone on this thread or Nairaland buy that album in the first six days Because if it really sold one million copies there should be a couple of people even here that bought the album. One million copies is not a joke, its a whole chunk of people and as someone said earlier I'm not doubting the sales but do we really have huge distributors and shippers like that I mean on that scale that'll be able to ship out over a million copies in a week. Even in America, where entertainment distribution is second to none, many artists don't have that many copies shipped out in the first week.

@sect

You said someone's post sounded dumb because he brought up the issue of 2face flying all over. Then u asked two questions. . . What it has to do with music and would that improve his vocals. With the statements and questions I actually think eleshin's post is smarter than yours and I'll give u the reasons. What it has to do with music, Hmmmmm. . . I'll say EVERYTHING, thats what an artist does, a good artist for that matter, when an artist is talented like 2face theres a huge demand for that artist and thats the reason he has to fly to these different countries to perform, lets remember his music not his looks or who is father is got him to those places. Then would flying about make his vocals better, again I'll say YES, they say "practice makes perfect", singing and performing regularly will actually improve his vocals and performing skills. Skills we all know artists need to improve constantly to make them keep moving to the next level. Flying about also causes international exposure which results into a wider fan base and ultimately bigger market. Lastly, everyone loves to be in the presence of greatness, hence the demand, people want 2face all around to deliver the beautiful voice and flows to them. As for the video, concrete said it all, popular demand. Even pheesayor, a faze fan, admitted he would have thought they'll have made a video for the song because its such a nice song

@pheesayor

Excuses, pity, complaining!!!! Thats what faze is good for and I think you're just following after your Idol. For faze's first album, he was with West Side records right That album was really not very popular and definitely not that successful and your reason for it as you claim is that it wasn't like the album wasn't good but because it wasn't marketed properly. So why didn't they market the album properly I'm sure u'll come out and say they don't enough resources like Kennis but think about it, they had enough money to bring in Akon but not enough money to market their own artist. Whats the deal with that?

@eleshin

Pheesayor no be girl o

jejelolatu:
Mrmeeto, that was SPOT ON. [b]and golden boy, calling faze local champion was an error, my mistake. I should apologise to PSQUARE. [/b]They are d reigning local champions. Even MODE 9 that is into RAP, has covered more grounds than faze. Though, other things being equal, faze should pick up some awards at d naija music video awards. video awards are aimed at commending directors and whoeva is in charge of pictures and special effects. But it would still serve as consolation to his fans. Please make una vote for faze o. Lets give faze and his fans something to brag about, now that the akon stuff has hit d rocks.

FREAKING OUCH!!!!!!!!!

@faze fans

You call yourselves unbiased music lovers but u guys refuse to even admit the most obvious stuff e.g. Yahooze was a bigger hit than Kololmental. . . I won't have expected anyone to even argue about that or that Kolomental is a meaningless song that was just solely recorded to get u on the dance floor. . . Then taking a look at both albums and even comparing the lyrics and the message they contain. . . Also go ahead and look at awards, 2face probably has a closet filled with them both int'l and local while your dear faze has maybe one local award. . . In terms of album sales, 2face takes that one too we all know that. . . In terms of popularity, he has beaten faze has down within Africa and beyond. . . Collaborations, too many local artists to mention, he has VIP, Beenie Man, Wyclef which was with faze too but he was only given 16bars compared to 2face that appeared in almost every part of the song. Akon, as I heard was asked twice and he stated the same thing, No faze just 2face. Concerts. . . 2face tours all over the world, sharing the stage with big names. This is what an artists does, thats what makes a complete artist and 2face excels far above faze in all those categories, faze doesn't even come close. If faze took some and 2face took some then I'll see the reason for this argument. If u compare Alicia Keys to Beyonce even if Beyonce takes sales, there would be so many other parts I'm sure they'll come so close, in terms of awards and shows but not 2face and faze there are really no grounds for comparison. The only thing u guys have held on to is videos but guess what Thats all about the creativity of the music video director not necessarily the artist. Join your guy Warfy Boy, he too had to admit his arguments were based on sentiments. I know u guys love faze and want to declare it and all but comparing both of them, FOR NOW, is ridiculous.

@sect

The award wasn't about music so what was it about. Pls don't let the "act" thing throw you off. Its everything wrapped in one, they're talking about a complete artist. There are no different genres or categories so they have to wrap everything into one. I thought it was a music award, what else could it be about apart from music Movies or Magic Tricks pls give us your own thoughts. I'm glad "jejelolatu" listed all the hits from the album for you, there are so many good songs on there that its actually hard to pick the best. It amazes me you keep justifying this "kolomental" song when u said yourself it a song about craziness. "Tattoo girls" u mentioned too is also a meaningless song that is just supposed to be catchy with no real substance. Honestly comparing these two guys does not make sense 2face has left this guy, faze can't even see his brake lights right now. Wasn't it after these two most recent albums were released that Akon, the guy u guys carried on your heads like a crown, came out openly directly from his own mouth that he didn't have a deal with faze but he's trying to work something out with 2face? The superiority just keeps getting clearer and clearer but u guys just keep denying. Sales, awards, shows, collabos, etc. Do u think its just by face an artists uses to get all that?? Pls lets get real!!! Theres really no comparison. I advise faze fans to open another thread and compare him to someone else, if faze is truly better than that person be rest assured my posts would be in favor of him

@soloreal

My views are myopic ehn? People just throw words around sha. If u can justify your statement or observation pls do. Even when evidence slaps u guys in the face, u guys still turn around and just say whatever. U guys are so blinded by your fan-ism or whatever for this guy that u guys have refused to admit the truth. "Faze hater". . . another set of words u guys use to make yourselves seem more important and relevant. Nobody hates faze forget about it

@Baro

Pls we all know that not even true, jejelolatu brought the whole yahooze thing up because she was even trying to defend faze a bit. It was supposed to be a very simple and obvious point but as usual there were some people that'll blow stuff out of proportion in the name of defending faze. Yahooze/Kolomental are strictly club bangers, tuface really did not have a solely "club-banging" song but the album overall contained hits. Case example: "Crank that Soulja Boy" Vs. "Stronger" by kanye west. Soulja boy was everywhere and I mean EVERYWHERE but u still can't compare it to "stronger" not to talk of comparing albums. Same here we all know "Kolomental" was the most popular song on the album by a mile while tuface maintained a stream of steady hits. Remember we have awards and sales to prove it. ^_^

@pheesayor
Honestly I hope u get paid for this!!! Lemme tell u something just because I don't stay in Naija does not mean I don't know whats going on in the social circle. I have people trooping in and out of here almost every month to & from naija. My sis just left me about 2weeks ago, my 2 very close cousins just came back from naija not to talk of others, I still have enough friends over there that are steady rockers. . . lol. So I know how big "yahooze" was even in naija, i was only trying to buttress my point by talking about its popularity over here. As far as the meaning goes u can interprete it anyway u want to, I work/hustle from mon-fri, when its the weekend I think I deserve to party. If I make one million dollars I'll probably buy like a bentley rather than a hummer and it doesn't have to be fraud, it could be a project I was working on that a multi-million dollar company picked up, in Olu's case it could be a dream of him signing a $1m recording contract. U see, different interpretations but if u want to see it as fraud well. . .
@Effa

I feel u from 2baba to Olu but its almost getting ridiculous to keep comparing faze to 2face maybe thats y.

concrete:
LOL at faze writing african queen. some of his fans just like to make stuff up

2face HAS done performances with live bands before and faze doesn't always perform with live musicians. why is this even an issue. clearly, people think 2face is a good live performer as he's been to some 8 different countries this year alone.

it is not speculation but FACT that, REGARDLESS of when yahooze and kolomental were released, YAHOOZE is the bigger hit. they are both pretty stupid songs but they are fun and that's the purpose. these are club bangers and therefore NOT meant to be taken too seriously or to be deep in meaning/message

LOL at faze fans again, trying to justify the stupidity of kolomental. it's just about stating the obvious. must you guys argue EVERYTHING?

Its really really funny. The concept is craziness and that makes sense how At least Olu was saying people work from Mon-Fri and now its time to party and spend the money u hustled for. People have been singing about that sort of thing for ages in different genre. For e.g. Craig David's "Time to Party

@Pheesayor
It might be true it was highly anticipated but that hardly explains the number surpassing faze's own like that if u're going to be comparing them. Just admit it, this arguement is not even about 2face, Yahooze was a way bigger hit. I know u guys love to limit faze's base to naija, which is good for u guys I guess but over here u can't even begin to compare their popularity. Like every party from baby showers to liitle gatherings to club parties yahooze is played by popular request. Kolomental wasn't really a big hit here, people knew it but it definitely wasn't as big