Education › Re: This Is The Most Untaught Topic In Secondary Mathematics. Were You Taught? by Mrshape(op): 6:23am On Mar 27, 2021 |
Khd95: The way I take hate maths ehhn
Till today, XY is yet to out food on my table Xy has put sufficient food on my table. With a lot of overflow |
Education › Re: This Is The Most Untaught Topic In Secondary Mathematics. Were You Taught? by Mrshape(op): 8:17pm On Mar 26, 2021 |
BBBells: may GOD bless mr ajape, he thought me
and i made sure i taught my students too
MAY GOD BLESS MY TEACHERS God bless your teacher. God bless you too |
Education › Re: Secondary Teacher Disappears With N2m WAEC Enrolment Fee In Edo by Mrshape: 7:59pm On Mar 26, 2021 |
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Education › Re: This Is The Most Untaught Topic In Secondary Mathematics. Were You Taught? by Mrshape(op): 7:54pm On Mar 26, 2021 |
Rgade: Is there something the rest of us don't know of?......  I was shocked too. |
Education › Re: This Is The Most Untaught Topic In Secondary Mathematics. Were You Taught? by Mrshape(op): 7:32pm On Mar 26, 2021 |
Hashabiah: This part was skipped due to the fact our math teacher was an Engineer. I understand the hidden details in your comment. Very well |
Education › This Is The Most Untaught Topic In Secondary Mathematics. Were You Taught? by Mrshape(op): 7:18pm On Mar 26, 2021 |
Go in to your secondary school General mathematics note, check your children's note, you will find out that you or many of your children did not do it in school. They only introduce them to logical connectors at best chain rule and simple set. Test for validity is hardly and poorly taught. Even some textbook don't fully understand what they are writing on the topic. Were you taught? Were your children taught? |
Education › Re: What Is The Answer To This Confusing and Controversial Mathematics Question. by Mrshape: 10:07am On Mar 14, 2021 |
Akamariner: Actually mine gave me 1 (porpo) your calculator is programmed with with strong operand. |
Education › Re: What Is The Answer To This Confusing and Controversial Mathematics Question. by Mrshape: 6:10am On Mar 14, 2021 |
ShadowCracker: I saw this question on Twitter, it was quite controversial so I have decided to bring it here .
8 / 2 (2 + 2).
Order of Operations 1. Perform all calculations within parentheses and other grouping symbols following the order listed in Steps 2–4 below, working from the innermost pair of grouping symbols to the outermost pair. 2. Evaluate all exponential expressions. 3. Perform all multiplications and divisions as they occur from left to right. 4. Perform all additions and subtractions as they occur from left to right.
O1 : (2 + 2) = 4. O3 : 8 / 2 (4) => 8 / 2 * 4 => 4 * 4 => 16.
At O3: I know some people will get 1, it is wrong . 8 / 2 (4) => 8 / 8 => 1 -------------- wrong. Evaluation is from left to right. The only scenario you will get 1 is if it is structured this way => 8 / ( 2 * (4) ).
In my opinion, 16 is the right answer, not 1, I would like to see other mathematicians' opinions on this.
cc: Martinez39s Mrshape luv2rolly Kylekent59 donaytexx1 stanliwise. The answer is 16. The problem is people fail to know the direction of movement in multiplication ad division which is left to right. ( note addition and subtraction is also left to right) |
Education › Local Mathematics Competition For Mathematics Teachers by Mrshape(op): 8:10pm On Mar 12, 2021 |
Is there any local mathematics competition for private school teachers? I know of cowbellpedial but a local one like local government will be more fun, where you will know the schools you are competing with. But the funny thing is that most private schools will not allow their mathematics teachers participate. |
Education › Re: Jss3 Essential Mathematics The Textbook Failed It. Can You Get It? by Mrshape(op): 8:55pm On Mar 09, 2021 |
donaytexx1: My brother, I am really embarrassed by that terrible mistake I made. And I guess that was the kind of mistake that the textbook authors made in their solutions. If I had squared both sides (supposed to be done), I would have ended up with the right hand side being all squared, thus eliminating the occurrence of the silly mistake. But instead of squaring both sides, I simply took the square root operator from the left to the right hand side of the equation and, in the process, forgot that it should change from square root to square operator on the right hand side.
Please, I was tired and stressed out during the day, and wasn't reasoning straight again. Like you said, one must be very vigilant when solving math.
However let me repost my simplified version of the workings with the error corrected.
Thanks for pointing out the mistake. But then, pls try to be polite instead of being caustic when doing so next time; no one is above mistakes.
Thanks. I am sorry for those words I used. it was out of anger. thanks for making the correction it shows you really know what you are doing. |
Education › Re: Jss3 Essential Mathematics The Textbook Failed It. Can You Get It? by Mrshape(op): 7:54pm On Mar 09, 2021 |
donaytexx1: The correct answer is obviously 7.8
Here is a simplified approach to the problem. I shake my head. You took square root of both side to remove square root. I fear who no fear you o. |
Education › Re: Jss3 Essential Mathematics The Textbook Failed It. Can You Get It? by Mrshape(op): 3:55pm On Mar 09, 2021 |
Kylekent59: My answer is 7.8
This is how I got my answer. Observe the way I squared both side that's how it is supposed to be done. Please learn from it
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Education › Re: Jss3 Essential Mathematics The Textbook Failed It. Can You Get It? by Mrshape(op): 3:41pm On Mar 09, 2021 |
Kylekent59: My answer is 7.8
This is how I got my answer. You killed mathematics, you almost buried it. But thank God some few people can still think on this forum. I will point out your error. |
Education › Re: Jss3 Essential Mathematics The Textbook Failed It. Can You Get It? by Mrshape(op): 9:58pm On Mar 08, 2021 |
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Education › Re: Jss3 Essential Mathematics The Textbook Failed It. Can You Get It? by Mrshape(op): 9:39pm On Mar 08, 2021 |
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Education › Re: Jss3 Essential Mathematics The Textbook Failed It. Can You Get It? by Mrshape(op): 7:58pm On Mar 08, 2021 |
Hashabiah: I got 61.44. What did you get? That's not the answer try again please |
Education › Jss3 Essential Mathematics The Textbook Failed It. Can You Get It? by Mrshape(op): 6:04pm On Mar 08, 2021 |
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Education › Re: This Teacher Did This Wrong Check The Math. Can You Tell Where He Missed It? by Mrshape(op): 10:37pm On Mar 07, 2021 |
Newman20: Student
16 yrs Wao! That's impressive. I will always mention you. |
Education › Re: This Teacher Did This Wrong Check The Math. Can You Tell Where He Missed It? by Mrshape(op): 10:29pm On Mar 07, 2021 |
Newman20: Hehehehehe nice one
Pls make sure to mention me on any maths related thread next time. OK I will add your name to my list. What's your qualification? Are you a teacher? |
Education › Re: This Teacher Did This Wrong Check The Math. Can You Tell Where He Missed It? by Mrshape(op): 10:22pm On Mar 07, 2021 |
Newman20: It is not correct. This is the real solution Yes that was my solution. I told the student to tell the teacher to check is solution again. When you tell schools to pay for staff training in math they will think it is not necessary. This is the result |
Education › Re: This Teacher Did This Wrong Check The Math. Can You Tell Where He Missed It? by Mrshape(op): 7:40pm On Mar 07, 2021 |
Newman20: there is not enough information.
the radius of the sector is not given. We need it to get the base radius of the cone. Nice observation . but I think that is the student fault. Because he he used a radius of 14unit in his solution. So the he might have included radius but the student did not indicate it. Please check is solution assuming he gave a radius of 14 is the solution correct? |
Education › Re: This Is Simple JSS1 Work The Math TextBook & Teacher Failed It. Can You Get i? by Mrshape(op): 11:19am On Mar 07, 2021 |
Lordbinsmar: You are right Sir. Saying that the answer is 1 only is mathematically incorrect and this will confuse the kids more and more. It will also reduce their mathematical aptitude.
Mathematics should open up the mind and not enslave it. Exactly |
Education › Re: This Is Simple JSS1 Work The Math TextBook & Teacher Failed It. Can You Get i? by Mrshape(op): 7:32am On Mar 07, 2021 |
femi4: You will not understand. There is a huge difference between an educator and a mathematician. I m both, you re just one of them Lol. Which do you think I am |
Education › Re: This Is Simple JSS1 Work The Math TextBook & Teacher Failed It. Can You Get i? by Mrshape(op): 7:23am On Mar 07, 2021 |
femi4: You still don't understand the teaching ethics. Your focus is on mathematical knowledge and not knowledge transfer I don't transfer academic poison, If it is too difficult to understand teach them what they can |
Education › Re: This Is Simple JSS1 Work The Math TextBook & Teacher Failed It. Can You Get i? by Mrshape(op): 7:17am On Mar 07, 2021 |
sureteeboy: Yes. x ∈ R; x ≠ 0 Please check the solutions the people saying the answer at that level should be 1. What do can you say about that? |
Education › Re: This Is Simple JSS1 Work The Math TextBook & Teacher Failed It. Can You Get i? by Mrshape(op): 7:15am On Mar 07, 2021 |
femi4: If 2x/3x = 2/3
Now solve x/x = 1/1 = 1
A student at that level will use same approach following the examples. Remember that question is not in isolation. It's part of an exercise. That's how proper teaching is done What you solved is the ratio which is different from the topic. The topic is simple equation. In simple equation the variable must equal to a numerical value at this jss1 stage. You got x/x=1/1=1 Which is 1/1=1 That is 1=1 Who then have the one when you have when x is no longer in existence. 2x/3x=2/3 The students are taught substitution in this topic too. Don't you think with this solution of yours it will confuse the student that is only 1 he can substitute into that equation? Which is wrong. You are looking at this question as a comparison of one quantity to another (ratio, or simplification of fraction) |
Education › Re: This Is Simple JSS1 Work The Math TextBook & Teacher Failed It. Can You Get i? by Mrshape(op): 6:57am On Mar 07, 2021 |
femi4: Even at jss, the answer is still 1. Js1 is a little extension of pry6
The focus is on method of division at that level, that is dividing both numerator and denominator by common factor
Anything beyond that, is outside their syllabus
If I am teaching kids "greater than, less than". Solution to 5-6 is "impossible" and not -1 Can you show me a solution that makes the answer 1. The topic is simple equation. Not simplification of algebraic express. Please show a solution that the answer is 1 |
Education › Re: This Is Simple JSS1 Work The Math TextBook & Teacher Failed It. Can You Get i? by Mrshape(op): 6:50am On Mar 07, 2021 |
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Education › Re: This Is Simple JSS1 Work The Math TextBook & Teacher Failed It. Can You Get i? by Mrshape(op): 6:46am On Mar 07, 2021 |
femi4: For that level , the answer is 1. That textbook was made for pry school. Pls take it easy.
In mathematics, you teach based on level to avoid ambiguity This is jss1 femi can you please show my the solution that makes the answer 1? |
Education › Re: This Is Simple JSS1 Work The Math TextBook & Teacher Failed It. Can You Get i? by Mrshape(op): 1:48am On Mar 07, 2021 |
snowball11: I think "1" is best suited for the answer if you apply indices in solving it.
X/X = 1
X^1-1 = 1
X^0 = 1^0
Equating their powers gives:
X = 1 What will you say about these X/X = 1 X^1-1 = 1 X^0 = 2^0 Or X/X = 1 X^1-1 = 1 X^0 = k^0 That means by comparison x=2 or x=K respectively because a value to the power of zero is a constant. Think about that. The best and only solution is all values except zero |
Education › Re: This Is Simple JSS1 Work The Math TextBook & Teacher Failed It. Can You Get i? by Mrshape(op): 1:26am On Mar 07, 2021 |
etrange: Sir, did you study Mathematics Education or Industrial Mathematics/any other maths related course? If it's the later, then it makes sense why you find this strange. Understanding Mathematics cause one is an engineer is different from knowing the rudiments of teaching in general.
Scoping in education is not as easy as most people think. Yes, it's easy to say, "in primary one, I'll teach plus. In primary two, I'll teach minus. In primary three, I'll teach multiplication". The problem arises when plus has some subsections that that your primary one students won't understand. Your first line of thought would be to leave out those subsections, but it's not always that straightforward. Sometimes, you need to make temporary rules as walls that help you not to deviate from your scope till your students are ready. x/x = 1 is one of those temporary confinements.
There are some rules we give to kids to make things easier for them till they're ready to fully grasp the more complex ones. In English language, we tell them it's wrong to start a sentence with the word "and" or "but" not because it's always wrong but we because we need to shield the them from the complexity of knowing when it's allowed and when it's not. We tell kids that the absolute value of a number is that number with a positive sign. So the absolute value of -10 is 10. But is a number's distance from zero on the number line always equal to that number with a positive sign? Again, this is just to introduce them to the concept. There are many others, even in secondary schools. Students always outgrow them at certain levels. But they help to keep things in order.
The question here is, why did your student pick 2 as the answer? Did he/she pick two cause he knows any number not equal to zero would be correct or cause he simply forgot what the teacher said in class? If he forgot and the teacher doesn't fail him, he'll probably think the answer is always 2 and therefore wouldn't be on the same page as his fellow students when it's time to transition into a higher level.
#MyOpinion I have done causes in Education. I can say confidently I am a qualified and certified teacher. To the issue raised why my student said the answer is 2 is because 2/2 is equals to 1. That is a rule they where taught in open sentence one how to check the accuracy of the solution they get to an equation. Mathematics is very delicate teachers should not teach wrong things. That equation is easy to explain to the children that x can be any number but not zero. I can't see a logical reason why she should chose 1 as the answer. Can you u? If you can, may I learn from you? |
Education › Re: This Is Simple JSS1 Work The Math TextBook & Teacher Failed It. Can You Get i? by Mrshape(op): 1:06am On Mar 07, 2021 |
Valkan: No but actually because of this 3×3=3³ and 3÷3=1
2×2=2² and 2÷2=1
1×1=1² and 1÷1=1
X×X=X² and X÷X=1 That did not prove anything |