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souldust: @blyss thats what i'm talking about! You people always have something to do there so that "At the mention of the name of black americans, every heart would fright and every mouth would confess that crime is not far away". Lol.Since Nigerians are not xenophobic, then why is HIV a problem in that little staffed country? In terms of Nigeria's version of HIV analysis is that, the disease is only associated to those who appear to be xenophobic, particularly SA. Nigerians are living in denial and majority of them do not go for an HIV routine test, thus this makes their stats so unreliable. Hence, the whole of Nigeria is under a threat of HIV time bomb. We South Africans are not ashamed of having such a high stats because we do not fear to go for routine tests, unlike others who are scared to the death to go for just a simple blood test. We have learnt to live with this condition and we are now appearing victorious in the fight against HIV/AIDS, because the stats are now diminishing. Many countries including Nigeria will learn from us about the management of the disease. The clock is ticking, tick tock, tick tock you better rush fro that stool and take your test today coz we don't know when was the last time you went for those tests. Some of you come here in SA already carrying the virus. How many Nigerians are on an ARV treatment in SA? |
souldust: @msauza, i cant help you and i am so sorry about that. I told you we have local fabric dating back to the 11th century and that we developed that all by ourselves and instead of you to go and do a bit of research which is what modern people do, you decided to reject my claim as true.Oh yes, I love my BA certificate very much and regard it as superior by having been acquired from an internationally recognised and reputable institution of higher learning which does not have any match whatsoever in Nigeria. I told you that this discussion is way above the level of your understanding and thus, in this respect I challenge the entire academia of Nigeria at large in this subject. Anthropology is a universal study matter and the South Africa's version is no different from others out there what differs only is the method of delivery. It is in this instance that I challenge any graduate in Anthropology to quote for me from any reliable academic source that will ever substantiate that a cloth was indeed discovered in Sub-Saharan Africa dating back to the 11th century. Even though I have not majored in Anthropology, I have studied it from the first and second years of study as selective or ancillary as I had a passion about learning the history and culture of other nations. All the Anthropologist study matters from undergraduate to postgraduate have no reliable research about the early development of cloth in sub-Saharan Africa. For confirmation sake, visit the nearest university and ask professors of the discipline of Anthropology about what I have just said. Anthropologists, however they believe that cloth was one of the main article of exchange during the slave trade era in West Africa. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_clothing_and_textiles |
Henry120: @Syndergp, you purposely left out the fact that the reason SA army are all in their barracks, unlike the army in nigeria who are in the streets, is because SA has a large private security industry, totalling over 400, 000 security personnel. Well above the army and police in number combined. heavily armed with semi-automatic weapons and hand guns and ballistic vests. That is a huge number. In nigeria we do not have armed private security firms/ contractors.Private security does not provide protection to the members of the public, it only provide those services to companies and individuals who can afford to pay in unit for their services rendered. It is the duty of the democratic governments to provide security free of charge to members of the public by policing and individuals/companies who seek extra security should hire private security firm thereof. That is just a lousy excuse and Nigeria as democracy should learn to prioritise policing instead of military to deal with crime. |
sheyie2007: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_textilesYou are indeed suffering from a mind of rat. Look into a much bigger picture and understand where it first started. Anthropology and Archaeology suggest that life started in Africa where archaic humans inhabited in variety of homos, ie, Homo heidelbergensis, Homo Rhodesiensis, and Homo neanderthalensis (The bushmen, Saartjie Bartman) and as the climate was certainly favourable, it was no use to cover the whole part of their bodies, so the idea thereof was not part of their mental capabilities. Modern humans (Homo sapiens sapiens) are theorized to have evolved from archaic humans and appear from about 200,000 years ago and if somehow you have studied Anthropology you should have passed this lesson in your first year of University study. Just before the onslaught of the great plate techtonics hit on Gondwanaland and separated the earth as we know it today, it is theorized that the great exodus of homo sapiens to different parts of the earth with different climate might have taken place. Soon, those who found themselves in colder places saw the need of covering their bodies from coldness and taking into account that "homo sapiens" were not fully developed modern humans, they soon started to lose concentration of melanin (skin pigmentation) in their skins to acclimatise to the weather. It is suggested that this group started with developments as they were living under harsh climatic conditions of falling snow and saw the need of building themselves shelters, building ships to cross the waters and so on. |
sheyie2007: Just read the history http://www.mongabay.com/reference/country_studies/nigeria/HISTORY.htmlLet history speak for itself. Well, that's a well known fact that Africans moulded and shaped iron into bow and arrows, spears and open fire pots. That phenomena is evident in the history of Bushmen, the khoisan and the hottentots who were regarded as the first people. They have been in existence long before any tribe in Nigeria can ever come into existence. Speaking of savana people, the greatest slave traders of all. Who exchanged their own for a piece of cloth and facilitated for a process of mercantile slavery and further traded their trophy to the natives for the exchange of more slaves. My dear friend Nigeria never discovered fabric in their entire history, no matter how hard you will try to convince me, it will remain a propaganda before the eyes of many. If Nigeria discovered fabrics millennia ago, then why are they still importing a lot of wool, polyester, nylon and acrylic even to date? The history of white people in Africa dates back in 1400 before the actual colonisation and if you want to read more click below; http://www.mongabay.com/history/nigeria/nigeria-european_slave_trade_in_west_africa.html |
Where does this imprint in west African fabrics come from. Does it come from Europe? I challenge anyone of you who has studied anthropology. http://mobile.slate.com/articles/arts/design/2012/03/african_fabric_where_do_tribal_prints_really_come_from_.html |
gst101: @msauza. Nigeria is home to some of the most civilized people of precolonial Africa. The english did not meet the yoruba and hausa man naked. The aso oke among yoruba dates back to the 11th century. Look up the soap stone images of esie on google and you will find out an evidence of proper dress among the yoruba. Those images were excavated in the 14 or 15 century. Cant remember when exactly. Thats way before colonization.Listening is a skill, nobody ever said colonists when they first arrive in Africa they found the natives na*ked. Re-read my statement above again, there is no a single sentence that would ever confirm and support your accusations. It took modern technology to turn cotton, nilon, acrylic, wool, etc into a fabric. Thus, there is no nation in Africa that had that privilege. Animal skins were our forbears everyday clothing until the advent of civilisation. |
andrewza: The SANDF is allowed to lend assestent to any goverment department so it not only in riots or other major civil actions but floods, anti poaching, border patrol extra or even building bridges in rural areas. The thing is though solders should never do poliece work even when solder deploy with cops they only there to bolster man power and a cop is all ways near at hand.Yes I agree with you my countryman, those are duties and responsibilities of our Armies as prescribed and provided by the Defence Act of parliament, particularly border patrol. Besides, Soldiers should not be seen in our neighbourhood (civilians), remember in the case of Marikana where Zuma unleashed military to stabilise riots in that area, it then became a big issue as opposition parties were trying to score cheap political points by accusing Zuma of mishandling the Army. |
sheyie2007: seriously! when I search south African police I get - "view at your own discretion" posting all of it here would be a waste of time cuz it won't fit a page..Democracy does not allow soldiers to go around harassing citizens, if then it was the police, it wud have been better. Democracy limits powers of military within the confines of their bases. It is only during times of riots where presidents of democratic states will unleash military to stabilise the situation. |
gst101: it makes me laugh when i hear SAs say they cannot wear a Naija attire but they can put on their leopard skins like zuma does.Lol!!! You will take long to understand SA culture. We only wear that in special occasion such as in heritage day. We do not go around people, shopping around wearing those skins. We sometimes have to commemorate our forebears and thats why we have a heritage day as a holiday in every 28th of September in South Africa. We have our own culture chief, thus we do not go around adopting foreign cultures. We promote ours first. Every tribe in SA including Boers have their own cultural attire, that's why sometimes you mistaken it to be of Nigerian origin. Tswanas, Sothos, Pedis, Xhosas, Tsongas, Swatis, Ndebeles, Vendas, Zulus, English and Afrikaans (Voortrekers) have all their cultural or traditional attires, but we do not wear them everyday like Nigerians. By the way Zuma is seen there wearing Zulus impis or warrior dress similar to the one in Shaka Zulu's era when fabrics were not yet discovered in Africa. Surely Nigerians were also wearing something similar at that time, because fabrics were discovered during the era of colonisation in Africa. White people when they arrived in Africa found us all wearing such skin and Nigerians are not exception. |
agaugust: football or soccer is the greatest sport in the whole world, and nigeira is always doing great in the most important things on earth, that is why we are more in the world news than south africa .Aguagust, you sound so childish, by the way how old are you? Countries do not decide on their own where must they be deployed. Countries are members of regional communities and are restricted to the confines of their region. Countries are not supposed to trespass to other regions without proper protocol. Thus, I do not understand your claim regarding SA choosing wars of low intensity as compared to Nigeria who go for big war. Rambos are not wanted in peace keeping missions and nobody is going to war, the intention is to stabilise the country and not to play Rambo style of rescue missions. DRC was as well a mammoth task to deal with, taking into account its land mass and terrain. The DRC, a francophone and richest country in Africa was in the news everywhere, but South Africa could not waste any valuable time to stabilise peace in that once Mobutu Seseko's country. I feel so proud for having been one of those privileged soldiers to have taken part in that mission years later after I joined the army in 2003. I then deployed to the DRC in Oct 2004 in Goma, near Rwanda and separated by Tanganyika lake with Burundi where rebels used to terrorise villagers by killing as well as ra*ping women and children. I must accept it was not an easy task as we had to travel the whole of eastern Congo, from Kindu, Beni, Bunya to kisanganyi. I resigned immediately on my return to further my studies. |
Capnd143: [b]i refused to comment Msauza because of the respect, i have 4 you, but your comments above compelled me to! Ok . .lets go on a close analysis. NIgeria has practised democracy for only 13years, mainly due to military rule, with it gargantuos muslim population, it still strives to maintain democracy,notwithstanding widespread oppositions from "acclaimed" religion of peace codenamed "islam". Now which islamic country in the whole world, can say such of their govt modus operandus,just mention 1.Nobody had ever denied that Nigeria is a democracy. Hence, is Nigeria a stable democracy or so to say a modern democracy? I understand that some few rights have been enshrined in the Nigerian constitution beside the right to education, housing, to strike and picket and the right to form political party. Many people understand democracy as merely a system of government by the people and do not comprehend the system in much finer details. The reason why I have claimed that Nigeria is unstable democracy stems from that country's deep political and religious tension. It is no secret that Muslims in Nigeria are unhappy and feel oppressed by what they call anti-Muslim laws. Islam does not support right to life which is found in Sec4 article 33 of Nigeria's constitution. Muslims in Nigeria wants to live like other Muslims in Islamic countries under sharia law, that's why they terrorise Christians by burning their churches and bombing public structures by home made petrol bombs. It is these incidents that distabilises and threatens the democracy in Nigeria since Muslim community perceive it as biased and serving interests of only Christians. |
gst101: no our laws are not backward. They are just not stupid.Democracy is an egalitarian system in which everyone is entitled to practice their rights freely without anyone including the government encroaching upon their rights. In Nigeria women are still impeded to exercise their full rights as compared to their male counterparts who are regarded as superior in decision making. Same sex marriages is still a controversial issue in Nigeria where those who are strongly defending tradition stand opposed to it. Stoning to death is still a widespread practice and remedial action against promiscuous women in Northern Part of Nigeria majority of whom have not successfully accepted democracy and instead are calling for Sharia law to take over the whole of Nigeria. The most important factor in democracy is when is fully and not partially accepted by those in which it applies. Democracy has been implemented in Nigeria, but about 50% of citizens do not believe in absolute freedom of person, rather believe that a person should be controlled with rules and principles that support religions and traditions. Democracy does not support any religion and traditions, it anchors methods of freedom of person and limits such freedom through whenever it extents to trampling upon rights of other individuals. Same sex marriages does not encroach upon anybody's right, thus the reason why it has been legalised in modern democracies. Legalisation of abortions as well does not encroach upon anybody's right. |
sheyie2007: LOL..lie? I'll never take any of your response serious cuz you've not been to Nigeria.. and I'm exposed that you are in all measures...Hello, I live in a developed city better than any city in Nigeria. I am surrounded by people of different cultures, the so called rainbow nation every time I step out of the door. I don't fly to Europe or America if I want to see white people, Chinese, Indian, Italian, Greek, Jew, German, Portuguese, American they are just there on my neighbourhood. I don't see black everywhere I go and that suffice to make me more privileged and exposed than you. |
snydergp: Victims of what because u'll only be stigmatized and labeled if the majority of ur immigrants don't comment crimes wherever they are.So just imagine me wearing Nigerian attire, so to be mistaken as a Nigerian drug lord. Being Nigerian is not the symbol of pride across the world. In airports everywhere, especially in Europe and America you will be labelled or suspected as terrorist linked to Boko Haram or Al-Qaeda network and be indecently searched all over the place. |
gst101: why dont you stop this cowardice and be thankful to pst chris.That is the truth my friend. Our nation was all fine until all nations of the world particularly Africa came to flock here and contaminate contaminate us and thereafter go and write on various social networks to tell the whole world of how sick are we. By the way what is pst Chris? |
sheyie2007: total bulls#it, I've been to your country, young man... I've seen south Africans wear our native attires on Sundays to church... what tha hell is your point? I even know some Nigerian tailors making doe down thereYou lie, South Africans are more into fashion than traditional wear. Speaking of young men wearing Nigerian attire is just a claim and unfounded. I am a South African, living in Jozi and dont come and tell me lies about my country and its people. We are fascinated by expensive designer labels, swagg bra. The likes of Aigner, Abiter, cavellas, KG, Lacoste, DMD, Polos, Louis Veitton, Murratti, Dolce and Gabana, Versage, Emporio Armani, etc is what we wear not some nameless nonsense that will make us look like chameleons and Christmas trees. Worst of it all no women will even want to date you to cinemas or restaurants as the whole world will be laughing after you. Ask your brothers who reside in South Africa, if they are honest they will advice you that the moment you touch SA you must forget about all those apadas. Don't worry you have not yet been exposed to that and since our clothing stores now make their way to Nigeria in numbers you will soon be introduced to some of this labels. |
gst101: he does know the meal and he knows the dresses otherwise he wouldnt have said it in his previous posts that "people will laugh at him should he wear those funy dresses"Ask your fellow Nigerians who reside in SA. They wear like us and leave all those apadas back home. In SA you will look funny if you are seen in public wearing those Nigerian attire. |
agaugust:There is no African country that has no level of illiteracy. It is mostly this group that become victims of this evil foreign traditional practitioners in SA. Without being xenophobic, our new democratic dispensation has brought us many problems through the influx of many foreigners in our neighbourhood. Before ANC came into power our nation was a healthy nation in Africa, free from Ebola, sickle cell disease, Herpetitus B, Drugs and HIV, because our borders were protected day and night. HIV was something very foreign and could only be heard about over radios and televisions as something foreign. Ever since then we have seen the influx of foreign pastors and traditional doctors of African origin, majority of whom are Nigerians claiming to cure AIDS, promoting ritual killings and molesting of babies. This is why many South Africans think that Apartheid SA was much better than democratic South Africa as they were free from many sicknesses. |
@ gst101, the reason why I seem to know more about agbadas. Fufu , gari and Yam is because am a graduate. I have also studied Ancient history and African Anthropology as an ancillary and that is where I came across studies relating to Nigeria and its cultures. There are three major tribal groups in Nigeria, ie, Igbos, Hausas and Yorubas ( Have their roots in Israel) and even though I have not studied those subjects extensively because they were not my area of major focus, I have also had the opportunity to learn about their cuisine of which many I have never seen with my naked eyes. I was more privileged to have been the only person, so to say South African other than foreigners in my class to have known cassava before, because during then I had recently been to the DRC through peace keeping mission before I tendered my resignation to further my studies. An average South African who has never gone through these studies will never tell you a thing about Nigeria or any African country for that matter. Ever since I was born, I have never seen Yam in SA before and have never tasted it. |
gst101: and you tell me Nollywood isnt colonizing SA. There is absolutely no SA culture any where in nigeria or other parts of Africa.This is not about your so called Nollywood. Click below you will find collection of evidence from various sites of this foreign traditional doctors who have flooded SA. http://www.google.com/search?client=ms-rim&hl=en&q=South%20African%20spell%20casters&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&channel=browser |
gst101: mbeki mentored OBJ? I just cant laugh. Is it the same mbeki we house here all through you strugle to be seen as humans? My dear go and sleep. I can see you are a "born free" no wonder you dont even know your history.It was then that Obasanjo started to take his lessons from the best. Obasanjo frequented ANC's offices in Nigeria headed by Mbeki to receive his lessons from time to time about revolutionary politics. Believe it or not, it actually happened. |
agaugust:I repeat, this myth was spread by foreign traditional doctors. South Africans have the tendencies of believing whatever crab that comes out of the mouth of these evil foreign sangomas. They put their posters everywhere in the SA cities claiming to help people win court cases; heal incurable diseases; send tekoloshes to steal money for you in the bank; help you to win lottery; increase the size of your manhood; bring back lost love; tie and hypnotise you lover not to cheat you; give spinsters husbands; help you to punish those who owe you money and do not want to return it; claiming to do all sort of things that are impossible. Most South Africans have this fallacious believe that Nigerians are powerful with Voodoo casting, since this religion started in West Africa and can harm you from the distance using black magic. Those who are diseased are taken for a ride by being robbed large amount of cash and be send to prison by being told that their sicknesses will disappear should they sleep with a young virgin. |
gst101: @ SAs, who told you nigeria isnt a developed democracy? What is the def of democracy? In it, you will find govt of the people. We have had election results cancelled in nigeria and incumbents replaced. We have had incumbents loose in an open election. All of that signify a good democracy.Democracy can be best described in simple terms as the government by the people. For democracy to be progressive it has to be accepted by all the people, but the problem is that those who embrace Islam feel that democracy is against their religious principles because they do not simply believe that men should live under such freedom. Just imagine when you will have to legalise same sex marriages and afford women 50/50 powers it will not go well with those who embrace Islam. The problem is Muslim constitute almost over 40% of Nigeria's population. |
gst101: talking garbage!Whether you like it or not, if you want to learn more about revolutionary politics you will have to be flawn here in SA to attend political school where you will be moulded into a powerful revolutionary politician. Just ask obasanjo about Mbeki's mentorship. |
gst101: hahaha. You blame others for your problems. The last time i cheked, it is only coward that do that.Unless you are a pig or unhygienic, everytime you make love you have to have a shower thereafter. Anyway, I didn't know that Nigerians are that filthy that they do not have a bath after making love. After all, Zuma is an ordinary human being with feelings just like anybody else and was just making love like any other man and had a shower thereafter. |
gst101: my dear, thats what i am saying. Why should the internal problem of a party becom national issue? It goes to show you are a one party stat! Such a thing cannot happen in nigeria. One party has a problem and it becomes a national issue So that your prssident is sacked by a more powerful man? And you call that democracy? And you want to compare your democracy with ours where the powerful OBJ couldnt have his way with his third term agenda.Tell me what do you know about National democratic revolution? You Nigerians know nothing about multi party system other than military rule system. Majority of Nigerians are not revolutionaries, other than OBJ who was mentored by Mr TM about revolutionary politics. |
agaugust: look well before you post comment andrewza, nigerian accurate statistic from same source is compared to south african in point number 5 above in my comment posted, and we nigerian's do NOT r.ape innocent new born babiesDo you know why rape of small children is going on and on is because of you foreigners who pose as fake traditional doctors and lie to our people that sleeping with a virgin especially small children cures AIDS. You have corrupted our people and have met many of such clients who claim to have been misled by foreign traditional and spell casters who professed themselves to have powers to cure AIDS. |
agaugust: msauza and andrewza, i assume that you are both adults and wise enough to know that there is crime in every country of the world and not only nigeria. i dont want to waste my time to reply you guys for the childish comments you posted above, i dont want to look like a little boy by writing too much answer for such a meaningless comments you both posted. here is a few lines to show you the low level of wisdom in your post.From the way you reason your facts, I doubt if you have attended any university education. Problems in Nigeria cannot be equated or neither be classified as crime, they are way beyond that category and can only be described as terrorists activities. |
agaugust: Msauza you were born with only half brain from the womb, that's why you can post the comment above ]Accuse me with facts. This is one essay we wrote in university on the module "Comparative African Politics" when we had to analyse as to whether Nigeria is a stable or unstable democracy. Nigeria has been struggling ever since it gained independence from Britain. That country had been under military rule for many years and marred with religious tension between Christians and Muslims where even today the status quo remain unchanged. http://bti2006.bertelsmann-transformation-index.de/67.0.html?L=0 And its even in the news below; http://mobile.saharareporters.com/article/why-democracy-and-good-governance-not-working-nigeriaafrica-abdulrazaq-o-hamzat |
cap28: We are very familiar with the way nigeria does business and fairness is never part of the equation - you only need to read about how shell bp operates in nigeria from some of the wikileaks information and you will understand. To say that the nigerian govt is fighting the oil companies is one of the biggest jokes of all time do you mean shell bp that owns and runs nigeria and owns all of nigeria's corrupt politicians ?In terms of the constitution of the RSA, official languages did not gain their status based on their African origin. They have been meticulously selected based upon groups of people or tribes which reside in South Africa irrespective of their origin. Afrikaans is derived from Dutch and is widely spoken by over 18 million people in South Africa, hence, we cannot deny the fact that many families in South Africa speak Afrikaans, thus needed to be officiated. This apply to English as well which is the medium of communication in SA and besides its native speakers, it is spoken by majority of SA citizen. Even though Portuguese, khoi khoi and San have not yet been declared official languages in SA, our constitution does not ignore it altogether and recognises it as the language that is widely spoken by minority groups in SA. |
llbhuds: U mean d whitesWhat do you mean when you say is not among the variety of English language? I am lost. |
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