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uzzyfire:Silly stereotype |
uzzyfire:Polio is as rampant as flu. Polio!!!! In the 21 st century. |
BedLam:Iphones are overrated IMO. Most kenyans who own one are either well heeled and / or persons seeking status symbol. Even Mac pros belong to such folk. They are weak and not sturdy. Also accessories are not convenient stocked at shops. Android and windows based smartphones and laptops are king. |
BedLam:Yes The wild has no mercy. Theres a saying we have here.Everyday in the wild a lion wakes up knowing it will have to run fast enough to catch an antelope, or it will starve to death. And every antelope will wake up knowing that if it cant run fast enough it will end up as a lions dinner. A metaphor for life: Oga, which animal are you, Lion or antelope? |
BedLam:i dont know, i think i see fried green banana known as matoke. Either that or its fish. i also see fruit salad, cucumber Was this breakfast? |
GERALD710:Boss, the kenyan dairy industry is the largest. It has grown by leaps and bounds, we will have to be updating geography text books every year. The Zimbabwe dairy industry is in the ICU thanks to the sudden influx of mugabeism. |
fanficgirl:Somalis even discriminate against other muslims by building somali only mosques! I have a Swahili muslim friend who told me once that they give you the eye if you happen to wander into their mosque and you dont look somali. Also most other muslims dont want to be associated with pirate money ,so they keep away. Once when in Uganda, i heard ugandan muslims bitterly complaining about the anti social mannerisms of somalis like petty racial discrimination and chewing of khat. |
fanficgirl:Somalis are epic exaggerators. Mostly petty traders, money changers. They dont produce much, they are the specialists in bazaar economics. Somalis are divided into 4 countries, remember. |
naijalander:You see, kenyan economy does not depend on one commodity after another in a cycle that says we move from this to that to the other. That thinking is for Gabon, Nigeria, Angola which are oil fixated and derive the vast majority of govt revenue from oil and gas. See what your friend in travel section affirmed, that he was amazed kenyans have done all thus without oyel but tea and flowers. The shining new baby in the agric sector is the milk sector. The fishing industry is undergoing a mini revolution too. There is also a new attempt by various governors to develop their competitive advantage. Do you know for example the efforts Kisii county is doing to make it a center for medical tourism? Joho is trying to modernise fishing in Mombasa. Kiyana, dont stick in Nairobi and say you know kenya inside out. Me , a living kenyan is always discovering new things about my country. Things are never static and changes and new additions all over the place. You, the foreigner in our midst should also do the same and update. Kenya is not the simplistic narrative you want to weave. |
Ednite:Habeshas drink coffee like water. Sunday church garments is all white. They cannot survive without injera. They have very many complicated rules about food. I have experienced Ethiopian culture before. |
naijalander:I knew you would have a hard time proving yourself, its expected. This "empire" of Uhuru's that you deride without so much of as a smirk is actually just the largest cog in an industry that employs hundreds of kenyans. In fact, the dairy industry of kenya is Africa's largest. Our dairy herd is the largest in africa. And it gets more and more sophisticated by the year. In fact, Nigeria has alot to learn from us about how to turn the humble cow into a money spinner. The industry is based on spreading the tools of production and ownership to as many small holders as possible. That is, taking care of the average joe and the big fish equally as well. Not the nigerian model of business which celebrates big man dominating a field totally and crushing middleguys and smallguys. How else did the Dangotes and Adenugas acquire their immense wealth if not for govt patronage and exclusive access or monopoly to essential services and commodities. Or you think i dont study these guys. In terms of how this "sheet" empire called the milk business has grown in kenya since the shambolic destruction it had under the Moi years, its nothing short of miraculous. I have personally put an investment to it and i can confidently tell you 1 cow can save a poor farmer from hunger, 3 cows a steady family income, 6 cows can send his 4 kids all the way to university and 15 cows can fetch him a good clean car every 6 months if he so wishes. Sheath your sword boy, and ask your senior pavore9 who is nairaland agriculture minister to help you understand some of these things much better. Kapish? |
Hati13:Okay. I see,not enough resources. But maybe its also the zeal that was lacking. Let me give you an example. The spread of Islam from Arabia into the rest of the middle east and north africa. The spread was accompanied by expansion of trading links with new territories. Those early jihad wars were closely linked to the desire to expand trading empires and create new ones. Merchants from arabia followed closely in the wake of the conquering hordes. Conquered territories enjoyed favorable terms of commerce and social equality if they embraced islam. Merchants in conquerd territories enjoyed full benefits and privileges if they embraced islam. Hence the wealthy and ruling classes were always amongst the first to willingly convert. It was necessary to establish common rules of commerce to avoid wars, because these were often causes of wars,even today. In ancient times each kingdom had its own standards,coins,weight measures and so on , such that it was difficult to either barter or exchange cash. Even services were not standard. Islam arrival changed all that by providing uniformity or at least some sanity in trade and commercial relations between different cities. A gold coin in Makkah was a gold coin in Cairo or Damascus. I have a theory that the Axumites barely or rarely or did very little trade with other african nations. Perhaps more with Yemen and other mideastern entities. I dont know about trade with Nubia/Meroe, maybe you can enlighten us. They might have been christians but their cultural, trading and social orientation was to the middle east/north africa since pre islamic times. If there was little trading links with the rest of africa, there was little chance that the spread of ideas such as religion might have taken place. Remember how the ancient rulers of ancient Ghana,Songhai and other sahelian west african empires embraced islam? They traded alot with the Almoravids in the Maghreb and also with Egypt, and those traders from North Africa brought islam with them. So maybe I imight ask you:did ancient Axum or even later Abyssinia , do any trade and commerce with any other sub saharan african entity or peoples? |
Maduawuchukwu:I hope you do realise that is a very loaded statement. In essence, some parts are more "nigerian" than others,abi? |
naijalander:You know, you make all these a$inine statements , and you cant even back it up? BTW ,how old are you? |
Nowenuse:See what am saying? You just blurt out a statement Nowenuse: The current President of Nigeria is a fulani. This tribe has produced up to 3 presidents of Nigeria. Fulani gida (town fulanis) are different from Fulani bororo. Never generalize them. Although they had the same ancestors but they have evolved differently for a long time. So, if you are talking about fulani bororo, fine, masais may be more literate than them, just that their culture is somewhat more civilized than the masais who still drink raw animal blood and play nakedd. Fulani mbororo have a more beautiful and advanced culture than the masais and many fulani mbororo practice islam, hence acquire islamic education and even go for Hajj in Mecca.See what am saying? You just blurt out a statement Nowenuse:See what am saying? You just blurt out a statement, and assign a value to it beauty.You use your standard as the standard. Even worse, you want us to accept it without question. Clearly , you view cultures in hierarchy. What does that make you. You should write a book one day and call it "My Struggle". I wonder what its translation in german would be. Off to Google Translate. |
TayserMahiri:Exactly. Did you know ,for example, that in China , they fry everything with Lard(pig fat). You want to refry your chips- Lard. You want to eat fried sweets - Lard. Wanna fry eggs - Lard. Chinese people and their love affair with pigs. No wonder Islam had a hard time penetrating there. Nightmarish scenario for a muslim. |
Hati13:Hati13, ok. I get your point but all am asking is not still answered. Those Axum early christians, why did they not send missionaries deep into africa. They had all the time between the 4th century till the arrival of European missionaries in 19 th century.That is almost 15 centuries. Why did they not evangelize other africans? I have read some history about how the Late Roman Empire used to forcibly evangelize native German tribes, and how these Germans also forcibly evangelized other european tribes in baltic countries. |
TayserMahiri:actually ended well. sina roho ya chuma. |
Maduawuchukwu:I have failed to understand all these years how a terrorist organization can just walk into Nigeria, set up HQs complete with a command and a fighting force, impose laws on the people and take over judicial functions from the judiciary, judge peoples "crimes" , waltz around like they own heaven, take a serious swath of territory larger than most small countries, and even declare allegiance to their fellow idiots in Syria/Iraq. I can never understand this. In my opinion that is loss of territorial sovereignty. That can never happen in present day Kenya. |
Ednite:when i was 19 yrs old and a fresher at universty. also in touch via social media. both married now |
TayserMahiri:Tulianza mapema jo. A spot never changes its leopard. |
Ednite:hehehe at a young age i took a very serious interest in an ethiopian girl called Edna. Yes,Edna!!! Until then i didn't even know ethiopians had names like Edna. They even had Dorcas! This was way back in the 90s, she emigrated to America. Her family was very nice to me. I used to frequent a cousin of mines place in hurlingham area of Nairobi.And he lived right next to Yaya center which was obe of the first big malls in kenya. There is a road there called Menelik Road, and as you may guess, it was occupied by alot of Ethiopians. It is called little Addis. But hee brothers and other male ethiopians never liked it. I have seen alot of things in life, mehn! |
Hati13:Okay, i should put my question again. You see as a christian man myself, i believe that the command to spread the good word must and should have been practiced by early ethiopian christians. I think you guys were the first nation after the roman emperor constantine to embrace christian faith as state religion. Why did it not spread south to kenya and somalia, east to sudan and beyond? Well, excuse my small error about sudan because i know the nubians were once christian. This has been a great mystery to me. Did they see christianity as their folk religion? Did other african tribes/nations see it as a folk religion? The following verses in bible teach us to spread the word. Mark 16:15 NKJV “And He said to them, ‘Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature.'” Matthew 24:14 NKJV “And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.” Psalms 96:3 NKJV “Declare His glory among the nations, His wonders among all peoples.” Revelation 14:6-7 NKJV “Then I saw another angel flying in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach to those who dwell on the earth—to every nation, tribe, tongue, and people— saying with a loud voice, ‘Fear God and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment has come; and worship Him who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water.'” Matthew 28:19-20 NKJV “Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” You may read the verses in your local language if you prefer. |
Ednite:Yes, if only that were so, but this can neeever happen in kenya again. It used to happen during the kenyatta and moi errors ,wherby there used to be systemic and systematic neglect, subjugation and marginalisation of certain region and groups.. I would advise you to remember that it is wrong.Injustice anywhere is injustice everywhere. Ednite, why do you think there is so little trade between Ethiopia and Kenya? Very little trade/ interaction. I will also tell you special secret i have from my early teen years, about an ethiopian girl. |
Nowenuse:LOLEST! Since when did you assign yourself to the role of The Grand High Poo Bah of "Civilization"? Why do you go around throwing terms and assigning labels to people? Its seems to me that to you, difference equals problem and problem equals danger and danger equals elimination. Do you see where your faulty math takes you? And also, why do you presume that its the government role to dictate the 'culture' people follow? Any govt ,aywhere? And do you have any inkling about how these people you have arrogantly labelled 'uncivilized' feel in their own skin ? Don't you think they have evolved social structures, dressing, cuisine and all other elements of culture to suit themselves? And FYI as someone pointed out its no biggie finding supremely educated maasais and the more home grounded ones sharing the same platform? This latter point,egalitarian relations, is something i admire about maasais the most, they dont have rigid unbending social castes common to Nigerian cultures. Oh yes,the culture section is familiar to me, you'd be shocked how I can tell apart cultures and costumes from Edo to yoruba to hausa etc. |
Ednite:I heard there is a systematic genocide against them organised by govt and perpetrated by militia composed of people from highland tribes. And also the govt has colluded with foreign corporations to force them off their ancestral lands to grow grain for western markets. In addition, there is an attempt at forced conversions into ethiopian orthodox church. And needless to say, there is widespread documentation and evidence of rape as a weapon of war. Not good, id say . Not good at all. We in kenya are like a large house with many families and children but one father.It follows that we will look different. Looking different is not a crime, its just evidence of Gods impossible genius and presence.Somalis, kikuyus,luos, luhyas, kambas, kiisis merus, maasais, kalenjins, mijikendas, taitas, embus, tharakas, samburus.....very different in looks ,character and temperamnet, but we dont like to systematically destroy any group because they are "different". Its just plain wrong. . |
fanficgirl:here you are : https://www.nairaland.com/2437226/lets-learn-swahili |
Ednite:Ednite, i have been hearing very many sad tales for so many years about how ethiopia treats its own Gambela people.Why is this? |
fanficgirl:i suppose its the same way many of you nigerians on this thread have this notion that all kenyans are maasais. They are one of the tribes of kenya, and i make no apologies for coming from a less photogenic people. I can regale you with tales of how many foreign visitors to kenya come with the poster image they saw on a tourist brochure ,only to meet an entirely different,modern and savvy everyday kenyan.It comes as a shock to them. I also observe the same thing with other Africans who live in our midst who come thinking the only peeps in kenya are maasai only to meet a country whose people are very progressive. In fact, am sure you as an african should understand that coming from a country with many ethnic nations as must our ethiopian neighbour. |
Hati13:So thats Oromia basically. |
BedLam:I think you meant to say tea and flowers. The economy of kenya is a mixed one. No single sector takes the lions share, so its pretty much like a quilt. Agro based industries, tourism, engineering and construction, financials, manufacturing,shipping and related services, aviation, remittances from abroad etc etc all chipping in to the exchequer. Sadly until only 5 or so years ago we never had oil. Little in the way of minerals too. Oga, please remember the food part. When you get there post visuals of your breakfast lunch etc. In the middle of the Mara are some of the most exclusive and outrageously expensive hotels, camps and resorts. Its estimated that the park generates at least 100 million $ in revenue every year. It was once the source of a tussle between central govt and Narok county govt. For those who watch Nat Geo, you better know those animals bring in serious dollars to our economy. Maybe your govt can send a delegation to understudy us to see how they can develop Yankari for example. We are saddened by how nigerians slaughter wildlife willy nilly as I witness here in nairaland all the time. |


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