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Culture › Re: . by MtuMsuper: 11:59am On Apr 23, 2017
Hati13:
Ok Afobear, I would like to tell you about the legend of Prester John of Indies.

The Legend of Prester John of Indies

This legend was developed by the Christian Europeans during the time of the crusade in the mid 12th century, when the European Christians were defeated by the Muslim forces in the Holy Land. The legend was about the existence of an extremely wealthy and powerful Christian King somewhere in the East. The objective of creating the legend was to reinforce the religious moral of the European Christians. It promised that a fabulously rich and strong Christian King known as the Prester John of the Indies was marching from India to the Middle East in support of his fellow Christians and fight against the Muslims. For this he invited the kings of Christian Europe to join in his mission. As a result, the European Christian states hoped to form an alliance with the powerful king against Islam. However, they didn't know the where about of the kingdom ruled by the Prester John.

Beginning from the 14th century onwards, however, the country of Prester John came to be identified with the medieval highland Christian kingdom of Ethiopia. There were many reasons for them to believe that the kingdom was found in Ethiopia.

Therefore, some European monarchs began to communicate with this Christian state through letters. For instance, in 1400 King Henry IV of England wrote a letter to the Christian king addressing him as Prester John. Moreover, the Portuguese, the Christian superpower of the world, continued to search for the country of Prester John and before the end of the 15th century they succeeded to send a delegation to Ethiopia in 1494.

Before the Europeans came to know about the Christian kingdom, the Christian kingdom of Ethiopia had made serious of attempts to establish contact with them. But these attempts were always frustrated by the Egyptian sultans who didn't want to see the rise of a Christian power in the Horn of Africa.

If you want, I can tell you about Emperor Menelik II expansion to the south of Abyssinia in the late 19th century to create modern day Ethiopia.

Or, if there is other subject you want me to discuss with you, ask me?
Yes.
I always wondered why christian ethiopia never tried to expand xtianity beyond her borders. Why didnt xtianity spread east,west ,south of abyssinia? Dont you think the early xtians of ethiopia had a duty to expand the gospel as an article of faith?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 10:19am On Apr 23, 2017
obaaderemi:
That's just 4 small countries confined to East Africa,and how come Ethiopia doesn't speak swahili?That kind of limits it although I sincerely wish all of black Africa could speak one language even if it was Swahili or Twi.But then a single language as a uniting factor is something overrated.Switzerland,a small country,has 4 official languages(french,Italian,German and Romansch)yet it's arguably the world's richest and most successful nation.
Is this a counter argument?
Ps: Black africa is not a monolithic cultural or linguistic monolith. We are different across and within countries.
Education › Re: Facts We Really Need To Know About Slavery. by MtuMsuper: 8:51am On Apr 22, 2017
Lagusta:
My dear brother......

You're right in some aspects.....

But I never equated north Africans as Arabs.....

Coffee is gotten from the Arab word (kohva) so please.....

ISIS is a different thing entirely, abeg.... Slavery is still practiced in Europe if you must know.... Go to Italy and Portugal and find out.....
Coffee comes from the region of Ethiopia where the properties of the bean it produces was first noticed: Kaffa region. Ethiopian legend​ has it that many many many centuries ago, a herdsboy noticed the effect eating coffee beans had on his dads goats, experimented its effect on humans, and the rest is history. Ethiopians take great pride in this fact of giving the world a popular beverage.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 7:54pm On Apr 21, 2017
uzzyfire:
abi is like saying "right" then oga is like saying "boss"

NORMAL ENGLISH
He will soon be back right?

PIDGIN
He go soon come back "abi?"

NORMAL ENGLISH
I know that man, he is my boss

PIDGIN
I sabi that man, na my "oga"
If i stick in nairaland too long, i go soon sabi pidgin pass warri man. How de market?
(Give me a pass/fail, how did i fare?)
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 7:49pm On Apr 21, 2017
Nowenuse:
Less than one-quarter of DR Congo speaks Swahili. Lingala is still the dominant language as it dominates Kinshasa (the centre of the govt).
In DRC, swahili is co-national with Lingala, Kikongo and Tshiluba. It's not the sole national language.
Kiswahili is one of the 4 national languages of Doctor Congo. Fully one half of Congo speaks kiswahili. The dialect there is called Kiungwana. The entire Eastern half of Congo uses it as the common tongue. Sadly, its a ver chaotic place thanks to so many factors. We have no choice but to absorb them .
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 7:30pm On Apr 21, 2017
uzzyfire:
every body in Nigeria speaks pidgin. its a language that brings people from different diversities toogeda
pidgin has power in nigeria no doubt. How do you talk to a market woman in Kano or Maiduguri? Do you use pidgin ad well?
Believe me when i say i will be well understood as a kenyan if i went to anywhere in Eastern DR Congo , all i would need is a crash course in Congolese Kiswahili. This very day, i heard some Congolese swahili speakers talking, it was just sweet listening to them. We have plenty of congolese in kenyan cities, what can​ we do about it, we live in an unbalanced world that doesnt obey the laws of entropy , and we have to absorb the imbalance from their end. We might be next.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 7:20pm On Apr 21, 2017
Nowenuse:
Ok, do you know that the different North African countries have their own varieties of Arabic?
But, most Tunisians, Moroccans, Algerians, Libyans and Sudanese can understand Egyptian Arabic very well. This is because of the power and regional influence Egypt has.

If not for the fact that all Arabic speaking countries agreed to adopt classical arabic as their official languages (due to Arab league brotherhood). Egyptian arabic would have been a regional lingua franca. That's the kind of power am talking of.
Kiswahili is the official and/or national language in Kenya,Tanzania,Dr Congo, and soon to be Rwanda.
Kiswahili got power baby!
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 6:34pm On Apr 21, 2017
Nowenuse:
Swahili lacks the power to dominate Africa because the countries who speak swahili are not powerful enough. It takes the language of a powerful country to dominate a continent.

Swahili has not even finished dominating Uganda. The southern half reject the language and favours Luganda. In Congo, Swahili still has 3 powerful lingua francas (Lingala, Kikongo and Tshiluba) to compete with. Rwanda and Burundi are very small, uninfluential and insignificant countries in Africa.

Until there is a powerful, dominating and large country speaking swahili in Africa, the language will never dominate Africa. Arabic is even doing better.
How do you perceive/understand/practice this thing ,whats it again,....ah yes "power" ?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 6:32pm On Apr 21, 2017
Nowenuse:
All of you Bantus are similar, you have same ancestors from Nigeria/Cameroon axis.

This is why i support a Bantu union in Africa. You guys should try and trace the original proto Bantu language and promote it! (this may end up being the language to unite Africa) as Bantu is the largest subgroup of the Black race.

Swahili on it's own will never be able to penetrate Southern Africa, West Africa and West-Central Africa.
Has any language ever united Europe, Asia or pre columbian America?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 6:26pm On Apr 21, 2017
TayserMahiri:
Kusema kweli sijafika kwenye vikao vya kaunti, lakini najionea mwenyewe kwenye runinga. Hapo kwa Beijing, itakuwaje wakianzisha jopo lisilo kama kwenye kaunti zingine/ katiba? Maoni murwa lakini
Hapo kwenye katiba ndo kasheshe.Naona kaunti ya Nairobi livunjuliwe mbali na wajumuishe wataalam wa fani husika kushughulikia maendeleo, uamuzi na mafanikio na uongozi wake. Nairobi haistahili uongozi wa hali ya 3, hasa ukizingatia ni mji mkuu kanda wetu wa afrika. Tuwe kama Beijing, ambapo kila kitu linashughlikiwa na serikali ya nchi kv Canberra ya Australia, Washington DC ya mareakani au hata Abuja ya hawa mahasidi wetu. Linahitaji ushujaa wa hali ya juu nani, ukitaka itendeke, lakini mate inawadondoka hawa watawala wetu na mifumo yao, hawatakubali. Napendekeza pia miji kama Mombasa na labda Ksm na Nkr waingie kwenye hilo box. Nimeona uongozi wa hali ya 7th katika hayo miji, sio mchezo.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 6:14pm On Apr 21, 2017
@forgiveness, forgive me but my eyes are tired. Will read the long post in full 2mrw, but know this: if i ever come to Lagoose one day, i will not trust the water.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 6:07pm On Apr 21, 2017
Nowenuse:
Tswana is official in Botswana. Shona is official in Zimbabwe. Chichewa is official in Malawi.
confirmed. my bad. Chichewa is a national language in Malawi though, not official. I have heard it spoken and it sounds like shona language of Zimbabwe. They are so close, a stranger cant tell the difference. And even more interesting is the similarity in names between shona people of Zimbabwe and Mijikenda people of Kenya, its eerie. But the spoken shona sounds like maragoli dialect of the luhya people of kenya.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 5:25pm On Apr 21, 2017
Muafrika2:
Kweli. Na ndio tulidhani wata chunga magavana wasiibe, kumbe!

Na kweli wana pesa! Nilitembea mashambani juzi, nyumba kubwa zote Ni zao. Enyewe hii demokrasia haitufai kabisa!
Kisha hawana uwajibikaji Naona tufate lile kauli ya Uhunye tuwakate mishahara kwa asilimia nono ndo ili utumishi lisiwe chanzo cha kupora au kufisadi. Yaani hata mpaka sehem za kaskazini nimeona wakinunua bunduki za kutishatisha na pesa zao chafu. Mwenzake nairobi atanunua plot lakini mturkana atanunua bunduki ya ajabu . Laiti ningezaliwa hata sijui wapi ......labda bangladesh au nigeria, hapo nisingelipinga huo ujuha.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 5:12pm On Apr 21, 2017
Shaytun:
And why will you choose obi1kenobi opinion over Nowenuse? Because it satisfy your "deluded" Fantasy about nigeria, that's why.
Nowenuse has proven himself to be a supremacist and anti kenyan. The Obi1kenobi guy at least is telling us the truth, uncomfortable as it is. I like realists.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 5:09pm On Apr 21, 2017
Nowenuse:
This is untrue. Most countries maintain English as their official language because of linguistic diversity. Many African countries (especially the Southern ones) have native official languages because they are more homogenous.
There is not a single Southern african country with native official language except SA. Get your facts right.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 5:05pm On Apr 21, 2017
Muafrika2:
Kweli.

Lakini, itahitaji kuhusisha watu ili pia halmashauri yenyewe isiwe inawakilisha mabwenyenye fulani na kusahau watu.
ukistaajabu ya musa, utayaona ya ma kaunti. Tembea tembea ujionee jinsi hao mafisi wamekita mizizi kila mahali, wakifatilia harufu ya nyama. Ubwenyenye kila mahali, utachoshwa. Wanalamba mate pesa za serikali kuu.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 5:01pm On Apr 21, 2017
Muafrika2:
He he. Nairobi imekuwa hot spot cheesy

Kitu funny, 2013 hawa watu walidharau nguvu za governors mashinani. Labda walidhani ugatuzi Ni ndoto bado. Kwa sasa naona moto itakuwa huku chini.
Maseneta sasa na kila mtu anataka kuwa Magavana grin
Wanaume wa team mafisi ndo hao. Wamejua wapi posho lipo. Shidwe! Hawana lolote .
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 4:57pm On Apr 21, 2017
forgiveness:
Government handles water distributions in Nigeria though very poor.

You listed 4 basic infrastructures: 1, water
2, light
3, Tarmac roads
4, sewage system

Abuja has all those save one
Some parts of Lagos has all those save one(light) while many places in Lagos has all those save two (light and sewage system).

Abuja is a better planned city than all the best cities in Kenya. grin

Water is well connected in major cities including my small town but people don't pay bills and this acts doesn't encourage the government to perform better.

Unfortunately, once government blocks flow of water, people decides to go the easy way by digging boreholes. But now in some cities you must pay taxes on every boreholes you dig.

Now, tell me more about the infrastructures on ground in Kenya cities that are better than Nigeria. grin
There is a dearth of information regarding water, sanitation and all things appertaining on Nigeria on the internet. Even your federal/state agencies are wanting You just hit a brick wall everytime you try and research. Its frustrating, hence the only way we can solve this is for a knowledgeable head to weigh in.
Until then , i will have to rely on what I've been told by a first hand observer and what Obi1kenobi has affirmed. That is there is no organised and standardised water and sewer reticulation in Nigeria.

Ps: You can tax folks all you want when they dig boreholes. Is that sustainable. With septic tanks all up and down the place. would you trust the water you drink? Dont you think regulation is a good and Necessary thing?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 4:38pm On Apr 21, 2017
TayserMahiri:
Maneno za nairobi sjui ka kuna mwanasiasa anaeza tatua, zinahitaji mneja.
Kiukweli,binafsi naona utendakaji wa jiji ni duni na sioni kama meneja itafaa, bali halmashauri. Nimetizama kwa macho kwa kuenda kwenye vikao vya kaunti na kushuhudia mwenyewe jinsi wanvyoendeleza kule, na utashangaa na kustushwa na kauli zao. Sio eti kwamba hawa majamaa waitwao MCA hawajasoma, hawana hekima. Muhimu sana Wanafanya maamuzi ya kiufundi kupitia kura. Hapo siwezi waunga mikono sababu mambo ya kiufundi yanahitaji ufundi na sio ushabiki. Naunga mkono utendakazi wa jiji Nairobi liwe kama la Beijing ambapo halmashauri /jopo la jiji linasimamia jiji na kufanya maamuzi kiutaalam. Pale kuna wataalam wa aina zote, wanaofanya maamuzi na utekelezaji na sio hawa chipukizi wasio na taaluma wala hekima wala kufanya upembuzi yakinifu. Utachoka aisee, ukioyaona na macho mwenywe.

Maoni yangu ya senti mbili tu.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 12:23pm On Apr 21, 2017
forgiveness:
Only two and you no wan make we hear word. Bhuuuhahaha! grin

Kenya in African politics is inconsequential. grin

When we talk Africa, we talk Ethiopia, Egypt, Nigeria, and South Africa, sorry. grin

If na oyinbos, den full many cities in Nigeria. grin

Look at Calabar with oyinbos full ground. grin
My dear, the number of oyinbos has never been a measure of anything other than the number of oyinbos. I dont know who told you having oyinbos is important- or not.
Yes only two HQs. Getting even 1 global HQ of UN is a monumental task. Paris has forever been trying to steal the 2HQs away from Nairobi. We have effing 2. So hell yeah, only 2 goddamn GLOBAL UN HQs will do, thank you very much. That puts Nairobi at oar with other cities hosting UN Hqs like Genevé and NY city. I dont think UN would want to put up anything global in sweaty,septic tank and borehole using Lagoose.

Analyse that.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 12:12pm On Apr 21, 2017
forgiveness:
Only two and you no wan make we hear word. Bhuuuhahaha! grin

Kenya in African politics is inconsequential. grin

When we talk Africa, we talk Ethiopia, Egypt, Nigeria, and South Africa, sorry. grin

If na oyinbos, den full many cities in Nigeria. grin

Look at Calabar with oyinbos full ground. grin
My dear its not having oyinbos in your country that matters. The significance of having a global UN agency HQ in your country is absolutely vital and a major plus. We dont evaluate a city by the number of oyinbos, which you guys are very fond of kidnapping.
Making a false assertion(kenya is inconsequential in african politics) ,and then proceeding to state otger countries that might, is just plain tomfoolery. I cant defend or acknowledge a falsity.
And it is 2 GLOBAL UN HQs .TWO. That puts us at a par with Geneva,NY city.



Analyse that.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 5:44am On Apr 21, 2017
forgiveness:
Almost all those MNCs companies are in Nigeria. grin
That is the GLOBAL HQ of UNEP & UN Habitat. GLOBAL!!!! That means in almost all cases, the ambassadors different countries send to kenya also represent their countries at these 2 agencies.
Diplomatic hotspot of africa. You cant make that stuff up.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 7:23pm On Apr 20, 2017
68816419:
well , here you go "In 2015, 69% of the total population had access to "improved water supply". This was 80% of the urban population and 57% of the rural population. In 2015, around 58 million people lacked access to "improved" water. As for sanitation, only 29% of the total population had access to "improved" sanitation."

your also go ahead and understan how the water supply works
Water supply by cities
Abuja
Millennium Park in Abuja, whose water supply is being expanded.

Nigeria's capital Abuja receives part of its drinking water from the lower Usuma dam. The capacity of the plant that treats surface water from the dam’s reservoir was in the process of being increased in 2012 in order to cater for the growing population of the capital. The Guara dam, which was under construction in 2012, is expected to further increase water supply to Abuja and to mitigate against the risk of drought.[12] Wastewater is treated in a 131,200 cubic meters per day plant at Wupa that was completed in 2007. The Federal Capital Territory, through the Abuja Environmental Protection Board, has contracted a private operator to run the plant. However, when the government apparently failed to pay the operator he walked away, confronting the area with a pollution crisis.[13]
Lagos

Nigeria's largest city Lagos is surrounded by water from the sea and a lagoon. Its clean water supply in the city is about 81.32%.[citation needed] But since the raw water in the lagoon is too polluted, the city gets its water from Ogun River and Owo River. The city's oldest water treatment plant, located in Iju on the Ogun River, was built in 1910. It was expanded in stages to 45m gallons per day. Another smaller plant was built at Ishashi on the Owo River in the 1970s. The biggest plant so far was commissioned in 1991 in Adiyan with a capacity of 70m gallons per day. It also draws from the Owo River. There are also seven mini-waterworks drawing from local sources with a combined capacity of 18m gallons per day.[14] The Lagos Water Corporation states that the water produced in the plant meets the highest standards, and that it supplies "safe drinking water in sufficient and regular quantity to over 12.5 million people in Lagos State".[15] However, water is often contaminated in the distribution network and people distrust tap water quality.[16] Electricity supply interruptions prevent treatment plants from operating continuously.[17] However, a dedicated 12.15 MW power plant was under construction in 2012 to supply power to the Adiyan, Iju and Akute water treatment plants.[18] Households also source water from numerous private shallow wells.[18] Or households rely on street vendors, creating a thriving market for “sachet water”, purified water packaged in polyethylene pouches.[17] Water vendors called Mairuwa sell water from tanks and drums on carts, which is sometimes sold to other vendors that carry water in buckets or gerry cans.[18] Access to water provided by the state Water Corporation is 'metropocentric' i.e., centred around the metropolis.[19]
Makurdi

In Makurdi, the capital of Benue State, only about 25-30% of the population are served and inhabitants fetch raw water in buckets from the polluted Benue river. In 2008 the construction of a water treatment plant was left unfinished and officials were unable to account for USD 6 million. As of 2012, a water treatment plant was under construction as part of the Greater Makurdi Waterworks Project. According to Nat Apir, an independent water consultant, the lack of a modern distribution network will lead pipes to burst and the capacity of the plant is at risk of not being fully utilized.[20]
Other cities
T[b]he Northern city of Kano suffers from deficient water supply.
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Kano is supplied from local rivers and from groundwater which is over-exploited. Public water supply is deficient, so that private water selling points are multiplying and generate profits for their private operators.[21] Kaduna receives drinking water from the Kaduna River. Ibadan receives its drinking water from Eleyele dam.
National policies and initiatives

Nigeria's National Water Supply and Sanitation Policy, approved in 2000, encourages private-sector participation and envisages institutional and policy reforms at the state level. However, little has happened in both respects. As of 2007, only four of the 37 states - Lagos, Cross River, Kaduna and Ogun States - began to introduce public-private partnerships (PPP) in the form of service contracts,[6] a form of PPP where the responsibility of the private sector is limited to operating infrastructure without performance incentives. While the government has a decentralization policy, little actual decentralization has happened. The capacity of local governments to plan and carry out investments, or to operate and maintain systems, remains low despite efforts at capacity development. Furthermore, the national policy focuses on water supply and neglects sanitation.

In 2003 a “Presidential Water Initiative (PWI): Water for People, Water for Life” was launched by then-President Olusegun Obasanjo. The initiative had ambitious targets to increase access, including a 100 percent water access target in state capitals, 75 percent access in other urban areas, and 66 percent access in rural areas. Little has been done to implement the initiative and targets have not been met.[6]

In 2011 the government voted in the United Nations in favor of a resolution making water and sanitation a human right. However, it has not passed legislation to enshrine the human right to water and sanitation in national law. The country is not on track to reach the Millennium Development Goal for water and sanitation.[18]

Since 2008 community-led total sanitation has been introduced in six states, with the support of UNICEF and the EU. While not being a national policy, apparently this grass-roots initiative has met with some success. More than 17,000 latrines have been built in 836 communities, and more than 100 of these communities have attained the goal of being declared free of open defecation.[22]
Water supply and sanitation in Nairobi
Water supply and sanitation in Nairobi is characterised by achievements and challenges. Among the achievements is the expansion of infrastructure to keep pace with population growth, in particular through the construction of the Thika Dam and associated water treatment plant and pipelines during the 1990s; the transformation of the municipal water department into an autonomous utility in 2003; and the more recent reduction of water losses – technically called non-revenue water – from 50 to 40%.[1]

Challenges include poor quality and intermittent water supply (only 40% of those with house connections receive water continuously),[2] the loss of storage capacity in reservoirs behind dams through siltation accelerated by erosion in the Aberdare Range,[3] lack of access to adequate sanitation in slums where half the population of the city lives, blockages of sewers resulting in overflows,[4] and unused capacity in the city's largest wastewater treatment plant in Dandora.[5] Another problem is political infighting and corruption, leading to the firing of the entire Board of the Nairobi Water Company in 2009.[6]
lastly,Gat a task for you ,"please compare the numbers of people that consummes water in lagos then compare it with kenya water consumption at large"
You just went straight to wikipedia, didn't you? All the stuff there is soooo outdated, its not useful. Wikipedia is not a source of indisputable facts,ESP when not updated frequently. You also conveniently cut and pasted stuff, such as there being no laws, standards, or even a national or regional regulator for water in nigeria. FACT.
I think it would be better answered by someone in the know, not a google keyboard warrior.

FYI access to piped water is NOT confined to Nairobi. There are water companies all over the country. The sector is far far more organised than what you have in the "giant" .
Its not numbers that count mister random number ending in 419, its quality.and percentages.
Ps: I also detect a contempt for contracts and contractual law, judging from this narrative. Not good for a country, not good.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 6:38pm On Apr 20, 2017
Obi1kenobi:
What sewer system? Only very few areas in Lagos have sewer systems. 99% of Nigerians construct their own septic pit with soak-away to dispose of sewage. Every few years, when it fills up, we call sewage disposal tankers that come and suck it up and dispose. There's no doubt that in terms of public utilities, Nigeria is one of the worst countries in Africa. Regardless, I highly doubt sewer systems are as widespread as you're making out in Kenya.
Ahaa!! 99% of folks using septic tanks ad very few places in Lagos with sewer lines. Is that even sustainable? And dont you think public services and their efficacy are what defines and separates greatness and mediocrity btwn nations?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 6:31pm On Apr 20, 2017
TheStronghold:
Why are we arguing which country is better? Honestly why is this a debate? Can both countries not be great? Do you see the UK and US people arguing which country is better? It's the bottom of the barrel syndrome. Only crappy countries have this debate. Prosperous ones don't care. That said, I do appreciate the relatively level headed conversation between Nigerians and Kenyans. I think other countries jumping into this conversation have turned the conversation south and derailed the thread.
This thread was begun by a nigerian nairalander,who made observations and educated deductions. Refer to post no 1 on this thread.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 6:22pm On Apr 20, 2017
68816419:
“The human brain is a complex organ with the wonderful power of enabling man to find reasons for continuing to believe whatever it is that he wants to believe.” cry Please keep deceiving yourself time will tell, nigga i have gone round kenya in and out.i keep saying this, the only Good parts in Nairobi were every things "seems" to be "OK" is Nairobi CBD and "FEW" adjoining areas, the rest are nothing but Bleep,even these "ok" Places only serves your Indians and white tourist masters,not the average Kenyas that stays in Kibera,Mathare,Dandora,Huruma,Kangemi,Kawangware.............
Mr random number, you dont have a monopoly on anything, insults included, so you best take on the man on the basis of his content. Since you claim to have lived here once, give us a comparative analysis of how average nigerians living in a town whose size is worth mentioning, get their water and dispose of waste.

Simple.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 6:11pm On Apr 20, 2017
GERALD710:
Let's see, we have actual water companies that provide actual water. Unlike Nigeria where most Lagosians and Abujans rely on boreholes.Nairobi gets its water from Ndakaini,Sasumua and Ruiru dams in Central Kenya.
Mombasa pumps its water from Mzima Springs(near Mt Kilimanjaro),Baricho in River Galana and Shimba Hills.
Kikumu from Lake Victoria etc
We have stable power supply.
We do have tarmac roads that end at our doorsteps.
We have sewer systems even in the smallest towns like my rural home town has a sewer system that uses trickle technology to treat the water.The town barely has 10,000 people. And that is the norm across Kenya.
Nigeria has federal governments that basically provide little or no such services.In fact ,I read that Lagos got its sewer system in the 90s shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked.Eeerm.My rural town had its sewer system in the 50s.
and Piped water serves barely 20 percent of the population of Lagos.In Nairobi,even slums have water kiosks where they buy water from Nairobi water
What i have been barking up and down ,just to get a simple overview. Yes, i have seen the phenomenon in nollywood movies, and i have also been told by a very knowledgeable person who has visited nigeria, that folks there.rely on borehole water for water supply, and soakaway for disposing of greywater.

@forgiveness, can you take it as a task and research on this? Defend 9ja with facts, not superiority (lol!) complex.Start with where you live
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 6:04pm On Apr 20, 2017
ThunderingHooves:
i think like mtumsuper said, let us hear from the kenyans living/working/studying/doing business etc in Nigeria come out and give us a balanced picture. Surely there must be some kenyans living there. Come out ,come out, wherever you are.

I have missed alot, and i now see this is a free for all brawl with Ghanaians and South Africans entering the mess. Very sad about the insults, its not good, lets be focused people.
Thank You!!
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 8:42am On Apr 20, 2017
Shaytun:
Comparing Kenya to Nigeria is a crime against Common sense.

Comparing Nairobi to Lagos is a crime against Education.

It's Like saying because Seoul of korea, or Tokyo of Japan is more Organised therefore it is better than New York, That's stupid, Anyone making

Such a comparison deserves To be hanged.
nice username,very appropriate.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 8:33am On Apr 20, 2017
forgiveness:
List all the multinationals companies in Nairobi and not in Lagos? grin
for better measure, nairobi hosts TWO UN agencies http://web.unep.org https://unhabitat.org
Nairobi is not enugu
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 8:25am On Apr 20, 2017
forgiveness:
List all the multinationals companies in Nairobi and not in Lagos? grin
just a few

Foreign Affairs › Re: Everyday Events In Israel by MtuMsuper: 7:09am On Apr 20, 2017
cristianisraeli:
its the same all over the world,blacks in the usa,jews in europe,black skinned indians in india,igbos in nigeria and other minorities,its not an israeli thing
are you serious? is that a response? i cant believe what you just wrote.

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