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Why are ethiopian/black jews mistreated and discriminated against, mr cristianisraeli

Muafrika2:
There is always good news, if only OluwaSeun didn't go out of his way to fish for the abdurd

Exactly!!!! And nigerians should respect other africans too.

uzzyfire:
Nobody kidnaps foreigners in Lagos , except d foreigner finds himself at d wrong place at d wrong time

Why do most foreigners in nigeria feel insecure? I know of oil workers living behind barbedwires,CCTV and armed bodyguards.. Why would i want to base my multinational ICT, social media or finance company in such a place?


Ps: So you're saying there are 'wrong' places to be?

uzzyfire:
people that want to be rich loooooolll, guy Nigeria is d land of opportunities, anybody dat invests on Nigeria wud make money.
big brother is a typical example. I'm sure u enjoyed d bbnaija show looooll

The problem with Uzi guns is not that they fire inaccurately, they heat up so fast after very short bursts, they are just not useful. Overhyped. Weak rebuttal. Next!!

uzzyfire:
and yet Lagos alone is richer than kenya

Kidnapping foreigners is a cottage industry in 9ja,abi? People even borrow money to go into this "business". Which foreign organization would want to set up shop in such an environment?

Jay254:
KisumKisum

nice. ojey wa JF kama sikosei. nice pics.

Pavore9:
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Many times though am not a fan of it but I do prefer the wheat you use for making chapati to prepare mine and it comes out like this.

oh dear oh dear!!!! You need lessons ASAP. PS: I share in your misery: of all the dishes i know, i have consistently scored in the bottom of the class when it comes to chapati making. Get those lessons ASAP.
I have tasted pounded yam and actually liked it. I ate 3 servings. Well cooked it is delicious.

Pavore9:
That looks more like Eastern Africans' ugali (made from maize)

Oga, have you eaten it before? Does it sit well with your stomach?

Nairaland, this is not Eba.

Its called ugali in east africa ,pap in SA, sadza in zimbabwe, posho in uganda, nshima in Zambia and its got sooooo many names in different african languages. Made from maize flour.

GERALD710:
We would prefer to replace Nigerians with East and Central Africans.Our kin, and much better behaved too. And much less arrogant too. I prefer Ugandans.And Rwandans.Less risk, and less arrogance.

very important point

Obi1kenobi:
Teasing red-haired people is different from abusing the "blackness" of another country. Hair colour is not an identity. Whether an Irish man has ginger or brown hair, he's still Irish. Blackness is an identity. When you insult a tribe or country based on how black they are, you're basically rating black people's worth based on who is fairer.

Thank you bro. There are different shades of skin color between me and my siblings. Even amongst my kids and between my nieces and nephews. Someone might be skinfolk but they aint kinfolk and somebody might be blood but not family. Moral of the story: skin color is just like sweet wrapping or clothes, they dont tell how sweet what is underneath.

GERALD710:
I do not think any East ,Central or Southern African follows anything Nigerians do.
First of all, we think you Nigerians, are a couple of retards.
Southern Africans copy South Africa.
Central Africa copies France and We are fans of the West(Christians) and India(Muslims).
The first thing that comes to a Kenyan mind about Nigeria is;
The local drug peddler.
The scammers, bank hackers, being arrested by Interpol every month on our soil
Poor English in Nigerian movies
The people who are ever at the deportation wing of JKIA
Your women have large lips and apply too much lip balm in the movies.
Poor English again.
To Ugandans Nigerians are:
Pooooooor English!
the people we tell the deportees to walk back home, Museveni has no money to waste on plane deportations!!
To Tanzanians Nigerians are:
Transiting to South Africa. Bwana Asifiwe!!!
Tried and murdered the Swahili language at customs and need to be deported for that!!
To Somalis Nigerians are:
Scammers
monkeys
To Ethiopians Nigerians are:
Baboons just slightly lighter in color than the Baboons to our West
To Eritreans Nigerians are:
The people who compete with us in drowning in the Med
To South Sudanese Nigerians are:
To be charged $1000 a year for a business permit since they will scam us anyways
To Seychelles Nigerians are:
To be deported on arrival
To Mauritians Nigerians are:
Wait , Where is Nigeria exactly?Oh, on the mainland!!On the other side?So on Mars then.
To Rwandans Nigerians are:
Very very ugley!!
To Burundians Nigerians are:
Je ne parle pas anglais
To Sudanese Nigerians are:
The prostitutes of Port Sudan and comfort women when on Hajj
You clearly do not know how poor Nigerian reputation is around here.
Superior Africans indeed!!More like lowlifes we deport every month who still insist on crawling back!!

Eishh!!!Tuliza,tuliza.

The list :
http://lpi.worldbank.org/international/global

O0XYGEN:
Ghanaians are the happiest good look people in west africa.
You nigerians are like baboons.
And smelly as poo

Happy people.

@O0XYGEN and @Just 30 i couldn't help but ask whether you guys can start a thread on major construction projects in Ghana. That photo of market you put up, tell us more about it.I have an interest in these things.

The reason why they are cheaper is the same reason cars from the UAE(Dubai) are cheaper than almost everywhere : China phone manufacturers use kenya as a trans shipment point to elsewhere in SSA. Basically, its like going to buy at the wholesalers shop,its bound to be cheaper. Most phones landing at the port are not exclusively for the kenya market but for uganda,rwanda,congo dr and south sudan. In fact in when travelling to uganda from kenya,the uganda police are very strict with people who cross the border to kenya to buy phones on the cheap for onward sale in uganda, so they conduct serious search on luggage.

okuya:
lai ! lai !, no talk am again !. was in Kenya 2weeks back, they are way ahead of us in terms of standard of living, asides phones, food and transportation, everything in kenya is expensive in relation to Nigerian Naira, houses, cars and clothings are double the prices in Nigeria comparatively, but the bottom line is "THEIR CITIZENS CAN AFFORD THEM", Nairobi is filled with standard malls not like the stores we av here called malls where the south african store chains are champions

Thanks for the candid assessment.

Muafrika2:
Nigerian banks here are only serving NIGERIAN economic refugees

Never met a Kenyan with an Ecobank account. He he Very tiny market space.

Now you are claiming standard chartered? Funny. Not that its that great even here,

I also struggle at times to.understand which kind of people bank with Ecobank. A very small bank in kenya,which should be in tier 3 if you ask me. In fact, the general rule of thumb in kenya is to reconsider your relationship with your bank if there are no queues, of which Ecobank and Guaranty Trust(they bought FINA bank) fit the bill.
99% of the people i know are with either Equity, KCB,Co-op and Barclays.

Nowenuse:
Thank you for showing the people who they truly are.
The truth is that Nigerians are really the most succesful group of Black Africans.
Many other Black Africans behave so primitive and uncivilized especially these Bantu people (South Africans et al)

You're a supremacist. You should write a book, and call it 'My struggle'. I wonder what this book would be called if translated into german.
The 'bantu' speaking countries you deride so much are a haven for your people fleeing a terror stricken, famine ravaged, crime infested, ritualist, religiously intolerant fatherland.

uzzyfire:
baba wat Eva u say no consine me, all I know is its d largest in Africa and its times 10 of Ghana's economy sooo park one side

Yet 5 m + nigerians have flooded Ghana, and possibly 800,000+ in SA. Greater or similar numbers elsewhere, even our dear naijalander is in Kenya of all places,yet he is just a poorly behaved guest. Ghana cedi is nowhere as feeble as naira,as is the kenyan shilling. Even zambian kwacha has a steadier trajectory. IDK, maybe you can tell us which is the better place to live,work,study and die in.

Muafrika2:
Let's not forget that these awards have alot of rigging and corruption especially where Nigerian entertainers are involved

nigerians also wanted to rig CAF african player of the year awards against Yaya Toure and Pierre Aubameyang, just because they were non nigerians, and not because they were the bad a$$ players they were.

Obi1kenobi:
I get your point, but while Lagos may reflect the extreme wealth disparity of a city like New York, I doubt Kenya is anything like Sweden. Just like Nigeria, you have extreme wealth mixing with extreme poverty. So, your analogy is a false one.

All right then jedimaster , i was merely trying to debunk the obscene and lewd line of the Lagos GDP vs kenya/ghana combination, not trying to swing my luminous sword.
Lagos GDP, looks like a muscular body builder with huge head,arms and torso ,but the legs of a chicken. This so called big GDP is based on a large financial sector and other related fields, but the average Lagosian has an extremely high cost of living tp bear, and no social services or utilities worth boasting of. Ancient Rome did a good job by the standards of the day in providing water fir its residents, and even attempted urban renewal at a scale Lagos or even any other modern city today would envy.
We all have a long way to go.

Nowenuse:
Pls, Kenya's GDP per capital (nominal) is below $2,000. Around $1700. That your figure $3304 is GDP per capital (PPP).
Nigeria's per capital (PPP) is twice that of Kenya.
Our economy (PPP) is ten times their economy.

Pls, differentiate the Nominal figures from the PPP figures. They are not anywhere close to Nigeria financially, no matter the measure you use.

You see, the point am making is that GDP(your fake and questionable one, and others) is a measure of CONSUMPTION and/or PRODUCTION. GDP is not a measure of wealth and / or happiness. Nigeria is happier than S Korea but less materially prosperous. In Nigeria's case its heavily distorted by oil production and a highly exclusive and elitist financial sector based in Lagos. HDI and development Indicators on the other hand measure overall quality of life and wellbeing.
You better back up your figures on PPP vs Nominal GDP ,quoting wikipedia will get you a serious ass whooping - not credible,but useful.

Eastwalk:
Even on qualitative analysis as you imply Lagos GDP per capita as in per person is higher than Kenya

Lagos GDP---$91 billion
Per person-----$4,333
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagos_State

Kenya GDP per person $3,304

If Lagos is a country it will engolf Kenya in all reminifications

That, sir, is the very definition of QUANTITATIVE Analysis.
What is this GDP?
How is it distributed?
NY city has a larger GDP than Sweden many times over, but the average Swede lives longer,eats better, is better at math and science,is bilingual, is more informed ,and has universal health care(hola Trump!) than the average new yorker. In other words, if i were a roach, i would rather be a roach in Sweden.
Thats a starter course for you now.

uzzyfire:
guy shut up and stop calling Nairobi abeg, Lagos and Nairobi are not on d same level. Lagos is light years away from Nairobi in everytin. were they joking wen they sed Lagos is one of d fastest growing cities in d world ,or wen they sed Lagos is d powerhouse of Africa . guy come on now stop comparing Nairobi to Lagos ,its very insulting . there's no city in Africa like Lagos . so please compare Nairobi to borno(boko haram territory loooolll) their GDP is even higher than Kenya's own looolll

"Lagos GDP is larger than Kenya and Ghana combined". That's called porn in some parts of the world . Luxembourg has a smaller pop than Nairobi, or even your state capital, can you compare their overall wellbeing with yours? Qualitative analysis bro, that's what counts.


Porn.

Nowenuse:
Really? Yet we are still making progress and dominating the continent. Face the millions of your people in slums first.

Sadly,regrettably ,slums are everywhere, even in the so called advanced and wealthy west.
Just to correct you,though, the pop of slum dwellers in kenya is GROSSLY overstated. Get current.

Nowenuse:
Exactly my brother!

I know Nigeria still has a lot of work to do, but sometimes i look at the progress we have made and still making and i hold my head up high. Southern Africa countries had the whites while East African countries had the Indians who set their foundation for them for development.
We Nigerians on the other hand started building our country from the scratch! The british looted us and gave us a large country with nothing to hold on to.

Another useless and very false nigerian type lie: that the only development you see in other parts of africa is down to non native (read euro/asian) africans. Very sad lie. Repeating it over and over again line a broken record, doesn't make it true.

Electronzeez:
When the testing begins ,Africa won't be in any of their Rader .

Any misfire from NK will land in Canada or drop in Europe, any misfire from USA should land in japan ,south Korea ,China or India .


We Africans are attacking ourselves already . By the time trump sell those war plane to us we should be able to wipe out countries like south Africa and Kenya off Africa map .

I hail you, nigerian Kim Jong Something. Why would you want to wipe off SA and kenya off map abi? What did they do to you? Is it because of woman? Abi, tell us. Let me grab popcorn.

Nowenuse:
Port-harcourt (Rivers state) are trying, but they are still lagging behind Lagos state and Abuja in terms of development, security and infrastructure. Compared to how rich they are they are making snail progress.
Yes they have a great city plan and structure, but the govt is not meeting up to the population explosion of the city and the suburbs are really suffering unlike Lagos state which is meeting up to it's population explosion and the suburbs are experiencing wonderful development and integration.
PH (Rivers state) is supposed to be challenging Lagos now in many aspects considering the large allocation and internally generated revenue of the state, but that is not happening.

I have learnt alot about nigeria from you. You give a clear unbiased picture. much appreciated. mucho gracias amigo

Nowenuse:
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Enforcement of law in a smaller country is easier than in a larger country.
Why is it that some states in US are very rich while others are seriously struggling? Forget the overall statistics you see for USA. When you break down the various Human Index statistics for USA into her various states, you will observe the great difference in the welfares of the different states.
Due to the largeness of large countries, a single centre cannot always hold the nation compared to smaller countries where the centre can easily control everyone.

Take Nigeria for instance, if you divide Nigeria into North and South and take seperate welfare statistics, you will find out that the margin btw Southern and Northern Nigeria is very high because Southern Nigerian states are making more significant progress.
Infact, if Southern Nigeria is considered to be a country of it's own, it will be best or at least among the best in Africa in most welfare Index statistics, but Northern Nigeria keeps dragging Nigeria backward and there is little or nothing Southernerns can do about it.
Take for instance poverty rate in Nigeria as a whole is about 35%, but for Southern Nigeria alone, it is just 19%. National literacy rate is about 65%, but for the South it is as high as 90%.
Even within Southern Nigeria, Lagos state has distinguished itself from the others. Lagos state (if considered a country of it's own) is a middle income economy just like South Africa, Brazil, China, Malaysia e.t.c not to talk of other Human/State index statistical analysis where it can even surpass all these aforementioned nations.
All these are happening because the Lagos state govt on their own have made their state to work.

For instance it might be assumed that Nigeria is dirty as a country, but there are some states in Nigeria that are as clean as London and their state govts emphasize on sanitation and the people are very neat. When i first visited 2 neighbouring southern states in Nigeria, Cross river and Akwa Ibom state, infact i wondered if i was still in Nigeria. These people are very neat and their cities are as clean as Los Angeles. I hardly saw a paper on the floor and there were waste bins all over Calabar city, Gardens and Garden parks everywhere on the roadside, very calm, civilized and law abiding citizens and many more, but most times these people are not really judged for who they are as a people or state, the national image which is formed by many states that refuse to work on their people now defines them.

My point in all these is that for larger nations, the centre cannot actually hold the whole country together or enforce policies that will make the whole country progress and develop at one pace, different regions or states develop independently according to their state policies and government. At least, that is the kind of govt practiced in Nigeria and most large nations like India e.t.c.
I was interracting with some Indians some days ago and that was when i knew that the kind of poverty you see on TV in India is mostly limited to northern India. Most South Indian states are quite more wealthy ( e.g Tamil Nadu), more educated, more progressive and most of the ground braeaking medical research and activities you see from India affecting the world is from Southern India while many in the north keep on using religion and caste system to keep a large part of their population in poverty and perpetual backwardness.

Assuming Tamil Nadu state in India (with about 80 million people) was a nation of it's own, they would have been making progress comparable with the likes of Malaysia and Indonesia.

This is exactly the same reason why it is easier for smaller countries to progress than Larger ones!
This does not mean we should not give smaller countries credit for their progress, absolutely not, just that it is easier for them.

I did not even talk about the homogenous part. These arabic countries share one language, religion and ethnicity. Smaller countries usually have homogeinity which easily allows them to function and make decisions as one people unlike in a place like Nigeria where a President or Lawmaker from Yoruba nation extraction will bring a policy which is aimed at bringing national development, but most of the Hausa state govts and lawmakers will reject it because it is against the ethics of their religion and ethnicity. In such a case, there is nothing the yoruba christian or yoruba people can do about it because State govts have their autonomy to a large extent and make their own decisions.

If you don't get this point, then i really wonder what to tell you.

But you stiil dont see my point either, now do you? Since when is a country like kenya with approx 50 m people , a small country? We have similar dynamics in population i.e ethnic and religious diversity. Dont you think, the size isn't important , but the level of statehood within it.I take Singapore as an example. Composed of ethnic chinese, malays and indians, its level of statehood cannot be compared to even kenya. They do things for the common good. The sort of greedy politicians cum tenderpreneurs you find in many african kleptocracies would certainly face summary execution in Singapore. Can you imagine a place where greedy "businessmen" collude with state officials to steal money meant for kids drugs in a country like Singapore?
That still leaves my big query still unanswered: why hasn't the windfalls from oil sales been used to build water and sanitation lines, electricity and other utilities, fund basic education etc etc . Is that a function of country size or is it sheer irresponsibility? I think the latter.

Before we get ahead of ourselves, let us remind ourselves of the qualities that collateral must have.

Can the item put up as collateral have recoverable value at current or projected market price commensurate or exceeding the loan given?

Is it a fast moving asset?

Can it be reasonably valued by a qualified valuer and its value given to within reasonable acciracy?

Is it in good condition?

Can the said asset be assuredly in the possession of the loanee ,if and when the prospect of recovering the loan becomes a reality?


A good healthy cow with no defects, and good beef/milk producing properties can and does have collateral value here in kenya esp with micro finance institutions. Farmers in the USA frequently put up their herd as collateral when securing a loan with a bank. Heck, they even insure their cows!


No biggie here!

Nowenuse:
Oga, the truth is that we cannot use African countries like Namibia or Botswana to judge or be a model for other African countries because these countries are extremely small, just with only 2 million people! yet with so much natural rescources.

You cannot expect a country like Tanzania with tens of millions of people to make the same progress with a country like Botswana with only 2 million people when you give them the same land area and land rescources. Just like the gulf arab nations that have seen great advancement today because of the large oil deposits they have coupled with their small populations unlike Nigeria with probably the same amount of oil, but times 100 of their populations. This is why China is still considered a developing nation even though it is now competing with the world's most powerful nation (USA) in many aspects.

This is why we need to work harder and put in more efforts just as China is doing to carry all it's people along and meet up at the same time. At the end of the day, the glory, influence and prestige that comes as a larger working nation will be enjoyed.
This is why a developed USA is more influential than a developed Canada or a developed Norway.
A developing and working China is more influential than a developing and working Malaysia.

A very unhelpful and dare i say even nonsense argument You seem to suggest that a country is more likely to succeed if they have a small population and conversely say that they should also be excused for a lack of success if they have a large one. By your reasoning there should be a median or average population which should be the success point ,to put it for lack of a better term. And what would be this mysterious population size?
Ps: Having visited both Namibia and Botswana, i feel the ingredients for their success is actual and deliberate efforts and programmes by govt to uplift the micro and macro aspects of the personal and national economy. And a respect of systems and institutions by both the govt and citizens. For instance, how would you explain the huuuuge difference in attitude to littering by the average Namibian or Motswana to the average Nairobian? One can even chip in with differences in temperament as well, but that's not the point. The level of social sophistication in place counts for alot in terms of tbe choices people make in a place and their overall wellbeing.
The rich gulf arab countries have demonstrated WISDOM in how they use their hydrocarbon wealth. They have put in long term measures to ensure they remain prosperous nations even after the oil runs out, as it must​.They are very busy developing their transport systems and the UAE is now an undisputed global aviation and financial hub. These things bring $, jobs and skills into the economy, bro. What wisdom have the oil rich african nations demonstrated in the past and even now with regard to how they use their oil wealth​? While Norway might not be an appropriate example, at least they have demonstrated wisdom in how they use their oil wealth. This is the wikipedia entry for their national sovereign wealth fund : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_Pension_Fund_of_Norway . The point is oil wealth should have been used to build water supply and sewer systems, affordable housing, roads, develop agriculture, stimulate non oil/gas economic sectors and stimulate overall economic growth, just to mention a few. Sadly, it hasn't and Nigeria and Angola are Africa's best examples of poorly used oil wealth. While they should be leading us in all indicators, they are proudly holding the rear end, and producing the likes of Diezani and Isabel dos Santos. Shame! You cant buy wisdom at your local shop, now can you?

baby124:
This is Uganda right? I think I saw this in a documentary. The ancient houses are so beautiful in that country! Really beautiful! Wow!

OP,
I love the buildings in Timbuktu. It really shows that above the earth there are sufficient building materials. Those mud bricks used in the buildings are as durable as cement. If not more. They have been there for 100's of years. A Cement house would have fallen apart. I hope the building techniques are not extinct. I stand to be corrected but this is my observation.

Actually its Bamoun from Cameroun. Rhymes.
Those are not mud and thatch, but wood and thatch. Carved in relief art form. Walls of bamboo.