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on a serious not i know dis will happen onday that's why i decide to keep another of whice i swear she know nothing about.just imagine,if not 4 d other girl,how do i breath.am only posting dis to let u guys know never lay your trust on one woman 4 they are like weather expeciall d once from afar

we as understood. thansho 4 ya expeciall advice from afar whice on d matter

wtf you guyz saying.most of those heroic goals pele scored for brazil.who created and gave the assist for pele have a simple finish.i thought it was garrincha.i think messi in sum ways has a unique ability(solo run) which is far better than anything pele did.just that messi  has to show d extraordinary @ wc2010.

solo runs n dribbling skills dont equal best player if not okocha would be contesting for greatest of all time as well. wat it takes is overall impact n these include things u achieved as an individual player n wit teams; rising up to BIG occassions when it really matters. defenders n even goalkeepers can even contest for this title but unfortunately strikers, who's achievements translate in goals dat win games have an undue upper hand in this department dats why most world best players crowned are strikers.

yekini nor sabi dribble or even get too much skills but u know wat his goals achieved not just for himself but for nigeria as a whole. kanu is considered one of nigerias greats cos of his achievements (olympic gold, uefa champions league etc) n rising up to BIG occassions (those 2 crucial goals dat deflated brazil's dream team at atlanta 96). 4 messi to be considered as one of the greats he has to achieve GREAT feats

sulad82i:
Sorry sir, but I'll call you agba'ya too. LOL

n i'll call u olodo rapata

Save the fairytales abeg. . . . there was a lot more space for strikers in the old days, thats why matches regularly end up 7-3, 5-2, 8-1 etc. . .  .

No striker in the modern era can score the amount of goals those old guys did cos space is simply at a premium cos players run more than double the distance they used to, thus closing up any space. . .

Till infinity, no one will ever outscore Just Fontaine who scored 13 goals in 1958 World Cup or Gerd Mullers 10 goals in 1970. . . . thats how easy it was to score those days, so please save your "Thunder Balogun" stories about football being a difficult game in the old days. . . .

Just Fountain scored 13 goals in a WC (the only WC) that was played on league (round robin) format. Yea, football (wit advanced technology n way more money involved) is now in a more advanced form now but same way u lil kids say pele cant score as much is same way messi 9without all the high tech training facilities of 2day) cant do as much back in the days when strikers where not protected by referees like lil kids. i dont even think they wore shin guards then.


i see the fanatism that has come wit the popularity of supporting european teams has taken over alot of u lil kids. pele n messi dont belong in the same sentence talkless of being compared. point, blank, period.

Pele himself never singlehandedly win a world cup he was just part of the team.

In 1958 he was a 17yr old and Didi, Zagalo and Vava were greater than him in the Brazilian set up

u know he scored "two" goals in the finals against sweden, right? and he was just SEVENTEEN years old. maradona as an U-21 still couldn't make argentina 1st team for 1978 WC n flopped bad 4 yrs later in 82

In 1962 it was Garrinchas world cup with help from Zito and Vava. Only 2 players can be said to have won the world cup single handedly Garrincha 1962 and Maradona 1986

you know maradona was marked out of the final game against germany right? so, if players like burrachager n valdano didn't rise up to the occassion they would probably have lost 2-0 to germany, or wats ur definition of "single handedly"

1970 was an all star team, Jaizinho, Carlos Alberto, Tostao, Gerson.

so?

The Pele talk reminds me of old men in Nigeria who would always say "In the days of Odegbami and thunder Balogun" Football of those days are not technical at all, nothing like tactics, Its basically everybody enter the field. It was reported that the Brazilian team of 1982 even the keeper can dribble.

n where did u get this fable from? i can send u links to videos of 82 world cup n u'd be surprised to find out how play level in WC football has actually deteriorated the last few years

Pele na Bad belle dey worry am SIMPLE!!!!

hmm, how can he have bad belle for someone he's far higher than. messi is not even yet near the level of argentinian greats like mario kempes, maradona n even batistuta talkless of world greats like cryuff, zico, platini etc pele won THREE world cup wit Brazil n Messi is just starting talkless of to be put in the same sentence as pele. great players like george best dominated club football but dat dont put in on the top list of greatest in history. even gullit n van basten who dominated both club football n won european cups dont put them no where close to the top 10 cos of poor WORLD STAGE performance. Wait for Messi to accomplish sumthin tangible b4 u start to yap rubbish

And anything pele says should be taken opposite. he say an African country winning the world cup before the end of last Century and it never happened, He saw godwin okpara winning Player of the year: the guy dey jail now, He said Nicky Butt and Emile Heskey would be the players of the tourney of japan Korea 2002 and they were dud throughout

Scolari once said If you are preparing a team, Ask for Peles advice and do the exact opposite. Anyone Pele recommends as striker should be the goalkeeper and anyone he says would be the star should be

and is Pele a coach or suppose to be a soothsayer?

^^^^those are primitive JEWISH traditions n suppossed orders from THEIR GOD yahweh. u guys are AFRICANS for gods sake

*shake my head* @ another my god is better than ur god argument

may u guys pls for once leave these arguments for ur all powerful gods to speak for their all powerful selves

noetic16:
1. the saints of God will be glorified in due time as the father wills. we shall reign with JC in eternity. That is our glorification from the father.

2.

the glory of God is depicted in worship and submission to His will

. So on earth and in heaven the glory of God is supreme simply because He is God. . . .the creator of all things.

3. To share God's glory is to take credit for God's work.

4. saints will not be sharing God's glory as we take no credit for His work. . . , but the saints will be beautified thus glorified by the father . . . .because we overcame the tribulations of the earth and primarily because it pleases the father that we be glorified.

5. God remains God

and His glory will not be shared.

why is dis una god so obssessed wit being worshiped n being heaped on wit praise n glory? dude must have been really lonely b4 he created u guys to come feed his over-bloated ego. such a superficially vainglorious entity

wrong terms to use but u gots to know if u guys got compatibility in dat department if not,

If to say i get d money then i 4 give am.Bt d way she dey ginger me 4 d money i no like am.She talk say she get top wey she wan use wear d jean, Abi i go rob? I don tell am say nobody sabi 2moro bt she no send. Wetin i go do now? Girlz nawa o!

u be mumu/mugu/maga

kunletech:
Allah is not a God but is a sun gods.
Is one of the falling Engels. When Satan was formally known as Lucifer son of the morning star and the falling Engels, When Satan and the falling Engels entered the earth planet, Satan now planed his kingdom by using some of the strong falling Engels Knows as Principalities and Powers to Take over must of the major area that he knows he can win souls of man. He use some of the Demons as religion Demons, they are the one in charge of false religion deceiving God's children. These are the Demons Many religions are worshiping thinking they are worshiping Real God.

and what story book did u get all these crap from?

I dont think if there was an existing creator entity, he/she/is would care that much for the servitude, worshiping or praises of mere mortals n be bothered about the trivialities of u serving another non-existent entity. only egoistic, tyrannical "human" rulers are concerned wit such trivialities

??
U have said nothing
please re-read

let me not have to explain to you again. . I hate spoon-feedin old men

dude, why're u e-stalking me, u gay or sumthin?

oh wait wait and what about. . . the difference between zodiac mudley and jagunlabi. . .

nuffing

they are just fictional characters conjured up by my computer to precede the nonesense it shows on the screen. . .

How does it feel to be WORSHIPING a pure work of fiction?

streetwize:
dont mind him, Mudley, maybe you should also say that your faith in no God is also contradictory and thus nobody should have a mind of any sort bcuz beliefs clash. Since that means that belief contradicts itself and thus no one must believe anything. .

How do these people think??

your faith in no santa-clause nko?

In recent history, born again is a term that has been widely associated with the evangelical Christian renewal since the late 1960s, first in the United States and then later around the world. Associated perhaps initially with Jesus People and the Christian counterculture, born again came to refer to an intense conversion experience, and was increasingly used as a term to identify devout believers. By the mid 1970s, born again Christians were increasingly referred to in the mainstream media as part of the born again movement.

In 1976, Watergate conspirator Chuck Colson's book Born Again gained international notice. TIME magazine named him "One of the 25 Most Influential Evangelicals in America."[6] The term was sufficiently prevalent that during the year's Presidential campaign Jimmy Carter described himself as born again, notably in the first Playboy magazine interview of a U.S. Presidential candidate. Modern musicians Rev. Little Richard Penniman,[7] Mark Farner, Dan Peek, Donna Summer, Bob Dylan,[8] Kerry Livgren, Dave Hope, Dave Mustaine, Nicko McBrain, Roger McGuinn, Johnny Cash, Brian Welch, Keith Farley, Cliff Richard, Randy Travis, Alice Cooper and Lou Gramm[9] were artists whose born again conversions had an impact on modern culture. Others such as James Cash Penney, founder of Chick-fil-A Truett Cathy, wrestlers Shawn Michaels and Sting, Jesse McCartney, Charlie Daniels, and Mr. T are also mentioned as being born again. Former Alabama governor and U.S. presidential candidate George Wallace became born again in the late 70s, which led him to apologize for his earlier segregationist views.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born_again_(Christianity)

just some new age term espoused by cool modern day christians gotten from jesus's encounter wit nicodemus

Same thing as asking "What's the difference between Batman and Superman"

Both Fictional Characters

Different names and storylines/powers

na today

and why is faith not an evidence?

becos faith is contradictory. same way u have faith in ur biblical creationist story, so does people of over 5,000 religious beliefs world wide have faith in their own creation story. so, if faith is strong enough evidence, was the world created hundreds of different times by hudreds of diferent gods based on the faith of their believers?

Q: Why do women have pain in childbirth?
A: Because God (or gods) stated they would.
Q: Why would God do such a thing?
A: Because way back when there was this garden . . . . .

or

Q: Why do men have to work?
A: Because God said so.
Q: But why would God say such a thing?
A: Well, you see, there was this garden . . . .

lol, this one pass tales by moonlight

you forgot, why do snakes crawl on their stomach? Ans: becos they once had legs but tempted woman n thus god placed a curse on them that took away their legs

what's the difference between these mythologies n those of the greeks n dem medussa dem

reminds one of all em tortoise story told to one as a child; why does tortoise have a rough back/shell? becos, blah, blah, blah,

funny how people of adult age take these stories literarily of how the world actually got created n stuff

*shake my head*

catholics vs the penterascals


*shake my head* @ the confusions in the christian religion

According to the Bible:


[size=14pt]God determines who is going to heaven[/size]

"And as many as were ordained to eternal life believed." -- Acts 13:48

"For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate,  Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified." -- Romans 8:29-30

"Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began." -- 2 Timothy 1:9

"He hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will." -- Ephesians 1:4-5

"God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation." -- 2 Thessalonians 2:13

[size=14pt]and who is going to hell. [/size]

"God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned." -- 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12

"For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation." -- Jude 4

[size=14pt]There's nothing you can do about it.[/size]

"For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth. ,  For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth. Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction." -- Romans 9:11-22



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there's nothing like too much love; cos (real) love is a good thing. but there's a thing called obsession, which is very unhealthy

ladies are just more picky in their prime. the lucky ones get wat they wanted, n the unlucky enter into a state of "had i known"

juanita01:
You guys should atleast learn to respect each other. Must you talk to another person when you have not personally met him, its unfair and unjust. People that talk like this cannot go far in life and you better come open and ask for forgiveness from God and[b] from the men of God [/b] you talked about. Even though you see them do wrong, which i guess you never did, are you the God to judge. We love you all and need you to resist commiting this insane attrocities,

lol @ the bolded

yea, fashi online guy. u may be "cheating" ur hubby/relationship of time n if u guys discuss more than forex, u may be emotionally "cheating" on ur hubby

and if ur chat wit dis guy is so important dat u need to try n see reason wit ur husband to allow continue dis, then there's sumthin wrong sumwhere

Fhemmmy:
I would rather worry about what i do all day, instead of worrying about He that i dont have to worry about, He that is greater than the greatest

yea right

streetwize:
haaa uv becom very repititiv. . .iv answered all these your questions b4 go back to the parts on readin the bible and so forth. . due to your lck of respons ability uve even derailed this thread jumpin from one topic to another as i axed your arguments down

axe my argument ko, axe my argument ni.

if all your mumbo jumbos are wat u define as "answering all these questions", good for u. atleast, just 4 d effort of opening your mouth at all to speak, u did a much better job than your incapacitated god who can never speak for "himself".

n u started the threads derailment wit all dat your blabberings about william shakespare. william shakespare ko, william shakespare ni

davidylan:
Are you surprised?

smh @ online christian soldiers in joint defence of their all powerful god who just cant seem to defend/speak 4 himself 4 whatever reason

InesQor:
Mudley313 stop your gallant thaumaturgy and answer the question. For the third time:

hmm, nigerians wit their big big grammer sef

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um, nice try, trying to answer a question wit a question

Once again,
u believers of the bible always got an excuse to explain some of all these absurd bs. Even when direct quotes are used from the bible u act as though one made the sh.t up, and not your god. You will rarely find a believer who says "maybe I've been looking at this wrong" or "I miss understood that verse" or simply "I don't know what that means", it's just defend defend defend, even to the point where u know exactly what god means to say or do. What really makes me laugh is when numerous believers all have different meaning of bible scriptures yet they all call the non believer an idiot. Lol. I bet some of you cats are willing to be physically violent when some one disagrees with you; guess you learn to act this way from your violent azz bible god, who creates his children then kills them and sends them to hell.

Another thing, u guys love to say "your reading it wrong or dont understand it". Sorry but if the bible says god has killed thousands of innocent people based on what their parents have done, and sometimes for what seems like no reason, then thats what he did, it aint hard to understand.

Here sum more bible verses for u to salivate on of your bloodthirsty god murdering little kids n baby's :

Kill Sons of Sinners

Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants.  (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)

God Will Kill Children

The glory of Israel will fly away like a bird, for your children will die at birth or perish in the womb or never even be conceived.  Even if your children do survive to grow up, I will take them from you.  It will be a terrible day when I turn away and leave you alone.  I have watched Israel become as beautiful and pleasant as Tyre.  But now Israel will bring out her children to be slaughtered."  O LORD, what should I request for your people?  I will ask for wombs that don't give birth and bosoms that give no milk.  The LORD says, "All their wickedness began at Gilgal; there I began to hate them.  I will drive them from my land because of their evil actions.  I will love them no more because all their leaders are rebels.  The people of Israel are stricken.  Their roots are dried up; they will bear no more fruit.  And if they give birth, I will slaughter their beloved children."  (Hosea 9:11-16 NLT)

Kill Men, Women, and Children

"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked.  Show no mercy; have no pity!  Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children.  But do not touch anyone with the mark.  Begin your task right here at the Temple."  So they began by killing the seventy leaders.  "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded.  "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill!  Go!"  So they went throughout the city and did as they were told."  (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)

God Kills all the First Born of Egypt

And at midnight the LORD killed all the firstborn sons in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn son of the captive in the dungeon. Even the firstborn of their livestock were killed.  Pharaoh and his officials and all the people of Egypt woke up during the night, and loud wailing was heard throughout the land of Egypt. There was not a single house where someone had not died.  (Exodus 12:29-30 NLT)

God Will Kill the Children of Sinners

If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins.  I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, so your numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted.  (Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)

More despoil and Baby Killing

Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword.  Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes.  Their homes will be sacked and their wives despoiled by the attacking hordes.  For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off.  The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows.  They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children.  (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)

"Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works." (Revelation 2:22-23)

Kill Old Men and Young Women

"You are my battle-ax and sword," says the LORD.  "With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms.  With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer.  With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens.  With you I will shatter shepherds and flocks, farmers and oxen, captains and rulers.  "As you watch, I will repay Babylon and the people of Babylonia for all the wrong they have done to my people in Jerusalem," says the LORD.  "Look, O mighty mountain, destroyer of the earth!  I am your enemy," says the LORD.  "I will raise my fist against you, to roll you down from the heights.  When I am finished, you will be nothing but a heap of rubble.  You will be desolate forever.  Even your stones will never again be used for building.  You will be completely wiped out," says the LORD.  (Jeremiah 51:20-26)

(Note that after God promises the Israelites a victory against Babylon, the Israelites actually get their butts kicked by them in the next chapter.  So much for an all-knowing and all-powerful God.)

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yea, blah, blah, blah. u believers of the bible always got an excuse to explain some of this bs. Even when one uses direct quotes from the bible u act as though one made the shit up, and not ur god. You will rarely find a believer who says "maybe I've been looking at this wrong" or "I miss understood that verse" or simply "I don't know what that means", it's just defend defend defend, even to the point where u know exactly what god means to say or do. What really makes me laugh is when numerous believers all have different meaning of bible scriptures yet they all call the non believer an idiot. Lol. I bet some of you cats are willing to be physically violent when some one disagrees with you; guess you learn to act this way from your violent azz bible god, who creates his children then kills them and sends them to hell.

Another thing, u guys love to say "your reading it wrong or dont understand it". Sorry but if the bible says God has killed thousands of innocent people based on what their parents have done, and sometimes for what seems like no reason, then thats what he did, it aint hard to understand.

Here sum more bible verses for u to salivate on of ur bloodthirsty god murdering little kids n baby's :

Kill Sons of Sinners

Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants.  (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)

God Will Kill Children

The glory of Israel will fly away like a bird, for your children will die at birth or perish in the womb or never even be conceived.  Even if your children do survive to grow up, I will take them from you.  It will be a terrible day when I turn away and leave you alone.  I have watched Israel become as beautiful and pleasant as Tyre.  But now Israel will bring out her children to be slaughtered."  O LORD, what should I request for your people?  I will ask for wombs that don't give birth and breasts that give no milk.  The LORD says, "All their wickedness began at Gilgal; there I began to hate them.  I will drive them from my land because of their evil actions.  I will love them no more because all their leaders are rebels.  The people of Israel are stricken.  Their roots are dried up; they will bear no more fruit.  And if they give birth, I will slaughter their beloved children."  (Hosea 9:11-16 NLT)

Kill Men, Women, and Children

"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked.  Show no mercy; have no pity!  Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children.  But do not touch anyone with the mark.  Begin your task right here at the Temple."  So they began by killing the seventy leaders.  "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded.  "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill!  Go!"  So they went throughout the city and did as they were told."  (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)

God Kills all the First Born of Egypt

And at midnight the LORD killed all the firstborn sons in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn son of the captive in the dungeon. Even the firstborn of their livestock were killed.  Pharaoh and his officials and all the people of Egypt woke up during the night, and loud wailing was heard throughout the land of Egypt. There was not a single house where someone had not died.  (Exodus 12:29-30 NLT)

God Will Kill the Children of Sinners

If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins.  I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, so your numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted.  (Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)

More Rape and Baby Killing

Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword.  Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes.  Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes.  For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off.  The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows.  They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children.  (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)

"Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works." (Revelation 2:22-23)

Kill Old Men and Young Women

"You are my battle-ax and sword," says the LORD.  "With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms.  With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer.  With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens.  With you I will shatter shepherds and flocks, farmers and oxen, captains and rulers.  "As you watch, I will repay Babylon and the people of Babylonia for all the wrong they have done to my people in Jerusalem," says the LORD.  "Look, O mighty mountain, destroyer of the earth!  I am your enemy," says the LORD.  "I will raise my fist against you, to roll you down from the heights.  When I am finished, you will be nothing but a heap of rubble.  You will be desolate forever.  Even your stones will never again be used for building.  You will be completely wiped out," says the LORD.  (Jeremiah 51:20-26)

(Note that after God promises the Israelites a victory against Babylon, the Israelites actually get their butts kicked by them in the next chapter.  So much for an all-knowing and all-powerful God.)

so weve moved on. . .
oh so i guess u already know it wasnt God that said this. . .
to the best of my knowledge, this was the psalmist lamenting when he was on exile after he had witnessed his people and the babies of his people being slaughtered and taken apart. he was lamenting and saying what he wanted to happen to his enemies just as you would or do. . . however i see nowhere anywhere that even gives a slight hint that god endorsed his words. . .do you??

oh, its now the psalmist dat wrote it? its no longer "the word of god" when it suits u. stop covering up 4 ur bible god

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