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donnie:
I didn't bother quoting scriptures because Its what we know. It's not like I will have to win an argument to make it a reality. Esau knows this for a fact. Reason he tries to destroy you, but here you bare trying to be politically correct. Mtchew.

MuttleyLaff:
I doubt you really are woke, lol though

There are four groups in the world today, that are pretending to be Israelites/Hebrews.

1/ The Ashkenazi Jews, using the "Jew" label since the late 18th Century in order to appear to be Judahite Hebrews.
2/ Some Blacks, who deceive themselves into believing that they are Black Hebrew Israelites, aka Hebrew Israelites, Black Hebrews, Black Israelites, and African Hebrew Israelites
3/ Some Europeans. This Israelites/Hebrews pretense is found mostly in British Israelism and/or is an offshoot of Nordic Israelism, both are a pseudoarchaeological belief that they are people who are "genetically, racially, and linguistically, the direct descendants" of the Ten Lost Tribes of ancient Israel.
4/ Some Asians, who think they’re Hebrews and are found mostly in the Philippines.

Which one are you donnie? Not that your answer matters, because as you can see from Galatians 3: 28 above, God isnt interested in, lol,

MuttleyLaff:
You should know better that the BoJ, Book of Jasher is mentioned only twice, as that's in the Old Testament "... behold, it is written in the book of Jasher," - Joshua 10:13 and 2 Samuel 1:18.

2 Timothy 3:8, that one in the New Testament is not a mention of the BoJ, but rather is a mention of Jambres, a sorcerer at the court of the Pharaoh. C'mon now donnie, please just because of being out of desperation, dont mix apples with oranges. The two are different, the former, mentioned in Joshua 10:13 and 2 Samuel 1:18, means Book of the Upright One or the Book of the Just Man aka the Book of the Correct while the latter one mentioned in 2 Timothy 3:8, is an Egyptian sorcerer

"O LORD, remember what the Edomites did on the day the armies of Babylon captured Jerusalem.
“Destroy it!” they yelled. “Level it to the ground!”
(i.e. Our LORD, punish the Edomites! On the day Jerusalem fell, they shouted,
"Completely destroy the city! Tear down every building!""
- Psalm 137:7

"Esau I have hated, and I have turned his hill country into a wasteland
and left his inheritance to the desert jackals. "
- Malachi 1:3

“Children are an inheritance of the LORD.” "
- Psalm 127:3

"This is what the Sovereign LORD says: My jealous anger burns against these nations, especially Edom, because they have shown utter contempt for me by gleefully taking my land for themselves as plunder."
- Ezekiel 36:5

"They will be killed by the sword or sent away as captives to all the nations of the world.
And Jerusalem will be trampled down by the Gentiles until the period of the Gentiles comes to an end"
- Luke 21:24

Proving who Esau and whom his descendants are today is irrelevant to what's on the table right now about pretending to be an Israelite. It is more is inconsequential because of the first served gospel has been preached to the 10 lost tribes of Israel. Now that being done, next on the agenda, was the promise made to father Abraham, then to be extended to the wider world wide world. This is the original intent of YAH, to bring salvation and redemption to whole wide world at large. Courtesy, demanded that, to the Israelites first (i.e. before the exile citizens of the kingdom of Judah and after the exile all the Israelites) and then to the world following after that, donnie. This is where we are now donnie, lol, a level playing field, for all. No servants, no maids, no 72 virgin maidens, none of any of those nonsense etcetera

Not to be accused of avoiding your question, fyi donnie from above Malachi 1:3, Esau, the Edomites, were totally wiped out. That inheritance, in Malachi 1:3 above, God, by virtue of Psalm 127:3 equally above, means descendants. There is no Esau today donnie, the Edomites are wasted. They formed alliance with the Babylonians to attack Jerusalem (i.e. Psalm 137:7) but donnie, since you wanted to hear word, I'll give it to you straight up. Now do you remember the above mention of mine, copied from another thread and pasted here since relevant? Remember as seen above, that I earlier gave four groups in the world today, that are pretending to be Israelites/Hebrews, well fyi donnie, the Ashkenazi Jews are "who is Esau today" and Ezekiel 36:5, using scripture QED, inconjunction with Luke 21:24b proves this

donnie:
Isaiah 14:2
And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of YAHUAH for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.
How many posts have you made condemning the enslavement of our people. Even our heads of government in Africa are slaves of foreign powers. Or are you trying to feign ignorance of the fact that my people are the most downtrodden on earth. Or you do not know that we are not really in control of our economies and natural resources? Are we not still enslaved as a people?

Psalms 83:2-5
[2]For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.
[3]They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.
[4]They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
[5]For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:

Or will you also discredit Isaiah as you did Jasher? When you Christians say you preach Salvation I wonder what it means to you. I told you before, the bible is not a Christian book.
The scriptures are not fairy tales or a set of moral codes or ideas. NO. They speak directly to the people for whom they are meant.

Stone properly understand scripture, you must know who the people of the book are then you can properly interprete be the Prophecies of that book. And this is the dilemma Christianity faces today. They have been lied to and continue to lie to themsleves, hence everything takes them by surprise. They merely react to situations and events. Their prophets misfire and prophe-lie continually.

MuttleyLaff:
You should know better that the BoJ, Book of Jasher is mentioned only twice, as that's in the Old Testament "... behold, it is written in the book of Jasher," - Joshua 10:13 and 2 Samuel 1:18.

2 Timothy 3:8, that one in the New Testament is not a mention of the BoJ, but rather is a mention of Jambres, a sorcerer at the court of the Pharaoh. C'mon now donnie, please just because of being out of desperation, dont mix apples with oranges. The two are different, the former, mentioned in Joshua 10:13 and 2 Samuel 1:18, means Book of the Upright One or the Book of the Just Man aka the Book of the Correct while the latter one mentioned in 2 Timothy 3:8, is an Egyptian sorcerer

donnie, should I go shout from the rooftop ni? I earlier had informed you, that the Book of Jasher now paraded about is not the original one mentioned in the Bible mentioned in Joshua 10:13 and 2 Samuel 1:18.

The original BoJ (i.e. the Book of Jasher) is lost, missing AWOL, the paraded one is a hoax. Other apocrypha, clearly werent God inspired, just as the BoE (i.e. the Book of Enoch) isnt, which is why the BoE and BoJ didnt make it into the 66 canon, lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv_gmTkf_YA

donnie, it seems you are doing a knee jerk reaction posting here. Please read to see what the Bible says will happen and eventually did happen to the House of Israel. You do know about how Israel split into two political entities, dont you, donnie, hmm? You do know about the House of Israel aka the ten lost tribes of Israel and the House of Judah, dont you, erhn? C'mon man, you're slacking jor

Why should I want to discredit or chuck out the Book of Isaiah, erhn? It made the 66 books that made the canon. Now the thing is that the Book of Jasher, aka BoJ, is a pseudepigrapha, and this is he reason why it didnt make it into the canon with the other 66 books, donnie.

Now watch video clip of Professor Ama Ata Aidoo, former Ghana Minister of Education under the Jerry Rawlings administration, starting at the 0.37 minute mark, at what she said. She said something poignant, in the line of "We cant blame others for our difficult, unpleasant, or embarrassing situation but ourselves"

Interviewer:
Well if this is your impression, do you think that you can ever forgive us?

Professor Ama Ata Aidoo:
It is not a question of forgiveness. I have nothing against you. My point is that you did and you are doing for your survival, what is necessary. We can't blame you for that. The fact that we are not. We didn't do enough for our own survival and we are still not doing enough for yourself, that is not your problem. You know even though, the dirt, even everybody that God has created has a sense of survivor. You know and until we. If we don't develop it, we can't blame white people. You came here because you needed these things. You took gunpowder from the Chinese. You needed them to shoot people.

Interviewer:
Do you consider aids as a new form of colonisation?

Professor Ama Ata Aidoo:
OF COURSE (then smiling and swinging in her chair with a broader smile)

Interviewer:
Why?

Professor Ama Ata Aidoo:
Why? (disappeared smile but now shocked and not pleased being asked why)

I am not going to be dragged into blowing my horn about your "How many posts have you made condemning the enslavement of our people." question. Suffice to say, look at my profile page. What is on display there, lol. The older one is more about fight against injustice, discrimination, intoerance, oppression etcetera of any sort

donnie:
Are you trying to use the book of Hebrews to discredit the book of YASHER (Jasher) which was referenced/quoted by major prophets/ writers of the scriptures? Imposicant! You must be kidding.

JASHER is referenced in Joshua 10:13, 2 Samuel 1:18 and even 2 Timothy 3:8. You probably know better than them all.

You should know better that the BoJ, Book of Jasher is mentioned only twice, as that's in the Old Testament "... behold, it is written in the book of Jasher," - Joshua 10:13 and 2 Samuel 1:18.

2 Timothy 3:8, that one in the New Testament is not a mention of the BoJ, but rather is a mention of Jambres, a sorcerer at the court of the Pharaoh. C'mon now donnie, please just because of being out of desperation, dont mix apples with oranges. The two are different, the former, mentioned in Joshua 10:13 and 2 Samuel 1:18, means Book of the Upright One or the Book of the Just Man aka the Book of the Correct while the latter one mentioned in 2 Timothy 3:8, is an Egyptian sorcerer

donnie:
I have a question for you: Who is Esau today? Can you prove using scripture?

"O LORD, remember what the Edomites did on the day the armies of Babylon captured Jerusalem.
“Destroy it!” they yelled. “Level it to the ground!”
(i.e. Our LORD, punish the Edomites! On the day Jerusalem fell, they shouted,
"Completely destroy the city! Tear down every building!""
- Psalm 137:7

"Esau I have hated, and I have turned his hill country into a wasteland
and left his inheritance to the desert jackals. "
- Malachi 1:3

“Children are an inheritance of the LORD.” "
- Psalm 127:3

"This is what the Sovereign LORD says: My jealous anger burns against these nations, especially Edom, because they have shown utter contempt for me by gleefully taking my land for themselves as plunder."
- Ezekiel 36:5

"They will be killed by the sword or sent away as captives to all the nations of the world.
And Jerusalem will be trampled down by the Gentiles until the period of the Gentiles comes to an end"
- Luke 21:24

Proving who Esau and whom his descendants are today is irrelevant to what's on the table right now about pretending to be an Israelite. It is more is inconsequential because of the first served gospel has been preached to the 10 lost tribes of Israel. Now that being done, next on the agenda, was the promise made to father Abraham, then to be extended to the wider world wide world. This is the original intent of YAH, to bring salvation and redemption to whole wide world at large. Courtesy, demanded that, to the Israelites first (i.e. before the exile citizens of the kingdom of Judah and after the exile all the Israelites) and then to the world following after that, donnie. This is where we are now donnie, lol, a level playing field, for all. No servants, no maids, no 72 virgin maidens, none of any of those nonsense etcetera

MuttleyLaff:
I doubt you really are woke, lol though

There are four groups in the world today, that are pretending to be Israelites/Hebrews.

1/ The Ashkenazi Jews, using the "Jew" label since the late 18th Century in order to appear to be Judahite Hebrews.
2/ Some Blacks, who deceive themselves into believing that they are Black Hebrew Israelites, aka Hebrew Israelites, Black Hebrews, Black Israelites, and African Hebrew Israelites
3/ Some Europeans. This Israelites/Hebrews pretense is found mostly in British Israelism and/or is an offshoot of Nordic Israelism, both are a pseudoarchaeological belief that they are people who are "genetically, racially, and linguistically, the direct descendants" of the Ten Lost Tribes of ancient Israel.
4/ Some Asians, who think they’re Hebrews and are found mostly in the Philippines.

Which one are you donnie? Not that your answer matters, because as you can see from Galatians 3: 28 above, God isnt interested in, lol,

Not to be accused of avoiding your question, fyi donnie from above Malachi 1:3, Esau, the Edomites, were totally wiped out. That inheritance, in Malachi 1:3 above, God, by virtue of Psalm 127:3 equally above, means descendants. There is no Esau today donnie, the Edomites are wasted. They formed alliance with the Babylonians to attack Jerusalem (i.e. Psalm 137:7) but donnie, since you wanted to hear word, I'll give it to you straight up. Now do you remember the above mention of mine, copied from another thread and pasted here since relevant? Remember as seen above, that I earlier gave four groups in the world today, that are pretending to be Israelites/Hebrews, well fyi donnie, the Ashkenazi Jews are "who is Esau today" and Ezekiel 36:5, using scripture QED, inconjunction with Luke 21:24b proves this

donnie:
Jasher does prove that clearly. These and many more are the reason the book was taken out. Is it 100% free of human errors or typos? I can't say that, just like I can't say that about any of the books of scripture

donnie, should I go shout from the rooftop ni? I earlier had informed you, that the Book of Jasher now paraded about is not the original one mentioned in the Bible mentioned in Joshua 10:13 and 2 Samuel 1:18.

The original BoJ (i.e. the Book of Jasher) is lost, missing AWOL, the paraded one is a hoax. Other apocrypha, clearly werent God inspired, just as the BoE (i.e. the Book of Enoch) isnt, which is why the BoE and BoJ didnt make it into the 66 canon, lol.

donnie:
I am not saying we will not have gentiles in the Kingdom.
Who do you think will be our servants and maids?

MuttleyLaff:
I can't believe reading you typed this. Smh

donnie:
That's for a fact.

"And there shall no longer be any curse;
and the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it,
and His bond-servants shall serve Him"
- Revelation 22:3

You really believe in the servitude of others, hmm donnie? You're looking forward to sitting down and raising your legs up and be bossing someone around, running errands for you, huh? You aim to enjoy other human beings be at your beck and call, hmm? You want to be order other people about in the kingdom, yeah? Smh, well, I am sorry for you donnie because look at Revelation 22:3 above. The picture you have painted up in your mind, isnt what is going to project in the kingdom of heaven. All that nonsense doesnt hold in the kingdom. There is no accursed concept, we each and all serve YAH, as bond-servants or slaves and that slave connoction has no negativity to it, this is because He owns us, that's because He is our Creator. The blessing of the LORD makes a person rich and He adds no sorrow to it.

donnie, for you to have this mind-set of looking forward to dominating your fellow and equal before YAH's eyes human being is worrisome, to say the least

donnie:
See how you're struggling to use the Christian mindset to interprete Hebrew scriptures.

Do you think I am like you, who hasnt correctly and rightly studied to show himself approved to God? Do you think, I am like you, who cant correctly handle the word of truth?. Do you think, I am like you, who cant correctly explain the word of truth? Do you think, I am like you, who cant accurately handle the word of truth?. Or I am like you, who cant rightly dividing the word of truth, hmm?.

I am not like you donnie, who is ashamed to respond to each of all my numbered questions put to you. I am not like you who cant give a good effort of himself on giving an exegesis and hermeneutics of Genesis 5:24 and Hebrews 11:5, lol

donnie:
Eyaah!
Messiah was not a Christian, neither did he start start any religion.

Look at you doing a strawmanning here. Who did you see or read here, talking about Christianity, hmm? Where on this thread, did you read anyone talking about Yahushua being a Christian, hmm?

The Messiah, Yahushua aka Jesus was NOT even a Jew, talkless word being a Christian, lol, donnie. The word "Jew," fyi, is a modern invention, lol, it did not come into existence until the year 1775, lol, so no way possible, the Messiah, Yahushua aka Jesus, be a Jew. In fact, the word "Jew," as we understand it today is NOT even in the bible, in that written form, lol. The Messiah, Yahushua aka Jesus sef, isnt Jew, lol.

OK, who is a Jew donnie?. Simply put, Jews are people from nations other than the 12 Hebrew/Israelites tribes who practice a belief system known as Judaism/Pharisaism, the doctrine of the Pharisees, lol. It is similar to having those who believe in the Antioch Christ and/or Constantine Christ and so thereby are called Christians and what they believe in, is called Christianity, the doctrine of the Antioch Christ or Constantine Christ.

If one were to say that all believers are Judahites because Yahushua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, is of the tribe of Judah, it would be an incorrect assumption, a fallacy, so much the same way, would it be to claim that Jews are Judahites, because they arent. The Jews, about today, are not of the tribe of Judah.

In fact, just as I've earlier said, what is known as Judaism is actually Pharisaism. Judaism, as it pertains to Pharisaism, is a misnomer since it is neither the a belief/faith of Judah nor the doctrine that Yahushua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ practiced. Pharisaism is the doctrine or practices of the Pharisees. Pharisaism, is not an Abrahamic faith, which is why Yahushua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, was always at loggerheads with Pharisees, lol, because Pharisaism, basically is Babylonian occult traditions, in place of the word of God, brought in by the Israelites, who returned from Babylonian exiles (i.e. John 8:44, Matthew 23:33, Mark 7:8, Luke 11:52 etcetera)

donnie:
Show me your historical proof that none of the Jews escaped. And they were either killed or they converted to Christianity. Chai... The dellusion!!

"⁷All this happened because the people of Israel had sinned against the LORD their God, who had brought them out of the land of Egypt from under the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt. They had worshiped other gods
⁸and walked in the customs of the nations that the LORD had driven out before the Israelites, as well as in the practices introduced by the kings of Israel.
⁹The Israelites secretly did things against the LORD their God that were not right. From watchtower to fortified city, they built high places in all their cities.
¹⁰They set up for themselves sacred pillars and Asherah poles on every high hill and under every green tree.
¹¹They burned incense on all the high places like the nations that the LORD had driven out before them. They did wicked things, provoking the LORD to anger.
¹²They served idols, although the LORD had told them, “You shall not do this thing.”
¹³Yet through all His prophets and seers, the LORD warned Israel and Judah, saying, “Turn from your wicked ways and keep My commandments and statutes, according to the entire Law that I commanded your fathers and delivered to you through My servants the prophets.”
¹⁴But they would not listen, and they stiffened their necks like their fathers, who did not believe the LORD their God.
¹⁵They rejected His statutes and the covenant He had made with their fathers, as well as the decrees He had given them. They pursued worthless idols and themselves became worthless, going after the surrounding nations that the LORD had commanded them not to imitate.
¹⁶They abandoned all the commandments of the LORD their God and made for themselves two cast idols of calves and an Asherah pole. They bowed down to all the host of heaven and served Baal.
¹⁷They sacrificed their sons and daughters in the firec and practiced divination and soothsaying. They devoted themselves to doing evil in the sight of the LORD, provoking Him to anger.
¹⁸So the LORD was very angry with Israel, and He removed them from His presence. Only the tribe of Judah remained,
¹⁹and even Judah did not keep the commandments of the LORD their God, but lived according to the customs Israel had introduced.
²⁰So the LORD rejected all the descendants of Israel. He afflicted them and delivered them into the hands of plunderers, until He had banished them from His presence. "
- 2 Kings 17:7-20

donnie, so you want some history, hmm? OK, remember that, following the death of Solomon, the Israelite nation split in two kingdoms, the kingdom of Israel and kingdom of Judah. The Kingdom of Judah with its capital at Jerusalem, emerged in the south. The House of Israel and the House of Judah regularly warred or allied with each other but the outsiders Assyrians came to destroy the House of Israel, while the House of Judah was able repel them and so survived by sheer paying tribute to the Assyrians. It was when the Assyrian Empire fell to the attacking force of the Babylonians, that's when and how the House of Judah was taken over, they invaded Jerusalem, the capital of Judah, destroyed the temple king Solomon had built and took the elites of Judah to Babylon. The exiles returned back to Jerusalem, three years after Babylon was captured by a Persia superior force. It is these returning exiles who now rebuilt the second temple, lol

The House of Israel had already been served with a divorce certificate by YAH, even before they were destroyed by the Assyrians , long before the Romans set on Jerusalem, lol. It was only the House or Judah, or the tribe of Judah, who remained faithful to YAH, as it was the tribe of Judah, who only, welcomed and took in the Levites (i.e. 2 Chronicles 11:13-15, Hosea 11:12 etcetera), when the House of Israel, aka the 10 lost tribes of Israel, namely Reuben, Simeon, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Issachar, Zebulun, Manasseh, and Ephraim, stopped being faithful to YAH

Now, with that brief short version history done, donnie, if you really know and do 1000% understand what you are talking about here, you REALLY need to tell and explain, who you mean by Jews, in "Show me your historical proof that none of the Jews escaped". Of course, you havent got a clue, so I wont be surprise, you overlook and ignore this bit, lol

donnie:
Ok for example, many heard my warnings about judgement and gave deaf ears until Covid19. Now they listen to me.

donnie, please dont think of yourself more highly than you ought to think, lol

donnie:
If it was in 70AD, they'll try to escape as soon as they see proohecy being fulfilled. For many, it will be too late though.

You like and enjoy living in your delusion worlds sha, lol. They will try to escape indeed. No man, no way just like in the days of Noah, they waited because of the typical, their stiff-necked nature, they didnt believe, they have this false sense of entitlement, thinking they are invincible, untouchable and that they cant be annihilated, so stayed behind just as like in the Genesis flood time narrative. It is only the believers, who believed Yahushua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ and His prophecy, that escaped

donnie:
... In actual fact, history has it that many heard the news of the approaching Roman army and fled Jerusalem before they arrived.

MuttleyLaff:
I know what I am saying, lol, and I know more than you know. I know more than you think and believe that you are, lol. I am just enough to know you are wrong, donnie

The Israelites, by defacto, lol, are stiff-necked people. They are stubborn, just like some on this thread are, lol They that didn't believe in Yahushua, so do you think, that they that didnt believe Him as being the Mashiach, then after killed Him, believed the prophecy enough to have the sense to escape the Roman holocaust, 40 years later, hmm?

"²⁰“And when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then you will know that the time of its destruction has arrived.
²¹Then those in Judea must flee to the hills. Those in Jerusalem must get out, and those out in the country should not return to the city.
²²For those will be days of God’s vengeance, and the prophetic words of the Scriptures will be fulfilled.
²³How terrible it will be for pregnant women and for nursing mothers in those days. For there will be disaster in the land and great anger against this people.
²⁴They will be killed by the sword or sent away as captives to all the nations of the world. And Jerusalem will be trampled down by the Gentiles until the period of the Gentiles comes to an end."
- Luke 21:20-24

"¹⁴When the good news about the kingdom has been preached all over the world and told to all nations, the end will come.
¹⁵Someday you will see that “Horrible Thing” in the holy place, just as the prophet Daniel said. Everyone who reads this must try to understand!
¹⁶If you are living in Judea at that time, run to the mountains.
¹⁷If you are on the roof+ of your house, don't go inside to get anything.
¹⁸If you are out in the field, don't go back for your coat.
¹⁹It will be a terrible time for women who are expecting babies or nursing young children.
²⁰And pray that you won't have to escape in winter or on a Sabbath.
²¹This will be the worst time of suffering since the beginning of the world, and nothing this terrible will ever happen again.
²²If God doesn't make the time shorter, no one will be left alive. But because of God's chosen ones, he will make the time shorter."
- Matthew 24:14-22

No donnie, those that escaped the annihilation were, only the Israelites who converted, who became believers after believing, lol brother, lol. The Bible cannot lie.

donnie, do you know who were those that escaped? Do you know the identity of those who escaped, hmm? Well, like I earlier said in the above reproduced comment, I earlier made, Yahushua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ that He had warned about the destruction of Jerusalem (i.e. Luke 21:20-24 & Matthew 24:14-22 above) and of course the prophecy in 70 AD was fulfilled.

So, donnie, lol, them Israelites, in that earlier Matthew 24:15-16 & Matthew 24:14-22 above, who escaped, on the aftermath that prophecy getting fulfilled 40 years later, were the converted, changed, repented Israelites, who became believers hence why the "There is neither Judahite nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all ONE in Christ Jesus.”" as per Galatians 3: 28

donnie:
Is Jerusalem not trampled upon by gentiles today? Israel (Yakub) is a man, not a land. And majority of his descendants are on the continent of Africa. Judah (YAHUNDE) is scattered abroad and still in Africa.

You just scatter NT letters everywhere out of context hoping to debunk prophesies already spoken by the Spirit. You cannot convince an Israelite quoting Paul, the least Apostle, who was sent to gentiles and not Jews. What do you expect him to preach? And mind you, those gentiles knew who the real Jews were.

Not one of you can prove me wrong. You can only make noise on nairaland but watch and see the judgements that have been set to befall this world and Nigeria in particular. Ya'll false teachers and prophets will be forced to confess the lies you have believed and repeated.
I am not saying we will not have gentiles in the Kingdom.
Who do you think will be our servants and maids?

I can't believe reading you typed this. Smh

donnie:
You don't know what you're saying.

I know what I am saying, lol, and I know more than you know. I know more than you think and believe that you are, lol. I am just enough to know you are wrong, donnie

donnie:
They fled the land into Africa like Messiah Prophesied.

Matthew 24:15-16
[15]When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)
[16]Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

The Israelites, by defacto, lol, are stiff-necked people. They are stubborn, just like some on this thread are, lol They that didn't believe in Yahushua, so do you think, that they that didnt believe Him as being the Mashiach, then after killed Him, believed the prophecy enough to have the sense to escape the Roman holocaust, 40 years later, hmm? No donnie, those that escaped the annihilation were the Israelites who converted became believers after believing, lol brother, lol. The Bible cannot lie.

donnie, lol, them in that Matthew 24:15-16 are converted, changed, repented Israelites who became believers hence why the "There is neither Judahite nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all ONE in Christ Jesus.”" - Galatians 3: 28

donnie:
I am awake.

I doubt you really are woke, lol though

donnie:
I am an ISRAELITE

"There is neither Judahite nor Gentile, neither slave nor free,
nor is there male and female, for you are all ONE in Christ Jesus.”"
- Galatians 3: 28

There are four groups in the world today, that are pretending to be Israelites/Hebrews.

1/ The Ashkenazi Jews, using the "Jew" label since the late 18th Century in order to appear to be Judahite Hebrews.
2/ Some Blacks, who deceive themselves into believing that they are Black Hebrew Israelites, aka Hebrew Israelites, Black Hebrews, Black Israelites, and African Hebrew Israelites
3/ Some Europeans. This Israelites/Hebrews pretense is found mostly in British Israelism and/or is an offshoot of Nordic Israelism, both are a pseudoarchaeological belief that they are people who are "genetically, racially, and linguistically, the direct descendants" of the Ten Lost Tribes of ancient Israel.
4/ Some Asians, who think they’re Hebrews and are found mostly in the Philippines.

Which one are you donnie? Not that your answer matters, because as you can see from Galatians 3: 28 above, God isnt interested in, lol,

donnie:
Those whites are impostors

Hello pot, meet kettle, lol. Well, arent you a little ray of pitch black too, lol

donnie:
Our fathers broke the commandments and drank the cup of affliction as prophesied in Deuteronomy 28.

"³⁷“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones to death those who have been sent to her!
How often I wanted to gather your children together as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were unwilling!
³⁸Look! Your house is left abandoned!
³⁹I tell you, you will not see Me again until you say, ‘How blessed is the one who comes in the name of the Lord!’”"
- Matthew 23:37-39

donnie:
You don't know anything about what you say. Those who die in their sins, lies and deceit ain't hearing no trumpet sound. Be not deceived

"They will be killed by the sword or sent away as captives to all the nations of the world.
And Jerusalem will be trampled down by the Gentiles until the period of the Gentiles comes to an end"
- Luke 21:24

Be not deceived, because you don't know anything about what you say about being Israelite, lol.
1/ What do you know about the two houses of Israel, lol? (i.e. Isaiah 8:14)
2/ What do you know about why Yahushua, aka Jesus, said, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel?" (i.e. Matthew 15:24).
3/ What do you know about the Kingdom of Israel (i.e. Ten Lost Tribes) and Jews (i.e. the Kingdom of Judah)
4/ Where do you donnie pretend to fit in to? Is it the House of Israel or the House of Judah, lol?


The only Israelite who didnt get killed off in that Roman holocaust, lol, was the Israelite who changed, the Israelite who repented to becoming and/or being a believer. Praise YAH. Alleluia.

donnie:
This is the meaning of POWER, not the nonsense we see and hear from pulpits these days. Preach!

"If Jesus said, "you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free."
And you're not yet free, then somebody has lied to you in the name of TRUTH."

And by the way Nigeria, prepare for judgements. It is necessary and ordained that YAH's judgements fall.

h t tps://youtu.be/AUXB17Si9FY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq4aQdaxBcM

Farrakhan won my respect with this particular video, lol

donnie:
They are not contradictions and the fact that it was rejected by people who chose to push a white Jesus image on the entire world is additional proof of it's authenticity.

"²and Abraham apportioned to him a tenth of everything.
First, his name means “king of righteousness.” Then also, “king of Salem” means “king of peace.”
³Without father or mother or genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, like the Son of God, he remains a priest for all time. ⁴Consider how great Melchizedek was: Even the patriarch Abraham gave him the first tenth of the plunder.…"
- Hebrews 7:2-4

The contradiction is in the underlined in Hebrews 7:3a.
1/ Do you know what the undelined in that Hebrews 7:3a above means, lol, hmm?
2/ Compare Hebrews 7:3a with Genesis 10:1 and after tell if Shem really is Melchizedek, as you really want to believe.
Can the bible lie about itself ni? Can the bible be contradicting itself at Hebrews 7:3a with Genesis 10:1?
3/ Do you know that, our Lord and Saviour of the whole wide world Yahushua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, according to Luke 3:36 is a descendant of Shem? Do you know that, the Bible doesnt say Yahushua Ha Mashiach, aka Jesus Christ, is a descendant of Melchizedek, lol, hmm?

The Bible cannot lie donnie. It is only the hoax BoJ (i.e. book of Jasher) that will fabricate something and make up tales, as like how done in that quoted Book of Jasher 9:5-6 which you earlier provided, lol.

donnie:
There are many other truths that book of Jasher exposes.

donnie, read the next two below mentions of mine copied and pasted from another thread, to get clued up on the BoJ

MuttleyLaff:
Fyi, that the Book of Jasher now paraded about is not the original one mentioned in the Bible. The original BoJ (i.e. the Book of Jasher) is lost, missing AWOL, the paraded one is a hoax. The other apocrypha clearly werent God inspired, just as the BoE isnt.

MuttleyLaff:
Lastly on closing, fyi, every other book mentioned in the above listings are lost. The Book of Jasher you currectly see about and possibly might have read is a hoax. It is not the real missing book of Jasher.

Did you hear the voice of reason, Ihe\dinobi3, what he said about this matter hmm? He said has it been considered that these books may only be forgeries that were given the names of the true originals named in the Bible? Well, Cave\Adullam, I have done my bit, I've shown how to do the litmus test to find out, if or not any book, appearing genuine or stating to be true, though not necessarily so, is really an inspired word and work of God. Did I hand you back your knife? Lol.

donnie:
Do you know how many ancestors there are between Noah and Abraham.

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"¹⁷The descendants of Shem were Elam, Asshur, Arphaxad, Lud, and Aram.
The descendants of Aram weref Uz, Hul, Gether, and Mash.
¹⁸Arphaxad was the father of Shelah. Shelah was the father of Eber.
¹⁹Eber had two sons. The first was named Peleg (which means “division”), for during his lifetime the people of the world were divided into different language groups. His brother’s name was Joktan.
²⁰Joktan was the ancestor of Almodad, Sheleph, Hazarmaveth, Jerah,
²¹Hadoram, Uzal, Diklah,
²²Obal, Abimael, Sheba,
²³Ophir, Havilah, and Jobab. All these were descendants of Joktan.
²⁴So this is the family line descended from Shem: Arphaxad, Shelah,
²⁵Eber, Peleg, Reu,
²⁶Serug, Nahor, Terah,
²⁷and Abram, later known as Abraham"
- 1 Chronicles 1:17-27

"¹This is the account of Noah’s sons Shem, Ham, and Japheth, who also had sons after the flood
⁶The sons of Ham: Cush, Mizraim, Put, and Canaan.
⁸And Cush was the father of Nimrod, who began to be a mighty one (i.e. a gibborim, on the earth, meaning one who magnifies himself, behaves proudly, a tyrant, who is bold, audacious)
⁹He was a mighty hunter (i.e. a gibborim, in defiance, bold disobedience) before the LORD so it is said, “Like Nimrod, a mighty hunter before the LORD."
- Genesis 10:1, 6, 8-9

There in above pasted graphic, thats the answer to your question, lol. (i.e. 1 Chronicles 1:24-27)

Of course, Genesis 10:1, 6, 8-9 reveals, some of the many ancestors there are between Noah and Abraham who degenerated, deteriorated and spirally descended into idolatory, lol. Abraham was caught up in the idolatory practice, this is confirmed by Joshua 24:2. He succumbed to indulging idolatory and worshiped other gods until when YAH, TMH approached him or asked him to leave his country, family house etcetera to somewhere else.

donnie:
That many served idols doesn't mean they all did. Wasnt Noah one of his ancestors? Was he also an Idol worshiper?

1/ Do you know Noah was singled out by YAH, TMH?
2/ "This is the genealogy of Noah. Noah was a just man, perfect in his generations. Noah walked with God" - Genesis 6:9
Do you understanding how Genesis 6:9 means? Do you understand how "perfect in his generations" means, lol? Share what your understanding is then, as your answer should reveal if Noah was or wasnt an idol worshipper, lol

Listen bro, everyone from Methuselah up to Shem and his other two brothers, bar Noah, lol, were into idol worshipping. This is fact

donnie:
Why don't you provide the correct translations. Are they only correct when they agree with popular Christian belief? None of the facts I've provided contradict scripture.

MuttleyLaff:
Haba! Chief?
Melchizedek is now Shem? Tut-tut-tut

The fabrications you provided contradict scripture, lol, bro and I have so far highlighted them above blow for blow, lol. Please let's quit deceiving ourselves jor. The fake BoJ and the popular Christian belief(s) contradict scripture. They both dont add up when compared with the Bible, lol.

Now donnie, dont give me that "why don't you provide the correct translations" trying to avoid and dodge from committing yourself
please again give a good effort on giving the exegesis and hermeneutics of Genesis 5:24 and Hebrews 11:5. You are deviating from the bible, gone in looking at apocypha, like the BoJ (Book of Jasher) D&C (i.e. Doctrine and Covenants) etcetera and bamboozling yourself with them, lol, unable to separate the chaff from the wheat.

I reiterate, you really need to unlearn what you've learnt and strongly come to believe are true about Enoch, which unfortunately are all wrong and false, lol, due to bad translations, incorrect translatings and bad doctrine(s), lol. Look at you, you cant even explain how you mean that "Chanok ... he was taken up into the heavens and did not see death"

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UceeGod:
God is Omniscient - He knew beforehand that a pandemic is coming
God is Omnipotent - He has the power to prevent or stop the crisis
God is Omnipresent - He is everywhere and very much and ultimately in control

Bottomline: God sometimes allows satan and his agents (including humans) to have their way so long it serves His good and glorious purpose

Liked and concur

Image123:
The three.
God, because He permitted it.
Satan, because it's his job to steal kill and destroy. That's basically what coronavirus is doing.
Man, because the love of money is the root of all evil. For pecuniary gains, some men have been used of the devil to fester this.

Liked and concur

Everything created by God can be perverted, misused and/or abused by Man and the Devil

Finallydead:
Okey dokey

Txs. Meet you there, lol

Finallydead:
Ok but I wonder what we can achieve because I'll have to keep it 30 mins. CYM.

I have waited doing CYM, but nothing in from you. I can wrap it up in 30 mins ...

Finallydead:
@ the bolded, I'm not so sure Mutt will answer those questions and there's a first time for everything, too.

About keeping silent, don't be deterred to freely ask questions on what you don't know and question what you can't accept when presented to you and also express your opinions in a subjective and researchful way rather than argumentatively or stating authoritatively what you can't prove. I'm sure you already know that though.

God bless you.

Sacrifice 30 minutes. Squeeze out 30mins from your busy schedule to be online for a chatroom session. Notice that I have dropped it down from up to one hour. Lets do it now sef, now that you are currently online and even reading as I am seeing you do below.
I've send you a chat room request, so check your email now, for the chatroom invite

MacCantStopMe:
You see how you make a joke of your religion?

Until you know what true and pure religion means, dont continue to use a word you admitted to not having an idea what it is, lol

MacCantStopMe:
The only thing predicted in thise verses is the fact that people will leave the Christian religion.
Which is not even a prediction- people have been leaving religion long before christianity.

Be honest now, did you leave the Christian faith or did you not leave the Christian faith?

MacCantStopMe:
Furthermore, "mocking religion" does not translate to atheism. Even you can see the foolery in stereotyping atheists.

How have I stereotyped? Where did I stereotype? Have you not mocked God? Have you not poke fun and/or ridiculed God?

donnie:
That's a wild boar aka bush pig and antelope

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L71R4lLViR8

donnie:
That wild boar can chase you in the bush and knock you out.

Warthog

donnie:
Only the antelope is a clean animal for Isrealites though.

"⁷You must never eat pigs.
(Because pigs have completely divided hoofs but do not chew their cud, they are also unclean.)
⁸Never eat the meat of these animals or touch their dead bodies. They are unclean for you."
- Leviticus 11:7-8

"³You must not eat any detestable thing.
⁴These are the animals that you may eat:
The ox, the sheep, the goat,
⁵the deer, the gazelle, the roe deer, the wild goat, the ibex, the antelope, and the mountain sheep.
⁶You may eat any animal that has a split hoof divided in two and that chews the cud.
⁷But of those that chew the cud or have a completely divided hoof, you are not to eat the following: ... "
- Deuteronomy 14:3-7

MacCantStopMe:
It is your own interpretation that is right. Out of the many others, which are all based on sparse evidence on the bible.

You got hold of the wrong end of the stick there, saying, it's my own interpretation that is right. Out of the many others, which are all based on sparse evidence on the bible, when the most I've been doing, is, lay down a stick against any stick not straight, placed on the floor, lol and let the sticks speak for themselves, lol.

MacCantStopMe:
Also, the bible didnt predict anything apart from false preachers. But that is a fake prediction given that there have always been false preachers, even during biblical times.

"²so that you may recall the words spoken long ago by the holy Prophets,
and the commandments of our Lord and Saviour given you through your Apostles.
³But, above all, remember that, in the last days,
men will come who make a mock at everything—men governed only by their own passions,
⁴and, asking, "What has become of His promised Return? ...

²I want you to remember the words spoken in the past by the holy prophets
and what the Lord and Savior commanded you through your apostles.
³First, you must understand this: In the last days people who follow their own desires will appear.
These disrespectful people will ridicule [God's promise]
⁴by saying, "What's happened to his promise to return? "
- 2 Peter 3-2-4a

MacCantStopMe:
To ay that the bible predicted atheism is wishful thinking

"Now the Holy Spirit tells us clearly that in the last times some will turn away from the true faith;
they will follow deceptive spirits and teachings that come from demons."
- 1 Timothy 4:1

The Spirit says clearly that in later times some believers will desert the Christian faith.
They will follow spirits that deceive, and they will believe the teachings of demons."
- 1 Timothy 4:1

Its you having the wishful thinking, lol

donnie:
Yup grace... election, all praises to YAH. And by the way, that nkwobi thing... don't start o.... Nkwobi and Abacha. Chai... I miss the East!

When you take your first abacha with a bit of nkwobi meat to swallowfrom the bwl, what did that first abacha and nkwobi cow leg meat do that made you pick out them frist, as being the best or most appropriate of all other alternative part of the bowl to start eating from first, lol. It is the same with Abraham and then later the Jews. Neither deserved the first choice. YAH just chose him and his descendants to be from whom He will bless the whole wide world from, lol. There was nothing special in your first nkwobi choice, same neither with Abraham

donnie:
lol, but even Abraham was limited, remember his blunders too? However, I still will not call that an omission or mistake. You know addressing the Most High or his praise is based on the present inspiration you get. He is too great for any man to completely fathom.

that is why I earlier mentioned that Abraham made a slow but surely progress. It is seven times, YAH has promise and reassure Abraham that He will bless him and his descendants. It got to a point, YAH, had to grab Abraham by the blokos, just to let him know who really owns it, lol, when Abraham and his wife were trying to play a fast one, helping God fulfil His promise about giving them a child, lol.

donnie:
Abraham had ancestors who taught him about YAHUAH. Shem was one of them.

JASHER 9
5 And when Abram came out from the cave, he went to Noah and his son Shem, and he remained with them to learn the instruction of the Elohim and His ways, and no man knew where Abram was, and Abram served Noah and Shem his son for a long time.
6 Abram was in Noah’s house thirty-nine years, and Abram knew Yehovah from three years old, and he went in the ways of Yehovah until the day of his death, as Noah and his son Shem had taught him; and all the sons of the earth in those days greatly transgressed against Yehovah, and they rebelled against him and they served other elohim (lawmakers and judges), and they forgot Yehovah who had created them in the earth;

You, lol, want to go down the apocrypha route hmm, lol? Remember, I earlier said that: "One doesnt, in order to find many hidden truths, necessarily need to chase apochrypha books" Well, its because not many are capable enough to be able to correctly separate the wheat from the chaff of the apocrypha. There are lots of worthless stuff than valuable in apocrypha books, hence why they dont make the 66 canonical books of the bible, lol. Apocrypha books, placed with the safety pin latch off and with an inexperienced plus easily influenced and/or highly impressionable person, will be like handing off a loaded gun to an untrained child, that's fatality, self harm, waiting to happen.

Anyway, I am very pleased that you want to veer into apocrypha, and especially pleased that you brought up Shem too, lol. Just keep this thought safely kept somewhere in the recess of your mind because I would, God willing remind you about your mention of Shem and his connectivity with Abram/Abraham, as he and Noah his father Shem allegedly had taught Abram/Abraham the ways of Yehovah, lol. The contradictions are very glaring in the above quoted Book of Jasher 9:5-6 you advanced and its just testament to the fact why it never made it into the 66, lol.

Anyway, please store in your memory bank for later, in relation to "sons of God", your comment that: "Abraham had ancestors who taught him about YAHUAH. Shem was one of them." because it is true our ancestors, forebears, Africans too had a semblance about what and who YAHUAH is, just as like Abram/Abraham, too did, lol

donnie:
And many refer to Shem and Melchisadeck as one and the same person.

Here is the case for their oneness:
1. The inheritance given to Shem included the land of Salem. Melchizedek appears in scripture as the king of Salem, who reigns over this area.
2. Shem, being the son of Noah with THE SEED, reigned in righteousness and the priesthood came through him. Melchizedek appears on the scene with a title Melchiszedek meaning “king of righteousness.” That is actually the meaning of the name.
3. Shem, therefore, became the great high priest of his day after Noah's passing. Abraham honored the high priest Melchizedek, was blessed by him and paid him tithes.

ETC. look it up for yourself.

"Then Joshua told everyone to listen to this message from the LORD, the God of Israel:
Long ago your ancestors lived on the other side of the Euphrates River, and they worshiped other gods.
This continued until the time of your ancestor Terah and his two sons, Abraham and Nahor."
- Joshua 24:2

My only concern about these your three points is Joshua 24:2, lol, when with Abraham, being a former idolater, an ex-pagan or reformed idol worshipper, lol, God handpicked. So when the Abram/Abraham derail from Shem and Noah's teaching, only to be reintroduced back to God, hmm?

Now please again donnie, give a good effort on giving the exegesis and hermeneutics of Genesis 5:24 and Hebrews 11:5. You really need to unlearn what you've learnt and strongly come to believe are true about Enoch, which unfortunately are all wrong and false, lol, due to bad translations, incorrect translatings and bad doctrine(s), lol.

Bodydialect57:
Okay, thank you.

CYM, lol

Bodydialect57:
Pots and pans l meant, not pants biko.

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No need to be prudish about that.
We all take ours off too

Bodydialect57:
Muttley, CYM.

CYM back dahling

Bodydialect57:
Home is where the heart is Muttley. I know you love adventure, you are free to travel anywhere so far you stay at home during the journey .

I would have loved to clamp my pots and pants, but l am afraid the noise will make me cringe hearing it from my neighbour, lols.

Erm, pots and plates please only, lol.
Not pots and your raunchy sexy lingeries, tongs or g-strings. Ẹjọ ma. Sorry ma
It hasnt yet come to that sort of protest, lol

Bodydialect57:
Stay safe..

Prophetess Bodydialect57, why nah?
How long will I have to travel to stay at home, for, lol, hmm?

Dont forget sha, tomorrow, Saturday the 25th of April at 12:00 noon to clamp your pots and plates together to make a raucous noise