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MacCantStopMe:
ARGUMENT 3 (DAY-3 19/APRIL/20)
THE PARADOX OF OMNISCIENCE

We agree that a "married bachelor" can not exist because it is contradictory and self-refuting. An omniscient God is self-refuting and contradictory.

-Omniscience means knowing all things

If God knows everything, then he can not forget because the moment he forgets, he doesn't know everything. However, if God cant forget, he then doesnt know how to remember or recollect. If he can't recollect. then there is something he doesn't know- he doesnt know how it feels to recollect or remember something.

MacCantStopMe:
Clown. why don't you define pure religion here for us?
You know you'd look silly if you tried.

MacCantStopMe:
Even religious people differ on what pure religion is.
Which is the pure christianity? Catholicism? Pentecostalism? Deeper-life-ism? JW-ism?
Pure religion my black-ass...

seunlayi:
Read the story and be serious, it may be you tomorrow

Acehart:
Your artistic license didn’t only do overtime; it did double overtime, beat the traffic light and hit route 65 at 235mph. I knew you would give me something lengthy to read (that’s why I don’t follow you)

Acehart:
People may say God forced Judas’ hand against Jesus because it was prophesied; and prophecy must be fulfilled. But when I read Jeremiah’s vision of rotten figs, I realize that all sinners (under the right S.T.P. (standard temperature and pressure) ) are Judases. Only one rotten fig had to be picked and the lot fell to Judas.

Acehart:
I’m glad I didn’t bore you guys with something fancy and thoughtless.

Acehart:
It’s nice my conclusion was alright with you and inforesource. Someone I respect a lot said: I can’t hear music for the noise that is on the inside - this was the case with that traitor - the spiritual was playing and all he could hear were his carnal thoughts.

MacCantStopMe:
My first sentence was- secularism not atheism.

Nigeria is far from secular. A half principle is not a principle. Secularism is only half practiced in Nigeria.

First, we have sharia law in the north. Very wrong.
Secondly, we have government that uses state money for religious activities. Are you aware that up till 2015, different state governments were sponsoring pilgrimages? Both Christian and islamic pilgrimages.

Then, we have governors who claim that their state is a christian state. An eastern governor did this. Then, we can talk about the immunity big pastors have where small churches and shops were forcibly closed but no police dared to closed big churches that had full congregations during this epidemic.

Religion is a problem in Nigeria and Africa at large. It is not the biggest problems it is second to only corruption.

MacCantStopMe:
What is this one saying?

Made4naijalove:
Lalasticlala

MacCantStopMe:
Secularism not atheism. Secularism saved Europe from Thoecratic madness of Kings who thought they had the divine right to rule. Also saved them from papal infallibility in politics.

aadoiza:
Secularism does not connote atheism. Nigeria is secular, so the slow pace of development it lack thereof in the country is not in anyway rooted in religion.

Acehart:
Judas Iscariot is referred to as the last of the 12. Judas was the son of Simon, who was called “Iscariot”. The name “Iscariot” means “man of Kerioth”; Kerioth was a small town in Judea about 23 miles south of Jerusalem. Of the 12 disciples of Jesus, he was the only non-Galilean.

The secret to knowing what irked Judas into betraying Christ is the statement Christ made in Simon the leper’s house: “She has come beforehand to anoint My body for burial”.

In the days leading to Jesus’ arrest, Jesus had told His disciples He would lay down His life, that is, He would surrender Himself over to His adversaries. The Gospels show that He predicted His arrest and death about four times.

So, what irked Judas Iscariot to such an extent that he considered betraying His master?

Now, the sentiments making the rounds in Judea, Judas’ homeland, was: Jesus Christ is the Messiah that would deliver Israel from colonialism; He would take the seat of His father, David, and rule Israel (as the scriptures had said); Hence, the great cry: Hosanna! Hosanna! Hosanna! (“Hosanna” the Hebrew word for “save”, “rescue” or “help”) when He made His entry into Jerusalem (on a donkey). Judas’ postulation from the very beginning had been that Christ would become a powerful religious and political leader; and his allegiance with Christ would be of great benefit, materially and politically. (This Judaean, Judas Iscariot, could have been brought up religiously to be familiar with the reading of “The Prophets” regularly in Jerusalem - that the Messiah would come, reign and prosper).

However, in the days leading to Jesus’s arrest, Jesus had greatly limited His miraculous acts and often announced His impending death to His disciples, putting paid to Judas’ ambition; with Jesus’ statement concerning the breaking of the alabaster box of oil by Mary being the straw that broke the camel’s back.

With the prospect of ridicule (in that his kinsmen would shame him for supporting a charlatan) and failure (in that his ambition was thwarted; and rather than return home with a shout of victory, he would return empty-handed and without recompense for his service to Christ) staring him in the face, he disdained Jesus for having wasted three years of his life; and he headed to the council of high priests in a move to save face - to be hailed as one who delivered Israel from a pretender and return home in riches.

In the quest to protect his image, Judas Iscariot forgot one of life’s important principles: dignity is more important than wealth. Christ would have rewarded him according to His word in Proverbs 22:4: The reward of humility and the fear of the Lord are riches, honor and life; Judas lost all three rewards.
Acehart

inforesource:
He was so disappointed when Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this World". Judas was like what? But I am following you so that I can be made Finance Minister. And now you are talking not of this World?

OK since you said you will be killed let me use that opportunity for small cash. Being that it was already a prophecy in the Bible, devil jumped in and fulfiled his heart desire.

Acehart:
I like the bolded part. I smiled at it. God can fulfill our heart’s desires and Satan can too.

Rozz:
Why do people especially men believes that church ladies should look shabby, unkempt and unattractive and if otherwise then you are a hypocrite, pretender and lot more. Where is it written to be so? looking good is Godly as far as I know or am I getting it wrong?

Sammie1090:
What's your demonination?

Myer:
I see what you did there. Lol deep.

Rozz:
I know too and that's why I didn't reply him

Sammie1090:
It's typo error

MuttleyLaff:
Its disheartening that upon all the schooling you've freely gotten from me, you still havent yet picked on that there is no denomination in the kingdom of Heaven. You still have no idea that God is denomination agnostic, lol

MuttleyLaff:
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Share how your version of the convenient virus sucks and/or makes you feel.

I especially and genuinely feel for my two favourite brothers neighbours. The two know themselves, lol. Dont worry guys, this will sooner than later all blow over. Amen.

MacCantStopMe:
lol.....If I open a thread on Jehovah's Witness, both of you will run. I spent time with people from that cult church.

Maximus69:
ATHEISM is alll about FREETHINKING,
so it's baffling when atheists finds it difficult to let go of people who have chosen their path in life!

MuttleyLaff:
... my middle name is Maverick.

Common sense should tell you this isnt always true and that true human survival and existence has been a function of relying on informed blind faith when confronted with things we cannot prove

You have to be wicked, self centred, have no compasion, no conscience etcetera for you or anyone else for that matter, to be against religion. Not that you know, what true, pure and religion that is without fault is

You can come back for more slam dunks
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rinrin23:
Freethinking is not a cult or religion that you convert to.

Your "already being done" scheme is to subdue people into adopting your self and clan determined "superior" religion.

A freethinker does not think he/she superior, but capable of seeing things from multiple vantage points and thereby gaining unrivaled insight into a matter.
The more you seek (multi and not unidirectional), the more you shall find.

I agree some atheists and freethinkers make noise here just as much as the religionists.

However, what I have been able to observe in my many years of being on this platform is that the silent ones, the ones that force you to think, without prejudice or an underlying motive to convert you, usually are the most enlightened on the matter. And would rather have you reason your way into belief or unbelief as the case may be, by asking questions and dropping hints.

This way you find your own way to enlightenment, as opposed to being told what to do and what to think.

So as for shouting at the rooftops, let's evolve past worshipping the loudest vessel. We know how the saying goes

MuttleyLaff:
Wow, wow, wow.
Am turned into a siren all of a sudden

MacCantStopMe:
Are you a JW?

simonjassy:
This reply is a joke right?. Bros Abeg have a nice day.

GRIMMJOE:
I'm a Christian, praise be to God Almighty.
Forever he reigns. Amen.

simonjassy:
This means the rock loses "immovable" attribute and god was unable to create an immovable rock in the first place, for if the rock was "immovable" god won't be able to move it. Also if god is unable to move it, god loses OMNIPOTENCE. OMNIPOTENCE is a ridiculous notion.

simonjassy:
Then how is the rock "immovable"?.

simonjassy:
if so, can he move the rock?

simonjassy:
Can an omnipotent being create an immovable rock?

Maximus69:
I can't say it better jare, abeg tell your friend to go and find catfish peppersoup with chilled beer to cool his nerves, and forget about religionists!

Maximus69:
That's why i said forget about theists and go live your life, free yourself from carrying other people's thoughts in your head!

GRIMMJOE:
I won't want my comment to be liked by an irrational being.

GRIMMJOE:
Then why didn't all the Igbo's kill each other before Christianity, why didn't all the Hausa's kill each other before Christianity, same with Yoruba, why haven't you kill your family members, do it, God will forgive you.

GRIMMJOE:
Don't bother, you can't even sound stupid at this point.

GRIMMJOE:
Religion has scatter your brain, look at what you're justifying killing of baby's, it OK to kill baby.

Open your ears and listen, whether your a God, Demon, Human it's not OK to kill baby's it's not OK to kill at all, shame on you, shame on you for worshiping this God, no wonder you carry out jungle justice like it's nothing.

You think Pharaoh, Hitler, Terrorist didn't have a reason to killing, you think their reason wasn't good in their eyes.

And Muttleylaff keep liking his comments, your only revealing the type of person you are.

Adakintroy2:
They did kill because they have the fear of the Gods as well not scientific rational.
The laws of there Gods informed their behavior. We are arguing for the existence of God and in God exist logic.

GRIMMJOE:
That's what I'm telling you, God doesn't exist, even if Christianity didn't reach Nigeria, people will still know killing is wrong.

You were making it sound as if without God humans don't know what's right and whats wrong.

MacCantStopMe:
I joined nairaland 8 years ago. That is long time. I must have learned something along the line

MacCantStopMe:
A christian fool at that.

MacCantStopMe:
That saying is flawed. There are pastors today who were armed robbers before.