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jagaban002:
Drug can’t make the world go back to normal only vaccine because they thing has to to network , everywhere you go . You use drug and cure it doesn’t guarantee u can’t have it again and spreed it so I pray there’s a vaccine soon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZnlgNXqVDQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqizB87kkhc

The World Health Organization (WHO) has said that Nigeria has expressed interest to be part of the global solidarity trial of the vaccines being developed to tackle COVID-19 pandemic and efforts are underway to start the process in the country. The Officer in charge, WHO Nigeria and member of the Presidential Task Force (PTF) on COVID-19, Dr. Fiona Braka, said this on Friday in Abuja, at the 24th joint national briefing of the committee. She also said that 89 vaccines are being developed globally, including seven in clinical evaluation and several therapeutics in clinical trials to tackle the COVID-19 pandemic. She said, “Nigeria has also expressed interest to be part of this solidarity trial and efforts are underway to start the process in Nigeria too.”
https://www.nairaland.com/5829868/covid-19-commence-vaccine-trials-nigeria

donnie:
Will you sharrap... Have you finished taking vaccine for malaria which is far more deadlier?

The vaccine is a bio weapon. Medical sorcery (i.e. the use of magic, especially black magic)
https://www.facebook.com/AHigherKnowledge/videos/231817274927704/

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# FREE MUBARAK BALA NOW!
# Shout it from the rooftops

joseph1013:
I like Indabosky Pahoos for one thing...

He's open about his charlatanism and stupidities associated with con artists.

He dances to secular lewd-lyricsed songs, chants incantations like a herbalist and sprays money like drug barons.

He is a charlatan. He knows it. His followers also know it.

He doesn't try to be a wolf in sheep's clothing which is common with many fraudulent men in the same trade. It's really an unknown style of creating cult followership.

He swims against the tide and is coasting home nicely.
He comes clean with tomfoolery.

He's like "if you can afford to trade your brain for fecal matter...come follow me ..." lol

Surprisingly enough, he has "genuine" followers.

That tells you how desperate people are about believing in something.

The vacuum must be filled.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJHX7X_lhfA
Are you deliberately bastardising his names or you just distorted the name to avoid people directly detecting its him you're referring to, lol?

Liquid metal in 2016. Indaboski bahose in 2017. Inda boski dahosa/indaboski daosa? in 2018. Inda boski kapache, baloskicalabash etcetera, lol

# FREE MUBARAK BALA NOW!
# Shout it from the rooftops

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The arrest of popular humanist, Mubarak Bala on Tuesday in Kaduna for allegedly insulting Prophet Mohammed is presently generating controversy on social media.

Bala, who is the President of Humanist Association of Nigeria (HAN), was said to have been arrested by plain-cloth policemen over a Facebook post.

He was allegedly arrested after a group of lawyers led by one S.S. Umar reported his alleged blasphemous post to the Kano State Commissioner of Police.

Chairman, HAN Board of Trustees, Leo Igwe confirmed the arrest in a statement, saying security agents picked him up at his residence and detained him at Gbabasawa Police Station in Kaduna.

“All of us at the Humanist Association of Nigeria are deeply worried by the arrest and detention of our president, Mubarak Bala.

“Mubarak Bala will likely be handed over to the Kano State Police Command, that will prosecute him for blasphemy, a crime that caries a death sentence under sharia law,” the statement read in part.
https://www.herald.ng/social-media-on-fire-as-police-arrest-popular-humanist-for-alleged-blasphemy-in-kaduna/

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Poco, pocohantas you see what your savage educated brethren and that assassin are up to with Mubarak Bala, hmm?

FREE MUBARAK BALA NOW!
Shout it from the rooftops
cc: pervertprophet, kkins25, joseph1013

kkins25:
hmm, awon slay king. Eku ishe

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Max respect to all our bae, lol
(i.e. before anyone else)
Dedicated to all our slay mamas, lol

Xammie001:
Ikorodu

There are No Normal People There,Help them Wahala,Go Against Them Ijogbon
Bad Choice of Location
But I guess you have Learnt your Lesson

I remember back in the day, when land was going for 200-250K in ikorodu, my other younger brother, reached out to me asking, if I am interested in getting some, as he is about to get 2 plots. I answered back in the negative, saying nah, then asked him those building real estate in VI, Ikoyi, Lekki, Banana etcetera are they two headed, are they special different human beings than us ni, lol, but anyway, we thank God, for His faithfulness, grace, loving-kindness, sweetness, goodness, and blessings, lol

kkins25:
If not that you have a good dealer of igbo, how would you be christ like and endorse one man ripping the ass of another, feeding his intestines with chromosomes and ovum piercing proteins huh! We might have the same dealer after all, my dear padi.. Hahahh

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This bounty hunter sef, lol
You've tracked me down here too, lol
Igbolabi, lol.

PervertProphet:
Me too. I pray that Trump wins. The other day I watched Bill Maher who claims to be a Comedian who always act like he is funny especially when he has his audience that laughs to each and every of his stale jokes. This time around. No audience due to Covid-19 lock-down and he tried doing the usual Liberal tactics and use of Argumentum ad Hominem on Dan Crenshaw as per their usual all day hate of Trump and Dan Crenshaw used higher Intelligence dismantling all his attacks. There was no paid audience to appluad his hate of Trump. Dan Crenshaw "massacred" him in that interview they both had. Not in an abusive way but in a very matured way.

He was turned a laughing stock as the video went viral in the US.

Hey bro? Have you the link of the vid please?

pocohantas:
Lol. The woman though. She is actually a very smart and eloquent one. She said the definition would be determined by the environment.
Very true.

Another lady you should put in your bucket list to go check out is Professor Sophie 'Bosede Oluwole. She sadly is RIP now. Go YouTube her, she is a philosopher, lol. Nigeria's first female doctorate holder in Philosophy.

pocohantas:
What they don’t understand, they fear,
And what they fear, they seek to destroy.

Case in point. Infanticide. Killing of twin babies in SE until Scottish missionary Mary Slessor put an end to that "madness".

mistarsam:
If you maintain that it's the spirit and not the physical body that suffers in hell, can I make an inference that the fire (hell) is also a spiritual one unlike what the religious books have made us believe for a long time?

jared007:
it's celestial in nature. In other words it has power to affect both physical and spiritual. It means u could get there with ur physical body and it has a geographical location beneath the Earth's surface.

I once read a woman, I think Vanna Bonta RIP, is her name, who said:
"The body knows no pain, not like the soul. At least a nerve has limits, a body part a name. But the soul... the soul... There is no bandage ..."

So, brethren, lol, the fact of the matter, is that pain can be felt with or without physical impulses or bodily mechanisms to convey the pain message because pain, originally is an image of something else, that is not physical, lol or it is an image of something else that cant be felt with physical/bodily mechanisms, lol. You dont need to have a body, in the afterlife, in the abode of the dead, in order to feel pain or want relief from heat of the blazing flame etcetera (i.e. Luke 16:24)

mistarsam:
What do you mean by 'Dead on Arrival (DOA)'?

I mean DOA, exactly how I earlier said it, that your ideological construct is completely wrong, lol.

"Hell" is not an end all. It is a transit and holding place, lol.the ultimate and/or final destination is, the lake of fire, for death, "hell," the devil, the devil's angels and of course damned souls

mistarsam:
IF WE CAN'T USE OUR BRAIN TO DECIPHER THINGS, (WHETHER THEY ARE OF RELIGIOUS SUBSTANCE OR NOT DOESN'T MATTER), OF WHAT USE IS IT THEN? It's just a matter of careful thinking cos the religious books have not been able to provide clear-cut answers to these questions.

"And the devil, the one deceiving them, was cast into the lake of fire and of sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet also are; and they will be tormented day and night to the ages of the ages."
- Revelation 20:10

"Then Death and Hades (i.e. Sheol aka the world of the dead) were thrown into the Lake of fire;
this is the Second Death--the Lake of fire"
- Revelation 20:14

Dont get all wound up and tying up your knickers in a knot. Why the shouting sef, lol?. What you raised is not a religious substance, it is a spirituality issue. Both arent neccesarily the same thing, so it does matter, lol.

mistarsam:
If you maintain that it's the spirit and not the physical body that suffers in hell, can I make an inference that the fire (hell) is also a spiritual one unlike what the religious books have made us believe for a long time?

mistarsam, remember that you asked: "Who feels the 'pains' of being condemned to Hell? The sinner Or God?" Well, I can confidently tell you that, Jesus said: "I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents"

Read my reply to jared007, it'll helps with getting a proper grip of the differences of the body, soul and spirit mistarsam, lol.

mistarsam:
I've been curious for quite a while about the subject matter. I would really love to get some straight forward and intellectual insights, not some bunch of emotional point of views, about the following questions:

In the Muslim/Christian world, it is believed that Hell (fire) is the ultimate destination for 'sinners' (those who do not live in accordance with the instructions contained in the Quran/Holy Bible).

(a) Of what benefit is condemning a sinner to hell when the [/b]sinner does not feel the pains of this punishment in the physical body?[b]

(b) Related to (a) is the issue of misuse of creative energy.

[/b]Wouldn't it amount to a waste of creative energy[b] by God if after spending several hours/days/weeks to perfect the 'architecture' of Hell, the punishment doesn't have any tangible effect on the sinner, neither does it serve as a deterrent for intending sinners?

(c) From the deductions obtained from the above, can it be said that the [/b]"creation of Hell was a worthy investment of time and resources"[b] by the Almighty?

P.S These are genuine questions I would really love to have answers to, not an attack on the two religions referred to in this post.

jared007:
I was surprised they haven't answered ur questions Mistarsam

Why should you be surprised they haven't answered Mistarsam questions, when all he did was present an ideological construct that was DOA

jared007:
A persons spiritual body is the one that gets burnt in hell not physical. The spiritual body is actually more sensitive than the physical..

When a person draws their last breath, the spirit returns back to its Owner, God. The body begin to biodegrade and eventually returns to dust. The soul goes to a holding place, awaiting judgment, lol, there are two specified locations for this hold place, lol

jared007:
The torments of hell includes:
torture from demons, fiery worms, hunger, thirst, sickness, smell, darkness, bondage, ever dieing without dieing, fire etc.

With all due respect jared007, the only biblical truth in your comment is thirst. The rest are just conjecture and/or guesswork. Read the two immediate next below mentions of mine, to get/have a better handle on Sheol (i.e. original Jewish concept of abode of the dead), aka Gehenna (i.e. Jerusalem outskirts hill incinerator waste/rubbish dump site), aka Hell (i.e. Greek mythology influence)

MuttleyLaff:
Hell or better put, Hades, actually is a Greek concept, the Jews have no concept of Hell or Hades
they have "Sheol" alright, but the concept of Hell or Hades, is actually a Greek one.

Sheol, is more of a proper and real biblical Israelite concept of where the dead are ''interned.'' Sheol in an oversimplified or elementary manner, can be grave or has been referred as grave

Grave/tomb/sepulchre sites are merely places of deposit for a corpse. Sheol is the realm of the dead or departed souls
- Souls do not linger in the air. Souls do not stay in limbo. Souls do not hang about. Souls do not make revisits

Until Jesus in the NT, Sheol in general, without necessarily distinguishing between righteous or unrighteous souls, has been regarded to be the realm of the dead or abode of the dead

We have verses in OT (e.g. Psalm 9:17 etcetera) suggesting that the wicked go to Sheol but it was Jesus in the NT that brought things into perspective when He shared the hyperbolic illustration of Sheol with the story of the Rich Man being elsewhere and Abraham with the Poor Man being on a different side. Remember that, just like because you're telling a joke, it doesnt necessarily mean, the joke is devoid of some element of truth and reality so is the case with the parable of the rich man and poor man.

Sheol (i.e. the original Hebrew concept of afterlife) now has gray lines shared with Gehenna (i.e. the refuse dump in Jerusalem hyperbolically referred to by Jesus in Matthew 5:29 Matthew 18:9 and Mark 9:47) and Hell (i.e. a Greek mythology and Greek concept of afterlife) which arent really understood. The etymology of afterlife from a Jewish concept (i.e. Sheol, with 2 sections) has changed over time and Sheol, since, has being interchangeably replaced with Gehenna and Hell/Hades

Reiterating, hell which has become synonymous with Hades, is neither Hebrew or Greek in origin

Sheol is, what you'll find in the original Hebrew text for any word for Hell. In other places, Hades or Hell was the Greek substitution for the part of Sheol where the Rich man is from the Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus

As a matter of fact, Hell, actually finds it roots in the classic Greek mythology, Hades, where Hades interestingly and actually, was the ancient Greek god of the underworld. This god's name (i.e. Hades) later turned to mean the place or abode of the dead, which actually is exactly what Sheol is, what is signifies or represents.

Talking of Gehenna, well, it is a valley, a valley in Jerusalem, used as a dumping refuse site and so was used by Jesus to depict the Lake of fire (i.e. it is a place of destruction, as in, via incineration, a place for destroying things)

As earlier mentioned, Gehenna was the incinerating refuse dump in Jerusalem. Hades however, historically and originally is the name of a Greek god until it got turned to meaning the place or abode of the dead. It later got interchanged with hell, which is from a German word root. It was bible translators who were substituing the original Hebrew word Sheol (i.e. the part where the dead of the Rich man sort are), with Greek counterparts Hades/Hell that made hell stick with us today

Death, is not a physical person but it will cease to exist because it will be destroyed when figuratively thrown into a physical lake of fire

MuttleyLaff:
"Then he will say also to those who are at his left,
'Depart from me, you cursed ones, into eternal fire, that which was prepared for The Devil and for his Angels."
- Matthew 25:41

"And if your hand should cause you to stumble, cut it off;
it is better for you to enter into life crippled,
than having two hands to go away into Gehenna, into the unquenchable fire."
- Mark 9:43

"But I will show you whom you should fear:
Fear the One who has authority, after the killing, to cast into Gehenna.
Yes, I say to you, fear Him."
- Luke 12:5

The eternal fire, which some take as meaning hell, was not originally created for man, which explains why it's existence is not mentioned in any of the creation six days, but obviously it was created sometime after the Devil and his angels' rebellion and before the rebellion of Adam and Eve.

If you know, you know. Who no know, no go know

Hell, is not really a Jewish/Hebraic concept, but its more of a Greek mythology concept, and it is like a dumpster, landfill site and/or refuse tip site. Hell, has the sense of Gehenna, the garbage dump site for the biblical city of Jerusalem, where fires burned continually to destroy the garbage, abandoned and disused stuff.

Hell, in that light, is in fact, a destination place of the evil and/or morally wrong, like those who get involved in quick money making practice ritualist(s) etcetera, for an example.

jared007:
If you haven't received Jesus Christ pls do so.

"God says, "At the right time I heard you.
On the day of salvation I helped you.
" Listen, now is God's acceptable time! Now is the day of salvation!"
- 2 Corinthians 6:2

I second this, that if you haven't received Jesus Christ to please do so.

pocohantas:
I will read about her. I like to see women like her.
She said the basic truth about survival. I wonder how long we would continue the blame game.
Thanks for the educating link. People like you are always late to the party, why?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_gJwy9yjrk
Poco, hi, you'll like this one. I can relate to what she says here, that a feminist isnt nececessarily a female, lol. I wont say more, I'll let you watch it, as I dont want spoiler alert for you, except say, I countless times have been falsely accused of being gay, just because I stand up for the rights of adult mutually consenting to monogamous same sex attraction until death do them part relationship marked with loyalty, warmth, love and fidelity to each other
cc: eni4real

jared007:
Don't mind him. It's what most men do today. They get easily seduced by women without objections.

Women, God's own pièce de résistance, lol, in the west, there's a colloquial that goes like "igbehin latayo, nma ta" loosely translated means, "the maestro saves his ace for the end of a game"

God's masterpiece, the curves, the rounds, the bends, the arcs, the figure eight, the muliebrity, the cerebral etcetera, women, can't live with them, can't live without them. God thank you for all females, our women.

jared007:
sweetmouth na their nature. Remember how Eve was tempted with food in the garden.

Remember Adam dey by her side nah and hin no talk make she no eat. Hin just standa bin dey look her

TheExecutioner:
h t tps://youtu.be/2nbJ7hSBfrg

jared007:
Women and sweetmouth food. These items are like the ones seen with that Nigerian lady caught last month at Wilmark.

This one looks like it's in Tescos.

They arent hungry. They stealing to feed their craving for chocolates. They have a sweet tooth, lol. I dont know what the small bunch of onions is for they stole too, lol

pocohantas:
I will read about her. I like to see women like her. She said the basic truth about survival. I wonder how long we would continue the blame game. Thanks for the educating link. People like you are always late to the party, why?

She is an unapologetic socialist and anti-imperialist.

You are even lucky I joined because I hardly comment on pages I dont feature on from word go ground zero, to give and take, second page, lol. The only reason I scrapped that, was reading yours and dominique's input, which were intriguing so why I jumped in, lol.

Tbh, I don't take too kindly to market places with its too many speculators lol. When I get too late to a party like yours here, when it's already on or past page two, I often just pedestrianise and not participate lol.

eni4real:
Her response is quite in-depth!

pocohantas:
Very and her diction is sweet!!!

That was in 1987, She is now elderly now, I think possibly in her late 70s or early 80s. She is a writer, like them Soyinka, Achebe, Saro-Wiwa etcetera

eni4real:
The video is unavailable.

I've already pasted an available one sir speedy Gonzales, lol

pocohantas:
Lol. It was actually sarcasm and a rhetorical question too. I am not a psychic, but there are people with that grace here. I get your point though and I hope our psychics get it too.

I get your now, lol

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pocohantas:
Even UNICEF and WHO would soon sell Africa off to the west. There is always a motive o, be very careful!

Nne ehn, the thing in the mind of the average Nigerian is how to eat and stay alive. I was just discussing this with my friend now. How else do you explain that someone shared mosquito nets to a malaria infested community and they used it to cover their crops?

pocohantas:
It actually happened in this Nigeria.

eni4real:
Haaa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhK-wo7zXk0

The above video clip is of Professor Ama Ata Aidoo, former Ghana Minister of Education under the Jerry Rawlings administration, watch if you want to, starting at the 0.37 minute mark, and listen to what she had to say about the blame game and foreign aid. She said something poignant, in the line of "We cant blame others for our difficult, unpleasant, or embarrassing situation but ourselves"

Interviewer:
Well if this is your impression, do you think that you can ever forgive us?

Professor Ama Ata Aidoo:
It is not a question of forgiveness. I have nothing against you. My point is that you did and you are doing for your survival, what is necessary. We can't blame you for that. The fact that we are not. We didn't do enough for our own survival and we are still not doing enough for yourself, that is not your problem. You know even though, the dirt, even everybody that God has created has a sense of survivor. You know and until we. If we don't develop it, we can't blame white people. You came here because you needed these things. You took gunpowder from the Chinese. You needed them to shoot people.

Interviewer:
Do you consider aids as a new form of colonisation?

Professor Ama Ata Aidoo:
OF COURSE (then smiling and swinging in her chair with a broader smile)

Interviewer:
Why?

Professor Ama Ata Aidoo:
Why? (disappeared smile but now shocked and not pleased being asked why)

eni4real or pocohantas, yeah, I think that mosquito nets fiasco thing, happened in the North with them Almajiris and the feudal lords

pocohantas:
Lol. It was actually sarcasm and a rhetorical question too. I am not a psychic, but there are people with that grace here. I get your point though and I hope our psychics get it too.

I get your now, lol

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pocohantas:
Even UNICEF and WHO would soon sell Africa off to the west. There is always a motive o, be very careful!

Nne ehn, the thing in the mind of the average Nigerian is how to eat and stay alive. I was just discussing this with my friend now. How else do you explain that someone shared mosquito nets to a malaria infested community and they used it to cover their crops?

pocohantas:
It actually happened in this Nigeria.

eni4real:
Haaa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhK-wo7zXk0

The above video clip is of Professor Ama Ata Aidoo, former Ghana Minister of Education under the Jerry Rawlings administration, watch if you want to, starting at the 0.37 minute mark, and listen to what she had to say about the blame game and foreign aid. She said something poignant, in the line of "We cant blame others for our difficult, unpleasant, or embarrassing situation but ourselves"

Interviewer:
Well if this is your impression, do you think that you can ever forgive us?

Professor Ama Ata Aidoo:
It is not a question of forgiveness. I have nothing against you. My point is that you did and you are doing for your survival, what is necessary. We can't blame you for that. The fact that we are not. We didn't do enough for our own survival and we are still not doing enough for yourself, that is not your problem. You know even though, the dirt, even everybody that God has created has a sense of survivor. You know and until we. If we don't develop it, we can't blame white people. You came here because you needed these things. You took gunpowder from the Chinese. You needed them to shoot people.

Interviewer:
Do you consider aids as a new form of colonisation?

Professor Ama Ata Aidoo:
OF COURSE (then smiling and swinging in her chair with a broader smile)

Interviewer:
Why?

Professor Ama Ata Aidoo:
Why? (disappeared smile but now shocked and not pleased being asked why)



Yeah, I think that happened in the North with them Almajiris and the feudal lords

pocohantas:
The theory here is, if everyone is giving their family, there would be no one for people like this woman to use for clout.

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What's, woman to use for clout, about?

So you guys have all of sudden become glorified psychics, hmm? You actually can read people's mind. You can see their thought and know the reason why they go out of their ways, comfort zones, peace and traquility of their homes to face and feed "sharks" hmm?

Not everyone is able to give their family. Some families dont have anyone in their families to fend for themselves talkless capable of giving to their families, relations or relatives.

pocohantas:
I like to think the needy in our circle would never get exhausted,
so they can be lifetime beneficiaries of our individual giveaways.

"You will always have the poor among you..."
- Matthew 26:11a

"You will always have the poor with you
and can help them whenever you want...."
- Mark 14:7a

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pocohantas:
Lol. Have you encountered them?
I wonder where their relatives are.

MuttleyLaff:
Of course, everyone takes care of their families first before drifting out to others, only an exhibitionist or pretentious person with false attitude(s) wouldnt

Who if/when in Naija hasnt encountered them?. Of course, I've had unsavoury memories and it's no lol matter

I recall encountering them at MMIA, one tout trolley handler without giving us change back, abandoned his trolley with us disappeared into thin air, whilst we weren't looking, with our ₦500 or was it ₦1000 banknote sef. Another encounter was, at Lagos Island, actually right inside Oluwole car park, whilst trying to find a place to park and then let my missus and her sister get out to walk the rest to Balogun Market for getting a couple of Brazillian hair etcetera. They buy in boxes, stock up and share among themselves as in meaning with other sisters

pocohantas:
They are everywhere, especially for Lagos. I know people that will say they can never go to 85% of the mainland, lol.

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Why the question in the first place?
If you know they are everywhere, especially for Lagos, why ask me if I have encountered them then?
Or was it a rhetorical question ni, lol?

Bodydialect57:
³ And said unto him, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and come into the land which, I shall show thee.
⁴ Then came he out of the land of the Chaldeans, and dwelt in Haran: and from thence, when his father was dead, he removed him into this land, wherein, ye now dwell.
⁵ And He gave him none inheritance in it, no, not so much as to set his foot on:, yet He promised that he would give it to him for a possession, and to his seed after him, when as yet he had no child.
⁶ And God spake on this wise, That his seed should sojourn in a strange land; and that they should bring them into bondage, and entreat them evil four hundred years.
⁷ And the nation to whom they shall be in bondage will I judge, said God:
and after that shall they come forth, and serve me in this place.
- Acts 7:3-7.

Perhaps you should read again Stephen's speech in Acts 7 for a clearer understanding.

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Gbam. Gbamer. Gbamest.

donnie:
Seriously? Grasping at straws now? Of course, I am not trying to prove the 400 years prophecy with that chart, when I already know which slavery it is referring to. The folks who made that yellow chart believe the lies of Ashkenazi and Zionists, so they, like you, are trying hard to find 400 years affliction in physical Egypt which is impossible. I used the chart just to show you that Israel couldn't have been enslaved or afflicted in Egypt for more than 80-85 years.

You are saying the Scripture is lying, hmm? That the utterances of YAH are lies, right?. That When YAH said 400 years, it actually means 80-85 years right, huh?

donnie:
I told you I don't expect you to confess your lies or mistakes, you are not that type.
All I am saying is Gen 15:13 is not referring to physical Egypt,
[s]but to spiritual Egypt/ Babylon (United States). That's all.[/s]
Egypt (Heb: Mizraim) also means bondage.

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Gen 15:13 is crystal clear nah.

"The Lord will bring a nation from far away, from the end of the earth,
to swoop down on you like an eagle,
a nation whose language you do not understand"
- Deuteronomy 28:49

Where did you learn that Gen 15:13 is not referring to physical Egypt, but to spiritual Egypt/Babylon (United States), hmm?
So what if Egypt (Heb: Mizraim) also means bondage. Pftt. It doesnt take anything away from the fact that the Israelites were enslaved in Egypt for 400 years

You're busy, doing as usual, your wuruwuru to the answer with trying to rope in the United States disgusing it as Babylon, lol, after camouflaging as something spiritual, lol. Kolewerk my friend, lol. Cant and wont work here donnie. Note that, an aquila (Latin for ''eagle'') was a powerful symbol used in ancient Rome and especially as the standard of a Roman legion. The silver eagle was the ensign of the Roman Legion and the symbol of its power. A legionary known as an aquilifer, the "eagle-bearer", carries this standard, he would carry the aquila (eagle) into battle. If the eagle was captured the legion would disband. The bald eagle was chosen as the emblem of the United States of America, in June 20, 1782, meanwhile the transatlantic slave trade began during the 15th century and to the Americas from the 16th to the 19th century, so please donnie, dont with your dishonest manoeuvring, unclothe Peter (i.e. Egypt) to clothe Paul (i.e. United States), lol.

donnie:
Deuteronomy 68
And YAHUAH shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee,
Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.

"The LORD will return you to Egypt in ships by a route that I said you should never see again.
There you will sell yourselves to your enemies as male and female slaves, but no one will buy you.”"
- Deuteronomy 28:68

This verse is Deuteronomy 28:68 and not as you put it, Deuteronomy 68. Deuteronomy doesnt reach chapter 68. It ends at Deuteronomy chapter 34, lol. There isn't anything such as Deuteronomy 68 donnie.

Anyway, the whole Deuteronomy almost is about the contract details agreed between God and the Israelites. The curses of Deuteronomy 28:68 is no exception. It was agreed upon after the Israelites 400 bitter enslavement at Egypt. It was after the Egypt aftermath, and in there what Moshe talked about, did because of their disobedience, eventually did exactly like that happen to the Israelites. In 70-72 AD, Emperor Vespasian and his succesor Titus, shipped the Israelites, as slaves, to Rome, to get build the Roman Colosseum etcetera, as a gift to the Roman people. They never, to date, saw Jerusalem again. Josephus, the historian, even recorded this and confirmed that this was exactly what was done with many of the Jews by Titus especially.

After the Fall of the Second Temple (70 CE)
Josephus reports:
#... Of the rest, those who were over seventeen he put in chains and sent to hard labor in Egypt while greet numbers were presented by Titus to the provinces to perish in the theaters by sword or by wild beasts; those under seventeen were sold.# Josephus,
- "The Jewish Wars"; Book vi 9:2.

Munter -- Roman Historian
# Now that Betar had been captured, everything came under Human control, while Palestine [Judah] was reduced to a desolate mound. Captives were sold into slavery in numbers too great to count. First they were brought to the grand annual market at the Terebinth-Eloh tree in Hebron, or in the words of Hyranumous, to the Tent-Ohel of Abraham near Hebron. Each slave sold for the price of a horse. Those captives who were not sold there were brought to the market place in Azza [Gaza] which, because of the great multitudes of slaves who were sold there, was called Hadrian's market place. And those who were still not sold there were herded into ships and were taken to Egypt. Many died in transit, whether by starvation or by shipwreck, while many also were killed by cruel masters.
- Munter, Primordia Eccl. Africanae, pp. 85f.,113.

# The toll of the Bar Kochba uprising was devastating both on the population and on the places of habitation.
The numbers of dead were awesome, while multitudes of Jews were taken captive to fill the slave markets near and far.
The slave market of the Terebinth of Hebron was particuIarly famous as a center where Jewish slaves, sent into captivity by Hadrian (i.e. Hadrian was Roman emperor) were sold.
So many Jewish slaves were available that, recording to one report, a Jew was sold for as little as the price of a portion of horse feed. #
- History of Am Yisrael in Ancient Days (Hebrew, Devir), 1971, p.321.

donnie, the above first quote was by an authentic Jew and the second one was by a Roman citizen, none by any Ashkenazi Jew impostor brothers of yours.

So, donnie, where, is this Acts 7:7's "... in this place"?
What's the location donnie, for in the end they will come out and worship Me here, in this place? What is "... in this place"? Where donnie, is "... in this place" lol?

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pocohantas:
I do hope everyone in such acts change. I picked something from his message and I will begin to apply it in my daily dealings with people. I like to think everyone has a family and I hope everyone takes care of their own henceforth.

Of course, everyone takes care of their families first before drifting out to others, only an exhibitionist or pretentious person with false attitude(s) wouldnt

pocohantas:
Lol. Have you encountered them?
I wonder where their relatives are.

Who if/when in Naija hasnt encountered them?. Of course, I've had unsavoury memories and it's no lol matter

I recall encountering them at MMIA, one tout trolley handler without giving us change back, abandoned his trolley with us disappeared into thin air, whilst we weren't looking, with our ₦500 or was it ₦1000 banknote sef. Another encounter was, at Lagos Island, actually right inside Oluwole car park, whilst trying to find a place to park and then let my missus and her sister get out to walk the rest to Balogun Market for getting a couple of Brazillian hair etcetera. They buy in boxes, stock up and share among themselves as in meaning with other sisters

dominique:
Meaning if the items were not relief materials but goods to be sold, that's how they would have looted everything. Most annoying is how smart they must be feeling with this shameless act. This is not poverty but sheer greed, vileness and backwardness. Poverty should not make you stupid.

They arent backward. These are 21st century human beings living in an advanced world, who can be described in one best qualifying word: evilness or evil-minded

pocohantas:
You get it sis. The gap between the rich and the poor is too much and we would soon be faced with a very dangerous situation.

Last week I noticed lots of young men begging on the streets of Lekki. I was about dismissing it as lockdown situation, but my security man told me not to encounter them at night. They metamorphose from needy beggars to intimidating looters. As in, they block your car and collect whatever they want or whatever you willingly give. Whichever comes first and is better. Something is wrong with my country people.

Collect forcibly, by hook or by crook, whatever you're unwilling to give

donnie:
According to your criminally inspired chart...
1872- children of Israel in Egypt began
1842- 400 years affliction began
1801- Joseph 110 years old, which is the age he died (Genesis 50)
1442- The exodus

You are saying...
-30 years after their arrival in Egypt, affliction begins in 1842.
-Affliction begins 41 years before Joseph dies at the age of 110 in year 1801.
-Then 1442 is the Exodus.

Those who designed the chart simply counted backward from the generally accepted 1442 date for the Exodus but failed woefully to make the line of events fit into the 400-year prophecy.

Genesis 15:13
[13]And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs,
and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years;

According to your chart, 400 years of affliction began while Joseph was still alive. But according to the scripture, Joseph and all in his generation had died and the children of Israel were fruitful, increased abundantly, multiplied, and waxed exceedingly mighty, ever before affliction began.

Exodus 1:6-11
[6]And Joseph died, and all his brethren, and all that generation.
[7]And the children of Israel were fruitful, and increased abundantly, and multiplied, and waxed exceeding mighty; and the land was filled with them.
[8]Now there arose up a new king over Egypt, which knew not Joseph.
[9]And he said unto his people, Behold, the people of the children of Israel are more and mightier than we:
[10]Come on, let us deal wisely with them; lest they multiply, and it come to pass, that, when there falleth out any war, they join also unto our enemies, and fight against us, and so get them up out of the land.
[11]Therefore they did set over them taskmasters to afflict them with their burdens.
And they built for Pharaoh treasure cities, Pithom and Raamses.

This false chart is simply a fabrication of the criminally minded Ashkenazi Jews or Christian zionists who are still fighting to deny the fact that the prophecy of Genesis 15:13 is actually referring to the black negros of the tribe of Judah, scattered around the world and sent to the United States of America (Mystery Babylon) from the year 1619.

The trigger for their judgment is the awakening the true Israelites. When Israel awakes and returns to the commandments of YAH, judgement falls. This is what they try to avert. But they have failed and the judgment has been set.

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Genesis 15:13
And he said unto Abram,
Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs,
and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years;

So, the Bible hub timeline link too (i.e. Bible Timeline: Complete Biblical Timeline) is designed by your fellow impostors, your brothers in crime, the Ashkenazi Jews too abi? You are not better than the Ashkenazi Jews stealing land from the Palestinian people, when you too, are busy trying hard at stealing someone else a, group of people's identity.

You have a big problem with understanding Genesis 15:13, which is why in that your rubbish chart, you're including the travel through the wilderness to the Promised Land Canaan, as part of the whole prophesied 400 years spent in Egypt. Who were the Israelites enslaved to, in the wilderness to Canaan, that you have to include their travel through the wilderness in your enslavement years calculation. Smh
The Israelites only spent 40 years travelling from Egypt to Canaan, so donnie what is that rubbish 215 years doing in that your stupid chart, hmm?

Where are you from? What part of the world exactly on earth are you from? Show me a map where originally from on earth you've at all all been before, lol. Listen I'll expose your yansh, if you dont crawl back to the hole and gutter you came out from

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donnie:
My intention really isn't to get you to own up to your lies or miatakes.
Your type never will. At least you have been exposed.

[img]https://s6/images/timelineslavery.jpg[/img]
Rough guide with +/- slight offmarks

Your intention should be to stop acting dense because I havent hidden anything. I have laid everything wide open and face up.

I have shown the additions, subtractions and calculations. Its not my problem that you bunked off arithmetic classes in school. Now its come back to bite you in the arse and now you wished you hadn't.

Listen go get junior, master lil' donnie, king tomorrow, to come help daddy donnie with understanding all this and particularly with the sums and difference calculations.

Everything has gone over your head, swoosh, like as if a high flying Naija Airforce jet plane fighter. Smh.

You seem to have missed this, as you keep asking me where did I find the dates. Smh. Anyway, so I'll repeat it here again for you. Now donnie, go gently and click on the below link, lol. OK?

The biblehub link below, has all the dates timeline displaying the list of bible events in chronological order. Of course donnie, it includes dates of Joseph's death in 1806 BC, the birth and adoption of Moses in 1526 BC, end of slavery in 1446 BC etcetera, lol
Bible Timeline: Complete Biblical Timeline
https://biblehub.com/timeline/

Everything deh deh deh, lol
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donnie:
Where did you find all those dates you're adding and subtracting? You're a fraud.

Simple question you're dodging. Show me the lives and events that reveal 400 years between Joseph's death and Moses' birth.

The same way you found all those maps with dates on them you've been pasting upandan the place you no gree make pesin hear word.

It is the same place that states that Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 AD, leaving no stone standing. This of course, I know you dont dispute, but now, seeing the truth in plain sight, has become a bitter pill for you to swallow