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Ishilove:
A female has no business playing Jesus. He was a MAN! Enough of all these political correctness or whatever it is they are calling these abominations.

Ishilove, you havent read the memo that the woman has been absolved by Jesus. God did, lol, when Jesus asked: "Woman, where are your accusers, Where are they? Is there no one left to condemn you?" She said, "No one, Lord." and Jesus then said, "I do not condemn you, either. Go. From now on sin no more."

So, why if after 2000 years of that, women are still having a hard time, no prize for guessing right who's to blame, defo not God, lol

OLAADEGBU:
Are you saying that the drama is a true representation of the biblical account?

it is what it is, a musical opera/pantomime. Chew the straws, but spit out the sticks

OLAADEGBU:
Do you really believe Jesus Christ is a Superstar?

If the Magi thought so and even blessed with Him three precious gifts, why shouldnt I, hmm? Dont you believe He is a Superstar, He is a MVP, hmm?

OLAADEGBU:
There's nothing wrong if a black man plays the role of Jesus because we know Jesus was not Caucasian there is another Jesus' film coming out soon where Michael Jackson's daughter is playing the role of Jesus Christ. I guess that should be inspiring to watch.

If Moses, after noticing, didnt out of curiosity turn around and go investigate a bush on flames but not burning up, only God knows what would have happened next.

Ishilove:
Why will a female play the role of the Messiah?

It is time for a female to?

Ishilove:
Video is unavailable.

Yeah, I too got that invited sign message when I tried a few days ago, (i.e. Private video. Sign in if you've been granted access to this video) thats why I thanked budaatum dahling for this alternative option and I must tell you, I am right now, enjoying watching it.

Particularly enjoyed how Rik Mayall acted, played and dramatised the role of King Herod fantastically well in it

OLAADEGBU:
All I need to know is the title of the movie. That says it all.

Jesus Christ Superstar

OLAADEGBU:
God eventually has the last laugh on all those who took delight in mocking Him.

No one is mocking anywhere, what they brilliantly, artistically, dramatically and creatively did in the Jesus Broadway, is exactly what happened in the Bible narratives.

Has funny, dramatic, emotional, tearful, sombre, dark, ugly, smiling, happy, sad, goading, teasing, tempting, praising etcetera moments in it

LordReed:
Ok gonna give this one to you even though it is doesn't absolutely fit the criteria. I will shut up.

I doff my hat to you, thanks. I can sleep peacefully tonight and just as if like a baby after having a bath

budaatum:
Just curious, but why ask if its old?

I spotted Rik Mayal, RIP late of the "Bottom" sitcom in the first link you shared. Used to love watching it back then

PS: I am loving watching it. Nothing satanism in it at all. Whats Ola watched that made him conclude that way?

Trust them to make Caiaphas a blackman, No prize for guessing right that Judas too prolly's going to be a blackman in it too, lol. Oops, I am wrong. Judas, afterall, is a whiteman, lol. Thank God, for that, lol

budaatum:
You say this because you have watched it, and not ignorantly?

ht tps://youtu.be/Xp7ZLr4RqiI

ht tps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=RDXp7ZLr4RqiI&feature=share&playnext=1

Thanks budaatum dahling but is it that old? Isn't that the RIP guy from the "Bottoms Up" sitcom whom Ade Edmondson, used to star with?

Dareypaul:
Oluwo of Iwoland was caught red-handed rolling what was suspected to be marijuana.

The king ex-wife granted an interview yesterday to expose the devilish act of the king, she also said so many bad things about the king, from raping innocent girls to drinking achocol and taking various drugs.

The ex-wife later released one of the videos where Oluwo was caught rolling ....

daddytime:
Every discerning mind suppose know say the guy na the real HRH.

His Royal Highness (HRH).

See how the guy serious dey grind the Maggi like say na FG work.

Igboo na bastard sha

Kabiyesi, Igba Keji Orisa, nah honorary real Ndigbo, Igwe, Igbo Kwenu hey! Igboman, lol. The MVP Igbobian, lol

finalboss:
Baba ti binu tan

So, you too sabi tok and write yoruba. Na wa ooo.

LordReed:
Is her notes science text or the paper she published? Abeg go and sit down jor! You said you have innumerable and the best you could come up with is professor's notes? Gerrahere.

[img]https://s6/images/VirusGoal.jpg[/img]

"The goal of a virus particle is to transport its genome in a replication-competent form from an infected cell to an uninfected cell. To enter a new host cell, the majority ofviruses take advantage of the endocyticmechanisms of the cell and wait until reaching endocytic vacuoles or other cytoplasmic compartments before penetrating into the cytosol. After penetration, viruses and viral capsids exploit the cytoplasmic transport systems of the cell, moving to sites of replication within the cytosol (most RNA viruses) or the nucleus (most DNA viruses). The final step in the entry process generally involves uncoating of the viral genome. After numerous entry studies with a variety of viruses in different cell systems, the overall picture of entry of animal virus into the host cell is becoming increasingly complete. There are essentially six locations for penetration. These are: ..."
Virus Entry at a Glance
Yohei Yamauchi and Ari Helenius
Institute of Biochemistry, ETH Zurich, Schafmattstrasse 18, Zurich, CH-8093, Switzerland*
Published by The Company of Biologists Ltd
and in Journal of Cell Science 2013
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/5ac4/348710f1626fd2b121b4d916e87aaaede1b5.pdf
https://jcs.biologists.org/content/126/6/1289

My laptop is freezing up because I over over 100 browser tabs opened, lol. It was frustrating opening that one. I am retorting to closing down few at a time, not important tabs, then for the browser to catch up from released resources free enough to quickly load page. My browser update notification too, that I've delayed, is even in the background there, compounding the whole thing. It is just cramping my style and get-going.

I am really pissed off right now, as I dont want to close and shut down the tabs

LordReed:
What is wrong with you? I said produce science text you are giving me reported speech/interview.

Here is the paper Nihal Alton-Bonnet was part of:

https://www.cell.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0092-8674%2810%2900369-7

Find in it where they say the goal of the virus is to replicate and quote the paragraph.

What's the matter with you?

I showed you the professor 's notes where she talked about what the goal of the virus is, but you are ignoring that, and gone zeroing on her published paper, that hasnt her written notes on it and so instead of using goal in it, used a different expression conveying the idea of how the virus function.

Fundamentally, as I previously mentioned, the virus, by design, is all about successfully replicating itself, else thats the end of it.

"... The goal, of the virus, is to replicate itself ...
For its replication machines to work,
the virus needs to create an ideal lipid environment
which it does by hijacking a key enzyme from its host cell..."
- notes by Nihal Altan-Bonnet
Associate Professor of Cell Biology
Rutgers University in Newark, 30 May 2010

LordReed:
... Produce one of the numerous science texts you said that say the aim/goal/objective of a virus is to replicate.
As usual put up or shut up.

MuttleyLaff:
If I do, will you, do then put up or shut up and give it a rest, hmm LordReed?

LordReed:
Yes

Thank you!

Catch up with reading the full details of the research she discovered with her research team about the above comment at Science News/Sciencedaily.com by clicking on below url link:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/05/100528210736.htm

LordReed:
It is you playing word games. Produce one of the numerous science texts you said that say the aim/goal/objective of a virus is to replicate. As usual put up or shut up.

If I do, will you, do then put up or shut up and give it a rest, hmm LordReed?

LordReed:
Does a mirror AIM to reflect light or it just reflects light by virtue of its nature? The virus does not aim, it just is.

Since you are no longer the threat of losing your account, produce 1 of the inexhaustible science texts you said you could that state that the aim or goal of a virus is to replicate.

The operative phrase and/or keywords, I used up there, were "by design" Very important and strong enough for you to have taken note of that and not overlook, shrug off and cheapen as non-grata.

I can see you're just playing at semantics here, when we actually both mean and/or are saying the same thing

LordReed:
Muttleylaff, Image123

What you fail to comprehend is science would never use the words aim or goal for something like the virus because the virus is a thing without conscious direction. It CANNOT aim or have goals so you'll NEVER have a science textbook that describes the virus as having aims or goals.

Ain't you happy you learnt something today? LMFAO!

No, not at all. No I didn't learn that from you. I actually from my researches learned that from Aajonus Vonderplanitz RIP, Rudolf Stenier RIP and Thomas Cowan M.D. about that.

It is actually was from Aajonus' comment that I learned that viruses are not alive, lol.

Go Google Aajonus. Fyi he's dead now though, a very smart and knowledgeable guy. It's claimed he fell from his hotel balcony, but word is, he actually was killed off.

Whether viruses and/or coronavirus is conscious or not conscious, the fact remains, that by design, it aims to replicate itself. Now the proof of this in the case of coronavirus, is the crown of protein is puts on. This is the reason behind the name corona in its portmanteau name "coronavirus" Corona, means crown, hence the coronavirus (i.e. virus with crowns of protein) The idea, is to have the protein for it to survive on with and so use it to keep on replicating itself

LordReed:
Thanks for your concern but for the last time do you take the bet, yes or no?

The concern? Anytime, but as for the bet, I pass LordReed, as I dont take easy bets, besides I dont kick a man when he's already down. I am not going to betray my sensibilities by allowing you at my expense, throw yourself under the bus and for what, just for sheer ego. Sorry. No. No can do. I know you'll understand, if not immediately now, of course in the future, when looking back on this.

vaxx1:
There is NOTHING like demons. it is euroncetric conception. what exist only is human being and supernanatural being . and It is extremely important that you realize that this supernatural beings are not divinities just living out in the sky or some other place that you placate. The beings live WITHIN YOU.and you are both physical and spiritual organs within your body.

it is human being who becomes supernatural

The very first Odu, Eji Ogbe, tells us:
"Orunmila wi eniyan ni dorisa."
This translates as,
"Orunmila said human beings transform into orisa."

vaxx1 baba ooo! Aboru Aboye baba ooo, lol.

C'mon. How is demon, an eurocentric concept please?
What, just I have above asked FOLYKAZE is orisa? You would have read what FOLYKAZE wrote about Orisa possesions? You also would have seen how I asked about the dynamicisms of this intriguingly Orisa possessions. Please feel free to shed more light, refute, compliment or even improve on what or all FOLYKAZE had up there previously typed

sonmvayina:
You still have much to learn?.

sonmvayina, you still have much to learn that learning only stops when you're six feet under, lol

sonmvayina:
Where did you get the idea that Satan is a dual opposite of God

Where did you get the idea that I've said, that Satan is a dual opposite of God, hmm?

sonmvayina:
or is independent of God...

[img]https://s3/images/ObamaMuttley.gif[/img]
Oh oh. Siddon there, begin ask me.

I am not even going to bother to dignify answering this comment. Smh.

sonmvayina:
Continue.. Just do a good unbiased research on your answers... You are getting there quite alright.

Is it strawmanning season again yet, lol?

sonmvayina:
Demons and angels are nothing but personification of natural laws and principles....

You've just abused the correct way of using personification and utterly misused the word. Smh.

OK, let's find out then:
1/ How do you mean, demons and celestial beings are personification of natural laws and principles?
2/ Give and/or show me a 2 to 3 examples of demons' and celestial beings' personifications of natural laws and principles

sonmvayina:
There is NO such things as extra-terrestrial

1/ Why according to you sonmvayina, is there no such thing as extra-terrestrial?
2/ Is there to your knowledge and understanding, anything like super-natural being though sonmvayina, hmm?
3/ What to your knowledge and understanding, are demons sef sonmvayina? Are they corporeal or the are incorporeal beings?
4/ What to your knowledge and understanding, are demons sonmvayina? Are demons, celestial beings or they are terrestial being?

LordReed:
Take the bet or stop dancing around. Yes or no?

Maybe I am dancing around trying to save you from suicidally self destructing yourself

LordReed:
Do you take the bet?

"Viruses can only exert influence by invading a cell, because they're not cellular structures. They lack the ability to replicate on their own, so viruses are merely tiny packets of DNA or RNA genes enfolded in a protein coating, on the hunt for a cell they can dominate."

The above is an exerpt from the link Image123 provided. Compare it with what I also posted above about the corovirus and it's protein head.

Just quit while you still have the chance, to do so safely and intact, jor

LordReed:
The bet stipulates producing a science textbook that teaches that goal of a virus is to replicate. Can you do that? Take the bet then if you have no chance of losing.

I enjoy a good back and forth until the other side wants to take their ball and go home. LMFAO!

I can produce inexhaustible science textbooks, science research papers, other sources of viruses exposition that stipulates the goal of a virus is to replicate.

As a matter of fact, I still have post sitting unfinished that I was hoping to send off as a reply to donnie, where in it, I asked donnie about if he knows why the corona naming given to Coronavirus. It's a deadgiveaway of why the virus greedily needed all that protein and even pompously is with pride flaunting and be in your head, or is it, in your face with it. LordReed you go wound, if you carry on, insisting on this bet. Just eat the humble pie, knowing you made a hasty remark with Image123 and that will be the end of the whole matter. You are just as human like everyone and next person is. You dont walk on water. Everyone makes mistakes and gets things wrong mi'lord

PS: Since you've let the cat out of the bag and spared LordReed his blushes and doing the untimely unthinkable, please Image123 ignore my CYM notification

LordReed:
You want to take the bet?

I would gladly do LordReed my dear sire, if want you are disputing is that the virus' goal is to replicate.

So are you then saying, it is not any of the virus' goal to replicate itself ni?

I didn't even know your grab of writing Yoruba was that good, lol. The epithet ping pong gbas gbos between you and Maximus69, gave me loads of lols, reading them one after the other, lol. I havent in a long time heard those adjective yoruba words used, lol.

PS: It was just yesterday, I spotted the statistics on my total posts, to date and thought to myself, looks like it's getting to the about time I jack in the ID and stop posting with it, just as I've usually done with past others, once I've reached a certain milestone, so LordReed, this might just be providence and a good excuse for me to stop using the MuttleyLaff account albeit there is no chance of me losing the bet, especially if you answer my question(s) lol.

finalboss:
looking suspiciously at me meme

C'mon on finalboss, dont look at me like that and with that your corner of the eye looking funny face, 'cos it's true nah, both and you know that, at list the first, if not about my second comment, lol

PS: someone's account is going to do a naimean jesusjnr fall and rest on their sword thingy thing. Hmmm.

Biology 101, viruses' goal is to replicate nah. Everyone that's anyone with basic and informed knowledge will know this. Dont even have to be a microbiologist and/or even an epidemiologist to know this, lol.

I sight with my little eyes, a Hajia El-Rufai closet "ceiling" fan there, lol

Eviana:
Humbled by your appreciation. Thank you...
Do you remember that thread back in 2018, I believe that was dealing with Genesis 6:1-4 (the humans/angel "procreation" event)?
You were explaining it very well scripturally-wise and I agreed with you then too...
This is one of those scriptural passages that we agree on.
I also understand that, that scripture passage, along with some other major passages, is very, very, very controversial.
All I can say is that people pray for the Holy Spirit to lead in true understanding.

I didnt realise you posted this, lol

No, tbh, I dont remember the thread. I am so bad at remembering things like that. I'll give you an example, friend of mine many years ago, just got married and it was me, that helped take his newly wedded wife and him, to the airport to catch the flight for their honeymoon. Fast forward few years later, down the line, we met up again after a few good number of years losing staying in touch. My friend was telling his missus, remember it was me that drove them to the airport for going on their honeymoon. She answered back, in affirmative, saying, yeah, yeah, she does remember, but guess what, I didnt. I didnt even know I did, talkless remember I took them to the airport, lol.

I hardly talk about the real meaning of "sons of God", lol. I rarely, except on one-on-one, do exegesis and hermeneutics on it and on all them Job 1:6, Job 2:1 and Job 38:7, plus even Genesis 6:2 and 6:4 verses associated with the phrase, lol. That one episode, that you remembered, prolly was, maybe one of an isolated one-offs, of me publicly and especially in a rowdy/noisy market place like, as in here, lol, doing anything like that, lol.

Eviana:
Not everything that followers of Christ have been taught for generations, are biblically-sound.
I will though, have to go back from the beginning of the thread to read about Mr. Reed's main topic question...slowly but surely.

Gbam! Word!
No diggity, the emboldened.

Eviana:
I was so tickled by the above bolded.
This was so funny because Nigerians are so interesting.....which I already know.
Gotta love my other half...no matter how frustrated I get sometimes.
I am so very tickled really.
On that other thread, you told me to "keep quiet" on doctrine that I didn't understand remember?.....
Soooo, I followed your instructions by "running away for good"...lol.

Me control MuttleyLaff enough to make him run away or back down/run away from any religious discussion on this forum? I don't think I've ever seen him do that ever..
Again very hilarious....I am tickled again..lol.
Oh I'm sure your questions will be answered...

However, yes, I am gonna do a "repeat" of what I did on the other thread over here on this thread (although I probably could explain this one a little bit better) and exercise my feminine grace--which I thank God for--and do the following while running:

Proverbs 17:28 (KJV)
28 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

Eviana, Nigerians are an interesting and blessed lot in a good and positive way, lol. Trust me, I know because Naija is in my DNA, my blood, lol. I cant believe that Finallydead would tell you to "keep quiet" on doctrine that he presumes you didn't understand. Sounds like he is trying to embrace and employ that misunderstood Apostle Paul's verse about the alleged silence of women, lol smh. Now he is getting the hump and green-eyed over me mentioning your kind-heartedness and expressing appreciation of it. Whats the matter with people huh?

Well, as you've already seen yourself, in that heap Finallydead put up there, he's got in it, more holes than in a swiss cheese, its just plain smh unbelievable. What has begotten Son got to do with son(s) of God. Doesnt Finallydead know what begotten, in the original Greek text, means ni? Has Finallydead not heard or learned about monogenes ni? I invited Finallydead twice for a private chat, but he is dodging and avoiding them. Of course, Finallydead wants to continue living his delusion, lol.

90% of Finallydead's submission was him merely strawmanning me. Quite a lot what Finallydead typed were excruciatingly obscure, unclear and/or unintelligible to follow and plain just misleading. He even, is so blinded by fables, even the Greek mythology didn't raise a red flag up, as warning for Finallydead to see that, hey something is odd in here and think what really is this scripture saying here that I am blinded from seeing, lol. Too much to mention, made me want to throw my hands in the air and give up on him.

Finallydead:
MODIFIED***
11)Can you produce a single text in scripture where Satan or any evil angel shares a human body with the host like demons do?
Note that there are spiritual bodies as well as physical(1Cor15:40). All spirits must have a body to rest in whether spiritual or physical.
Demons are disbodied(physical from the flood), hence naked spirits who yearn for a body, like any other disbodied spirit e.g. we in 2Cor5:1-3 and never can rest until they have one(Lk11:24, Mk5:12). However evil angels have bodies which are spiritual, not physical (1Cor15:40) hence never need to share with a human.
If God were to open one's eyes to see a demon or an angel, it will be very clear that demons are ghostly, nauseating, grotesque, like virmin (usually stunted) of the spirit world. While evil angels with their wings and firm bodies are more dignified, though very evil and grim, some humanoid, others not really, generally larger.

Take this #11 for a case study. What bunkum. Nothing but exaggerated conjecture. What brought on the not backed up with scripture, alleged "... If God were to open one's eyes to see a demon or an angel, it will be very clear that demons are ghostly, nauseating, grotesque, like virmin (usually stunted) ... While evil angels with their wings and firm bodies are more dignified, though very evil and grim, some humanoid, ..." hmm? Where from, if not the pit of hell, did he conjure up this nonsense up from

Why does he even, always enjoys proof-texting, hmm? Every extra-terrestrial beings aka celestial beings aka non human angelic beings, aka supernatural beings are just like God, they are spiritual, they are incorporeal. Why does Finallydead think they want or have a need to share their heavenly bodies with human beings, when all what OP LordReed was asking is why do they despite having a superior body have a need to possess human beings and/or their bodies. Simples and hes gone on different course of his. Smh.

I invited him to a private chatroom, but he's so scared of having his bubble burst, so he is hiding behind the, air it, in the market place for all to hear ploy. First it was, lets agree to disagree, but now when I declined that and gave him a chance to have a private chat, to do a mano o mano that's presented itself, it is then, this next one, hes pulled out from in his bag of running away tricks, lol, smh.

Myer:
My intention is not to impress you, hence quit the falling of hand charade.

I dont give a toss what your intention and/or agenda is. I care less about it.

Myer:
We're just rubbing minds albeit to educate each other, definitely by arguing facts.

Sorry to disappoint I dont do argue, if about the former, we'll certainly get on fine, but as for the latter, pfft, not my style, not my cup of tea. No can do

Myer:
I really don't know why you went through the trouble of reading my posts when you could simply ask me whatever you wanted to know. I hope you found what you were searching for, my Achilles heels perhaps?

You are a fast learner, arent you, lol? I'll tell you why. Its because due to the Convenient Virus, it so happens, I suddenly now have loads of time, enough time to want to be snooping around other people's accumulated posts. As for what I found out, you've a wicked sense of humour, you bait, you tease, you even rub it in people's faces, you seemingly are smart, you have a reasonable Bible head knowledge, your Christianity history is relatively up to scratch, your bible interpretation, understanding and/or knowledge is not something to write home about. Sorry about saying that one about Bible interpretation etcetera in that way. You seems to be in the late 20s - mid 40s age range bracket. You sound like a fun loving person and above all you defo are a free spirited individual. I could go on, but why waste the forum's database space with inconsequentials, lol.

Myer:
Now, my follow-up question is just a proof that God failed.
If the purpose of Christ dying is for the sins of world and his ressurection is victory over death, it seems something went wrong. Don't you think?

Nah, no my friend. Never. Every single step of the process, right before even right in there, in Eden, even right before A&E ate the fruit off the TKGE, everything was still right, nothing went wrong, everything was just beautifully going according to plan, lol, my dear new found friend, lol. I've just bit my tongue, to stop me from further talking, lol, telling me to stop and wait to see how you will respond to all I've just typed, lol.

Myer:
Where was I dishonest?

You were dishonest in twisting what I typed and misconstruing it to mean difficult. Trying to earn undeserved brownie points with that

Myer:
I never claimed you admited that God failed. I said you admited it was a difficult question.
Which I take to mean there are grey areas you would rather not get into giving the fact that you by reason of your faith cannot admit that God failed. Hence your submission that God never fails.

How you managed to acquire such marvelling psychic powers, strong enough, that enabled you to successfully and clearly see into my mind, read what's in my head and even read my thoughts is very humbling.

Fyi, what you typed here is nothing but a ship load of codswallop. There are no gray areas for me not to want to get into. My faith has nothing to with talking or not talking about God and failures. I have explicitly and outrightly informed you that, God has never ever failed. Now tell me, what so difficult to copy in that, is there any part in that statement that is not clear cut plain, simple and straigtforward to understand ni?

Learn how to stop making fatal conjectures. Learn how to further ask questions in order to get clarity, so you to avoid speculating, presuming or even guessing people wrongly

Myer:
Having clarified that, you failed to answer the follow up question.

I didnt fail to answer your follow up question nada. I basically refused to entertain your impetuousness, hence the stalemate.

You fall for my hand big time, as I thought you were better than that, having gone through all your past, to date, uploaded posts

Myer:
I understand that admiting that God failed would be a difficult one for you or any other believer.
[s]But since you admit it's a difficult question[/s], that's good enough for me.
I'll say you're half honest, even though we both know honesty isn't honesty unless it's 100%.

MuttleyLaff:
... in order not to be accused of equivocating, I'll with all sincerity and 1000% honesty, humbly advance and submit that God doesnt fail. God has never ever failed. Not one word, promises, love of God ever fails nor has ever failed. Failing or failure is not in God's make up and nature. God has never ever failed, as God, has always gotten results, lol.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold up, hold up and come 'ere!
Not so fast José, rewind and check the above underlined emboldened and other second emboldened please.
Thank you very much

Myer:
Now to my follow up question.
What is the result that the birth, death and resurrection of Jesus accomplish?

So what's all that above you're playing at, huh?
So much for talking about honesty. Pftt. Smh.