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orisa37:
Get thee behind me Satan.

Why dont you as well bend down and touch your toes whilst soliciting Satan to get behind you, erhn, lol?

"⁷Beloved, let us love one another, because LOVE (i.e. agape) IS FROM GOD,
and everyone who loves has been FATHERED by God and knows God.
⁸The person who does not love does not know God, because GOD IS LOVE (i.e. God is agape)"
- 1 John 4:7-8

"A new commandment I give to you,
that you love (i.e. agapate) one another:
just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another"
- John 13:34

Which sense or expression of love, are we here, talking of?
Is it agape, philia, storge, pragma, eros, tough, philautia, ludus or fake love?

Bottom line, the greatest and highest form of love is agape. As in meaning...
if I have a faith that can move mountains,
^2bbut do not have love (i.e. Agape), I am nothing.
³If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast,
but do not have love (i.e. Agape), I gain nothing.
⁴Love (i.e. Agape) is patient, love (i.e. Agape) is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.
⁵It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.
⁶Love (i.e. Agape) does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.
⁷It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
⁸Love (i.e. Agape) never fails

MuttleyLaff:
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Its not funny shawty.
If you must lie, then lie down to sleep, but don’t lie, like a cheap flea market Persia rug, to people nah.

I rather be labelled a liar while telling the truth than pretend to tell the truth while telling a lie. When someone lies to you, its becuse they dont respect you enough to be honest and they think you're too stupid to know difference that the figures dont add up and so dont mind insulting your intelligence. Tut, tut, tut. Smh and to think I held you firm in my hand and in high regard

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Michellekabod2, sorry, but it's now difficult to believe that you're telling the truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMZ78oOuyrg

Michellekabod2, lol save me please 'cos Chris is cracking me up, reminding me of that Eniola Badmus, God bless her Nollywood actress, saying on Instagram "I Know Am Sexy!" and flaunting her cleavages. God knows its all love I have for thick or BBW and their white counterparts, lol.

orisa37:
AMEN.
BLESSED ARE THE POOR IN SPIRITS.

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Well done. Clap it up for yourself.

You may admit to be poor in the spirit, which is true but much of what’s in your head is demoniacal and comes straight out from the pit of hell

orisa37:
It's you who don't know what I am talking about. I just pray to God to forgive you and give you Understanding.

I pray that God have mercy on your impoverished soul

Empiree:
This is my only area of concern. I don't worry about everything else you said. So leave Jamiu Adegunwa alone.

I am doing a civic duty of letting you know that your sheik, the self-styled Ustaz, blind leading the blind, Jamiu Adegunwa is undoubtedly a bad influence on you and the earlier you stop listening to/watching his facebook broadcast to come regurgiate his bile and bad teaching here, the better for you. For very strong good health and soul reasons, stop drinking that self-styled Ustaz, fake arsed Jamiu Adegunwa's Kool-Aid.

Empiree:
So let's leave the discussions for viewing audience to judge.

The readership can see and judge that you my beloved Muslim brother friend Empiree dont want to acknowledge and/or admit that the words christian and/or christianity, did not originate from God, Jesus nor any of the Apostles and this is more the reason, why you're forever faffing around, roving and ranting and not bothered at all to answer any of all the simple, easy, direct and straightforward questions I ever asked you, lol

Empiree:
As far as I am concern, christianity has no link with Jesus whatsoever. It is Pauline religion from Rome. Not only that, Paul never met Jesus. Jesus never went to Rome. @bold is another indication that christianity has nothing to do with Jesus the son of Mary and messanger of Allah. If truly church and christianity have correlation with him(Jesus), you would have clearly indicated that. There is no evidence from Jesus that you should go to church on Sunday but in islam we have evidence to go to mosque on Friday and even ordinary days. Therefore, you are practising religion of Roman paganism.

"“Are you still so dull?” He asked. “Do you not understand? ...
(i.e. Have *you*, Empiree also, so little understanding?" Jesus replied..)"
Mark 7:18a

I have on varied occassions, typed about how the church was romanticised by Constantine and etcetera and also is one of the reasons, why I often type that, if only more christians read their bibles there'd be less christians. Now its not my circus, not my monkeys, if you are that handicapped enough to not be able to read between the lines, lol. Tbh, I really do know you have so little understanding.

There is no need, for me, to say more Empiree, my dear beloved Muslim brother friend, because if you know, you know, and all is understood, but, if you no know, then means, you're a kofam and bonafide ignoranus and forever so, foxtrot uniform charlie kiloed, lol.

Let me drop another surprising truth to further torment you Empiree, my dear beloved Muslim brother friend and that is, fyi, there is no Jesus command about keeping sabbath to obtain eternal life and/or our Lord and Saviour of the world Jesus, never taught, not even once mentioned keeping the sabbath to obtain eternal life.

Please I reiterate, you're yapping and constantly barking up the wrong tree, looking for those practising religion of Roman paganism. Of course, there is no evidence from Jesus that anyone should go to church on Sunday, but the thing is
you arent aware of the law of liberty in Romans 14:5, which provides clear evidence that there is no specified day to church. Church is not physical building(s) my ignorant beloved Muslim brother friend Empiree. C'mon now, no one can say, look, here is God or look, there iis God because you see my dear Muslim brother friend, God does not tabernacle in buildings and or mosques but He lives within us. You never knew this nugget before, lol. You never had any knowledge about this nugget. You thought God lives in mosques etcetera, and think God only appears in buildings, on Saturdays, Sundays and/or Fridays, smh, lol.

Empiree:
Tomorrow is another lecture in Yoruba by Jamiu live 9PM nigeria time. Should you wish to watch him live in Shaki, check out his facebook.

I'll rather watch paint dry on my wall or go pick up leaves off my lawn than watch that uninteresting and pretension fake arse sheik, self-styled Ustaz, blind leading the blind, Jamiu Adegunwa. I wouldnt wish on my enemy watch Jamiu Adegunwa. Tufiakwa. Yuck, cant even bring myself to imagine doing that nonsense.

Empiree:
Should you wish to make jest of yourself, talk to the guy guys below

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You are doing a great job clowning around all over this thread, caught in a cycle of ignorance. Those guys, by the way, actually are making jest of your first grade clownery and tomfoolery acts. Look for instance, take how you are sneaking back here, to edit, change, add and type in more ignorant and nonsense stuff here, thereby changing the original post content I am actively and currently responding to, smh.

Empiree:
Brother, many are reading everything we post. Those who understand, do. Those who don't, dont.

Oh yeah, its the classic, if you know, you know. Who no know, just like you my beloved Muslim brother friend Empiree who doesnt know, no go know

Empiree:
So far you have been unable to prove Christianity is religion from God

So far, I did the following:
1/ I did advance to you that your premise(s) that Jesus or any of the Apostles including Paul created Christianity is dumb, messed up and is an idea that really sucks
2/ I did advance to you, that since your faith, this is talking about Islam here, is in the Quran, as in meaning, the word Islam is explicitly seen in the Quran, then why dont you show where in the Bible is the word "Christianity" in it, but then you failed abysmally to do anything like that. Mtcheew.
3/ I did advance to you, to check out James 1:27, so in order to get a grip on what really is, true and pure religion, especially one that God finds no fault in, but you also failed abysmally to do anything about it
4/ I also did advance to you, that the Roman Empire, adopted the Roman Catholic Church (i.e. RCC) as "official" church during Roman Emperor Constantine's reign after the Roman Emperor Constantine, set the ball rolling to institutionalize "Christianity or Constantine Christianity" as the state religion.
5/ I did advance to you that your sheik, the self-styled Ustaz, blind leading the blind, Jamiu Adegunwa is being dissed and bad-mouthed by sensible fellow sheiks and others in the Muslims community with heads screwed on properly, saying he is crazy and would be dsgraced etcetera, but you couldnt come out and say this is untrue, lol

Empiree:
and you are unable to prove Jesus son of Mary, messanger of Allah brought christianity.

I keep telling you that you're trying to make fetch happen with such, this not up for a request, that is not worthy of consideration. You are looking for a black cat in a dark room, when, to start with, there is no cat, to possibly find, lol, smh.

The light of the truth can be harsh to those that have been in the dark, besides its impossible to show light to a blind man, lol. With your wide opened eyes, you are behaving like a deer caught in my headlights, but instead of you to take notice or give attention to the subtle illumination of my headlights, you instead, took the brightness of my headlights to the extreme. You, just like a deer/rabbit caught in the headlights, got dazzled by, got stunned by, and even got blindly overcomed by the hinted illumination my headlights was giving out. Now look at you getting stuck in the rabbit hole you unthinkingly climbed down into, lol.

Empiree:
Therefore, I am using this moment to invite you to Islam

You are still at it, desperately sneaking in some proselytising, lol, hmm? Are you deaf in hearing ni? Havent I already told you that the lake of fire will first need to freeze over before I will consider your invitation to Islam, hmm?. Again , I say, thank you very much all the same for the invite. Not, lol. Now sink that in, hold it down and sling your hook lol.

orisa37:
God produced other Humans than Adam & Eve. Male and Female, God made Nephilims and positioned THEM HIMSELF in the 7 zones of The World. ODUDUWA WAS ONE OF THEM.

How can you live with yourself, your lies are just so transparent

Empiree, for lying and plotting on me, you're a toerag and have no shame.

Does "Why dont you tell, why saying Koran, Qur'an or Quran, Moslem or Muslim and Muhammad or Mohammed hmm?" look the same and/or mean the same to your formulated "prove "Islam Quran Muhammad Muslim" from the Quran" hmm? Smh.

Empiree:
Do you realize that you are officially making fool of yourself?.

I have already told you that you're doing a good job showing yourself publicly and embarrasingly up and making a darn right fool of yourself. Look at you chasing going round inncircles chasing your tail. I also told you that hunter becomes the hunted, lol

Empiree:
These questions are for you not me.

Stop trying to be clever that you arent

Empiree:
You have asked me to prove these words from Qur'an and I did. They are:
Islam Quran Muhammad Muslim

You're doing your typical and classic style Pinocchio lie again, erhn? Oya, reprint here, when and when I asked you "Islam Quran Muhammad Muslim" from the Quran. Are you sure you ever set your foot in four walls of a classroom, hmm?

Empiree:
I provided you with evidences. It is on you to prove these things you asked not me. You are the one that believe in them. O ya do the needful.

Smh, you surely have no idea. O ma se ooo. At the rate you're going you'll soon go barmy and humilated just like that crazy sheik, the self-styled Ustaz, blind leading the blind, Jamiu Adegunwa was the other day, forced to eat his words and the humble pie, lol

Empiree:
I have told you that you are confused.

What an irony. Look at that, look at coal, calling snow, that's white, black, lol. You and your sheik, the self-styled Ustaz, blind leading the blind, Jamiu Adegunwa are more confused than a fart let loose on the production floor of a fan making factory.

Empiree:
Renounce CHRISTIANITY, please. Your religion is islam. Which religion mentioned in James 1:27?. Did it mention CHRISTIANITY?. No.

You keep making me legitimately laugh out loud in Arabic. Listen my dear Muslim brother friend Empiree, the word "Islam" is in the Quran, but tell me nah, is the word "CHRISTIANITY" in the Bible, lol? Do you see how you've played yourself, huh? Do you see how you're barking up the wrong tree, hmm, lol?

Empiree:
Everything you do in churches go against Bible. So which religion James is talking about, sir?. E fi christianity si le. Ko si ona ola nibe ra ra. Ona Anu ni

"Alaye, ẹlẹsin imale, shebi o kawe, shebi o mọ iwe". I thought you went to school, read out and paste here all available translation version of James 1:27 you are able to lay your hands on nah

I thought you are cerebral, why did you avoid responding to those three simple easy straightforward and direct questions, was it fear that stopped you from answering them, lol, hmm?, Oya I repeat the questions, and I dare you, dem no born you well, to provide your answers to the three questions, lol.

1/ Where in the Bible have you ever read that Jesus started Christianity, hmm?
2/ Where in the Bible have you read Apostle Paul or any of the other 12 appointed Apostles started Christianity?
3/ Where have you found any of the disciples and/or followers of our Lord and Saviour of the world Jesus Christ called themselves Christians or endearingly addressed each other as Christians?

Bonus Question: Empiree are you aware that a good respectful section of the Muslim community say your your sheik, the self-styled Ustaz, blind leading the blind Empiree, Jamiu Adegunwa is loco, that he isnt mentally stable, hmm? Fellow sheiks, are on YouTube, saying "Ẹtẹ lo ma gbẹhin Jamiu Adegunwa. That Jamiu Adegunwa will be disgraced out soon, saying he should get ready to face disgrace and shame"

Empiree:
Case closed self defeat

It should clear to you by now that you are wasting your time in christianity that didn't come from One God. Please stop luring Jesus the son of Mary, the messanger of Allah into your religion. He has nothing to do with you

All other things you said are irrelevant. You have successfully established hujjah against yourself.

"He (Allah) has ordained for you the same religion (Islam) which He ordained for Nuh (Noah), and that which We have inspired in you (O Muhammad SAW), and that which We ordained for Ibrahim (Abraham), Musa (Moses) and 'Iesa (Jesus) saying you should establish religion (i.e. to do what it orders you to do practically), and make no divisions in it (religion) (i.e. various sects in religion). Intolerable for the Mushrikun, is that to which you (O Muhammad SAW) call them. Allah chooses for Himself whom He wills, and guides unto Himself who turns to Him in repentance and in obedience." Q43:13

"Religion With God Is Islam" Q 3:19

"Whosever seeks a religion other than Islam it will never be accepted from him and in the Hereafter, he will be one of the losers" Q 3:85

You are one such helluva self deluded individual. Case closed. Self defeat in your dreams.

1/ Where in the Bible have ever read that Jesus started Christianity, hmm?
2/ Where in the Bible have you read Apostle Paul or any of the other 12 appointed Apostles started Christianity?
3/ Where have you found any of the disciples and/or followers of our Lord and Saviour of the world Jesus Christ called themselves Christians or addressed each other as Christians?

Check out James 1:27 to know what is religion that is pure, that is true and such that God finds no fault in my unfortunate dear indoctrinated by your sheik and self-styled Ustaz, blind leading the blind, Jamiu Adegunwa

Michellekabod2:
I remember saying 16 and 26,and several others with different alters to get different responses
On this forum.

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Its not funny shawty.
If you must lie, then lie down to sleep, but don’t lie, like a cheap flea market Persia rug, to people nah.

I rather be labelled a liar while telling the truth than pretend to tell the truth while telling a lie. When someone lies to you, its becuse they dont respect you enough to be honest and they think you're too stupid to know difference that the figures dont add up and so dont mind insulting your intelligence. Tut, tut, tut. Smh and to think I held you firm in my hand and in high regard

Michellekabod2:
However I am less than half of 43(21)

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Michellekabod2, sorry, but it's now difficult to believe that you're telling the truth.

Michellekabod2:
He has being calling me an evening newspaper so I gladly acknowledged it

Morning newspaper or evening newspaper, newspaper nah newspaper, besides wine gets better with age anyway and also wine with good structure tend to last longer

Michellekabod2:
The age I have stated earlier is accurate though

Well, as I've earlier said, the sums dont add up because around four years or so ago, you said you were x years old and had your son at 16. Looks like it was your football age you gave the other time but now have advanced your real age

Empiree:
[s]Who wrote Act of apostles? According to record search, it says "Evangelist Luke". The Acts of the Apostles. The Acts of the Apostles, abbreviation Acts, fifth book of the New Testament, a valuable history of the early Christian church. Acts was written in Greek, presumably by the Evangelist Luke, whose gospel concludes where Acts begins, namely, with Christ's Ascension into heaven.

So this further proves my point that christianity is not about Jesus. So Luke wrote something and formulated idea about Paul. Who was sent to Israelite, Jesus, Paul or Luke?. From this research Jesus is not mentioned which means you guys have nothing to do with Jesus. I will advise you to please watch this clip. Don't mind the english but the message

Paul saw and heard God's voice or not?. It is a very simply question. If he saw the Lord in Jerusalem or Damascus or vis-a-vis it is still against the basic principle which is, no one can hear God or see Him regardless of whether he was in Jerusalem or Damascus.

Diversion tactic

It is very simple. Just bring us a prove otherwise that show christianity was started by Jesus himself. Simple, isnt?. Please dont post "christlike" bcuz isnt gonna work.

How does this prove christianity?. Is this your evidence? smh

Em.piree, argue and wrestle with John 20:29 above.

"¹⁵Consider also that our Lord’s patience brings salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom God gave him.
¹⁶ He writes this way in all his letters, speaking in them about such matters. Some parts of his letters are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction. "
- 2 Peter 3:15-16

You are very ignorant of christianity. You have no proof. My advice is to learn from Islam. Learn from muslims. From everything you posted you could not establish how Jesus created christianity. I feel sorry for you.

This is what Queen James Version Of The Bible said. Queen James Bible was produced in America to counter king James.

Every place where 'he' is used for Jesus they changed it to 'she'.

Still religion from God?. You guys are joke[/s]

MuttleyLaff:
The joke is on you but yeah, Apostle Paul, you are right was sent off to the Gentiles by our Lord and Saviour of the world Yahsua Hamashiach, that for you my dear Muslim brother friend, means Jesus Christ.

Why should I prove to you or show you that christianity was started by Jesus, hmm?. What makes you think I am interested in posting "christlike" when you already know it is not going to work erhn. I have already informed you that Christianity was established by the Roman Emperor, Constantine and not by Jesus nor Apostle Paul.

I have intimated you with John 10:16 that followed suit after Mathew 15:24, about the Jew/Israelites first and then next us the Gentiles the rest of the world but it just went swoosh over your head like a Naija airforce jet fighter plane. Go look into Genesis 3:15 (i.e. promise to Eve) and Genesis 22:18 (i.e. promise to Abraham, thats Ibrahim for you my Muslim brother Empiree) for an eye opener, smh

You are not clued up to what Yahsua Hamashiach (i.e. Jesus Christ) at all means and/or the implication of the two words

Your other problem just like every other Muslim like you, is that you dont know who really Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour of the world is. If you are not just a time waster, time stealer and time killer, then whats stopping you summarising with your point(s) what matters in the 2 hour plus YouTube. The first 1 hour 15 minutes of the clip that I foolishly watched is just wasted time, lengthy, confused and inconsequential unnecessarily and belaboured overdone speech, with no head, no body and no tail. Smh.

Look my dear beloved Muslim brother friend use the following "MuttleyLaff people antioch" string in the Search field to see how your Sheik has no idea of what he is trying to talk about, lol. Soak up and devour all the result output from the search done with the "MuttleyLaff people antioch" string but ignore any result pertaining to "Saint Ignatius of Antioch" because thats about something else different entirely, lol.

No wonder you've been yarning nonsense here along. It was the bile from your Sheik and self-styled Ustaz, that came to regurgitate and repeat here, smh

Empiree:
like I knew you would quote this evidence...chai.

"But the Lord said, “Go, for Saul is my chosen instrument to take my message to the Gentiles and to kings, as well as to the people of Israel.
(i.e. The Lord told Ananias, "Go! I've chosen this man to bring my name to nations, to kings, and to the people of Israel.)"
- Acts 9:15

It's a lie, thats another of your typical and classic style Pinocchio lie, lol. You knew not what I would quote, talkless know its Acts 22:17-21, that I would quote. OK, did you also know about Acts 9:15 above too, erhn, hmm?

Empiree:
Paul ripped you guys off. I am still coming to break down your so called "proofs" if time permits but allow me to drop this.

Act of Apostle 22:18 Paul claimed he saw the Lord but Acts 9:3-9 says he did not see anything the Lord

As he was traveling, it happened that he was approaching Damascus, and suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him; and he fell to the ground and heard a voice saying to him, “Paul, Paul, why are you persecuting Me?” And he said, “Who are You, Lord?” And He said, “I am Jesus whom you are persecuting, but get up and enter the city, and it will be told you what you must do.” The men who traveled with him stood speechless, hearing the voice but seeing no one. Paul got up from the ground, and though his eyes were open, he could see nothing; and leading him by the hand, they brought him into Damascus. And he was three days without sight, and neither ate nor drank.

Look at this, of course old enough to be "agbalagba agbalagbi agbantara" my dear Muslim brother friend, showing himself up and publicly disgracing himself. Fyi, Act of Apostles 9:3-9 happened on Apostle Paul on his way to Damascus, while this Act of Apostles 22:18 happened when he was in Jerusalem. Please next time get the facts right and try not to again conflate issues, lol.

Empiree:
I have more to reveal to you maybe your eyes will eventually open and realize you have been scammed by Mr. Paul. This topic was actually dealt with yesternight by Jamiu Adegunwa, how Paul deceived Christians.

You think you're sleak, you arent sleak, I know your game, I've watched it unfold, lol, so continue to amuse and impress me with your horseplay antics, lol, but hey, have you heard the saying: "Sometimes, even the hunter, as in meaning, the predator, becomes the hunted, as in meaning, the prey", lol. "Las la, ti mo ba jẹẹ tan, ma fi egungun ẹ tahin ni" loosely translated means "After I am done educating you and ruthlessly dealing with you, I'll use your bones as toothpicks"

Empiree:
How Paul started Christianity.

MuttleyLaff:
Religion that is true, pure and without any fault has to do with compassion. True, pure and one without any faults, has to do with having concern(s) for the sufferings or misfortunes of others and being sympathetic towards them

"Nwanne, Christianity, never started in any upper room on any day of Pentencost. Christianity, as in, Constantine Christianity, in cahoot with the "church" started in Rome."
- Re: Oblate Eusebius Oguizu Is Dead: Founder Of Block Rosary Crusade In Nigeria Dies by MuttleyLaff: on 8:33am On May 30 2019

"... the catholic started Christianity, this so, because the Roman Catholic Church was formed, after shady deal(s) and/or sell-out to the State by the "Church", as it was the Roman Emperors Constantine's and Licinius' Edict of Milan in AD 313 which established a policy of religious freedom for all, as in, this was a proclamation that permanently legalised Christianity in the Roman Empire, and so paved the way for Christianity to be the official religion of the entire Roman Empire too.

The introduction of pagan religions and assimilation of paganism influences was a tragic compromise by the early believers, as this resulted in the Romanization and paganization of the early believers' faith and the "Christianization" of pagan beliefs as we not just know but celebrate then and celebrate even up until now.

Anyway, the Roman Empire, adopted the Roman Catholic Church (i.e. RCC) as "official" church during Roman Emperor Constantine's reign, and it's worth noting, that, the supremacy of the Roman bishop (i.e. the papacy or pope) was set up, put into place, aided and abetted through the support of the Roman Emperors (i.e. notably Constantine and his successors)

Recall that I earlier mentioned the Edict of Milan in AD 313, which was a letter signed by the Roman Emperors Constantine and Licinius, that proclaimed religious toleration in the Roman Empire, well, in AD 325, Constantine called the First Council of Nicaea in AD 325, in an attempt to unify Christianity when doctrinal disputes arose, like for example Arianism, all about doctrines named after Arius, a teacher in the early 4th century A.D and so Constantine presided over this first ecumenical church council

So quick recap, by the 1st century AD, ekklēsia birthed on the teachings of Jesus Christ and later founded on the day of Pentecost in the upper room with a bunch of 120 believers.

By the 2nd century AD - believers already denouncing teachings, seen as heresies, such as Gnosticism, Montanism etcetera.

In the 4th century AD - ekklēsia was transformed, emerged Christians, an evolved "church", finally gets legalized and then promoted by Emperors Constantine and Theodosius I, as the state church, of the Roman Empire and so yes also that, legendarymega is right, that the Catholics, are the original owner of your bible, because truly, the RCC are the original owner of your bible version(s), because incidentally and truly, those versions were made off the back of "The Vulgate", which was an accepted Latin translation of the original Old and New Testament texts.

Some even called, "The Vulgate", the "The Vulgar" bible. Anyway, Jerome, of RCC, was the person, who translated the original Old and New Testament texts and compiled them into a single volume of the 66 books we enjoy today"
- Re: Oblate Eusebius Oguizu Is Dead: Founder Of Block Rosary Crusade In Nigeria Dies by MuttleyLaff: on 8:33am On May 30 2019

I agree with you that Christianity was spread through violence and intolerance once Constantine and his mother Helena decided to make it the official state religion. I've on varied occassions, typed about how the church was romanticised by Constantine and etcetera and also why I often type that, if only more christians read their bibles there'd be less christians

I am legitimately laughing out loud in Arabic at your lack of correct knowledge and information. Smh. My dear Muslim brother friend, if you were someone that is bible literate, you would have known that Paul never started anything called Christianity

After you have finished reading the above quote brought here from another thread, please go bring yourself up to speed because you are way wrong off the charts in saying and believing that Apostle Paul started Christianity. No way José, my dear Muslim brother friend Empiree, as you can see and have read from the above quote, did Apostle Paul start Christianity, lol. Smh.

Empiree:
He could never have been religious authority or beloved by Jesus he didn't meet.

"Jesus said to him, "Have you believed because you have seen me? Blessed are the people who have not seen and yet have believed.""
- John 20:29

Empiree, argue and wrestle with John 20:29 above.

Empiree:
Read what Paul said about Jesus. Hebrew 6:1 is a clear message to Christians. It is clear that Paul, a self proclaimed "Apostle", was a fraudulent dude. There is absolutely no correlation btw Jesus and Paul.

"Therefore let us move beyond the elementary teachings about Christ and be taken forward to maturity, not laying again the foundation of repentance from acts that lead to death,[a] and of faith in God."

"¹⁵Consider also that our Lord’s patience brings salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom God gave him.
¹⁶ He writes this way in all his letters, speaking in them about such matters. Some parts of his letters are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction. "
- 2 Peter 3:15-16

No matured and come of age person with teeth in the mouth lives on milk, they move on to meat, more so, strong meat, but I can see that you my beloved Muslim brother friend Empiree, falls into the above 2 Peter 3:16 category of ignorant and unstable people who distort the Scriptures, to their own destruction. I vehemently pray you desist from your ignorant plus ignoble act(s) and repent to save your precious soul from damnable destruction

Empiree:
So who gave Paul the authority to dismantled doctrines/teachings of Jesus?. This is a prove that christians are followers of Paul not Jesus. Jesus message was only to some Israelites.

"For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is God's power for salvation to everyone who believes, first to the Jew, and also to the Greek."
- Romans 1:16

Apostle Paul has not and/or did not dismantle any doctrines/teachings of Jesus. How wrong you are to think or type this way and it of course, is simply because you don't properly know and dont correctly understand the Bible

Empiree:
He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel." Mathew 15:24

"I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them in as well, and they will listen to My voice.
Then there will be one flock and one shepherd."
- John 10:16

"My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me."
- John 10:27

"I am the good shepherd. I know My sheep and My sheep know Me,"
- John 10:14

I am glad you brought up Mathew 15:24 because I just under 48hrs ago incidentally was sharing John 10:16 with TATIME and Maximus69 and even quoted this same Mathew 15:24 to hint them that there are other sheep, lol.

nlPoster:
[s]You people and muttleylaff in particular should stop bumping the thread please.
There are over 20 topics asking this same question, quit re-asking it[/s].

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Let me just bite my tongue.
Hmm. Mtcheew. Smh.

Michellekabod2:
I am just 43 ...

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Shawty, I asked 'cos computer says, No, to 43, lol, due to the numbers not adding up.
I normally wont ask a lady her age, but you before now, at least on two different occasions or twice, have volunteered this info

Michellekabod2:
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... yet I am sexy as ever....
All hail the midnight newspaper Queen Michelle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuLFH7DrQIk
Every female is sexy and beauty lies in the eye of the beholder.
Yes, of course, going by your pics that I've in the past seen, I can vouch that you are, a sexy, beautiful and body fit black woman.
Chris, lol, is another one of my fav GOAT comic, lol.

Bodydialect57:
The BWW are obviously pretence believers who think the broad way will lead them to heaven regardless of what they do. The broad way accommodates anything anyway. I guess that's why Jesus Christ will deny knowing them despite their intimidating credentials. Matthew 7:12-14

"Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.
(i.e. But the narrow gate and the road that lead to life are full of trouble. Only a few people find the narrow gate)"
- Matthew 7:14

With their audio or pseudo "intimidating credentials" they actually never found the narrow gate, talkless ever at all have the chance to enter in through it, and then after, for them to be entitled to any consideration from our Lord and Saviour of the world Jesus Christ

Davash222:
She's still this sexy at 50
Michellekabod2, analqueenluci and other anointed Nairaland feminists, good afternoon oo.

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Empiree:
can you provide evidence that Paul was sent to the gentiles and by who?

"¹⁷Later, when I had returned to Jerusalem and was praying at the temple, I fell into a trance,
¹⁸and saw the Lord saying to me, ‘Hurry! Leave Jerusalem quickly, because the people here will not accept your testimony about Me.’
¹⁹‘Lord,’ I answered, ‘they know very well that in one synagogue after another I imprisoned and beat those who believed in You.
²⁰And when the blood of Your witness Stephen was shed, I stood there giving my approval and watching over the garments of those who killed him.’
²¹Then He said to me, ‘Go! I will send you far away to the Gentiles.’” "
- Acts 22:17-21

You this my beloved Muslim brother friend, what am I to do with this your admirable quest for knowledge erhn, lol? I thank God I have the love, grace, temperance and power to put up with you and your soaking up information, as if iike a sponge soaking up water, lol.

Empiree:
Lol, I am sure 100% you don't know the answer. You have no idea who you talking to. Your religion is about Mr. Paul under the guise of Jesus. It is obvious from several Bible quotes of yours.

The joke is on you but yeah, Apostle Paul, you are right was sent off to the Gentiles by our Lord and Saviour of the world Yahsua Hamashiach, that for you my dear Muslim brother friend, means Jesus Christ.

Bodydialect57:
What then happens to the "just believe" mantra?

Matthew 7:13-14 tells of the narrow way walkers and the broad way walkers. Are the both believers?

What happens is such person gets a no frills entry in to the Kingdom. Would have no diadems on his/her crown(s) if at all such qualifies for a crown(s)

Broad way walkers, is talking of those toeing the broad way of the world while narrow way walkers, are those treading on paths hardly walked doing right things, at right times and remaining on the right and good side of God when doing them.

Bodydialect57:
The bolded is apparently saying a believer is known by the cross he/she carries, right? If this is the case, what happens to those who profess to be believers but yet will not lift a finger to identify with the cross, talk more of carrying it?

It is an oxymoron, to call anyone a believer, when person such isnt keen to, isnt eager to and/or will not lift a finger to identify with the cross, talkless carry it. Is the Pope called Muslim?

TATIME:
Are you still chatting with him?

So you too have noticed the young buck in the faith gate-crashing into our mutual interaction

TATIME:
I'm done with him, i can sense that he feels naked and want some brotherhood covering but he is rejecting the clothes the brothers are using as covering! He wants to be regarded as a fellow believer but rules guiding the believers he detests.
I have rounded up with him, if he is not ready to abide by the rules guiding the whole association of my JW family globally, he is of course my neighbour NOT my brother in faith!

You problem is you're self-conceited, lol. You need to jump down that high horse you're riding on, lol. I am showing and extending philadelphia to you all, that's all.

TATIME:
Can't you see him quoting John 10:16?

Maximus69 wouldnt contextually know the meaning of John 10:16, if/when you a ministerial servant is lagging behind in understanding it properly, lol. Do you want me to throw in Matthew 15:24 too? Fling in or drop a cat inside a cage of pigeons, hmm, lol?

TATIME:
Yet i'm sure he will never agree with the meaning of that text! Jesus told his first followers that another set is coming up but not of the [same fold], will he agree that it's only 144,000 born again Christians that will go and rule with Jesus in heaven while the remaining Christians (other sheep) live on earth under that rulership? I doubt if he can ever BELIEVE that, yet he wants me to accept him as my FELLOW BELIEVER!

La vida loca, lol. The other set is the gentiles brother neighbour TATIME, lol.

Empiree:
who's your Lord and Savior, God, Jesus or Paul?

After all the free and generous educational sessions you've had from yours truly, the answer to this lame as fart question you're asking, should be obvious to you nah

Empiree:
Do you realize that you don't make any sense in your entire write up?.

If Jesus appears today and you call him Jesus He will not recognize the name......never. We only carry along bcuz that's what you recognize and dialogue purposes.

"My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me."
- John 10:27

"I am the good shepherd. I know My sheep and My sheep know Me,"
- John 10:14

People often call me by my name that's obviously African but pronouncing it incorrectly and/or even writing it down incorrectly/incomplete, but 9 times out of 10, I answer them back, and often without correcting them, lol. It's no big deal and doesnt bother me. It's like saying tomato or tomahto.

It is the heart, our Lord and Saviour of the world sees the heart. He knows His own and His own know and recognise Him.

TATIME:
That's where you're getting it all wrong!

"If anyone claims, “I am living in the light,” but hates a fellow believer, that person is still living in darkness."
- 1 John 2:9

"IThose who hate other believers are in the dark and live in the dark.
They don't know where they're going, because they can't see in the dark."
- 1 John 2:11

"If someone says, “I love God,” but hates a fellow believer, that person is a liar;
for if we don’t love people we can see, how can we love God, whom we cannot see?"
- 1 John 4:20

I do beg your pardon, but this and/or that's really where you're getting it all wrong brother neighbour because there is no exclusivity to who a brother/sister is

TATIME:
The Jewish religious teachers of the first century also thought they're related to Jesus due to their claim as worshipers of the same God [John 8:41] But from all indication it's clear that the God they worship totally differ from the one Jesus worships! John 8:44

When will you JW guys stops this grating habit of proof-texting, erhn. You're quoting John 8:41, but didnt bother to let the next verse John 8:42, give you a total understanding of the narrative going on there. Smh

TATIME:
The same thing is repeating itself today, you're claiming Christian yet you're not in tune with others claiming the same thing. That is Satan at work in you, making you to think you're a brother to the same person you're ever contradicting!

"Dear brothers and sisters, if another believer is overcome by some sin, you who are godly should gently and humbly help that person back onto the right path. And be careful not to fall into the same temptation yourself."
- Galatians 6:1

I am taking cue from Galatians 6:1a above. You wouldnt know or fully understand Galatians 6:1, lol, so dont worry, never mind as your lapse(s) is forgiven

TATIME:
It's either you are a member of the blind Pharisees whose spirit never agrees or the others claiming Christians are the Pharisees contradicting you. Jesus was never blinded by such a deceit, if you're not in tune with him definitely you're not his brother in faith, so whoever agrees with you in faith is your brother not the one just calling the same name out of credulity! Matthew 7:21-23

You've again gone on a proof-texting expedition with abusively quoting Matthew 7:21-23. Smh.

TATIME:
Have you ever heard this before or you just feel like deceiving yourself? Because it's the bitter truth, you can't be my brother in faith/Christ yet having a contrary opinion on serious issues.

"I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them in as well, and they will listen to My voice.
Then there will be one flock and one shepherd."
- John 10:16

Have you ever heard: I can show you the door and even open the door wide open for you, but you must enter by yourself. No one is going to force, shove or push you in, lol

TATIME:
Jesus never appointed a female Apostle because God doesn't reckon with females as equal to males when talking about headship! 1 Corinthians 11:3
As long as we are still in the flesh women are WEAKER VESSELS that's not worthy of some special use [1 Peter 3:7] but after the journey on earth, any female who happens to be a born again Christian will be transformed into a spiritual body which is INCORRUPTIBLE by nature [1 Corinthians 15:42-44] that's when such a female could become EQUAL to males having the same prospect, but as long as we're still in this CORRUPTIBLE flesh God doesn't reckon with females as equal to males when talking about headship! 1 Corinthians 11:7-10

Brother, or is it neighbour you prefer, lol, nobody and/or no one is contesting the headship of the husband, but rather it is your comment you made that God doesnt reckon with females. Remember your "Jesus chose no female Apostle because God don't reckon with females as the prime specie he created in his likeness the way he views males" sic, comment, that stuck out like a swollen red throbbing sore thumb. How can you say God doesnt reckon with females, just like that, erhn?

TATIME:
If the spirit in you wants to argue this, then know now that you can't be my brother in faith/Christ because it's principles based on scriptural truth that binds us together as brothers not some wishful thinking!

"¹²At that time Jesus went to a mountain to pray. He spent the whole night in prayer to God.
¹³When it was day, He called His disciples. He chose twelve of them and called them apostles.
¹⁴They were Simon (whom Jesus named Peter) and Simon's brother Andrew, James, John, Philip, Bartholomew,
¹⁵Matthew, Thomas, James (son of Alphaeus), Simon (who was called the Zealot),
¹⁶Judas (son of James), and Judas Iscariot (who became a traitor)"
Luke 6:12-16

Smh. If you hadnt noticed or know, fyi, I dont do arguing/arguments. What is going on here is having a matured and meaninful discussion here together with a brother but who incidentally prefers to be addressed as neighbour and not brother, lol.

I did previously ask, if you are aware of what "... don't reckon with ..." when used in relation to females means, hmm? I even advised you not to worry answering because I was going to spell out for you what it means. Which is "... don't reckon with ..." when used in relation to females means, to think of females as being nothing important to be considered with. You comment, means females are discounted by God, that they are seen and looked at as human beings not worthy of God's consideration. That is the truth of what your not properly thought through constructed comment means brother neighbour

Jesus asked the woman flung in front of Him, the following questions: "Woman, where are your accusers, Where are they? Is there no one left to condemn you?" The Woman then said, "No one, Lord." and after which, Jesus then said, "I do not condemn you, either. Go. From now on sin no more." So, why after 2000 years of that, are women still having a hard time, and be subjected to crass talk like "Jesus chose no female Apostle because God don't reckon with females as the prime specie He created in His likeness the way He views males" sic huh. Smh

You dont deserve to know, why Jesus in His infinite wisdom did not appoint women as founding Apostles, meaning why we dont have women, like the 12 male disciples, as, one who is originally sent out and/or off by Jesus.

You, TATIME, as a ministerial servant ought to know that all believers are called to share the Gospel and as such whether male or female, they are, apostles, in that sense of the spirit albeit not in letter.

Double post

Empiree:
what's your point?. That Qur'an, muhammad, MUSLIM are invented words?. You wrong.

Here is their Arabic words from the Qur'an:

Islam الاسلام. https://quran.com/3/19

Qur'an القرآن. https://quran.com/36/2

Muhammad. محمد https://quran.com/48/29

Muslim. مسلم https://quran.com/3/102

Yeah you might show Arabic words, but what of when typing and/or saying Koran, Qur'an or Quran, Moslem or Muslim and Muhammad or Mohammed hmm? You must had been smoking some hard substance, where was Isalm contested and/or who mentioned Islam for you to be showing the Arabic word for Islam, huh?

The point, my dear Muslim brother friend Empiree, is that just as there are Koran, Qur'an or Quran, Moslem or Muslim and Muhammad or Mohammed, so we have the name of our Lord and Saviour of the world in different variations, like for instance, Yahshua the original Aramaic name, Jesus, when translated to English, Iesus, when mentioned in Latin, Iesous, when said in Greek, Jesu as referred to in Yoruba etcetera. People often call me by my name that's obviously African but pronouncing it incorrectly and/or even writing it down incorrectly/incomplete, but I 9 times out of 10 answer them back, and often without correcting them, lol. It's no big deal and doesnt bother me.

Empiree:
This is theological fraud. You now changed from Jesus to Yeshua after I exposed your yansh . So Jesus is irrelevant now. Good of you. But I got bad news for you.

MuttleyLaff:
You've had enough of blindly arguing about Cain not making love with his missus in Genesis 4:17, now you want a different dose of education with this cheap shot you're playing at, hmm, lol?

Fyi, its is for inexperienced lay person, man on the street Muslim brother friend like you that we play along that our Lord and Saviour of the world name is Jesus. Each believer that knows his/her onions, will, if you ask nicely, tell you that Jesus' name really isnt Jesus but it is Yahshua. Let it sink with you that, Jesus, is His name in Greek, lol.

"¹⁹Pilate also had a notice posted on the cross. It read: Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews.
²⁰Many of the Jews read this sign, because the place where Jesus was crucified was near the city, and it was written in Aramaic, Latin, and Greek.…"
- John 19:19

My dear learning Muslim brother friend Empiree, at the level you are at and/or for your level, I'll use Jesus when interacting with you anytime and any day, because that's the level you're at, lol. I dont think you at all understood the content of my previous post reproduced up there for you as a fyi reminder, lol. If you had you wouldnt be wasting precious space and time here typing this your ludicrous and pitiful come back, lol. John 19:19 above shows Pontius Pilate, the Roman governor of Judaea, who presided over the trial of Jesus and signed Jesus' death execution by crucifixion, wrote on a placard, nailed to the cross the name Jesus in three different languages, namely in Aramaic, Latin and Greek.

Empiree:
When I look into the verse it reads
She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus, because he will save his people from their sins.”

That's for that. Now let's look at what God says in the same Bible. In the book of Isaiah 43:11
I, even I, am the LORD, and apart from me there is no savior.

This is John's word not Jesus statement

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"All right then, the Lord himself will give you the sign. Look!
The virgin will conceive a child! She will give birth to a son
and will call Him Immanuel (which means ‘God is with us’)"
- Isaiah 7:14

"See, the virgin will become pregnant and give birth to a son,
and they will name Him Immanuel, which is translated "God is with us.""
- Matthew 1:23

It is so amazing that you dont know who Yahsua, that's Jesus for you, really is, lol, smh.

Empiree:
Now sink this in.
10 Simple Reasons Why I Cannot Go Back To Christianity - Fatimah O. Victoria

Fatimah O. Victoria a Nigeria christian Lady who reverts to Islam years ago write on why she cannot go back to Christianity.
She write:...

Is Fatimah O. Victoria, the Nigeria christian lady who converted to Islam years ago, still converted. Get her to come on, so I can knock the bottom out of her "10 Simple Reasons Why I Cannot Go Back To Christianity" I'll expose the falseness and hollowness of her explanation. I directly call her into question, as she is author of this write-up and only she will be capable to defend it, not a third party person, like what you are, my dear Muslim brother friend Empiree, lol.

Empiree:
I INVITE YOU TO ISLAM."

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You are that desperate you just have to sneak in some proselytising, lol, hmm?.

The lake of fire will first need to freeze over before I will consider the invitation to Islam, lol. Thank you very much all the same for the invite. Not, lol. Now sink that in and hold it down, lol.

Bodydialect57:
What's the cost of remaining in the comfort zone for a believer? Will God reject a believer because he refuses to carry his cross and follow Christ?

The cost is you reap what you sow, he/she who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly. We all are capable of different measures of grace and levels of power, though there isnt a limit or rationong of either, some find the comfort zone that that requires littlest effort possible and yields only barest acceptable results as good enough for them.

It is an oxymoron, to say a believer refuses to carry his/her cross and follow Christ

TATIME:
Èmi kìí se omo ìyá è, kó wá omo ìyá è síwájú!

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Jesu, lo di wa papọ, gẹgẹbi idile, ti JW wa ninu ẹ ati kaajẹ arakunrin fun abi si ara wa