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frosbel2:
I feel sorry for you, lol.
See you in the lake of fire

Yeah, be specially there for you and to piss on you to help you put out the inextinguishable flames burning you up.

Maximus69:
My friend you are just deluded and arrogant!

Soot calling snow black. Hilarious.

Maximus69:
If you truly know Jesus never said that then why not just tell donnie that he's spewing gibberish instead of making him feel he is learned?

He at least is learned more than you are

Maximus69:
Jesus taught us that He actually came for the Israelites but not just any Israelite rather for the LOST SHEEP, meaning those Israelites who are feeling remorse for the forsaken of the covenant their forefathers had with God!
John the baptist started this by gathering repentant Jews in preparation for the Messiah (Christ) who will come and teach them how to gain everlasting life!
So the purpose of the Torah ends at the arrival of the Christ, because God never promise them that they can gain everlasting life through their obedience of the Torah but that it will guide them until the Christ who will teach them how to gain everlasting life arrives! {Deuteronomy 18:15-19} God foretold through Jacob (Israel) that the obedience of the people to gain everlasting life will come through a descendant of Judah and that's where Jesus came from! Genesis 49:10 compare to Revelations 5:5

Did HE contest or dispute any of this, hmm?

Maximus69:
So why did Jesus said He came for only the Israelites?

It is because He is following to and adhering to the first come/call, first serve principle

Maximus69:
It's because they're the chosen race who are already familiar with God's rules, standards and principles. They're to receive this principles from the Messiah and teach all other nations, in that way what God told Abraham will be fulfilled "through your descendants all the nations of the earth will be blessed" Genesis 12:2 compare to Galatians 3:8

It is because of the promise made to Abraham they will have the first take in hearing and having the Gospel

Maximus69:
So if a nepotist who's been suffering from inferiority complex now comes from nowhere to start spewing gibberish claiming everyone must believe that Jesus is black for no practical benefits, fully competent and completely equipped Christians will sit him down to lecture him on the purpose of the Messiah!

Is Jesus white then. Is Jesus Caucasian, hmm?

Maximus69:
That's the joke of our century!

It's never stated in the Torah that you can give excuses for defaulting, once you're caught it's EXTERMINATION immediately, it's only when you escape been noticed and your conscience is disturbing you that you will go and offer a sacrifice to regain a clean conscience.

So don't think you're chatting with one of your misinformed churchgoer friends, you're with one of Jehovah's Witnesses, we perfectly understood what exactly the Torah teaches and what the law of Christ means. Both totally differs that's why the Jews in Jesus' days opposed him vehemently!

We both know who on here bar me, is the joke of the century.

Care to show here in Jesus' Bible blood red ink where He commanded that the over 600 plus Mosaic laws are to be kept.

kkins25:
care to tell us how the fuq you know what God planned?

The bible is a snitch. It always tells, besides the promised Spirit of truth corrobates and chips in filling the gaps lol.

Maximus69:
Keep deceiving yourself!

He is strict on what he said, according to him "if you're not practicing the Torah (Mosaic laws) you are doomed!"

With all due respect brother neighbour, I think you are misreading him and taking what he has typed out of context.

No one can 24 7 365 days keep the Mosaic laws. This has been tested and proven insurmountable for humans except for our Lord and Saviour of the worldwide world Jesus Christ who triumphed

Maximus69:
Stop deceiving yourself!

The person you're supporting is speaking directly against what you've been saying all these while on Nairaland, and you think Maximus69 will allow that to go unnoticed?

My friend stop deceiving yourself, the guy said all the churches of Christendom are heading towards destruction simply because they don't believe that Jesus is black!

He said the Torah (Mosaic laws) that Jesus came to fulfill is still awaiting fulfilment by people otherwise God will get annoyed!

He is quoting both Old and New Testament but can't point to anywhere the early Christians performed anything relating to the Torah!

He is quoting Revelations that's talking about spiritual things to mean the real appearance of Jesus!

And you can't tell him that "he's going psycho"!

Why not join him and go straight ahead to tell all the churches in your area that they are heading towards destruction unless they join donnie?

That's why i said STOP DECEIVING YOURSELF!

Maximus69:
OK now i know you're deceiving him!

But it's a sin to lie or restrict speaking the truth to someone going astray when you have the opportunity to speak to him!

He will feel he's doing something scriptural if you don't warn him!

brother neighbour please spare me your sanctimonious self righteous gorgeous self. Prancing about on in here behaving as if your well known aware of and documented fart, smells of deodorant.

Tell me now, do you skin and descale a fish swimming in water, and not yet caught in your hands, hmm, lol. Is that how it's done in JW?

For the mere fact that he escaped from Alcatraz is to be applauded. Other places, he will not be that lucky as he will be excommunicated

Maximus69:
Childishness!
My enemy's enemy is automatically my friend, shey?

Did you by any chance mention "burning away a whole goat" ni? What your problem(s) brother lol, neighbour sef gangan? Smh. Pftt.

Adults are having deliberations and swapping each other's notes, piccolo too is poking head in. No respects nowadays for elders older than you are anymore. Tsk, tsk, tsk

donnie:
you need help.

Also deliverance from that his/her Freudian slip spirit of goathoodness

donnie:
This is the real deliverance message.

Keep up the good work brother.

Jeremiah 20:8-10, by the way, is your text guide. Maranatha, the Lord is coming

donnie:
Of course I left CE. How can I still be there having known this truth?
I came into this truth June 2019 and left August 2019. This truth is like fire! I couldn't stay.

Praise God. Alleluia. Thank you Abba, thank you Father. Ah, all glory be to your Holy Being.

Congratulations brother.

donnie:
I can see this truth is peppering you. It will continue to pepper you even in your sleep, hopefully you might be delivered.

Not many can stand the red pill, they revulse, at the mere sight of it, lol

donnie:
Correct, and the reason you know this is because the scales of witchcraft have fallen off. What I said is the general Christian belief. You can take me up on that

I already took you up on what you typed with the advanced point of a tad small fyi correction I submitted up there.

donnie:
The Messiah came and he taught the Torah (law). That's why he was called Rabbi. He was a teacher of the law. He taught with a spirituality, a wisdom and authority that they had not known.

Our people were and are still under the curses because they broke YAH's commandments. They were forced by the various nations who enslaved them to forsake YAH's laws and commandments because these nations knew that if Israel will keep YAH's Commandments, their oppression will end.

Deut 28:15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:


Read till verse 68 and see the curses: we are the only people on Earth who fulfil those curses. Those impostors did not have yokes of iron on thier necks (verse 48), our people did! Those fakes were not taken into slavery in ships (verse 68) our people were!

It is the same thing today. Rome (Esau) knows who the true people of the book are. They have kept this lie for centuries, because they know our awakeinng is thier Judgment.
This is the true message of the Kingdom, not the European storytelling which we have turned into a business. YAH has started to pour out his judgements on the earth. This truth is coming so you will know why.

Wow, my jaw is literally is still dropped and hanging on the floor. Donnie are you still fellowshipping with CE?

How long ago and/or since when, did you stop taking the beta/blue pill? Wow, I am totally flabbergasted

donnie:
Your interpretation of that scripture shows how much destruction has been done to our people. You cannot imagine that you have been lied to all your life. Scripture is very plain and you are looking for hidden or so-called practical meanings. You don't know me and you speak of practical application?

How can you talk about imitating a man you do not know.

Gbam!

donnie:
Doesn't Christianity paint him as a white man who broke the law and encouraged his followers to do the same?

I have to emphasize skin color because the Spirit does too. That is why John will describe his hair texture like wool and his complexion like burnt brass (Revelation 1:14-15). And if it makes you jittery, you need to be delivered. You are under the spell of Esau (the white man) and you need to be free.

"For God made Christ, who never sinned, to be the offering for our sin,
so that we could be made right with God through Christ"
- 2 Corinthians 5:21

"Christ never committed any sin. He never spoke deceitfully."
- 1 Peter 2:22

"... He was tempted in every way that we are, but he didn't sin."
- Hebrews 4:15b

Whoa, whoa, whoa donnie. Point of a tad small fyi correction here.

Jesus did not break any law(s) nor did He encourage His followers to do any breaking of law(s). If you go over the Bible again and if carefully done, you'll notice that it is the tradition(s) of men that Jesus kicked against and stamped on. Jesus did not break any religious or civil laws during His life on earth.

If Jesus did really break any law, then that will swiftly and automatically disqualify Him from having a status of being without sin or sinless

AntiChristian:
See boasting o! Who is your son?

Of course, you nah.
As for when its of biblical theology of God, you're piccolo, just as if like a son

AntiChristian:
And what do you know?

I know everything that the promised Spirit of truth reveals to me, shares with me and what I am blessed me to know. Praise God. Alleluia.

AntiChristian:
Even your Jesus has a limited Knowledge and you're here bragging.

If I should now again, say: "What do you know". You'll get the hump, lol, smh and because of your inadequacies and dearth, will start saying someone is bragging.

We know that for AntiChristian, everytime, has to be a schooling time, so lets educate AntiChristian that Jesus by deliberate choice has a limited Knowledge

AntiChristian, fyi, Jesus is God, He did not think of equality with God, as something to cling to. Instead, He gave up his divine privileges, as for example, Omniscience, the capacity to know all, to know everything, whether in the past and future.

There is nothing Jesus is unaware of, but since He took the humble position of a servant and was born as a human being, and so though God, appeared on earth, in human form, as in meaning, the person of Jesus Christ, God's Son, this means He'll also succumb to the principle and not rocket science fact, that, fathers will always know things that sons will have no idea or knowledge of. This is a no brainer nah AntiChristian. Kilode? Why dont you already know this?

AntiChristian:
Nonsense and off points as usual!

Of course, you dont fail to fulfil the hopes and/or expectations of you. Well done son. Who is to blame you, when afterall what do you know, lol.

sonmvayina:
Yes.. That is true, that is Enlil.. He is Lord of the command....
But the creator of all and Lord of the old testament was Marduk.

MuttleyLaff:
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If you swallow big bullshit,
you go shít big bullshit, lol

""Declare and proclaim among the nations.
Lift up a banner and proclaim. Don't conceal anything.
Say, 'Babylon will be captured. Bel will be disgraced, and Marduk will be destroyed.
Her idols will be disgraced, and her filthy images will be destroyed.'
"- Jeremiah 50:2

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sonmvayina:
"do not make the image or likeness of anything in heaven..... 2nd commandment, hope you are familiar with it..

I am, but I just hope you do too, lol

sonmvayina:
So if Buhari says nobody should a statue of him anywhere in Nigeria, and I go ahead and erect one in Edo state, and somebody discovers it and tells him and he ask the person to go and destroy it... The person does... Does that mean that Buhari is no longer the President?

Of course you've set off on the wrong foot here, but hey, let me indulge you. To start with:
#1/ Who do you reckon is speaking in Jeremiah 50:2, hmm, lol?
#2/ Who again, what's the name you said is the creator of all and was the Lord of the OT, lol, hmm?

Empiree:
CAN - Christian Association Of Nigeria And Religious Intolerance

We call on Federal govt of Nigeria to investigate extremist group called Christian Association Of Nigeria for it's intolerance and false allegations against various Muslim institutions in the country.

Ths is not the first time CAN accused Muslim groups of violence in the country. They have been caught in the past for wrongful accusations against Jamiu Adegunwa, chief lecturer of Risalatul Haq Dawah International. Please click here to visit his facebook page
and Yusuf Adepoju, Chief lecturer of ACADIP International facebook page

Both Muslim lecturers have been accused by CAN in the past 20 years for violence but authority could not find anything against them and had since advised CAN to stop creating false alarms. Two weeks ago, CAN chapter in Saki, OYO State harassed another muslim lecturer, Ustaz Miftaudeen Arikewusola for "instigating violence" in the community through his peaceful preaching. This is another unfounded accusation by Christian Association Of Nigeria. CAN had been warned in the past for making false charges and disrupting Muslim community. Meanwhile, this is probably 3rd time Christian Association Of Nigeria brought this unfounded allegation against this innocent lecturer.

NIGERIAN constitution guarantees freedom of religion and religious gathering. It is unfortunate that anytime comparative Muslims gather to deliver lectures on religion and welfarism, CAN, summons police and other law enforcement in the country to disrupt their lectures and gatherings. In the subsequent posts you will find response filed by a Muslim to CAN to create awareness to the general public, especially Muslim community in Saki, OYO state and the entire country. Also you will find CAN manifesto that was published in 1994 which blasphemed Islam, Muslims and the noble Prophet Muhammad (sallalahu alahi wasalam). CAN manifesto under the auspices of RCCG -Redeemed Christian Church of God called "Quick Death Of King Fahd of Saudi and Muslim leaders around the world"

CAN accused prophet muhammad (saw) of having HIV and Gonorrhea was the reason Muslims perform spiritual bath before daily prayers. And many more disgusting fallacies made up by CAN/RCCG in the 90s. But Muslims have never responded or sued RCCG/CAN.

Below is complaint filed by Christian Association Of Nigeria against Prof. Miftaudeen Arikewusola and also pictures of the Muslim lecturer.

OAMAJ
please kind push this thread to the front page.

"Jesus burst into tears
(i.e. And the tears of Yeshua were coming)"
- John 11:35

I have gone through all displayed here by my beloved and dear Muslim brother friend Empiree and it was with a heavy heart I finished reading an ultimate departure from and a total betrayal of all Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior of the whole wide world stood for, preached, taught and represents.

This is the work of a few small-minded bigots, indoctrinated sheeple, Far-To-See (i.e. modern day Pharisees) and Sad-To-See (i.e. modern day Sadducees) and the blind leading the blind.

sonmvayina:
When did God plan that he was sending his son to come and die for sins? Because I have been looking through the old testament and never come across such absurdities.

God planned that He was sending his Son to come and die for sins, right from the onset of the programmatic verse Genesis 3:15 and this, the rationale in 1 Corinthians 15:21's, lol "Since a man brought death, a man also brought life back from death" tuned in with.

PS: sonmvayina, for "What is the difference between God and god?.. Please do tell.. They both sound the same way" have you gone through the last post on page 1 at all, hmm?

sonmvayina:
It was written by the Jews, but your comment does give credence to my post.. There is only one God, just the nomenclature that is different...

donnie:
Our people knew and called upon the supreme Creator of the universe even before the colonialists came. But you must understand that we sinned, and we were expelled from our land and the curses continue to this day. What we need now is for our people to return to where we fell from, and not to glory in those same things that brought us punishment and judgment.

Deuteronomy 4
²⁵When thou shalt beget children, and children's children, and ye shall have remained long in the land, and shall corrupt yourselves, and make a graven image, or the likeness of any thing, and shall do evil in the sight of YAHUAH thy ELOHIYM, to provoke him to anger:
²⁷ And YAHUAH shall scatter you among the nations, and ye shall be left few in number among the heathen, whither YAHUAH shall lead you.
²⁸ And there ye shall serve gods, the work of men's hands, wood and stone, which neither see, nor hear, nor eat, nor smell.
²⁹ But if from thence thou shalt seek YAHUAH thy ELOHIYM, thou shalt find him, if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul

"Then Joshua told everyone to listen to this message from the LORD, the God of Israel:
Long ago your ancestors lived on the other side of the Euphrates River, and they worshiped other gods.
This continued until the time of your ancestor Terah and his two sons, Abraham and Nahor."
- Joshua 24:2

Wow, is this the same donnie, known and affiliated to/with CE?

frosbel2:
It's my slip not yours. Let my foot slip. I will take the fall and suffer for it. Mind your business.
There is no eternal lake of fire young man.

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Awesome Methuselah.
So in Noah's days, they also said, there is no flood of water, lol. Call me young man, if only you know my age.

frosbel2:
It's just one of your fantasies unsupported even by your new testament. Surely someone of you calibre should be able to decipher scripture corrrectly and not make things up.

And if indeed your god will throw me into the lake of fire for rejecting a lie, sobeit and I hope it happens in winter, at least I will keep warm , lol.

Suit yourself son, suit yourself sweep it all under the carpet using your Occam's broom, lol

frosbel2:
Lol. Chase me back to the abyss of your fake visions. But I admire your vivid and wild imaginations of dragons, hydra headed monsters and eternal fire. Its just that they are false, fake and mythical. Your dream is not based on truth.

You must be high on some cheap backstreet substance because I dont recall anyone on this thread yet make mention of dragons, hydra headed monsters and whatnot

Empiree:
why you dey lie na after you already pretty much admmited christianity was not started by Jesus and claimed Paul was sent sent himself to the gentiles

O de beru ólóhún iwo many yi

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Where is the lie?
Why are you behaving as if you are uneducated and/or unable to read with comprehension, hmm?

"Tani ika, to ta igbo idọti, to n starch sosi lagbari, fun man yin sef hmm?" Who is the wicked dealer who sold this man cheap and adulterated marijuana to smoke?

When I typed that, there first, was christianity, courtesy of and à la Antioch, then came Constantine christianity. Where is the lie in that? Where in there or in the Bible, do you read that christianity was from Apostle Paul started, hmm?.

I said Apostle Paul never advanced christianity, this is true. I said, Apostle Paul never used the word christianity, this is true. I said, Apostle Paul never used the word christian, this lol, equally also is true. How dare you enjoy slandering the innocents with such blatant falsehoods you keep on peddling, erhn?

Shame on you for not acknowledging from your pasted screenshot grab that it was the people of Antioch, widely known for inventing nicknames that downgrades, belittles, regards or represents the become and targeted object of scorn as being of little worth, no importance and to be look down one's nose at. Case in point, King Agrippa, which I will again share with you soon and next

Please, go through the pages of the Bible, back to back, and come tell us, if you do find the word Christianity in it mentioned and where you've found, the word Christianity is associated with Apostle Paul in it. You must just finished sniffing that hard substance, for you to start making up stories in your head about anyone lying, lol

You are 1000% right my dear Muslim brother friend Empiree, that Christianity is paganism and to tell the truth, was institutionalised by Constantine, and so is a Roman invention. It never and was not brought by Paul from Rome. As a matter of fact, the reverse is the case, because Apostle Paul actually went to Rome with the Gospel, whilst awaiting a trial before the Emperor, Nero. The truth of the matter, is that Jesus in a dream had told Paul, he Paul, will soon go to Rome to preach the Good News and testify of Him, just as he Paul, had done in Jerusalem (i.e. Acts 23:11)

"²⁴At this stage of Paul’s defense, Festus exclaimed in a loud voice, “You are insane, Paul! Your great learning is driving you to madness!”
²⁵But Paul answered, “I am not insane, most excellent Festus; I am speaking words of truth and sobriety.
²⁶For the king knows about these matters, and I can speak freely to him. I am confident that none of this has escaped his notice, because it was not done in a corner.
²⁷King Agrippa, do you believe the prophets? I know you do.”
²⁸Then Agrippa said to Paul, “Can you persuade me in such a short time to become a Christian?”
²⁹“Short time or long,” Paul replied, “I wish to God that not only you but all who hear me this day may become what I am, except for these chains.”
³⁰Then the king and the governor rose, along with Bernice and those seated with them.
³¹On their way out, they said to one another, “This man has done nothing worthy of death or imprisonment.”
³²And Agrippa said to Festus, “This man could have been released if he had not appealed to Caesar.”"
- Acts 26:24-32

Christianity, is not a Paul religion nor has it anything to do, with the reinvented Jesus, you Muslim brothers and sisters have misintrepreted and reinterpreted in the Islamic religion, lol. The litmus test for whether Apostle Paul has anything to do with Christianity or being a Christian, is to go check out the above Acts 26:24-32 audience and opportunity he had with King Agrippa (i.e. a Jew) when on trial before Festus (i.e. a Roman) at Caesarea.

"²⁸ Agrippa sì wí fún Paulu pé, “Ǹjẹ́ ìwọ lérò pé ìwọ le fi àkókò díẹ̀ yìí sọ mí di Kristiani?”
²⁹ Paulu sì dáhùn wí pé, “Ní àkókò kúkúrú tàbí gígùn, mo gbàdúrà sí Ọlọ́run pé kí ó má ṣe ìwọ nìkan, ṣùgbọ́n kí gbogbo àwọn tí ó gbọ́ ọ̀rọ̀ mi lónìí pẹ̀lú lè di irú ènìyàn tí èmi jẹ́ láìsí ẹ̀wọ̀n wọ̀nyí.”"
- Ìṣe àwọn Aposteli 26 Bíbélì Mímọ́ Yorùbá: 28-29

Notice how Apostle Paul sidestepped the Acts 26:28 question and watch his full control of his mind and thoughts Acts 26:29 reply-answer, done in a few well-chosen words, that in a deliberate and intentional way, avoided the use of the word, Christian, lol

Empiree:
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see your life

"Listen! I, Paul, tell you this:
If you are counting on circumcision to make you right with God, then Christ will be of no benefit to you."
- Galatians 5:2

See your life. "O wa lara ẹ" Shame on you for your dishonesty and for misrepresenting exactly what Galatians 5:2 really was conveying and/or talking about with that your misleading and evil intention screenshot you pasted with your "see your life" comment. Smh

sonmvayina:
What is the difference between God and god?.. Please do tell.. They both sound the same way

Oh poor you, that you really dont know the difference between God and god. No wonder you're more confused than a fart let loose on the production floor of a fan making factory, tsk, tsk, tsk

Anyway, this is a very good question, and one such that I have really and truly loved asking other people. I love asking the question, because, it gives a gauge of knowing what they know about that word, God.

sonmvayina, I am not going to jump to defining the word God, without first, laying the groundwork, to pave the way to defining the word God, lol, so to make it is easier, for you and particularly, any interested, to see the road I travelled on to come and/or arrive at this destination definition.

"Their end is destruction, their god is their belly, and their glory is in their shame.
Their minds are set on earthly things."
- Philippians 3:19

sonmvayina, I think I am right to say, we both agree together, that there is only ONE God. There are, of course, many and/or varied gods, as there are human beings, thats talking of someone like you and every other human being, who naturally are gods. Also, now you yourself for instance, can be classified, as a different kind of god because of how adept you are in the knowledge of spirituality.

Moving on, there are human beings/inanimate object/things deified as gods. There is apotheosis or self-deification, as in, meaning, the self elevation to the status of a god so to be worshipped (e.g. Egyptian Pharaohs, Roman Emperors, Shango of the Yoruba mythology, albeit he became god of thunder, lightning and storms after he died, etcetera) There are abstracts, that become gods, when their forces, characteristics and motivations gets a grip on their victims, such that they often end up influenced in unsavoury ways/manners by gods such as the belly/stomach/narcotics/Mammon etcetera. The point, I am making is there the ONE God and there are different types, forms and/or flavors of gods

"I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob as El-Shaddai—‘God Almighty’—
but I did not reveal my name, Yahweh, to them
(i.e. but I did not make Myself known to them by My holy name, Yahweh/Jehovah/YHWH"
- Exodus 6:3

sonmvayina, the word, God, obviously, we both accept and know, isnt the name of God, but is a verb word. Incidentally, the name of God, that is built on from the words for "I AM", is too, related to a verb of action. We know, God is known by what He does and that in Exodus 6:3, is exactly what He was communicating to Moses, that He appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, but they never witnessed/experienced a demonstration of why He, God, is called/known as "I AM" and that the Israelites and any that cross them or tries to prevent the Israelites from getting to the Promised Land will soon find out, lol.

Anyways sonmvayina, here's the much awaited definition of God. There is only one God, just as there is only one water, and regardless of, whether instead saying water, you call it "omi" in Yoruba, "aqua" in Latin, "ruwa" in Hausa or "mmiri" in Igbo, it is the same water that's H₂O in make up. Right? Nobi so, hmm? So, God by definition and/or the meaning of the word God, convey a message, information or import that God, is the force, and is an Uncreated Living, Intelligent, Omnipresent, Self-Supporting, All-Powerful, Authority, Influence, Self-Existing, Infinite being.

Having advanced the above that much, my position further, is God is not a "not-known-number" of person(s). God, as a matter of fact then, is, x-person and so God, in effect is, ∞-persons, as in, meaning, God, rather, is infinite or infinity and not trinity, lol.

God, is a force, an influence beyond scientific understanding lol, someone without any bound, without limit, without an end. God is the first and the last, God oxymoronically has no beginning and no end. God is a supernatural being, someone bigger and larger than any specified number, even three or trinity. This means, dont put God in a box. It explains why God in His infinite wisdom didnt allow the the word trinity to be printed black and white kokoro out in the Bible, lol

Now going to what you referenced and about the point made by (moniker edited out) when he laid bare Matthew 24:36. Well, you've likely, often heard it said, if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself. Something to be done right is exactly what it's all about and so what God did. This is a matter of the classsic diy aka Do-It-Yourself.

God, can send Himself on an errand, and did send Himself to earth, in the form of Jesus Christ because God simultaneously can be in more than one place at a time (i.e. God can be in Heaven and on earth, at the same time) Note that, Jesus didnt correct people that addressed Him as God, for example, where and when said: "My Lord, My God" to Him

Christ cannot share the same body with God the father, because God is formless. God has no clear definite shape or size. Jesus Christ is the product of God projecting Himself as a human being in the person of Jesus Christ on earth. Jesus Christ is the visible image of the invisible God. Why does Jesus Christ need to be a human being on earth?. Fundamentally, it is because one needs a human body to lawfully and have a permitted way to legally operate on earth. God is not going to be a law breaker and be breaking Genesis 1:26-28

Now, though Jesus is God, He did not think of equality with God, as something to cling to. Instead, He gave up his divine privileges. He took the humble position of a servant and was born as a human being, and so God appeared on earth, in human form, as in, the person of Jesus Christ, God's Son, which means, it is a guarantee and not rocket science, that fathers will always know things that sons will have no idea or knowledge of.

""Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered.
"No one is good--except God alone.
(i.e. Only God is good. Only God is truly good."
- Luke 18:19

"Jesus said to him, "Why do you ask me about what is good? Only God is good.
If you want to have eternal life, you must obey His commandments.""
- Matthew 19:17

Let's circle back a little bit, for more illumination, lol. No one, can become God. No one can attain the God status. The God status, the devil learned the hard and bitter way, that the position is exclusively for God only. Ultimately, we'll in the true and good sense of the Genesis 1:26 "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness" comment, become like God, but not become God. Nobody can become sonmvayina, but nothing stops any who so desires, to become like sonmvayina.

There are no possibilities that there are more than one God. sonmvayina, there can be only one captain to a boat, as a boat with two and/or more captains in it, will sink.

OK, how about this then. The words, God and god are synonymous with "influential power," so the word God/god, is closely associated with influencing or tending to suggest an idea of influence

The fact of this matter is, God is a supernatural entity and has the capacity to have positive effects on someone's or something's character, development and/or behaviour and so God is the Affect, that brings about positive effects. If we look at Jeremiah 32:27, it echoes the fact, that Yahweh, is God over every creation, creature or creativity, as in, He is God, in the sense that He influences and/or influenced people, just as much as the devil also will if given a foothold, lol. Now this leads us to touching on the fact that we live in a world of fantasy and reality, where we have gods, that are human constructs. Funningly enough, these other gods, are just as like, in some respects, all God is about, only that, these other gods, due to their essence(s), have their authority limited to each own's sphere of influence.

Inanimate or not alive objects, deified and lying around at a shrine somewhere, obviously are in the list of gods we are touching on here sonmvayina. But would agree that the stomach or belly, that the typical wacky-and-die glutton has deified makes the list of gods? What of the beer, spirits, rum, alcohol etcetera, deified by drunks or alcoholics? What of money deified by chrematistics? I believe to some extent I have conjured an image of the differences between God and god(s) for you, but hope it didnt turn into information overload, lol. Not many like details, lol

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sonmvayina:
Who is destroying me?... So God the Father wants to destroy me, but God the son want to save me.. And these two are one dude... My guy borrow sense..

Have you a trash can, dustbin, refuse bin etcetera in your home, huh?
What do you expect happen to you, if you're rotten, gone off, rubbish, smell stale and full of bad bullshit, erhn?

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sonmvayina:
Lol.. In addition to being stupid, you are also hilarious.. What a wonderful combination.. My name is Sonmuayina are you still going to ask me what it means?..

Yes please, I am intrigued to know what it means, so please what does Sonmuayina actually mean?

sonmvayina:
I am going to answer 4 because I am igbo, but you can interpolate to get the other answers.
CHUKWU simply means great creator or something along those lines..

"²³For as I walked around and examined your objects of worship, I even found an altar with this inscription:
TO AN UNKNOWN GOD.
Therefore what you worship as something unknown, I now proclaim to you.
²⁴The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples made by human hands.
²⁵Nor is He served by human hands, as if He needed anything, because He Himself gives all men life and breath and everything else.
²⁶From one ma He made every nation of men, to inhabit the whole earth; and He determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their lands.
²⁷God intended that they would seek Him and perhaps reach out for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us. ²⁸‘For in Him we live and move and have our being.’ As some of your own poets have said, ‘We are His offspring.
²⁹Therefore, being offspring of God, we should not think that the Divine Being is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by man’s skill and imagination.
³⁰Although God overlooked the ignorance of earlier times, He now commands all peoplef everywhere to repent.
³¹For He has set a day when He will judge the world with justice by the Man He has appointed. He has given proof of this to all men by raising Him from the dead.”"
- Acts 17:23-31

Smh, I cant believe I am left to educating an Igbo on the exact meaning of Chukwu.

Fyi, chukwu, is a product formed from two Igbo words "chi" and "ukwu." "Chi" means god while "ukwu" means huge, big or great hence "chi" and "ukwu" when put together turned into "chukwu" and the meaning great god. The Igbos, just like the Men of Athens in Acts 17:23-31 reproduced above, inadvertently, just and unknowingly, in their general consensus in the existence of a single creator, lol, could be worshipping the true God

sonmvayina:
They are all names of the creator in different languages.

They are title, attributes but not personal name of God. Let that sink in, lol

sonmvayina:
The Jews don't call the name of the creator, the rather use the word Lord or Lord God.

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So? Whats the big deal in that?
Do you call your parents by their personal and/or first names, lol?

sonmvayina:
Because it was forbidden to do so,

Of course you know this is lie. You know you hell has a much better chance of freezing up before you'll produce biblical support that shows anyone for that matter was/is forbidden to call the name of God, the Creator, lol. Why dont you try and prove me wrong by providing your proof, lol

sonmvayina:
only used in prayers inside the temple..

I cant help not lol at this funny guy's antics

Empiree:
Alhamdulilah...it is even clear from your post. Everything you have been saying always starts with Paul and ends with Paul which means christianity is from Paul not Jesus. Guy, there are many flaws in your bible. I even have more that you can not handle. If you read them 1 or 2 things will happen to you. Either dump christianity and just believe in God and never go to church anymore or you dump christianity for Islam. There are several texts in the Act of Apostle pointed to the fact that Paul defiled Jesus and started his own teaching which he taught the gentiles. You already admitted this fact. So Paul is your prophet and your leader not Jesus. I dont think you cant handle pressure from me bcuz you literally abandoned the other thread only to come around today to throw a empty punch. Thats why i didnt bother dealing with you there.

Everything I say, starts and ends with our Lord and Saviour of the whole wide world, Jesus Christ.

Fyi, christianity was never from Apostle Paul. There first, was christianity, courtesy of and à la Antioch, then came Constantine christianity. Apostle Paul never advanced christianity. Never used the word christianity. Never used the word christian, lol. How dare you slander an innocent man with such blatant falsehoods you keep on peddling, erhn?

Empiree:
Jesus already cursed you guys in Isaiah 6:9, Matthew 13:13 and Mark 4:12 bcuz he was not sent to the Gentiles(keferi like you) and he didnt want them to make Heaven that's why he spoke with them in paradise.

For this next bible study instalment, listen real good and proper student Empiree:
#1/ Jesus didnt curse any guys in Isaiah 6:9. Jesus was yet born to cursed any guys in Isaiah 6:9
#2/ Matthew 13:13 and Mark 4:12 is not to Gentiles or keferi, but rather it was addressed to the sons/daughters of the soil, Israelites, the Jews, who happened to be the oppressive Pharisees, scribes, teachers of religious laws, rabbis etcetera with cruel, harsh, authoritarian and bad behaviours or bearings

Empiree:
Christians would read Bible with their eye wide open but they will never understand. They would hear truth which muslims call them to but they will not here neither do they understand.

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Which thread did I abandon, erhn? If you must know, people have been coming in the background begging me to go easy on you, that a sledgehammer is being used on you, when ordinary swat like done for a pesky and tiny insect that you are will do.

Empiree:
Guy, you have been scammed. Leave christianity. Is it not the same Paul who said to abandon teachings of Jesus for something else Hebrews 6:1?

Your lack of comprehension of Hebrews 6:1 is unfortunate.

Empiree:
Which prophecy(woli) taught in previous messages that Paul would be apostle?. Give us the prophecy.

If you are able to provide prophecy( woli) taught in previous messages that the 12 would be apostles, then I happily would consider honouring your request. Mtcheew, smh

Empiree:
Paul destroyed teachings of Jesus and taught different doctrine. He himself confirmed this in 1 Timothy 6:3. ◄ Matthew 15:9 ►confirms the same. Paul's teaching contradicted Jesus'

"¹⁵Consider also that our Lord’s patience brings salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom God gave him.
¹⁶ He writes this way in all his letters, speaking in them about such matters. Some parts of his letters are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.
¹⁷Therefore, beloved, since you already know these things, be on your guard so that you will not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure standing.…"
- 2 Peter 3:15-17

Do you know who penned 2 Peter 3:15-17 above, hmm? The author of 2 Peter 3:15-17 above, was the first person given the responsibility and task to begin extending the Gospel, as in meaning the Good News, to the Gentile, but that person was shuffling feet, the mantle and/or baton got passed on to Apostle Paul

You Empiree, my beloved and dear Muslim brother friend, according to 2 Peter 3:15-17 above, is an ignorant and unstable person distorting whatever and all you find hard to understand about Apostle Paul. You are getting carried away by the error of your lawlessness and your fall far away from a secure standing solid foundation.

May you repent in time and before its too late, so God can have mercy on your impoverished, darkened and on its way to damnation soul

frosbel2:
Says a deluded man to another -
Clowns
I keep saying that Africans lack ORIGINALITY, thats why you folk are "tossed about with every wind of doctrine".

I've been here, registered to post content, as long as you have, if not longer. I know all about your antecedents. Who is who, warned you when you were gravitating to the edge and towards the proverbial slippery slope.

We all know that once you let shitheads slide, they begin to think they can iceskate, lol. Now, you particularly frosbel2, your problem is that you dont that the truth is slippery and wet, that you will potentially slide, but when you do slide, just get up from the fall, dont stay down, lol, but just get up, dust yourself down, straighten up yourself and move along without staying down, because, if you dont, you'll lose the faith and sell your soul to a willing bidder, the devil, lol. You’re heading and journeying straight to the lake of fire brother, trust me you wont finding many admitting to you that you're living in a distorted reality of yours. Repent before its too late. Repent before the Owner of your breath asks of it back. Heed the warning before its too late!

sonmvayina:
There is only one God and one power in the Universe.. It is the name that is different.. The God the Jews worship and call Hashem (not yaweh, yaweh is one of the sons of Enlil,) is the same God Yoruba call Eledumare or olodumare is the same that igbos call CHUKWU.. Etc, the stories you read in the Bible are meant to teach us spiritual truth, the yorubas have theirs the igbos have theirs... You are supposed to read or listen to them and learn the hidden messages in the.. They are not historical or actual events..

1/ What is the meaning of Hashem?
2/ What is the meaning of Hashem signify and/or import?
3/ What is the meaning of Eledumare or Olodumare, lol?
4/ What is the meaning of Chukwu, lol?
5/ Now, what is the meaning of Yahweh, Yaweh, or YHWH, the tetragrammaton, lol?

sonmvayina:
End of the day we are all gods just having a human experience..

There is a difference in being god(s) and in being God, let that sink in

Azazeal007:
The God of the old testaments seems to be warlike, aggressive towards enemy, tough and ready to fight for you if you obey is laws. He is very powerful and proud, He accepts animal sacrifices as atonement for sins and purification.
He never deserts is people during battle, He loves them but they deviate from his teachings, so he punish them severely until they repent. This God is quick to act if called upon He speaks through the likes of Moses Abraham, Elijah, Enoch, Joshua, Samuel e.t.c

On the other hand the God of the New Testament is kind and cool, patient, peaceful and forgiving God. Accepts worship and praises, prayers and fasting as atonement for sins but not animal sacrifices. He is very slow to anger and act preaches by speech and not with sword. He speaks through the likes of John the Baptist, Jesus of nazareth, Paul the apostle, St Peter, St John e.t.c

The big question remains are they the same God or have the God of the Old Testament become more civil in his dealings?

"Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever"
- Hebrews 13:8

God, as much and/or just as Jesus, is the same yesterday, today, tomorrow and forever. God in the OT, is the same in the NT.

Azazeal007:
Why is God so angry in the Old Testament and so loving in the New?

God wasnt necessarily angry in OT. God, of course, was so tough love in OT, lol but then so loving in NT, lol. What the heart knows today, the head will understand tomorrow. Your earthly parents relate with you differently now that you've come of age than when you were growing up, isnt it, lol?

AntiChristian:
The God of the OT was brutal. In the NT He became meek since He's now a man God.

Smh.

sonmvayina:
Different because they are two different religions.. The Jews wrote the tanakh for their religion called Judaism.. The Romans /Greeks came later and super glued their bull shiit story about a dying God to the Jewish scriptures to deceive the gullible...
God promised the Jews a Messiah that will deliver them from their enemies NEVER did he say the had to believe in the Messiah to be saved.. Those hogwash are Roman creation..

You are being saved from destruction. That is the bigger picture you arent looking at.

donnie:
YAHUAH is the same, he changeth not. Christians may want to replace him with their white idol (like the one OP used) called Jesus who promotes lawlessness but we are in judgement time now, and YAH is not smiling. He has begun to pour out his anger upon the earth.

""I am the good shepherd, and I know My own and My own know Me,"
- John 10:14

Jesus Christ, who really is Yahushua Ha Mashiach, know His own and His own know Him

Empiree:
You continue to validate what muslims have long preached to you. That Jesus was not sent to the whole world as bible rightly said but some christians would twist that he was. But below you admitted to this fact again

You're headstrong in hugging and sticking to your delusion sha, even in light of scriptural evidence like Romans 1:16 that states: "... the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile" you still hang pick-axe put for head dont and wont accept a helpful truth, smh.

Empiree:
By who?. Where is your evidence that God sent Paul to mankind?

"Paul, an apostle--sent not from men nor by a man, but by Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead
(i.e. I was not appointed by any group of people or any human authority, but by Jesus Christ himself and by God the Father, who raised Jesus from the dead)"
- Galatians 1:1

Everytime just has to be a school time for our beloved and blessed Muslim brother and friend here Empiree sha. Hmm.

sonmvayina:
So where did it say a Messiah will die for sins... When the prophet speak of salvation, they mean from physical danger.. Just like the passages you cited... When David wrote the psalms, he was running from Saul who wanted to kill him..
David says in psalm 104:29-31, "send forth your SPIRIT, and they are created.. Take it and they die.. The spirit is God's it doesn't need saving from anything, it will return to God at death just as the preacher says in Ecclessiatics 12 :7

1/ Do an exegesis and hermeneutic of Genesis 22:18 for me please, while at it, also please explain how exactly is through Abraham's offspring that all nations of the earth will be blessed
2/ What part of you is the devil after? Is it your spirit or is it your soul, hmm?
3/ When you inhale your last breath, what returns back to God? Is it your soul or is it your spirit, erhn?
4/ The _ _ _ _ that sinneth, it shall die. Please fill in the blank. Sorry no prizes for the right answer though, lol

frosbel2:
There was a time when I spent hours replying people like you with detailed, well laid our arguments. I did this for the benefit of the younger ones as well as deceived believers. I think ample time was spent doing this in the past and very satisfied that the message has been conveyed. Many contacted me privately and showed great appreciation. For me this was a great achievement, turning away folk from delusions to truths.

As for you religious minions, keep holding onto your delusions, not my problem and I don’t care, lol

I've been here as long as you have, if not longer. I know all about your antecedents. Who is who, warned you when you were gravitating on the edge and towards the proverbial slippery slope.

We all know that once you let shitheads slide, they begin to think they can iceskate, lol. Now, you particularly frosbel2, your problem is that you dont that the truth is slippery and wet, that you will slide, but when you slide, just get up from the fall, dont stay down, lol, but just dust yourself down, get up and straighten up yourself. If you dont, you'll lose the faith and sell your soul to a willing bidder, the devil, lol. You’re heading and journeying straight to the lake of fire brother, trust me you wont finding many admitting to you that you're living in a distorted reality of yours. Repent before its too late. Repent before the Owner of your breath asks of it back

frosbel2:
There is no intent on my part to sound like an intellectual or defeat you in an argument.

I make time especially for someone like you, I suffer gladly someone especially like you. There is every intent on my part to go toe to toe, shoulder to shoulder, head to head etcetera with someone especially the likes of you frosbel2, sonmvayina et al. Will happily run you down, down until the dark, chase you back to the abyss of darkness you crawled out from, lol. If I should find you on hypothetically set on fire, I'll gladly hypothetically piss on you, in order to put the fire out, lol

frosbel2:
^^^

Improvised 'truth's to support a LIE. Interjecting MYTHs into the JEWISH scripture which is REJECTED by the Jews as a FRAUD.

Be specific, where is this prophet called JESUS CHRIST? Why did the Jews reject him if this prophet was raised up specifically for their salvation ?

Most of the verses you quoted do not point to Jesus Christ. Stop your fraudulent exposition of a so called faith based on myth. Besdies, if this truth you preach is so foundational to the salvation of MAN, why did 70% of the world not know about Jesus until 1000 years plus after his resurrection, LOL.

Keep deluding yourself Pal.

Delusion fall off you, delusion I pray fall off you frosbel2 and sonmvayina, lol

sonmvayina:
Your insanity is legendary.. So an address to the Jews in Moses time has now become the whole world.. The passages in deuteronomy was referring to Joshua who God raised to continue from where Moses left off..

"¹⁷I will surely bless you, and I will multiply your descendants like the stars in the sky and the sand on the seashore. Your descendants will possess the gates of their enemies.
¹⁸And through your offspring all nations of the earth will be blessed, because you have obeyed My voice.”"
- Genesis 22:18

Try me at your peril. I've got more ammo the sort suited for Armageddon, lol, from where that Genesis 22:18 above came from, lol

sonmvayina:
And the passages you referenced in Isaiah has not happened, or has it?.. Has death been swallowed up..
Read in context, it shows how shallow you are..

Smh, I am sure you have heard or just pretending you've never heard of the second death and the aftermath in the lake of fire, mtcheew, olodo upon twenty.

frosbel2:
He will come back with more convoluted, random quotes intermingled with insults and subtle abuse , all the while pretending to be a holy man of gog.

Take this guy for what he is, a Joker or even one of the biggest jokers on this forum -

This is what happens, when bwoys are sent to do work and to do work thats meant to be done by men with real hard steel balls, not instead what we have here, two puny weak and floppy tools, hiding behind their mommas' wrappers and afraid to outrightrightly mention monikers they are responding to, lol.

Kettle frosbel2 and pot sonmvayina, trying hard so playing and pretending, not soot, lol.