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budaatum:
He seriously did get beat up!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-XWwVNd7GA

Not as close as the beating Dereck seriously got 6 years ago, in the "Tyson Fury vs Dereck Chisora" 2 fight though.

Maximus69:
It's obvious i don't know!

You know you're believing in a lie. You know the wind will blow and your yansh will be exposed if you say what the name of God you believe in is, lol

Maximus69:
So do we still worshiping the same God?

Tell me, what is the name of your God nah, so I can let you know if or if not, we are worshiping the same God, lol.

Maximus69:
Just ask them a simple, honest and sincere question!
What happens to those refused to worship with you?

Nothing is going to happen. I can open the door, for anyone but I cant force or push you in, you must enter by yourself and free will.

Maximus69:
Jesus never attacked any of the Pharisees, Saddusees, Scribes and other Jewish Rabbis of the first century, he lived in PEACE with everyone. It's when they try to say "we're worshiping the same God" without accepting his counsel that trouble arises!

He said all those who refuses to subscribe to his line of thought regarding Worship ARE NOT HIS BROTHERS (even when they're from the same womb with him). Matthew 12:46-49

There you go again proof-texting with Matthew 12:46-49. Smh

Maximus69:
What will become of them?
They will all PERISH! ~ Jesus {John 3:16}

So you're now the judge, jury and executioner rolled into one, abi?

Maximus69:
So Jehovah's Witnesses aren't like religious terrorists who will come and attack you because you refused to accept their faith, they will be at peace with you, always coming to warn you that it's not OK if you're not part of them.

But you are not at peace with yourself and others, for extending philadelphia to you

Maximus69:
Have you ever lead a prayer with JWs?

Yeah, funnily enough when I think about this question, I might have led a prayer with JWs and that's when growing up

Maximus69:
Have they ever come to your Worship center?

There isnt any "No admittance to JW" sign at the door, besides to my knowledge JW arent barred from coming either

Maximus69:
Have you ever thought of getting married or being their in-law?

I never moved towards nor ever was attracted to a JW for thought of marriage be on a radar. I have JWs as in-laws.

Maximus69:
Their central unit of control is the Governing Body in USA, you say they have CAN OF WORMS, yet you're deceiving yourself that this same people are worshiping the same God with you!

Reprint here, where I said the Governing Body are worshiping the same God with me. Smh, Maximus69 you have well crafted this your art of lying sha, lol.

Maximus69:
Sincerely speaking, nobody outside that organization can escape DAMNATION.
That's what their God said!

Sincerely speaking and with all due respect, this is a big fat lie comment you made.

Maximus69:
Great!
So if i don't know the name of my own God and you know yours, and the standards of my UNKNOWN God contradicts that of your FAMOUS God.
It simply means
YOU AND I AREN'T WORSHIPERS OF THE SAME GOD, period!

It doesnt diminish the truth that you don't know the name of the God you profess or you're too ashamed of the God's name, to reveal what the name is, lol. My money is on both I reiterate, lol

I dare you to say what the name of God you believe in is. You can't do it, lol. It's pretty obvious, lol you can't.

ENGINEERG:
God truly helped him, and he knows... Thanks you Jesus our Savior, I pray we will all win too,
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-bESib7fAQ

04:10 ... it happen you know, first and foremost I
04:13 want to say, thank you to my Lord and
04:15 Savior Jesus Christ. I said those who
04:18 bring evil against me will not prosper. I
04:20 said those who stand in the dark
04:22 can never come into the light and praise
04:25 be to the one and only true God, Jesus
04:26 Christ.
04:29 Secondly, I just want to say, big
04:31 shout-out Deontay Wilder, you know he
04:33 came here tonight he manned up. He really
04:36 did show heart of a champion.
04:37 I hit him with a clean right hand and
04:39 dropped him and he got back up and
04:41 battled on into round seven. He is a
04:43 warrior. He will be back, he will be a
04:45 champion again but I will say the King
04:48 has returned to the top of the pole

That right there, all he said at the 04:10 - 04:26 mark is what sets him apart from AJ and why he will defeat and beat AJ if or when they meet.

I love AJ, but AJ goofed when he didnt acknowledge Jesus as his Lord and Saviour of the world but instead, especially in the run up to the Abu Dhabi, capital of the United Arab Emirates Joshua vs Ruiz fight, pandered to the local moneybags Arabs, with remarks like Bismillah (i.e. in the name of Allah) that he'll win and Mashallah (i.e. Allah has willed it) after winning

C'mon AJ, educate yourself on the meaning of your name, lol. For crying out loud, AJ, your name Joshua, is etymologically related to the Hebrew name Yeshua (i.e. Jesus) Wear it on your sleeve AJ!

crestedaguiyi:
That yam is probably not up to 20k in Benue.
What matters most is the intention

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Widow's mite:
a small contribution that is willingly given and is all one can afford

budaatum:
That's ok Max. I guess that's why you can't live in peace with me either. Thankfully, not all JWs think like you as I can tell by the nice JW who lives next door.

Thankfully indeed, not all JWs take stands like Maximus69 does, as my three doors away JW neighbour unlike Maximus69 calls and addresses me as brother. Lives in peace with me and everyone else. His missus supplies me with Watchtower publications. We occasionally share and respectfully have biblical discourses

Maximus69 you need to put on repeat that Franciscan brother, St. Francis of Assisi' inspiring and peaceful prayer made into a song, so you preach God, not by words only but start to, with made clear examples too.

Maximus69:
(1) You don't need to know the name of my own God, as long as you know yours and the criteria he/she gave you to IDENTIFY your fellow worshipers!

You don't know the name of the God you profess or you're too ashamed of the God's name, to reveal what the name is, lol. My money is on both

Maximus69:
(2)OK "Albert Einstein" is the name of your teacher! No wonder we can't agree on doctrines, well that's not the name of my own teacher!

Misquote and contextomy. Smh, will these falsehood(s) ever stop and/or end?

Maximus69:
(3)Aye!

Alaye, aye indeed. Ni ile aye yi, ka sha ma shey daada. I pray that, odo aye, o ni gbé ẹ lọ.

HenryDion:
In other words, God is not "All Knowing", since he doesn't know how we will use his gift to us. If he doesn't know, that means he is not God. If he is not God, what is he?

In other words, you are born again due to the FEAR of hell. The FEAR of suffering after death. Not really because you want to worship or believe in him, but so he doesn't burn you in everlasting lake of fire.
This sums of the backbone of every religion!
Pathetic!

Ola17:
A thousand applause Henry, a thousand applause!

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hopeforcharles:
God is all knowing, but He gave u the power of choice.
He allows you see all the options and make your choices. But He gave u a conscience to guild your choices.

sonmvayina:
So why should He punish you for using the gift of choice that He gave you....
Think before you answer

hopeforcharles:
Because the choices He gave u have consequences. Do good get good, do bad get bad.
He punishes you because despite the fact that you see and can do good but chooses bad.

sonmvayina:
He created us with the ability to choose... So what are we supposed to choose from?....
Life and death I place in front of you...

A moment of choice, is a moment of truth. A&E's experience, is the hardest kind of all teachers. It gave them the test first and they got to have the lecture and/or learn the lesson afterwards, lol.

nlPoster:
What's your definition of curse?

"Then to Adam He said, "Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree about which I commanded you, saying, 'You shall not eat from it'; Cursed is the ground because of you; In toil you will eat of it All the days of your life"
- Genesis 3:17

The definition of curse, from a biblical point of view, has solely to do with an aberration. The ground in Genesis 3:17 above is cursed to
neglect it original and natural good duty because of Adam. Jabez, knowing, that names can say a lot about who you are as a person, approached God to reverse to blessing, the curse of pain his name causes him

Maximus69:
Thank God my Master, Lord and King have laid down the criteria for admitting someone as BROTHER! Matthew 12:46-49

What is the name of this your so called God, thats your Master, Lord and King, lol? I don't mean any aspersions on you Maximus69 by the question but there's just that opportunity for you to tell, for the record and/or for any not in the know, what the name of this your so called God is.

Maximus69:
People whose BELIEFS are flawed, deluded, arrogant, far of from the truth and promoting of false narratives, my Master, Lord and King said they belong to another FATHER! John 8:44

Albert Einstein definitely must have had JW in mind when he quipped: "Blind belief in authority is the greatest enemy of truth"

Maximus69:
I've gotten my own spiritual brothers and sisters in Christ so i'm not desperate to accept anyone as my brother out of delusion!

You are free to pledge yourself to a man-made organization like JW, but the Jehovah's Witnesses organization is not the only or sole channel, God is using today. Now the thing is, time is coming to an end. The Kingdom of God has arrived. Repent and believe in The Good News.

Maximus69:
You may be brother to anybody but i'm not your brother if we're not related by
(1)Birth

=>(check) ✓ Yes

Maximus69:
(2)Business

=>(check) ✓ Yes

Maximus69:
(3)Faith

=>(check) ✓ Yes

Maximus69:
So go and find your brother NOT amongst JWs organization!

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Of course you're right on the money with that brother

Maximus69:
Walahi Talahi this is preposterous indeed!

Hmm, lol. Violating the third commandment, tut, tut tut. Truly preposterous indeed. Smh.

Maximus69:
You yourself said someone belongs to a very flawed man-made organization, that's so deluded, so arrogant and so far off from real truth because of promoting false narratives

But still you're referring to such a person as your BROTHER!

Why not? Why cant I refer to such a person as a brother, if I am throwing such a lifeline, hmm?

Maximus69:
Surely you are against what was written in the Bible book of 2 John 10-11!

Havent you considered that maybe, I love listening to lies, particularly, in instances when and/or where I know the truth and because God has gifted me the spirit of discernment, hmm?

Maximus69:
True Christians were ordered by our Master, Lord and King to reveal whatever secret we know about falsehood {Luke 12:2-3}

I am sure, you realise that what you just there did with Luke 12:2-3, is called prooftexting. Smh.

Maximus69:
So the truth is YOU'RE NOT ONE OF THE FOLLOWERS OF JESUS!

You wouldnt and dont know who a true, proper and/or genuine follower of Jesus is.

Just as Jesus, in the Bible days, had some many followers, so it is today and now. We have so many people follow Jesus. People follow Jesus about for some many and different reasons. It is no different today, to the Bible days, where not all followers of Jesus, were disciples or learners. Of course Maximus69, Jesus has many followers, lol, but "ẹri wọn lẹyin Jesu, no mean say, efry follower pesin behind Jesus, nahin be disciple ooo," lol.

Maximus69, fyi, disciple is on a higher echelon than follower, as far as Jesus is concerned. Many people for various reasons, followed Jesus in the Bible days, and that hasnt changed today or now. Maximus69, here a second fyi and to serve as an epiphany for you. Jesus never mandated anyone making Christians of others, talkess calling themselves Christians. Prove me wrong, by showing me from scripture, where Jesus mandated anyone to make Christians of others, and to be calling themselves Christians, lol.

Maximus69:
There is no friendship between light and darkness. Light reveals all secrets, but darkness hides a lot because darkness itself has so much to hide! John 3:19

It is true, its impossible to stand in the light, while sheltering the JW darkness. It is rather easy to shine in the light but to glow in the dark... that's mastery. You wouldnt understand this, lol. I consciously walk in the darkness, lol, so that others, like you for example, may see the light, lol.

Maximus69:
Jesus chose a multilingual who could reach the heart of people from foreign lands to serve as an Apostle for the nations, and only intellectuals like lawyers can effectively defend the doctrines of the Christ before people who knew the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob true the Mosaic laws, when the same God is no more using the Mosaic laws to connect people to himself! Romans 10:1-4

"Maximus69 Stop deceiving yourselves. If you think you are wise by this world’s standards, you need to become a fool to be truly wise."
- 1 Corinthians 3:18

Maximus69:
I told you that they were all governed by the same doctrines, the only difference is their geographical locations and the people amongst whom they now settle as foreigners.

Not when you're in the Same country Same state Same city Same town Same territory and even most times in the same street.
Yet contradicting yourselves claiming followers of the same Jesus of Nazareth!

"And they bend their tongue as it were their bow for falsehood; and they are grown strong in the land, but not for truth:
for they proceed from evil to evil, and they know not me, saith the LORD."
- Jeremiah 9:3

Maximus69:
Never mind Sir i'm already telling the LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL {Matthew 10:6, 15:24} they're the only set of people who realized that the same God can't be worshipped in different ways!

"Many shepherds have destroyed my vineyard. They've trampled my property. They've turned my pleasant property into a wasteland"
- Jeremiah 12:10

Maximus69:
So if you're not ready to succumb to the same line of thought {1 Corinthians 1:10} then you can't be a member of our Christian family! 2 John 10-11

"The fortress will be abandoned, the noisy city deserted; citadel and watchtower will become a wasteland forever, the delight of donkeys, a pasture for flocks"
- Isaiah 32:14

I am grateful to God, the I AM, for already being a member of the body of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour of the world, why would I want to be ready to join an organisation with no moral compass, except for a Watchtower compass, a very very flawed man-made organisation, that's so deluded, so arrogant and so far off from real truth because of promoting false narratives, hmm?

Maximus69, my brother, this is where I draw the line with this whole can of worms thing and/or pandora box. Please, don't get us, open the can of worms, especially without you knowing how to get the worms back inside. You see, I really have no desire to stir up any can of worms, talkless open a can of worms, especially when I dont even plan to go fishing, lol, so Maximus69, I'll rather we leave matters and let LAWMA come do their work with it. You've had a good run promoting your beloved JW organisation, I have allowed you to uninhibitedly market JW, allowed you to be active publisher, achieve your 10 hours per week expectation, to increase awareness, create interest, generate "sales" of the JW brand loyalty but hey, you really dont want this can of worms opened. Trust me dahling.

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If you, I'll know which button to press, lol.

CaveAdullam:
After exhausting your time, space and energy in a business deal expecting a return share of 50% with your business partner, but only to get disappointed at the end receiving a share of 30% at a sudden appearance of another partner who has been hiding behind the business struggles. This is the pain of a woman who got served a bitter dish during the funeral of her husband, when it was announced that her first son is not really the first after all empirical evidences. Her late husband hid his original firstborn from his legal family.

It is even worst for a husband when he discovered that his first son is not his biological child after many investments, hoping to see him carry on with the family name and legacy. What a pity!

Thank God for latest development in all sectors, the eyes of men are receiving more light. Before you leap, at least make little steps, because everyone will be responsible for his or her action(s) whether done consciously or ignorantly. We are in the 21st century; an age of science, wisdom, knowledge and enlightenment.

Paternity test should be appreciated by women so that they won't cater for a child who is not theirs in the case of birth switching. Paternity test should also be accepted by men to save them the stress of investing in an already failed business(catering for a non biological child as
result of a game of deceit played especially by his wife) even as at from the beginning.

Lets beware of promiscuity because at the end it leads to various forms of chaos. Men of old were polygamous, have many children and live their lives in way that best suits them. But the question today is how many of their children were they able to cater for or give maximum fatherly love or care?
Hey don't get it twisted. Man is "authority and superiority". All subordinates(wife/wives and children) must dance to his tune. However, the sound must be one that won't cause chaos and rebellion in his family.

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CaveAdullam:
Me too, I hate manipulators/manipulations be it from a man or woman. I just damn hate it! It disgusts me!
Let us stride with care. What is good for the goose is also good for the gander.
Thanks.
God bless.
Cc. Martinez39s Omar09, LilMissfavvy, JONNYSPUTE, Michellekabod2, lefulefu, muttleylaff, budatuum.

freedomest:
From recent happenings, you can predict that the future of marriages may be soaked in DNA testing. But it is embarrassing to test a faithful and God-fearing lady, therefore, if you trust your partner so much, and if she has proven high level of faithfulness, no need for DNA testing.

CaveAdullam, thanks for soliciting a comment from me, but I concur without demur with freedomest's above quote

AntiChristian:
You mean like Lord Lugard who amalgamated Nigeria?

In the context of him being an imperialist, yes AntiChristian, Nigeria, was once owned and/or lorded over, when the Royal Niger Company sold its territory (i.e. Nigeria) to the British government for £865,000.

AntiChristian:
Which Jesus is Lord?

"yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live;
and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live."
- Corinthians 8:6

AntiChristian:
How is he Lord?

"I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob as El-Shaddai—‘God Almighty’—
but I did not reveal my name, the LORD (i.e. Yahweh), to them."
- Exodus 6:3

Whenever we come across ''Lord'' and/or ''LORD'' in the bible, each means and signifies different things. The ''LORD'' full capitalisation is a fill-in for the word Yahweh, this is because the Jews to-date feel Yahweh, God's personal and/or official name is too holy or sacred for them to directly utter and/or outrightly write down and that's why until lately, in some bible versions, instead of seeing Yahweh or Jehovah, we see ''LORD'' instead replacing the name

Who are ''they'' who knew the name before that meeting with Moses. Gen 18:3?

According to the bible, God in Gen 18:3, appeared to Abraham as Adonai (i.e. Lord) and Lord, here meaning, Owner, its signifies ownership, same way a landlord signifies being the owner of a house or landed property so God appeared to Abraham as an Owner of Abraham.

Many years before Abigail, used the term, lord is the same adjective, Sarah, used for her husband Abraham too. Lord, is the same word, as previously mentioned, we get the word, landlord fro. It means the owner of a house, apartment, condominium, land or real estate which is rented. Sarah and Abigail, were merely recognising that their husbands are their owners.

"Why am I so honored, that the mother of my Lord should visit me?"
- Luke 1:43

Yes, 4000 years or so later, after Sarah and Abigail, Christ is also Lord to Mary, we see Elizabeth in Luke 1:43 above confirm this

Lord, is from the same root word we get the word landlord from. Same way, landlord is the owner of the land or house, so is, Christ, the Owner of Mary and every other human being. Be continue grinning there like a Cheshire cat, OK. The Owner of your breath, that you AntiChristian breathe, is one day, going to ask off it back.

Maximus69:
Peter was one of the Apostles Jesus chose for the Jewish nation while Paul was the one and only Apostle singlehandedly anointed to connect pagan nations to Christ.

So the technique Paul (a multilingual and lawyer) used would definitely be hard for Peter who was just a fisherman, that's why Paul's technique of teaching became difficult for others to grasp.

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What has being multilingual or be a lawyer have to do with all this, hmm? Smh. Regardless whatever differences they had, there was no hard feelings between Peter and Paul. Peter was a brother to Paul and vice versa, they weren't resentful of each other, the way you continously have shown and expressed to others.

Maximus69:
But it is the same mindset that all the first century Christian congregations had back then, because they were all taught THE SAME THING! Colossians 4:16

Smh, if there werent any differences with the brethren, why then all those flurries of letter written with explanations and admonitions in them, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, the churches at Ephesus, Corinth, Galatia, Rome, Philippi, Colossae, to Timothy, to who are living as foreigners in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia etcetera, hmm?

Maximus69:
The same is happening amongst true Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses) today, the circumstances facing our brothers in Russia differs from what we're experiencing here in Nigerian, the troubles facing my brothers in South Korea totally differs from what my brothers in Philippines are experiencing, yet we are all studying the same materials just like our first century brothers.

Really the above emboldened? Tell this to the marines.

Maximus69:
Today what churches of Christendom are teaching their members are contradictions, so we are no part of such confusion. It is a welcome development if you people label us as CULT, ANTICHRIST and so on than to think we are part of you people!

You know if you're being honest that if anyone has labelled you cult, antichrist or whatnot, it didnt come from my direction

Maximus69:
My friend, all you're here to say is that first century Christian congregations faced different challenges and that's reasonable because they live in different places! Revelations Chapters 1~3

But that doesn't make them hold onto contradicting doctrines and conflicting teachings like what you people are doing today! Romans 15:5-6, 1Corinthians 1:10, Ephesians 4:3

You, Shadeyinka and blueAgent are all Nigerians perhaps Lagosians, your religious organizations are in the same locality yet you're contradicting yourselves, please learn what humility means today.

If your Pastors are humble, they won't continue promoting the spirit of division in your midst, yet deceiving you gullible people that you all belong to the same Jesus!

"⁶As for those who were held in high esteem—whatever they were makes no difference to me; God does not show favoritism—they added nothing to my message.
⁷On the contrary, they recognized that I had been entrusted with the task of preaching the gospel to the uncircumcised, a just as Peter had been to the circumcised.
⁸For God, who was at work in Peter as an apostle to the circumcised, was also at work in me as an apostle to the Gentiles"
- Galatians 2:6-8

"¹⁰That is why, for the sake of Christ, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong.
¹¹I have become a fool, but you drove me to it. In fact, you should have commended me, since I am in no way inferior to those “super-apostles,” even though I am nothing. "
-2 Corinthians 12:10-11

"If anyone thinks he is something when he is nothing, he deceives himself.
(i.e. If you think you are better than others, when you really aren't, you are wrong)"
- Galatians 6:3

"¹¹But when Peter came to Antioch, I had to oppose him to his face, for what he did was very wrong.
¹²When he first arrived, he ate with the Gentile believers, who were not circumcised. But afterward, when some friends of James came, Peter wouldn’t eat with the Gentiles anymore. He was afraid of criticism from these people who insisted on the necessity of circumcision.
¹³As a result, other Jewish believers followed Peter’s hypocrisy, and even Barnabas was led astray by their hypocrisy.
¹⁴When I saw that they were not following the truth of the gospel message, I said to Peter in front of all the others, “Since you, a Jew by birth, have discarded the Jewish laws and are living like a Gentile, why are you now trying to make these Gentiles follow the Jewish traditions?
¹⁵“You and I are Jews by birth, not ‘sinners’ like the Gentiles.
¹⁶Yet we know that a person is made right with God by faith in Jesus Christ, not by obeying the law. And we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we might be made right with God because of our faith in Christ, not because we have obeyed the law. For no one will ever be made right with God by obeying the law.”"
- Galatians 2:11-16

"¹⁵Consider also that our Lord’s patience brings salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom God gave him.
¹⁶He writes this way in all his letters, speaking in them about such matters. Some parts of his letters are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction."
- 2 Peter 3:15-16

My dear brother friend Maximus69, it's not only that the first century believers faced different challenges, but that they also had differing views, yet lived at peace together with each other. Notice from 2 Peter 3:15-16 above, Peter confirming that Paul's views, some parts of them, are hard to understand etcetera.

sonmvayina:
A word is enough for the wise.. Go on wallowing in your ignorance... When the time comes you will unlearn.. And relearn.. Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKX2fF5LAw4

sonmvayina:
Ode... Isaiah 53 is about Israel, ... Okpe

Ode... Wow, now that is a very naughty word from what I know what the meaning of it is and this coming from a supposedly intelligent person that you so believe and think you are, smh. Tbh, I am almost was first upset by you calling me such name, and immediately set off to retaliate and respond in kind but then I remembered that sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me, so means, you can have your "Ode" and "Okpe" words back and shove them up your where the sun don't shine, lol.

With that out of the way, now on to the business at hand. So according to "knowledgeable" not, sonmvayina, lol, God has only one that's called servant, and that is in the person of Israel. I just love how our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and the Apostles (e.g. Peter, Paul etcetera) usually backtrack, go down into scripture (i.e. the old Testament) and then, either verbatim quote from them or paraphrase them. They demonstrate that the New Testament indeed, is in the Old Testament concealed, and so therefore go about revealing the Old Testament, in the New Testament, paraphrased. Praise the Lord. Alleluia. God is Good jor.

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sonmvayina:
The servant is suffering because of what was done to him.. It is not even a prophesy, it was what the gentle will say when they discover that Israel was innocent and right all along..

"¹³Behold, My Servant will prosper;
He will be raised and lifted up and highly exalted.
¹⁴Just as many were appalled at Him —
His appearance was disfigured beyond that of any man,
and His form was marred beyond human likeness—
¹⁵so He will sprinkleg many nations.
Kings will shut their mouths because of Him.
For they will see what they have not been told,
and they will understand what they have not heard"
- Isaiah 52:13-15

"¹Who has believed our message?
And to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?
²He grew up before Him like a tender shoot,
and like a root out of dry ground.
He had no stately form or majesty to attract us,
no beauty that we should desire Him.
³He was despised and rejected by men,
a man of sorrows, acquainted with grief.
Like one from whom men hide their faces,
He was despised, and we esteemed Him not.
⁴Surely He took on our infirmities and carried our sorrows;
yet we considered Him stricken by God, struck down and afflicted.
⁵But He was pierced for our transgressions,
He was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was upon Him,
and by His stripes we are healed.
⁶We all like sheep have gone astray,
each one has turned to his own way;
and the LORD has laid on Him, the iniquity of us all.
⁷He was oppressed and afflicted, yet He did not open His mouth.
He was led like a lamb to the slaughter,
and as a sheep before her shearers is silent, so He did not open His mouth.
⁸By oppression and judgment He was taken away,
and who can recount His descendants?
For He was cut off from the land of the living;
He was stricken for the transgression of My people.
⁹He was assigned a grave with the wicked, and with a rich man in His death,
although He had done no violence, nor was any deceit in His mouth.
¹⁰Yet it was the LORD’s will to crush Him and to cause Him to suffer;
and when His soul is made a guilt offering,
He will see His offspring, He will prolong His days,
and the good pleasure of the LORD will prosper in His hand.
¹¹After the anguish of His soul,
He will see the light of life and be satisfied.
By His knowledge My righteous Servant will justify many,
and He will bear their iniquities.
¹²Therefore I will allot Him a portion with the great,
and He will divide the spoils with the strong,
because He has poured out His life unto death,
and He was numbered with the transgressors.
Yet He bore the sin of many and made intercession for the transgressors."
- Isaiah 53:1-12

"Instead of this, of his own free will He gave up all He had, and took the nature of a servant. He became like a human being and appeared in human likeness.
(i.e. Instead, He gave up his divine privileges; he took the humble position of a slave and was born as a human being. When he appeared in human form,
But he stripped himself and took the form of a Servant and was in the form of the children of men, and was found in fashion as a man)"
- Philippians 2:7

I bet you formed this naive and again, another lazy opinion, after gorging on wikipedia, to then, smh, come regurgitate and spill out here. How many times do you need reminded that context is king, huh? You destroyed the meaning of Isaiah 52 and 53 by your incomplete study of both them. Your lack of proper understanding of Isaiah, Chapter 52:13-53:12 left you imposing your utterly absurd and/or ridiculous opinion(s) particularly on Isaiah 53.

Your half baked study, didnt let you realise that there exists something called dual prophecy, which implies present and future application. Apostle Peter, in 1 Peter 2:21-24, paraphrases Isaiah 53:1-12 and declares fulfillment of the Messianic prophecies in Jesus Christ.

From the Bible, we read that whilst being lead to His death, Jesus was spat on. He was blindfolded, then repeatedly slapped and struck on the head. People along the street leading to Calvary, pulled out the hairs of His beard, as in, tear out or ripped out His beard from Him, as He walked by, carrying His cross.

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Other bible passages, further, even said, Jesus was not just ordinarily beaten but that He was extraordinarily beaten up. He was beaten up beyond recognition, such that, those that looked at Him in this state, recoiled back, horrified with shock at His appearance, because He was so disfigured that He didnt at all resemble a human being anymore, as in, He hardly at all, looked like a human being after the grievous bodily harm assault (GBH assault) on Him. He fugly, literally was completely panel beaten up beyond ever being recognised to be a human being. He was extremely beaten that horribly bad, that His appearance didnt look like anything that would pass for a human being.

sonmvayina:
God already told you who his servant is in 41:8-9, it is talking about a servant not a son.. Okpe

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So what about Isaiah 41:8-9? Havent you read and carefully thought about Isaiah 49:3 and Isaiah 49:5 ni? OK, lets reason this together now then. Lets be logical together, lets take it if we could and get to understand all this but that's if at all, if you can manage though.

Yes sonmvayina, I agree along with you and without demur, that at Isaiah 41:8-9, it is talking about a servant not a Son, but Isaiah 49:3 and Isaiah 49:5, is talking of another Servant, deliberately also named Israel, and commissioned with a task, to bring another Israel, back to God, as in meaning, to restore a preserved of Israel. Now, remember sonmvayina that, context is king, well check out Isaiah 49:6, that says: "You will do more than restore the people of Israel to me. I will make you a light to the Gentiles, and you will bring my salvation to the ends of the earth."

To be called Israel, is not an exclusive rights to only Jacob or the Israelites. It is up to God, to call whomsoever He so deem fit and/or qualifies on merit, to be called Israel. It is a God's prerogative, to have anyone selected to serve Him

You are dwelling in emotions, making asinine remarks, calling people "ode" etcetera and restricting yourself to Isaiah 41:8-9. Sure, Isaiah 41:8-9, indeed is about the nation of Israel but not Isaiah 49:1–9 isnt my friend, lol. You cant, not especially with Isaiah 49:3 and Isaiah 49:5, can you equate those two verses to be the nation of Israel. The Messianic prophecies about Jesus Christ is glaring in there brother, lol.

kkins25:
Show us from the Old Testament where it was prophesied that a Jesus was to die for the sins of human kind.

Isaiah 53:1-12 QED. Trust you to always rely on others to lift up the floorboards for you to see under, without you not lifting so much of a finger yourself.

Maximus69:
My friend, all you're here to say is that first century Christian congregations faced different challenges and that's reasonable because they live in different places! Revelations Chapters 1~3

But that doesn't make them hold onto contradicting doctrines and conflicting teachings like what you people are doing today! Romans 15:5-6, 1Corinthians 1:10, Ephesians 4:3

You, Shadeyinka and blueAgent are all Nigerians perhaps Lagosians, your religious organizations are in the same locality yet you're contradicting yourselves, please learn what humility means today.

If your Pastors are humble, they won't continue promoting the spirit of division in your midst, yet deceiving you gullible people that you all belong to the same Jesus!

You're so much trying hard playing the fireman role, putting a lot of effort trying to put out fires onslaughting you.

Wait now. Wait for when I be properly back in the late PM or thereabouts today to give you the deservedly education you obviously badly need. When the wind blows, fowl yansh got to get exposed, that na dandan, thats guaranteed, lol

Maximus69:
Keep deceiving yourself!

I was born bread and brought up as a Muslim, travelled to so many places and what i'm saying now is exactly the situation everywhere. The one and only religion that's practicing LOVE amongst themselves is Jehovah's Witnesses!

As regards someone saying me me and me, please that's what Jesus did NOT Maximus69. What i am doing now is telling you that "Jesus of Nazareth is not two but one person, he claimed to be the one and only teacher whose doctrines can lead us to salvation, he foretold of a time when the earth will be filled with credulous religionists claiming Christians, he warned honest hearted readers to be careful of the groups they associate with and finally he gave us clues to IDENTIFY his own group during the end time, today it's obvious that Jehovah's Witnesses are that single group practicing what that first century teacher taught his followers back then"

So stop mixing it all up as if light and darkness fits in one place, Jehovah's Witnesses organization made lots and lots of mistakes just as Jesus' first century Jewish followers and their contemporary followers of Christ in other lands did, yet that doesn't mean that all religions claiming worshipers of God back then truly belong to the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob.
It's either you take it or leave it, i'm not Jesus who monopolized divine wisdom, all i'm saying is "i've found Jesus' group"

Mind you Jehovah's Witnesses come knocking your doors confidently because we expect to meet our brothers and sisters (peace loving worshipers) in all the corners of the earth, that's why we feel at home when we find them! Matthew 10:11-15

Maximus69:
When i told you guys that none of you is a Christian it sounds as if i'm judging you people!

Three of you have been arguing ever since on the same subject and none of you is ready to succumb to the other's opinion, yet Mr MuttleyLaff kept saying JWs makes mistakes. Now which of you is right so that the others could agree to his opinion of the issue on ground?
Obviously none!

Yet you want us to accept you arrogant people as part of the Christian family!

For your information, Christians simply connotes humans who strongly believe that they're sinners (prone to error) and looking for means of correction, NOT arrogant people who just want to hold onto his own ideas without any reproof.

That's why i suggested all of us should succumb to MuttleyLaff's ideology but he himself quickly rejected it, meaning he is not even sure of what he is saying. Yet if someone should ask any of you guys how you got the ideas you'll say "Na God's holy spirit teach me".

So in a nutshell,you guys make God's word sounds preposterous before pagans by not agreeing with one another yet claiming the support of God's holy spirit!

What a crass public display of wanton ignorance, smh. The entire content of both posts smelled of like a gust of wind from Satan's anus. You are lucky that I am preparing to go out for work, but dont feel safe, because its a temporary reprieve, as I will be back in the late PM or thereabouts today, to let out the wind in your sails, and educate you that the early church, had differences and still live together in peace with each other as brethren, unlike you, who keeps trying hard to advance that JW's farts dont stink or smell. Smh

sonmvayina:
The idea of somebody dying for the sins of others did not originate from God

I guess you're oblivious of Genesis 3:15, Genesis 22:18 etcetera then, hmm?. Or did the Romans add Galatians 3:16 too, lol?

sonmvayina:
... it is a pagan ideology that the Romans added at the end of the Jewish scriptures...

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You know you can do better than just simply typing that it is a pagan ideology that the Romans added at the end of the Jewish scriptures. Where is the pagan ideology that the Romans added at the end of the Jewish scriptures?

sonmvayina:
God already provided a solution to the problem of sin in 2nd Chronicles 7:14...

I have enough times, read you in the past typing this mischievous and lazy nonsense and this is about reading you putting forward just 2nd Chronicles 7:14. Not only interpreting it wrongly but also interpreting it out of context. Have you, deliberated over 2nd Chronicles 7:13 and/or 2nd Chronicles 7:15, in conjunction with 2nd Chronicles 7:14?

Friend, context is king, when you read bible verses in isolation, you just like you've done, are reading and understanding it under pretext and with an agenda to deceive, mislead and misinform with false and/or inaccurate information. Tut, tut, tut. Please you might have been typing this your lazy and not well thought through 2nd Chronicles 7:14 nonsense misinterpretation with others, but don't think you'll get away unchallenged with me.

MrBrownJay1:
what else but some gay dude would send you a message that says:
"i am taken by your beauty, what can i do to please you bla bla bla?! ... and if you are not gay nor interested in his rubbish, blocking him should be the only thing you need to do... without even giving a single reply to his rubbish.

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Maybe felt flattered, hence why shared it here

ProfessorBerlin:
Because she dey sing gospel songs come mean say she no go dance soapy again abi.
Na human being she be, she self dey fvck

2dice01:
Freeze has lost it
Can't she dance in peace
Holier than thou Gang do worse in their closet

Bigmanpickin:
Can people actually mind their businesses in this age and time mbok

LearnITsmash:
Yeye dingbats will crowd this useless thread to bash daddy freeze without even confirming if he really said these things, or maybe the op is lying looking for cheap attention

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Are you trying to say that you didnt read the part where OP typed "Reacting to the video, Freeze in a now deleted post, said he did ... "

Sexyliciousbri:
Some body will just be talking unnecessarily nd senselessly on social media, but when you eventually open his own head...... You see Empty coconut with no brain inside..........mtttchhwww

MuttleyLaff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA_qilafKdo

Dont mind them "agbeborun" dem dem. She danced similar with her daughter, at her husband's birthday party, she also danced similar, again with her daughter, at her daughter's own birthday. So what's the fuss about, if she now dances similar at her dad's burial

Well, I still like Freeze, but it just shows that Freeze is just like the rest of all humans and he doesnt walk on water, lol

MrBrownJay1:
you shouldnt have replied his initial msg.... thats a dude sending that shiit. why even reply?!

There isnt anything wrong with replying back to the unsolicited initial message. He guessed right the dude's sexuality, then went on, to itemise to him things what can make him happy. I just wonder how he managed to get flashed and be complimented with the "I am taken by your beauty... what can I do to make you happy" blah de blah.

sulasa07:
When someone cannot save Himself on the cross, how will He be able to save others.

"... you are to give Him the name Jesus, because He will save His people from their sins."
- Matthew 1:21b

What really and specifically are you totally, completely and wrongly taking for granted that He, on the cross, ought to save Himself from?

sonmvayina:
Million Dollar question..

The real million dollar question that should please stand up, and to ask a question, to the effect of: why would anyone ask such a sulasa07 invalid question and especially one, that's based on what is a false premise and/or totally, completely and wrong assumption?

Maximus69:
Only a JW can migrate to any part of the earth with full confidence that he is still at home as long as JWs are in the place he is going!

You can continue deceiving yourself, none of the other religionists you mentioned up there can confidently travel to a strange land and demand for his brothers in Faith to welcome him home as their family member just because they both belong to the same Religious group (denomination as you people ofter refer to yourselves)

WHY?

Because your faith is not strong enough to bury racism and politics that's causing deadly conflicts in your midst!

So even if you meet a member of your religious organization in another state here within Nigeria, the fear of tribal prejudice will never allow you to walk up to him and expect to be treated as a brother, unlike a Jehovah's Witness who will boldly knock on any door to find his brothers and sisters, and feel at home once he discovered they are Jehovah's Witnesses, the love in our midst has killed RACISM and POLITICS so whenever you find a JW in any part of the earth, know that Maximus can eat, drink and sleep confidently in MY BROTHER'S HOUSE!

Hope you too can do the same!

Scatterred all over the above post is, me, me, me, JW this, JW that and JW only, so lets hold a moment of silence for someone desperately gasping for air of attention. People should never like this "me, me, me, JW this, JW that and JW only," way, think too highly of themselves, else they'll crumble. Not fall, but crumble. The most dangerous liars, are the ones who are convinced that they are telling the truth, puffed up and hyping that they are the best thing since sliced bread. Smh.

I'll any day, eat, drink and sleep confidently even sleep with both eyes shut, with a JW, the Methodists, Baptist, CoE, Aladura, C&S, Penterascals/pentecostals lol, charismatic, Seventh Day Adventist, Latter-day Saints etcetera, and expect to be treated as a brother by all, or vice versa, so shows, you only know me, as you see me, not as I actually am. Nwanne, dont bank on what you know, as you won't find me, wading in water shallow ends, lol, you'll have to look for me in deeper pools, lol. You know my moniker, but really, you have no idea who I am, lol, this is why you're shooting off your mouth and needlessly talking too much in a loud and uncontrolled manner. You just proven that, many have an image of me and that few get the picture. If you don't know me, you don't know me

Its baffling, why you keep throwing stones, when you know you live in a glass house. Oh I am sorry, I almost forgot JW havent got skeletons in its cupboard. JW gives off scents like as if coming from a pot of sweet smelling pot pourri or from bunch of sweet smelling roses

Maximus69:
Opening skeleton is not what Jesus sent Christians to do Sir!

Because humans will always make mistakes until we attain perfection, that's why Jesus never said his followers will not commit blunders, but no matter what, they'll always stick together with one mind!

So stop thinking that the PAST MISTAKES of God's people makes them equal to pagans who aren't in agreement even within themselves!

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Ogbeni, nobody said anything about opening skeleton.
One of the facts, mentioned, is that, if you leave the closet door open, are you sure JW skeletons wont fall out, lol

Oh-oh, so you know people and/or followers will and do commit blunders, and that, no matter what, they'll always stick together with one mind, erhn? Like the JW, the Methodists, Baptist, CoE, Aladura, C&S, Penterascals/pentecostals lol, charismatic, Seventh Day Adventist, Latter-day Saints etcetera do.

No matter how much deep JW skeletons are buried, no matter how much sweet smelling lavender is poured upon the skeletons, the stench of rotting fish head, still stinks and reaches sky high, so dont come up here pretending JW smells of roses. In fact, be careful, up there, on your high horse, its a long way down to fall from, lol.

chrisnwoke1:
This is the advice I gave to a Zambian gay...
Please read the snapshot and be wise too.

chatinent:
'I like your beauty.' On a beard face? Lol.

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Maximus69:
PEACE can't work without AGREEMENT! 1 Corinthians 1:10

That's why honest hearted and sincere individuals stick to the one and only global group that's in agreement with themselves! John 17:20-23

Just point to any group that's in total compliance to the rules governing them and see if they will not have PEACE amongst themselves! Philip 4:7

If we don't love you people, we won't be coming for peace talks with you IN YOUR HOMES, but as long as you people aren't friends of Peace, you can't be our friends! 2 Corinthians 6:16-17

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Àlàyé, this wobbly table you stand on, wey una wan disturb shake, you go fall yakata for ground wound ooo. I'll advise you to back down and don't throw stones at your neighbors, if your own windows are glass.

1/ Do you see denominations at each other's throats and not at peace with each other?
2/ Have you seen any self respecting matured mind come on to drag other individuals through the mud because of differing faith, huh? (i.e. refer to: Romans 14:1-12)
3/ I am 1000% sure, you're familiar with the saying: if you live in a glass house dont throw pebbles, or you want to say that JW hasnt got skeletons its closest that would fall out, if we should open the closest door ni, lol?