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Politics › Re: Sanusi Dethronement: Th One And Only Major Takeaway. by MuttleyLaff: 3:24am On Mar 10, 2020

NGpatriot:
Your boss is your boss anytime, any day and there can never be 2 OGA in any equation and you can not engage your boss in any fight and not get bruised or sacked.

Nigerian youths, do not learn the wrong lesson regarding what transpired in Kano. If because of your misplaced emotions, political or tribal considerations you can not respect your boss or yield when necessary, you better fall in line, resign or get sacked.

Your boss hired you and he can sack you as needed.

If you don't agree with me, feel free to test your power, go to work tomorrow, raise your shoulder and play tug of war with your boss and see how fast you get sacked.

Bosses don't bow down before their subordinates, it's the other way around, but Sanusi the well-educated ELITE ignored this critical reality.

Sanusi let his ego get the best oh him, he forgot that in Kano, the governor with the ultimate power to install and dethrone, to hire and sack is the real boss with the last say.

Insubordination and disrespect will get you sacked anytime, any day, Emir or no Emir. .

The Emir I think deliberately embarked on a kamikaze that HRH himself knew the crash could put an end to his emirate reign. Deliberating ignoring call ups to government functions, departing from protocol by sending HRH's daughter uncovered and to represent him instead of government officials, not taking a public apolitical stance, not keeping his politics know only in private, lol. the list goes on according to Kano State government

The one and only major takeaway is that HRH Muhammadu Sanusi II, allowed HRH's heart rule over HRH's head, and this à la kamikaze dearly cost HRH the emirate

Christianity Etc › Re: Boxing Champion Wilder Challenged Jesus Christ And Regrets It. by MuttleyLaff: 2:48am On Mar 10, 2020

Eviana:
I have come back calm and level-headed.
Well, in actuality sometimes I do not know when you are playing devil's advocate and when you are being serious.
So much deception in this section, you know.
I actually didn't think that Acehart's reply deserved to be crossed-out or place in the trash.
That was inappropriate.
I think it was well-written.

I just did not understand your use of Jacob, Paul and the Saviour of the world..in comparison to a sport called "boxing"?

I was extremely puzzled...still am.

You see Eviana, take for instance, about ".. sometimes done in a questionable way ..." is maybe because when you hear hoofbeats, you sheepled conventionally and dogmatically think of horses, but I go all out to check and see, if its zebras and/or wildebeests, lol.

I dont think Adam too understood what the Omniscient God, lol, meant, when the Omniscient God, called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou? Just straightaway answer the questions, quit trying to make sense of it first before giving the answers, lol.

Good to hear you return back in calm and level-headed mode, lol. You're right on the money about so much deception in this section and Acehart. The deception is not limited to this section just alone.

Oh yeah, Acehart's reply richly deserved to be crossed-out and dumped in the trash. From what I read that was a toxic and naughty thing to type, and that supposedly coming from an intelligent person who is yearning and/or learning to spiritually better himself and guard against false pastors. Pftt. You noticed I didnt dignify him much, but just returned back to him, his unappreciated "compliment" with where to shove it and wished him a good evening, lol

I didnt ask you to understand, I only asked for your answers to the questions. First things, first please, dahling.

Eviana:
I have not checked out the Manny Pacquiao video.
I have heard of him though and his philanthropic nature.
He is retired from boxing now, correct?
What is he doing now?
Perhaps I should research him.

Smh. Its not even up to a 60 seconds long clip. It wont break your bandwidth bank nah

Eviana:
I was initially interested in this post because, as I said earlier, the fight had been the "talk of the town" here in the U.S. for awhile.
It had been doubly interesting to me because of the spiritual aspect between the two.

I would never have guessed right you're in the States. You say, you dont live under a rock, but with remark like this sort, sounds like you live a sheltered life, but that might be wrong sha.

Eviana:
Mr. Wilder's dad is a pastor...which I found out from my research.
I still will keep both men in my prayers....

"... Work hard to show the results of your salvation, obeying God with deep reverence and fear.
(i.e. ... work out your own salvation with fear and trembling,)"
- Philippians 2:12

Salvation is personal. Your papa's salvation wont save you, your grandma's salvation wont save you.

Yeah, as I previously typed, keep Ephesians 6:18 praying, and especially for Deontay, pray for him to either put a lid on his wayward lips and/or keep his mouth utterances' in check

I dont think you really and fully understand what transpired here. This wasnt or isnt an ordinary spat you know. You should ask or better still go research to find out what did Tyson say that made Deontay declare, throw down the gauntlet and kept on saying: ".. its going to be your God against my god... your God against my god... your God against my god "

Deontay, for mixing his first love, juxtaposing his faith with ancestral spirits etcetera, is a man, more confused than a fart, let loose on the production floor of a fan making factory.

Tyson Fury, was right when he, Tyson confronted Deontay, telling him that Deontay believes in something he, Tyson doesnt believe in. Tyson further told Deontay that, he Tyson, needs nothing to come inside him, except for only the power of God from above, that he gets his power only from God and dont need a second person or anything else like that, to come enter him and help him. It was upon hearing all this, that the demon voiced out, to do the eyes bulging, wide eyed staring and pulsating face "... there's only one Bronze Bomber, there's only one Bronze Bomber, there's only one Bronze Bomber .." shouting. Smh.

Christianity Etc › Re: Boxing Champion Wilder Challenged Jesus Christ And Regrets It. by MuttleyLaff: 12:07am On Mar 10, 2020*

Eviana:
Oh,
How did you do that?
I see you have my original post...which I thought I had erased because you hadn't replied yet.
I thought I had been too harsh, or too "emotion-filled", so I erased certain parts and cleaned up others...lol.

The modified post before its edit, was emotionally charged written just as much as your first original and/or main post, if not more, was, lol. The first sequel post to your original/main post, was you reacting quickly to type and so ended up, gung-ho, all guns blazing, shooting from the hip upandan the whole place, lol

Eviana:
But I see they've been re-birthed.
This is the internet, after all...

Yep, the internet keeps receipts dahling, lol. Does tell, of course, will snitch, and that's even, without at all nicely being asked to please snitch, lol

Eviana:
You and I have had our doctrinal differences, and probably will have some in the future but ...

Well, fyi, I tend to see similarities in people, and not necessarily mope over the differences

Eviana:
... I can respect your willingness to discuss the Bible in depth rather than at surface level...although sometimes done in a questionable way.

Hey Eviana, we must be in the "fyi" season, lol, because, another fyi is this: Strength lies in differences, not similarities, as some do think, lol. Differences, are not meant to divide us, not intended to separate us, not be used to alienate, we are different, precisely for the sheer reason to realise our need of one another. The short person needs the tall person, the poor needs the rich, the poverty stricken needs the wealthy, the sick needs the healthy, etcetera needs etcetera and/or vice versa

Oopsy daisy, another fyi coming up, is that, I hardly do "surface level," and its mainly because, that will be depressingly dull, bleak and/or boring, so if tbh, more often than not, you'll find me, with my head buried inside the lifted up bonnet, hands dirtied up, from unearthing and looking around inside, for what to grab and bring up to the surface, lol, to questionably look at.

You see Eviana, ".. sometimes done in a questionable way ..." maybe is because when you hear hoofbeats, you sheeple conventionally and dogmatically think of horses, but I go all out to check and see, if its zebras, lol.

Eviana:
I'm gonna read through your reply slowly (a little later) as I have only quickly glanced through and seen that my original reply to you..all of it...is still here.

"My dear brothers and sisters, take note of this:
Everyone should be quick to listen,
slow to speak and slow to become angry,"
- James 1:19

"Do not be rash with your mouth,
And let not your heart utter anything hastily ..."
- Ecclesiastes 5:2a

That right there, is a wise woman and a realigning one, for that matter, too, lol. No wise person permits the heart rule the head or vice versa.
It actually is a matter of getting to strike the right balance between the heart and head.

Eviana:
Will come back..

You'll come back, à la Arnold Schwarzenegger, lol, JC or both, lol?

PS: Eviana, did you get to maybe watch that, less than a minute YouTube clip, about boxer Pacquiao?

Christianity Etc › Re: Boxing Champion Wilder Challenged Jesus Christ And Regrets It. by MuttleyLaff: 6:49pm On Mar 09, 2020*

Acehart:
I didn’t want to respond to your comment because there are mines laid all over it:
it’s the kind of comment that didn’t employ the strength of the cerebral cortex.

Of course, you know the popular saying: "sticks and stones may break my bones but words, will never hurt me" so my dear friend, you can have your kind and comforting words back and shove them up your .... Never mind, have a good evening!

Acehart:
[s]1. A Greco-Roman styled wrestling contest in the olympics lasts for 5 minutes a bout; after each bout, many wrestlers can’t go on another five minutes; some limp out and are carried away by their coaching crew. Aleksandr Karelin was the “god” of Olympic wrestling; all but one of his opponents (professionally trained wrestlers from their childhood) did not last up to two minutes on the mat; many pinning themselves intentionally because of the fear of the inevitable - his reverse lift.

Then you hear of an octogenarian wrestling God for hours and you didn’t stop to ask if what was spoken of was a metaphor.

2. Paul’s Shadow boxing: When Paul quoted the inscription, “To the unknown God”, maybe he could be described as an evangelist turned Philosopher; when God described Himself with female qualities and features, He could be described as bisexual. (I speak with no wisdom).

You seem to forget that we were not born saved. If Paul described himself as Chief among sinners; what was it in his former state did he not still have knowledge of or that he should feign obliviousness to? Wasn’t his theology and letters to people who were once lovers of the things of this world (and still love them) littered with picturesque comparison to Roman sport terminologies:

"Do you not know that in the stadium all the runners run but that only one wins the victory wreath? Run in such a way that you win it! Each fighter lives however completely abstinent; they do it to win a passing, we however to win an imperishable prize. Therefore I do not run like someone who is running without aim, and do not fight with my fists like someone who punches into air; rather I chastise and subject my body, in order that I do not preach to other people and am rejected myself." (1 Cor 9:24-27)

Even your quote - shadow boxing, seems dubious. Contextually and specifically, you were wrong. (I hope I misunderstand you so that you can be correct). Didn’t Paul write this letter to a church who loved the things of the devil and those of this world?

4. The brutality against Christ: Are you suggesting in order to understand the brutality against Christ we must consume the brutality against Wilder? At your conversion, did the Spirit of Christ minister the wrath of men to you for your conversion or did He minister the love of God in Christ Jesus symbolized by the Cross of Calvary for your conversion? If your case is the former, may you peep into Heaven to check whether you name is inscribed in the Book of Life.

5. Wilder’s adoration of the spirit of his ancestors: When you glanced at that Book that saints have an assurance of salvation, were you admonished to pay attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons ? Didn’t Christ silence demons so that we would not be swayed by their declarations? Yet you heed to what (you perceived as demonic utterance) the Wilder man festered and try to sway us to follow your lead.

May the Lord have mercy on us all. [/s]

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Christianity Etc › Re: Boxing Champion Wilder Challenged Jesus Christ And Regrets It. by MuttleyLaff: 6:48pm On Mar 09, 2020*

Eviana:
Sir,
You never cease to amaze me.

Ma'am, I was put on this earth to do either of two things, to amaze and piss people off, OR, to amaze and make people smile, lol. Which one did you get blessed from me with, lol.

Eviana:
You can be so biblically sound one minute, then you do a "180" and fall off...
You suffer from a case of "cherry-picking-when-it-suits-me-or-supports-what-I-believe-it is"...lol.

Nah, you looked down the wrong end of the telescope judging by this your comment, lol. I was just playing devil's advocate with you, picking apart your intensely filled with emotion strong feelings and emotional outbursts post, lol.

When you began reeling out the most descriptive adjectives using the words: vicious, volatile, vile, animalistic, barbaric, ferocious and life-threatening (in several ways) to describe the boxing sport, I muttered to myself, watch, she'll soon run out of superlatives to continue describing this with, lol, then lo and behold, guess what. You actually did stop, lol

Eviana:
Anyhow sir Muttley, I appreciate "your opinions" about "my opinions" because (as you earlier wrote), you are certainly entitled to voice your opinions. As it's just exactly what they are, they are views and/or conclusions formed about things, that are not necessarily based on fact or correct knowledge, lol.

Of course, you know why I dearly love you, beside you having a good head on your shoulders, is your good sense of humour and ability to have a good laugh, lol.

Eviana:
You seriously used Jacob's wrestling with God as a comparison and justification for what Mr. Wilder and Mr. Fury do as a profession?

Whoa, whoa, whoa, madam. Ease up ma'am, first and foremost,
1/ Where did MuttleyLaff use Jacob's wrestling with God as a comparison for what Mr. Wilder and Mr. Fury do as a profession?
2/ Where did MuttleyLaff use Jacob's wrestling with God as a justification for what Mr. Wilder and Mr. Fury do as a profession?
3/ Where did you read and/or find MuttleyLaff condemn or condone Mr. Deontay Wilder and Mr. Tyson Fury choice to take up boxing as a chosen profession that will bring in money

Eviana:
Then you said "shadow-boxing" and Paul in the same sentence?

So? Yeah, did he or not shadow box ni, hmm?

Eviana:
Then you compare the brutal, despicable treatment by satanic Roman soldiers to my Righteous Saviour, who was doing the will of His father--taking death as the penalty of sin for a fallen world-- as justification for boxing? Wow..
Muttley, seriously?

You are being emotional now just as when you penned the original post

Eviana:
Let me take a moment here..
Ok...mercy.
Mr. Muttley, you would have done better to just plainly say, "I love boxing", as Mr.Acehart did.

That's an illusion because I wouldnt particularly say, I love boxing. Sorry to burst your bubble. Now, if you must know, I at times, merely just says things for sake of needing to be real and say things the way I see them, and most of the time, not neccesarily, minding whose ox is gored.

Eviana:
Yep, I know Mr. Wilder is "now" into ancetral worship...which is not of Jesus Christ..which is why I said that he has back-slidden from the faith.
I know my Nigerian people are gonna attack me for speaking against indigenous/traditional/native worship.
I don't get into the "color/race" issue of Jesus.
I don't care what His skin color was.
I care about His "blood"....the one that was shed for me....that color only.

I saw what you wrote and yes, he has a demonic spirit in him.
It is very easy to allow a demonic spirit access in our lives when we make choices that allow him to do so.
Each day is a spiritual warfare battle for the Christian's soul. I am not exempt from that nor have I ever said that.

Romans 3:23 (KJV)
"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"
I am also aware of the caution we should take when it comes to judging.

Matthew 7:1 (KJV)
"Judge not, that ye be not judged."
However, professors of Christ are told to judge righteous judgment.

John 7:24 (KJV)
"Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment."

That means "sin" is "sin" is "sin" is "sin".
There are biblical guidelines that followers of Christ are supposed to adhere to...
Regardless of what I may "feel" or "think", there is a measuring stick of sorts created by God that I am to use when professing Christ.

Because I like something, doesn't lesson what the reality is...no matter how much I may try to justify it. I did not outright call boxing a "sin", but I did point out that the characteristics of that particular sport, do not represent the characteristics of Jesus.

The emboldened "I did not outright call boxing a "sin"" vindicates me, lol. Mission Accomplished. Sweet Success, lol, by the grace and power of God Almighty

MuttleyLaff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDA_eyMMiWQ

Boxer Manny Pacquiao Built 1,000 Homes In His Homeland For The Poor

Growing up in poverty in the Philippines, Pacquiao frequently slept on cardboard boxes and skipped school for work to help his mother meet ends.

When Pacquiao eventually fought his way out of poverty, he decided to give back to people who were still struggling. In 2016, Pacquiao paid out of his pocket to build 1,000 houses for the poor in his home country.

Despite losing his highly anticipated 2015 "Fight of the Century" against Floyd Mayweather Jr., Pacquiao earned more than $100 million for the fight and spent a great deal of his earnings on financing the homes

Eviana:
I am praying for both of them sir Muttley.
Thanks for your always "thought-provoking" contributions.

"With all prayer and petition pray at all times in the Spirit,
and with this in view, be on the alert with all perseverance and petition for all the saints,"
- Ephesians 6:18

Christianity Etc › Re: Stop Attacking Pastors Biko by MuttleyLaff: 5:08am On Mar 09, 2020*

Acehart:
If I am a new convert, how do I know a false pastor?

It is the same way you know a $100 bill, £50 papernote or ₦1000 banknote from false ones

Acehart:
What about when I step into a church for the first time, how do I recognize that the person on the pulpit isn’t a true pastor?

When you step into an orchard, as in meaning, an enclosed land planted with all sorts of trees, how do you recognise the apple tree from the orange tree and/or pear tree? Use the same basic principle to recognise

Acehart:
Thanks. But as a new convert, it could take time before I can do the comparison. For the mean time, how can I guard against them?

Be alert, be on your guard and be sensitive to the Holy Spirit and Holy Spirit's prompt. Know your Bible everyday more. When you keep yourself pure, you're guarding yourself against them

Acehart:
I like your responses but you haven’t answered my specific question. Your answer is perfect for the ideal case but many of us enter into a church without an invitation; what should guide us to know a false pastor upon my visit?

"See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy
and empty deception, according to the tradition of men,
according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ."
- Colossians 2:8

"Beloved, do not believe every spirit,
but test the spirits to see whether they are from God,
for many false prophets have gone out into the world."
- 1 John 4:1

"Stop judging according to outward appearances;
rather judge according to righteous judgment.""
- John 7:24

"For false messiahs and false prophets will rise up
and perform great signs and wonders so as to deceive,
if possible, even God’s chosen ones"
- Matthew 24:24

Aside, the instructive Colossians 2:8, 1 John 4:1, John 7:24 and Matthew 24:24 bible verses, this question, actually has already been addressed above and just under, immediately below next in relation to another similar question

Acehart:
What is the spirit of discernment?

"He gives one person the power to perform miracles, and another the ability to prophesy.
He gives someone else the ability to discern whether a message is from the Spirit of God or from another spirit ...
(i.e. To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits ...)"
- 1 Corinthians 12:10a

The spirit of discernment is one of the spiritual gifts given and manisfested, for the common good of ekklesia, as in meaning, the called out ones, or the church, as it is up-to-date called, lol. 1 Corinthians 12:10a above is easily understood and so I dont think needs explaining

Acehart:
Does a new convert have the full mastery of such a spirit?

First, no, new converts statistically dont neccesarily all have the full mastery of such gift and then, yes, its possible a new convert may right from onset have the full mastery of such gift

Christianity Etc › Re: Boxing Champion Wilder Challenged Jesus Christ And Regrets It. by MuttleyLaff: 3:48am On Mar 09, 2020*

Eviana:
Let me first put out a disclaimer:
I DO NOT WATCH BOXING.
I ABSOLUTELY AND UTTERLY DESPISE THIS SPORT AS I DO FOOTBALL..AND WILL ALWAYS DESPISE IT.

Reason being, that it is a vicious, volatile, vile, animalistic, barbaric, ferocious and life-threatening (in several ways) sport.
Was trying to use the most descriptive adjectives.
These men get their brains knocked around just as they do in football. That is not what the body was designed for. It really is a form of abuse on the body to be constantly pummelled and pounded on to the point of swollen eyes closed shut, bloody faces, backs and ears, ruptured ear drums etc.
God does not condone that sort of "sport".
God has "0" part in that...regardless of what folks may think.

Anyhoo, I do not live under a rock and have heard folks talking about the much-hyped match a week or so ago. So I researched the two guys briefly, and also searched for a clip of the fight and could barely watch 5 seconds.
It was grotesque.
People were speaking about something that the white guy did to the black guy.
I watched it....and was sickened in the depths of my stomach. The image was detestable.
Also, people were speaking about the confession of Christ by the white guy.

Now looking from a purely spiritual perspective,
the white guy supposedly professes Jesus as his Saviour.
Yet he engaged in an extremely inappropriatly stated sexualized ritual before getting ready for a match or matches?
Then, what he specifically did to that black guy (not gonna describe it) that night towards the end of the match (I think caused I only saw a clip) had not even the slightest hint of Christianity. It was abnormal.
Clearly, another entity had taken over him.
That entity was NOT God...no way.
None of that is Christ...nor is it Christianity.
Quite naturally, when two men are practically beating each other to death, then there has to be another spirit taking over.
That is exactly what happened.

I read that the black guy comes from a religious family, however, it clearly looks like he has strayed.
He looked quite odd on that night in his regalia.
That outfit looked very dark...an ungodly spirit was attached to it.
What you guys saw was Hollywood....a script....a movie....actors on a stage....need I say more?
That is what happens when the quest for fame, wealth, and power consume a person to the point that they forget Who and what are truly important in life.
Now, I don't doubt that once upon a time, these guys professed Christ and maybe even lived it.
It's quite possible they have back-slidden.
But now, seing what "both" of them have done, as opposed to what they "profess", well we need to be praying for their full return to the Lord Jesus, because right now, sadly and unfortunately, they are not serving him.
People need to be cautious about what we label as Chritianity or who we follow because he/she professes Jesus.

1 John 4:1 (KJV)
4 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Acehart:
I enjoyed your writeup. I have also heard many Christians boast about the victory of Tyson Fury being a victory for the faith: it sounds like what politicians would say for popularity. It’s a travesty of the gospel to say the least.

I watch boxing (don’t slay me) though but what Fury did in the sixth round isn’t of the spirit of Christ: didn’t the Jerusalem council admonish the Gentiles to abstain from blood? The urge he felt was “cannibal-like”; this couldn’t have been the Lord’s doing?

Didn’t our Lord say we aren’t of the world? Didn’t he say we shouldn’t love the things of this world? Where does this boasting lead sinners to? Does boxing commend its stakeholders to righteousness?

Fury reminds me of Elijah: he would get the victory (because God would not let His name to be ridiculed) but God will rebuke him thereafter: His victory against Wilder would be like a loss when he comes face to face with God.

Don’t worry Ms. God will take care of the situation.

I enjoyed reading both Eviana and Acehart writeups, lol.

Eviana, certainly is entitled to voice her opinions. As it's just exactly what they are, they are views and/or conclusions formed about things, that are not necessarily based on fact or correct knowledge, lol.

I am going to cut to the bone and straightaway without any ceremony or wasting time come straight to the point, by asking you these few simple, easy, direct straightforward questions:
1/ How did Jacob sustain the hip injury he limped and suffered from?
2/ Who was until daybreak wrestling with God?
3/ Why would Apostle Paul say: "I do fight as if I were shadowboxing", hmm?
4/ Was what Jesus endure, suffered and went through at the hands of Pontius Pilate, the Roman soldiers, the arduous journey to Golgotha, the hanging on the cross and the culminating brutal death at same Calvary, any less vicious, volatile, vile, animalistic, barbaric, ferocious and life-threatening than the Wilder vs Fury II fight, hmm?
5/ Did you perchance also read that the black guy (i.e. Deontay Wilder) said he believes in ancestors spirits? He actually said the Bronze Bomber is an ancestry spirit, that, it is this ancestry spirit that possesses him. Deontay, by the way, nicknames himself the "Bronze Bomber"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj7tYm9vHKU
I made mention in my earlier post somewhere above there, that the demon inside Deontay, at the 2:02-2:14 minute mark of this YouTube clip, was with hostility, shouting out from him, Deontay, saying "... there's only one Bronze Bomber, there's only one Bronze Bomber, there's only one Bronze Bomber ..." and that it was so surreal to watch and hear.

Let him/her who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone

Christianity Etc › Re: How Was The Black African Saved Before Christ - Discussion by MuttleyLaff: 1:39am On Mar 09, 2020

frosbel2:
Eons prior to the arrival of the slave traders and colonialists who brought death, destruction and of course the BIBLE, we had our own religion, imperfect as it was; we believed in the one god

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Pull the other leg, its got bells on it

frosbel2:
and though you could argue that there were a number of despicable practices, we should have been able to reform the system and improve our mode of worship without recourse to a total abandonment of our way of life. That’s why the black man lacks originality, he lives a copycat life style whereas other races retain their tradition and culture, though they may borrow a few virtues from others.

ISLAM and Christianity are NOVEL to Sub-Saharan Africa; we have inadvertently exchanged our own culture and religion with foreign ones and the result is there for all to see; confusion, mayhem and spiritual anarchy.

Nigeria is evidence that religion is fake and a big farce.

You know that they say that somethings are better left unsaid. You didn't have to say, what you did. Now why not have a box of tissues while you cry me a crocodile tears river

Christianity Etc › Re: How Was The Black African Saved Before Christ - Discussion by MuttleyLaff: 12:52am On Mar 09, 2020

Originakalokalo:
@ Muttleylaff,

You only believe in Jesus before death...

There is no forgiveness in the grave..for those who are alive and have heard the gospel. ..

It is appointed unto man to die once.... And after that judgement.

I am hearing this from you for the first time... It is a doctrine of the devils I tell you.

Bodydialect57:
Yes, and there's no repentance in the grave as well

Please to see you drop in here and jump on this, lol.

Here's are my reservations
1/ Do you agree with the alarmist Originakalokalo that my comment is a doctrine of the devils, lol?
2/ Please show me where in the Bible, that, in a clear and detailed manner, leaving no room for confusion or doubt, it says there is no repentance after death or in the grave. Hmm?

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Christianity Etc › Re: How Was The Black African Saved Before Christ - Discussion by MuttleyLaff: 12:52am On Mar 09, 2020

frosbel2:
Mr white man's god worshipper, lol.

Mister frosbel2, you miss road, you bin carry yur cloth for repair, you carry am go for shoe-maker, lol. Gorilla, when run from bush, come enter Lagos, and enter bus, hin miss road, oh yes, hin miss road and hin go cause confusion. Mister frosbel2, you miss yur road, so don't come my way I beg una. Don't come my way, lol, with you spinning that your "... white man's god ..." ignorant line. Mister frosbel2, shey white man, oyinbo pepper, dey for Africa ni or the Middle East sef for that matter ni, hmm?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Devil Unmasked.. by MuttleyLaff: 11:31pm On Mar 08, 2020

sonmvayina:
So where do you think the devil will look to grab power?

Duh, I don't know. Is there a prize to be won for having the correct answer, lol? OK, the devil will look to grab power anywhere the devil thinks will find or have no resistance, lol.

Christianity Etc › Re: How Was The Black African Saved Before Christ - Discussion by MuttleyLaff: 11:21pm On Mar 08, 2020*

sonmvayina:
Stop making a fool of yourself...
From the 5th parents back...

Why dont you say just that in front of a mirror, lol, mister ancestors worship

Christianity Etc › Re: How Was The Black African Saved Before Christ - Discussion by MuttleyLaff: 11:18pm On Mar 08, 2020

sonmvayina:
We went to our ancestors for answers..

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Smh. How far back, lol?
Grandpa, great grandpa, great great grandpa or what?

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Devil Unmasked.. by MuttleyLaff: 11:05pm On Mar 08, 2020

sonmvayina:
Grab power from where?.. From God?

"God has spoken plainly, and I have heard it many times: Power, O God, belongs to you;
(i.e. More than once I have heard God say that power belongs to him)"
- Psalm 62:11

"And you shall remember the LORD your God, for it is He who gives you power to get wealth, ..."
- Deuteronomy 8:18a

All power comes and/or is obtained from God. God is always in the mathematical formulae and equation of power

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did God Create Satan? by MuttleyLaff: 10:57pm On Mar 08, 2020*

kingxsamz:
Yes.
We should have all been robots.
God should have made all humans in a way that they won't disobey him.
The idea itself is dumb.
Punishing people for something you gave them the ability to do.
It's like giving a child a knife to play with, and then the baby hurts you with it, only for you to punish the child.
The whole idea of the God thing is dumb no matter how you look at it...

God truly gave them the ability to exercise freewill but not that the freewill be abused, misused or disused. It is not punishment but is causality, lol.

Hmm, let me think of something so trivial. Yeah, male nipples. That would do it. Why dont you start with creating from scratch, a pair of male nipples, to show how as smart as God you are and to show how not dumb you look.

Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Scholars Help Out : Why Did God Put Such Fruit In The Garden by MuttleyLaff: 10:31pm On Mar 08, 2020

Donald95:
When you enter a new Place of work, Instructions and training will be given. Also, you will have a supervisor that will guide you not to make mistake in case you encounter a bug.

Today, Jesus had died, Holy spirit has been given, Great stories about the mightiness of God has been told in the bible and is still being told as testimonies but still, Mighty men of God has fallen to Satan in fact, Even the bible says that the righteousness of men is like filthy rags in his presence. Then imagine Adam and Eve with no supervisor or guide.

Wisdom do come naturally in many. That Adam was intelligent enough to name Animal doesn't mean his intelligence can be used to outsmart the devil.

Please dont try be saying its a wrong or bad decision on God's part. No, oh, c'mon, I cant believe you think you're smarter than God. Cant believe I am about to read that you seem to think God made an error of judgement leaving poor and helpless A&E alone and vulnerable in the garden of Eden at the mercy of big bad wolf with big teeth it has, all the better to eat A&E with, mister Devil Satan.

Do you read A&E ever complained they never had all that there you mentioned made available to them, Nah, lol, of course not, they didnt. They knew they had it so good, but they fairked it up. They were putting the blame on each other, nothing about, but why God, why did you put the tree there nah, lol.

PS: Your signature text is hilarious, lol. Here's my take on it. Virgins, your body, kpekus or blokos, lol, are not yours, so save and take good care of that body, kpekus or blokos for your partner, then in a committed manner, enjoy having blissful sex together

Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Scholars Help Out : Why Did God Put Such Fruit In The Garden by MuttleyLaff: 10:15pm On Mar 08, 2020

kingxsamz:
But how can you test when you already know the end result?
What's the need?

And if you already know the end result, why not make changes?

You have to go through the process to in order to pass on changes

glowingflame7:
It's like steel is tested or clay or gold is tested/toughened in the fire. The known end result cones out as a result of the test.

Besides that, lessons, lol, are even learned during and/or after the test

Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Scholars Help Out : Why Did God Put Such Fruit In The Garden by MuttleyLaff: 9:57pm On Mar 08, 2020*

Donald95:
Am not Atheist, but he made a good point.

Whether you're an atheist or not doesnt mean you cant air an opinion, regardless of if its a good point or not a good point. You dont have to drop an "I am not Atheist" disclaimer, lol

Donald95:
Remember, their is a law in every country that prevents a minor (Inexperienced and ignorant) to engage in sex with an adult (experienced)
Despite the fact the minor has the right to choose his or her decisions.

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If you're experienced enough to give animals name, then you're experienced enough to know the difference between to steal and/or not to steal, lol. Pftt. I never once read anywhere in the Bible, A&E ever querying God that why did He in the first place put the TKG&E in the middle of the Garden of Eden.

MuttleyLaff:
Excellent truth

Are you a learner ni?. The tree goes through judgement upon examination of its fruits

Dont worry, he'll soon copy.

I spoke too soon

Also to answer your question Donald95, do you know Adam and Eve were not created like babies or 3 year olds. Adam was a grown man. He and Eve were not made children nor childish.

Adam and Eve did not gradually change physically or progress to maturity as we have children would do. Adam and Eve were created fully grown, made and developed to be responsible for their actions. Their minds were endowed with accelerated knowledge and so capable to be completely responsible for what they did or not do.

So Donald95, if evidently, Adam was subjected to an accelerated learning process or program, what is stopping God in conducting an accelerated seating or fast track judgement hearing, hmm?

Donald95:
You don't expect Adam and Eve to be able to resist Satan that has been existing for so long, who contributed opinion when man was about to be made and also who knows every material used in making man

Of course A&E had the capability of resisting Satan, but just was that they underachieved and squandered the potential inside or within, that God gave them.

Christianity Etc › Re: Cain's Wife - Where Did He Get Her? by MuttleyLaff: 9:00pm On Mar 08, 2020*

Empiree:
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Interestingly, King James Bible that many CHRISTIANs hold the most standard of all Bible versions was condenmed by Revised Standard Version. This extract is from the preface of RSV

h ttp:// www.bible-researcher.com/rsvpreface.html

MuttleyLaff:
Nwanne you brought me over here by your spamming chronic appeal plastered all over the Religion forum, urging all and sundry, to come visit this thread.

Hmm, defective and elementary you typed? Those that leave in glass houses, shouldnt be throwing stones. ~~Empiree~~, Nwanne, Christianity, never started in any upper room on any day of Pentencost. Christianity, as in, Constantine Christianity, in cahoot with the "church" started in Rome.

"I was circumcised when I was eight days old.
I am a pure-blooded citizen of Israel and a member of the tribe of Benjamin
—a real Hebrew if there ever was one! I was a member of the Pharisees, who demand the strictest obedience to the Jewish law."
- Philippians 3:5

"Then Saul, who was also called Paul, filled with the Holy Spirit, looked straight at Elymas and said,"
- Acts 13:9

Also Paul, was not as you put it, formerly Saul, this is because Saul and Paul were both already existing names he was known by. As a matter of fact, Saul was his Hebrew name, whilst Paul was his Roman name.

Paul had dual citizenship, he was both Roman and Jewish. He after the Acts 13:9 experience, stuck to using his Roman Paul name, for obvious reasons of the the work ahead and terrain he will be working

I am currently at page 6 since steadily reading from the beginning, but needed to interrupt my reading, in order to quickly interject immediately, as like above and at this point and right here, to say that, legendary'mega is right, in what and where, he typed that the catholic started Christianity, this so, because the Roman Catholic Church was formed, after shady deal(s) and/or sell-out to the State by the "Church", as it was the Roman Emperors Constantine's and Licinius' Edict of Milan in AD 313 which established a policy of religious freedom for all, as in, this was a proclamation that permanently legalised Christianity in the Roman Empire, and so paved the way for Christianity to be the official religion of the entire Roman Empire too.

The introduction of pagan religions and assimilation of paganism influences was a tragic compromise by the early believers, as this resulted in the Romanization and paganization of the early believers' faith and the "Christianization" of pagan beliefs as we not just know but celebrate then and celebrate even up until now.

Anyway, the Roman Empire, adopted the Roman Catholic Church (i.e. RCC) as "official" church during Roman Emperor Constantine's reign, and it's worth noting, that, the supremacy of the Roman bishop (i.e. the papacy or pope) was set up, put into place, aided and abetted through the support of the Roman Emperors (i.e. notably Constantine and his successors)

Recall that I earlier mentioned the Edict of Milan in AD 313, which was a letter signed by the Roman Emperors Constantine and Licinius, that proclaimed religious toleration in the Roman Empire, well, in AD 325, Constantine called the First Council of Nicaea in AD 325, in an attempt to unify Christianity when doctrinal disputes arose, like for example Arianism, all about doctrines named after Arius, a teacher in the early 4th century A.D and so Constantine presided over this first ecumenical church council

So quick recap, by the 1st century AD, ekklēsia birthed on the teachings of Jesus Christ and later founded on the day of Pentecost in the upper room with a bunch of 120 believers.

By the 2nd century AD - believers already denouncing teachings, seen as heresies, such as Gnosticism, Montanism etcetera.

In the 4th century AD - ekklēsia was transformed, emerged Christians, an evolved "church", finally gets legalized and then promoted by Emperors Constantine and Theodosius I, as the state church, of the Roman Empire and so yes also that, legendarymega is right, that the Catholics, are the original owner of your bible, because truly, the RCC are the original owner of your bible version(s), because incidentally and truly, those versions were made off the back of "The Vulgate", which was an accepted Latin translation of the original Old and New Testament texts.

Some even called, "The Vulgate", the "The Vulgar" bible. Anyway, Jerome, of RCC, was the person, who translated the original Old and New Testament texts and compiled them into a single volume of the 66 books we have and/or enjoy today

Are you kidding me with this?!. Fyi, in past submissions, I have posted about translators, the politics, their ulterior motives and hidden agenda behind individual bible translations. One of your major problems, is you just keep on ignoring the fact that the Quran piggybacks on the Bible sha, hmm, lol

Even RSV, this your poster boy translation Bible too, just like the KJV is not 100% free of translation errors, whatnots and etcetera, lol. Let him with no sin, cast the first stone.

Talo ni trailer yi, to nyi lọ. You are slow, poor, lazy, dull and lag behind in receiving knowledge. Smh. You are not the sharpest tool in the box. "O kan nrokoroko lasanlasan danu ati sọnu de idi ọsa, o yẹ ki wọn ti gba ọkọ ati ada lọwọn ẹ lati ana ni, mtcheew", loosely translated means, "you're mowing the garden lawn and cutting the field grass right on to the lagoon, you should have been relieved of the mower, cutlass and hoe since God knows when, mtcheew"

Let me tell you something, let me tell you whats going on in here. "Oju ogun le. Ẹni ba bo ọgẹdẹ, o di dandan, ko jẹ ni, lol." You pointed and tried poke me in the eye. The warfront is real. When you peel off the banana skin, it's a must you be ready to eat it, lol.

All you are good at, is making noise. Just from the quote of mine up above there, you should have realised that all the red herrings you put up against me, wouldnt work and cant work on me. Kolewerk. I am light years ahead of you brother.

Christianity Etc › Re: Cain's Wife - Where Did He Get Her? by MuttleyLaff: 9:00pm On Mar 08, 2020*

Empiree:
EMPTY... You better repent from this evil Creed of yours. It is clear that your belief is crooked.
Quran says
O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. Christ Jesus was only a messenger of God, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; Far is it removed from His Transcendent Majesty, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God.
Qur'an 4 verse 171

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Look at you trying to teach big momma how to suck egg, lol.

You know, I give it to the Quran sometimes because it does advises you my Muslim brothers and sister a little bit of potent home truths. You see brother, lol, I am always ahead of you. Without trying to sound conceited, please trust me brother, in terms of spiritual development or bible knowledge success, I am light years ahead of you.

Empiree:
If your faith is straightforward you would not be talking incarnation. What time heck in the world you reduced God to man incarnation?. O my Lord, Paul had done lots of damages to your brains.

My beloved dear Muslim brother friend Empiree, fyi, God is not just Omniscient, as in meaning, is All-knowing. Knowing everything and knows everything. God is not just Omnipotent, as in meaning, there is nothing beyond God's power/ability/capability, nothing is beyond God's technical know how to pull to successfully pull off or bring anything off, lol. God is not just Omnipresent, as in meaning, capable of being physically or not, present everywhere at the same time, lol, but God, most importantly is a purposeful God. He is is not a purposeless Being. If, according to the rules and/or principles, Him Himself from the beginning laid down, it requires God to incarnate, then incarnate gladly God will do and did do, lol.

MuttleyLaff:
This is the beauty of breaking bread and sharing it in opened topics like as this one. Interlocutors bring along food, you eat with them on the table, chew the food but making sure not to swallow the bones but to spit them out, lol

Empiree, my position, is God is not a "not-known-number" of person(s). God, as a matter of fact then, is, x-person and so God, in effect is, ∞-persons, as in, meaning, God, rather, is infinite or infinity and not trinity, lol.

God, is a force, an influence beyond scientific understanding lol, someone without any bound, without limit, without an end. God is the first and the last, God oxymoronically has no beginning and no end. God is a supernatural being, someone bigger and larger than any specified number, even three or trinity. This means, dont put God in a box. It explains why God in His infinite wisdom didnt allow the the word trinity to be printed black and white kokoro out in the Bible, lol

Now going to what you referenced and about the point made by (moniker edited out) when he laid bare Matthew 24:36. Well, you've likely, often heard it said, if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself. Something to be done right is exactly what it's all about and so what God did. This is a matter of the classsic diy aka Do-It-Yourself.

God, can send Himself on an errand, and did send Himself to earth, in the form of Jesus Christ because God simultaneously can be in more than one place at a time (i.e. God can be in Heaven and on earth, at the same time) Note that, Jesus didnt correct people that addressed Him as God, for example, where and when said: "My Lord, My God" to Him

Christ cannot share the same body with God the father, because God is formless. God has no clear definite shape or size. Jesus Christ is the product of God projecting Himself as a human being in the person of Jesus Christ on earth. Jesus Christ is the visible image of the invisible God. Why does Jesus Christ need to be a human being on earth?. Fundamentally, it is because one needs a human body to lawfully and have a permitted way to legally operate on earth. God is not going to be a law breaker and be breaking Genesis 1:26-28

Now, though Jesus is God, He did not think of equality with God, as something to cling to. Instead, He gave up his divine privileges. He took the humble position of a servant and was born as a human being, and so God appeared on earth, in human form, as in, the person of Jesus Christ, God's Son, which means, it is a guarantee and not rocket science, that fathers will always know things that sons will have no idea or knowledge of. This isnt news anymore

I have already predicted an impetuous response like this from you, so just save it. OK? I have Empiree, as you can see from the above quotation, taken from a post on another thread, that I have read it all before, so dont bother trying it here because all this your baseless and/or false trinitarian accusation will not wash. You frankly and simply are again, no prize for guessing, lol, barking up the wrong tree, lol

Now, it seems you want to hear word ni, abi, hmm? Well no problem, your wish is my command, as you've come to the right person, who will give that earful of word, you so seriously want to hear. OK? Now, Empiree, let's start with, what is frightening you from answering those four simple, easy, direct and straightforward questions, erhn? Are you scared wind will blow wide open your perky soft yansh ni, if you should, lol. Ah peele, ndo, but just know that the truth you hide from the truth you run away from, sooner or later will find its way to back to discomfortably haunt you, lol. To get a sense of this, why not try holding $hit in, say for 3 days long and with a straight face of no going to the toilet, to know what I am talking of here, lol.

Empiree:
Besides, their are CHRISTIANs who don't believe in jargons you have been posting. You could see below that Unitarian Christianity don't believe in your evil Creed yet you all claimed to read the same Book.
They see you as keferi

There you go again, barking up and at the wrong tree. Whats my own with Unitarian Christian, huh? It is a free freedom world, lol. They are permitted to believe whatever they believe, just as much as you too, have the right to be believe in Islam

Its disheartening that upon all the schooling you've freely gotten from me, you still havent yet picked on that there is no denomination in the kingdom of Heaven. You still have no idea that God is denomination agnostic, lol

Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Scholars Help Out : Why Did God Put Such Fruit In The Garden by MuttleyLaff: 6:51pm On Mar 08, 2020*

kingxsamz:
But your colleague @ Jozzy4 said God didn't know because He choose not to know, and here you are claiming He knew.

"I declare the end from the beginning, and ancient times from what is still to come. I say, ‘My purpose will stand, and all My good pleasure I will accomplish.’"
- Isaiah 46:10

God is Omniscient, as in meaning, is All-knowing. Knowing everything and knows everything. God also is not a purposeless Being. It will be inresponsible of God allow or create anything without having no aim or plan, lol. It will be a wanton act of mindless vandalism to create and make things with no discernible point or purpose. Who in their right sense, does that, hmm? Nobody, nobody in their right sense does, and that includes God even, lol.

Regardless of God knowing anyone is going to rebel and/or be a bitch or jerk, God still respects your right to existence, your right to partake life, experience life, enjoy life to the fullest etcetera, so God allows yours and everybody's creation, regardless of knowing in advance everything about everyone, lol.

kingxsamz:
Is it just me, or are the both of you utterly confused and unsure of what you believe in?
Smh

MuttleyLaff:
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kingxsamz, we obviously don't see the scriptures with the same understanding in very major ways because most others and I understand scripture to the level of our submission to the Spirit of Truth. We understand scripture to how much we fill out to snuggly fit into the gift of the given out Holy Spirit. kingxsamz, we understand scripture according to the altitude of our individual and/or respective vantage points and/or the level/angle/direction/line of our perspective. Those two pictures I've pasted above, are worth more than twenty thousand words, lol.

Neither is utterly confused or unsure of what we believe in. Its the altitude, positioning, line of sight or angle of direction thats different, lol.

kingxsamz:
Besides, if God knew, then God is at fault for not preventing it.

C'mon, why not just at least be fair to God nah, hmm? Did God warn or not warn Adam against eating off the TKG&E, hmm?

kingxsamz:
He knew, and still went ahead to test them, what for?
Smh...

The test was there and done to validate A&E

Christianity Etc › Re: Cain's Wife - Where Did He Get Her? by MuttleyLaff: 6:09pm On Mar 08, 2020*

Empiree:
So according
Isaiah 9:6 Jesus is God. Jesus is God right?. Oya, lets see bible dilemma again.
Jesus called servant of God
“For you first, God raised up His Servant and sent Him to bless you by turning every one of you from your wicked ways.” Acts 3:26

"Truly, truly, I say to you, a servant is not greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him." John 13:16

Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. John 17:3

Jesus A Prophet

The crowds answered, "This is Jesus, the prophet from Nazareth in Galilee." Matthew 21:11

The woman said to Him, "Sir, I perceive that You are a prophet. John 4:19

When they sought to seize Him, they feared the people, because they considered Him to be a prophet. Matthew 21:46

Therefore when the people saw the sign which He had performed, they said, "This is truly the Prophet who is to come into the world." John 6:14

Some of the people therefore, when they heard these words, were saying, "This certainly is the Prophet."
John 7:40

So they said to the blind man again, "What do you say about Him, since He opened your eyes?" And he said, "He is a prophet." John 9:17

So how is a prophet Almighty God. Your bible is full of confusions. It is the reason you are confused. Peace out

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So what, if Jesus is called servant of God. Pftt. Smh. God, is a servant in a servant of God, an angel in an angel, a stone in a stone, a straw in a straw, an etcetera in an etcetera

My beloved dear Muslim brother friend Empiree, I'll be honest, sincere and truthful to you, even if others wont, please take it from me, you're not cut out for any and all of this. You seriously need to, pack up all in, jack everything away and call it a day. You will never succeed in any of this. It is not a curse, but its about the truth that you are venturing into little-known waters. You are wading towards water too deep for you to stand in you and you are already out of your depth currently even as it is. All this chain yanking and pulling you're doing, is beyond your capabilities.

Now, I am going to cut to the bone and straightaway without any ceremony or wasting time come straight to the point, by asking you these few simple, easy, direct straightforward questions:
1/ What, in two to three sentences, is the meaning to your understanding, of the word incarnation, lol?
2/ Do you think and believe, that it is not within God's power to concurrently exist in heaven and for say, 33¹₂ years, at the same time, also exist on earth, lol?
3/ Do you think and believe, it is beyond God's power/ability/capability, that it is beyond God's technical know how to pull something like that successfully off or through, lol, hmm?
4/ Do you believe nothing is beyond God and that's because, it is the essence of the meaning of His, "I AM, that, I AM", name, hmm, lol?

Politics › Re: Rotimi Daniel & Nefisa Wedding: Amosun Laughing With Gbenga Daniel, Dapo Abiodun by MuttleyLaff: 5:39pm On Mar 08, 2020

Addme:
This got me cracking I must say.

Excuse my ignorance please, but how long is a few more months paapa? Anything on the ground commissioned yet and/or any ribbon cutting done yet in Oyo State hmm?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Bible Scholars Help Out : Why Did God Put Such Fruit In The Garden by MuttleyLaff: 5:30pm On Mar 08, 2020*

Ladylite:
God put the tree in the garden because it was a tree that they were supposed to eat. But not at that time.

Temptation is simply what we naturally are meant to have or do or become prematurely given to us by the wrong means.

So the devil tempted them. If the devil didn't do that, they would still eat it later at God's instruction.

Premature satisfaction is the basis of the Satan's temptation

"From the lips of babes and infants you have established strength, because of your adversaries,
that you might silence the enemy and the avenger."
- Psalm 8:2

Wow, coming from such a young beauty with brains. I just had to do the needful and stamp likes on the comments there straightaway

kingxsamz:
Quick question.
Did God know that Adam and Eve would fall for the temptation?

It's a yes or no answer.

Capital and resounding YES.

Art, Freedom and Creativity, lol, Man is Art and without freedom of choice, there is no true impetus ... to encourage creativity.

Donald95:
Adam was like God in physical structure and eternal life not in Wisdom. Ancient Serpent Satan is very deceitful and that's why Jesus sent down His holy spirit to help man out when He is gone. Imagine Adam and Eve with no such Spirit and Guardian angel?

Nothing happened when Eve ate the apple because maybe she was not there when the instruction was given.

Dont get it twisted now, because freedom is the right to be wrong and not the right to do wrong. Adam was and got it wrong thinking nothing has happened to Eve after eating of the fruit from TKG&E. He didnt know, the color of the bird, whether its white or black coming out from the pocket, talkless know a bird in the first place, was coming out, lol

Politics › Re: Rotimi Daniel & Nefisa Wedding: Amosun Laughing With Gbenga Daniel, Dapo Abiodun by MuttleyLaff: 4:40pm On Mar 08, 2020

Addme:
But I think they said GSM is doing well in governance.?

CrimeKsmart:
Seyi the best governor in Nigeria is yet to embark on a single project talk less of commissioning.

Indeed empty barrel makes the loudest noise.

NGpatriot:
They want us to believe that the social media governor is the best governor in Nigeria even though he's yet to commission even 1 single gutter or tin roof, but I have to give it to him, he's commissioned a lot of newspaper and social media projects.

MuttleyLaff:
Ah, that one, I am just watching him from afar with a corner of my eye. Put it this way, let's just wait a few months more and see. I am just wondering had it being he had Lagos state instead of Oyo state, would he be faring better. He does say the state got weighed heavily down with inherited huge debt, didnt he kept saying that, huh?

NGpatriot:
Makinde bit more than he can chew and instead of buckling down to highlight and prosecute serious issues that he laments and cry over everyday, he keeps seeking solace, acceptance and recognition from his social media news fans and consumers.

The man did not prepare himself for governing, no road map, no serious vision or sense of direction, just vague proclamations, many of which he wakes up the next day and reverse.

Of course its all audio, and you can see NGpatriot up there, calling him the social media governor best governor in Nigeria, lol and that he didnt come prepared. That is something, you Addme, said to haffaze777 about Dapo Abiodun's unpreparedness too but he choose to call him daru Dapo, lol

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Politics › Re: Rotimi Daniel & Nefisa Wedding: Amosun Laughing With Gbenga Daniel, Dapo Abiodun by MuttleyLaff: 2:59pm On Mar 08, 2020

haffaze777:
Oshoba,daniel or Amosun should please come back to govern Ogun state because we never had it this bad with this clueless daru dapo

Addme:
You are damn on point. The guy cluelessness is incomparable .
Everything just seems to be on standstill since Amosun left.
He really needs help,more like he didn't really prepare for this.

Funnily enough, same thing Oyo State are complaining of, lol

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Politics › Re: Rotimi Daniel & Nefisa Wedding: Amosun Laughing With Gbenga Daniel, Dapo Abiodun by MuttleyLaff: 2:58pm On Mar 08, 2020

Maxymilliano:
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They've always been buddies, irrespective of political affiliations.

This was in 2002 when Gbenga Daniel was campaigning, Amosun was holding the megaphone while Dapo watched at the background

SKhanmi:
3 close friends became governor of the same state successively and some people still think politics is not a game done to mostly entertain and distract the people. Same as saraki and his sister. The common goal is our yams, how they transport it and through who doesn't matter. They are all United in the background

MuttleyLaff:
www.nairaland.com/attachments/10458149_img20191024wa0016_jpeg218c4fd831b0d05f25716b5c28fc1237
The Wheel of Fortune and how time flies:
Who was and/or is governor in above picture?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Cain's Wife - Where Did He Get Her? by MuttleyLaff: 1:56pm On Mar 08, 2020*

Empiree:
Alhamdulillah...

May Abba have mercy on your impoverished and darkened soul

Empiree:
I have given you another opportunity to provide evidences I asked for but you failed again. For the purpose of our reading audience, let me point the two most crucial points you failed.

I have given you the opportunities and right to make a right arse of yourself, lol and I am glad your good honorable self, havent failed me in delivering and doing just right that, lol.

The readership can see that you seem to have some semblances of good intentions, that you seem well-meaning but the thing is you're misguided, you're misinformed and full of ill-informed opinions.

Empiree, my dear Muslim brother friend, you know very very less than you should, about all that's so far being tabled here by you to discuss on and this is apparent for all to see because you keep ignorantly and blindly arguing with me. You dont understand any of my hints, answers and responses. You are dazzled by my headlights, lol. The brightness of my headlights are too strong for your weak eyes, it blinds you, lol. All you are intent and bent on doing, is try to drag me down for whatever reason you have, into the slimy pit, the mud and mire, that you are in. Never wrestle a wild boar. You both get dirty, and the wild boar likes it.

Empiree:
I asked for where Jesus said he is the Lord and Savior and you provided "For the Son of man, is Lord, even of the sabbath day"
- Matthew 12:8 and “But what about you?” Jesus asked. “Who do you say I AM?” Peter answered, “You are the Christ.”"- Mark 8:29

Matthew 12:8, how many Lord do we have in the Bible?

In the Book of Isaiah 45:5, Allah (God) said I am the LORD, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God....

Isaiah 43:11, God said I, even I, am the LORD, and apart from me there is no savior.

So you can see you could not establish proof that Jesus is Savior according to Mark 8:29 that you posted. And Matthew 12:8 shows that you believe there are two Lods (God and Jesus), So you see how messed up you are now?

"For a child will be born for us, a son will be given to us, and the government will be on his shoulders. He will be named Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.
(i.e. For a child has been born to us, a son has been given to us. He shoulders responsibility and is called: Extraordinary Strategist, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace)"
- Isaiah 9:6

""Look! The virgin will conceive and bear a son, and they will call him Emmanuel," which means "God with us.""
- Matthew 1:23

If you still have no idea, it will mean and unfair of me, to try get you to answer the next $64,000 question of, what is the implication behind the meaning of the two word, Jesus Christ, lol

Empiree:
Second point I asked who do you follow, Jesus or Paul?. You said

You wanna tell us that by imitating Paul you actually follow Jesus, correct?.

Empiree, why if just for once and or pretend that your life depends on it, sincerely and honestly respond to the following
1/ Did Apostle Paul or not, say he is a follower of Jesus?
2/ Did Apostle Paul or not, say, he copies the behaviour or actions of Jesus?
3/ If Apostle Paul is already travelling from Lagos to Kafanchan, following and taking cue from Jesus, what's wrong in following Apostle Paul if embarking on same jouney, when he in turn, is following in Jesus' steps ahead of us both, hmm?

Empiree:
But same Paul said he abandoned Jesus teachings and brought his own he taught you. Paul said in Hebrews 6:1

Therefore let us leave the elementary doctrine of Christ and go on to maturity,

So, how you do "imitate" Jesus by following Paul who already abandoned Jesus' teachings for his own selfish interest?. Bro, you have failed.

Bro, you have failed. My guy, its you who's failed. Read further on below to see how you failed to correctly understand Hebrews 6:1. Smh.

Empiree:
This is probably my last post.

"When the Iroko tree is being cut down, the monkeys (on it) begin to migrate" lol, that a very home truth proverbial coming from my Ndigbo brothers' side.

Empiree, you're someone prepped up to be barbecued, but then on your own accord, went on to rub yourself down with kerosene and even had yourself, on top, soaked up in gasoline. All I have to do, is strike a match and its boom, boom, match in the gas, lol, and its your last post, you're history because of the boom shakalaka! lol.

If a dog strays, into the lion’s lair, the dog must bathe in blood ni, lol. The fear of Amọtẹkun, lol, is the beginning of wisdom, so I wont be surpised if this probably turns out to be your last post. It'll be good riddance to bad rubbish anyway and I'll be delighted you've had enough because all you ever did, apart from displaying your crass ignorance here, was just sheer prevaricating. You made the devil jealous of your skill at evasion and being as slippery like an eel. You dont respond to itemised questions asked you. You avoid replying to itemised and numbered up questions put to you. Smh. All you've so far done is vacillating and constantly over and over again talk out of turn.

Empiree:
You dont make sense. I said it before and will say it again that Christianity is paganism brought by Paul from Rome. You can see clearly from Hebrew 6:1 that christianity (Paul religion) has nothing to do with Jesus (Islamic religion)

"So I had to treat you like babies and feed you milk. You could not take solid food, and you still cannot
(i.e. I had to feed you with milk, not with solid food, because you weren’t ready for anything stronger. And you still aren’t ready,)"
- 1 Corinthians 3:2

"By now you should be teachers. Instead, you still need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God's word. You need milk, not solid food."
- Hebrews 5:12

Empiree, my beloved dear Muslim brother, friend and neighbour, with all due respect, it's being you, from the word, go, from the very beginning, who hasnt been making any sense. You keep missing something very significant there with Hebrew 6:1. You never have the intelligence to pick up that Apostle Paul is not pushing anyone to abandon Jesus' teachings, but rather Apostle Paul is saying something to the effect of: "when we were a child, we spoke as a child, we understood as a child, we thought as a child: but when we become a man, when we come of age, when we reach full successful development, when we go on to maturity, then it is of vital importance that we put away childish things and have no more use for childish ways." Now, what's my own, if it continually shows, you prefer getting your kicks and exercise by jumping to wrong conclusions instead of properly studying the Bible and from getting the facts right arrive at right conclusions. Smh.

Please, go through the pages of the Bible, back to back, and come tell us, if you do find the word Christianity in it mentioned and where you've found, the word Christianity is associated with Apostle Paul in it. You must just finished sniffing some hard substance, for you to start tagging Jesus, as Islamic religion

You are 1000% right my dear Muslim brother friend Empiree, that Christianity is paganism. It to tell the truth, was institutionalised by Constantine, and so is a Roman invention. It never and was not brought by Paul from Rome. As a matter of fact, the reverse is the case, because Apostle Paul actually went to Rome with the Gospel, whilst awaiting a trial before the Emperor, Nero. The truth of the matter, is that Jesus in a dream had told Paul, he Paul, will soon go to Rome to preach the Good News and testify of Him, just as he Paul, had done in Jerusalem (i.e. Acts 23:11)

"²⁴At this stage of Paul’s defense, Festus exclaimed in a loud voice, “You are insane, Paul! Your great learning is driving you to madness!”
²⁵But Paul answered, “I am not insane, most excellent Festus; I am speaking words of truth and sobriety.
²⁶For the king knows about these matters, and I can speak freely to him. I am confident that none of this has escaped his notice, because it was not done in a corner.
²⁷King Agrippa, do you believe the prophets? I know you do.”
²⁸Then Agrippa said to Paul, “Can you persuade me in such a short time to become a Christian?”
²⁹“Short time or long,” Paul replied, “I wish to God that not only you but all who hear me this day may become what I am, except for these chains.”
³⁰Then the king and the governor rose, along with Bernice and those seated with them.
³¹On their way out, they said to one another, “This man has done nothing worthy of death or imprisonment.”
³²And Agrippa said to Festus, “This man could have been released if he had not appealed to Caesar.”"
- Acts 26:24-32

Christianity, is not a Paul religion nor has it anything to do, with the reinvented Jesus, you Muslim brothers and sisters have misintrepreted and reinterpreted in the Islamic religion, lol. The litmus test for whether Apostle Paul has anything to do with Christianity or being a Christian, is to go check out the above Acts 26:24-32 audience and opportunity he had with King Agrippa (i.e. a Jew) when on trial before Festus (i.e. a Roman) at Caesarea.

"²⁸ Agrippa sì wí fún Paulu pé, “Ǹjẹ́ ìwọ lérò pé ìwọ le fi àkókò díẹ̀ yìí sọ mí di Kristiani?”
²⁹ Paulu sì dáhùn wí pé, “Ní àkókò kúkúrú tàbí gígùn, mo gbàdúrà sí Ọlọ́run pé kí ó má ṣe ìwọ nìkan, ṣùgbọ́n kí gbogbo àwọn tí ó gbọ́ ọ̀rọ̀ mi lónìí pẹ̀lú lè di irú ènìyàn tí èmi jẹ́ láìsí ẹ̀wọ̀n wọ̀nyí.”"
- Ìṣe àwọn Aposteli 26 Bíbélì Mímọ́ Yorùbá: 28-29

Notice how Apostle Paul sidestepped the Acts 26:28 question and watch his full control of his mind and thoughts Acts 26:29 reply-answer, done in a few well-chosen words, that in a deliberate and intentional way, avoided the use of the word, Christian, lol.

Christianity Etc › Re: Boxing Champion Wilder Challenged Jesus Christ And Regrets It. by MuttleyLaff: 9:31pm On Mar 07, 2020

sniperr007:
He said it doesn't mean he does it.
Fury talks a lot.
Its his brand and style.

Buliwyf:
Yeah so he can say anything and do anything. But as long as he keeps mentioning Jesus you guys are fine with it. No wonder politicians rob you blind and still give testimonies of God's faithfulness in your churches.

He told you he masturbates to condition himself for the fight. Now you are claiming he doesnt actually do so because it wouldnt help your narrative. Modern Christianity is a religion of clowns and jesters. lol

By the way, if you must know that video was before the first fight that ended in a draw. lmao

Nobody beats up the todger 7 times a day, every day. You wan kill am ni, lol.

Tyson Fury, entertainment wise, has a tongue in cheek, great sense of humour. I bet Deontay after getting whupped, has since then been strangling and choking the chicken, 14 times a day, lol.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Cain's Wife - Where Did He Get Her? by MuttleyLaff: 9:07pm On Mar 07, 2020

Empiree:
Sick of you really. At what point did I say the word christian or christianity originated from God or Jesus?. You begin to sound like wounded robot.

Let me straight up a bit with you on this hmm. Remember you have a problem with the word christian or christianity, yeah? Well guess what, both words didnt originate from God, did not originate from Jesus nor originated from any of the Apostles. Interestingly the word, christianity, isnt even in the Bible, bwahahaha ha, but you came on the thread gung ho, with gun blazing, shooting from the hip and kept jiving nonsense upandan the place. I've tried telling you there are distinctions in faith in Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ and christanity, the organised religion, lol, but you arent any the wiser, lol

Empiree:
This is probably 3rd time you said this too. I keep telling you this is the very reason christianity is NOT from God or Jesus.

Dont worry, no one is going to tell you that you barking up the wrong tree and you've been busy trying to preach to the choir, lol

Empiree:
You already proved me right few times. Read yourself very well before you post.
if there is no command for sabbath, did he command you to call him Lord and Savior of the World?.

Smh, this guy is thicker than a two by two plank wood. You are just too slow on the uptake for my liking. I wonder how your missus manages live with you with how it takes you a long time to understand or realise things, lol.

Empiree:
You keep digging holes for yourself.

Unlike you, I am capable of deliberately digging holes for myself, and that's because I can without a sweat climb out them from, but you, nah, you 11 times out of 10, not only get lost in the rabbit hole(s) you burrow and dive into, but you are incapable of climbing out of it/them, lol.

Empiree:
Where in the Bible Jesus said he's the "Lord and Savior"?

"For the Son of man, is Lord, even of the sabbath day"
- Matthew 12:8

“But what about you?” Jesus asked. “Who do you say I AM?”
Peter answered, “You are the Christ.”"
- Mark 8:29

Now Empiree, my beloved, the $64,000 question you ought to be asking is: What is Jesus anointed for, to do, lol. i dont know why I even bother, wasting my time by offering precious Matthew 12:8, Mark 8:29 and other verses I could that is helpful and/or valuable, but to someone like my dear beloved Muslim brother friend Empiree, who does not appreciate or understand them, lol. Read Matthew 12:8 and Mark 8:29 and then after weep or cry from seeing that Jesus is Lord and Saviour, lol

Empiree:
I said before and will say it again. Paul changed the teachings of Jesus. Look @bolded, who wrote the book of Romans?. It was Paul and Paul never met or seen Jesus.

Meeting Jesus physically is never a prerequisite for believing, for having faith and/or following the commandments of Jesus Christ

Empiree:
He made his own laws. It is clear from the verse I quoted earlier in Hebrews 6:1 that you follow teachings of Paul not Jesus. Dont you get it?. It was Paul who taught the teaching of "blood of Jesus" for salvation of christians.

MuttleyLaff:
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Of course, you can continue arguing blindly as long as you want and/or have your fill, lol.

Look at my dear Muslim brother friend Empiree, living in a glass house but throwing stone, lol. Why dont you tell, why saying Koran, Qur'an or Quran, Moslem or Muslim and Muhammad or Mohammed hmm?

"She will give birth to a son, and you will name Him Jesus [He Saves], because He will save His people from their sins.
(i.e. “And she shall bring forth a Son, and she shall call His name Yeshua, for He shall save His people from their sins. )"
- Matthew 1:21

"The Savior—yes, the Messiah, the Lord—has been born today in Bethlehem, the city of David!"
- Luke 2:11

"John saw Jesus coming toward him the next day and said,
"Look! This is the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world."
- John 1:29

You ignorantly say, it was Paul who taught the teaching of "blood of Jesus" for salvation of christians, but have a very good long, careful and thoughtful look at that John 1:29 verse above, there are other verses like that by the way of fyi to you. Now does somebody, called John the Baptist strike any cord with you, lol. Smh. Are you familiar with the name John the Baptist, Jesus' cousin, hmm? Well, keep on as you usually do, which is, arguing blindly, lol

Empiree:
Guy, you have been scammed.
Therefore let us leave the elementary doctrine of Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, Hebrews 6:1

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Empiree:
So are you following Jesus or Paul?

"Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.
(i.e. Imitate me, then, just as I imitate Christ.)"
- 1 Corinthians 11:1

My beloved dear favourite Muslim brother friend Empiree, it goes without saying that both Apostle Paul and MuttleyLaff, yours truly, obediently and proudly follow Yahshua Ha Mashiach, that to you means, we follow Jesus, the Anointed One, lol

Christianity Etc › Re: Boxing Champion Wilder Challenged Jesus Christ And Regrets It. by MuttleyLaff: 3:48pm On Mar 07, 2020

Drdreyy:
In this video, it can be clearly seen that wilder challenged the God of Fury before the fight. Fury believes in Jesus Christ. While it seems wilder doesn't believe in God

Wilder took it to the extreme when he said "this fight is going to be a fight between your God and my god"

Well, we all know the outcome of the match and wilder has reversed his statement and now believes God is real.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Wj7tYm9vHKU
saying
cc: Lalasticlala Mynd44

That demon inside Deontay, at the 2:02-2:14 mark was shouting out from Deontay, "... there's only one Bronze Bomber, there's only one Bronze Bomber, there's only one Bronze Bomber ..." and this was so surreal to watch. Hmmm.

Christianity Etc › Re: Boxing Champion Wilder Challenged Jesus Christ And Regrets It. by MuttleyLaff: 3:43pm On Mar 07, 2020*

SeunTheOwner:
Tyson Fury is a Backslider and a Chronic Mastubator that need to repent of his sin

Show me a perfect man. Everyone of us is WiP.

sniperr007:
You are in his house to know he masturbates and God that has judged him.
Weldon

Dont mind that one. Tyson that has five kids with his lovely and beautiful wife. If God had wanted him to not masturbate, He would have made made him Tyrannosaurus rex and not Tyson Fury.

SeunTheOwner:
You are not current in the news

Tyson Fury Masturbates 7 Times A Day As Part Of Wilder Rematch Preparations
https://www.nairaland.com/5631637/tyson-fury-masturbates-7-times

He explained the benefits he gets from masturbating, which among other things is to keep the "testosterone flowing" from his energy release. It obviously is not every time his missus, for one reason or the other, will be in the mood and you dont expect my man Tyson to go philandering, or do you now, hmm?

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