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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Tetragrammaton? What Is Its Rightful Pronunciation? by MuttleyLaff: 10:37pm On Oct 29, 2020

Samunique:
Pls throw more light on the bold. How is God's name not to be known ?

Pls compare and contrast this following scripture where God clearly told Moses His name in Exodus 6:3

Pls compare and contrast Exodus 3:13 and Exodus 3:14 and review with Exodus 6:3

Samunique:
Exodus 6:3
And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty ( El Shadai ) but by my name JEHOVAH ( יהוה) was I not known to them.

Isn't God revealing His name to Moses here ?

Talking of Exodus 6:3, compared with the patriarchs, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, we are in a privileged and peculiar standing with God. Why? It is because the patriarchs, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, only knew God as El-Shaddai or God Almighty, meaning that, God was revealed to them only, as an Influential Being having complete power but not as God reveals to us that by the descriptor Yahweh and essentially that He will be "I AM that I AM" for us, which He demonstrated to the Israelites throughout the liberation and journey to the Promised Land. He was the water giving Rock. He was a pillar of cloud during the day shielding the Israelites and a pillar of fire at night protecting them et cetera

It is miraculous things like that is what God wants to be renowned for, is what God wants to be talked about and be famous for. God in Exodus 6:3, is saying that, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob experienced Him as God Almighty, but they never experienced Him, never saw Him, never tasted Him as "I AM that I AM" "I SHALL BE that I SHALL BE" "I SHALL BECOME that I SHALL BECOME" Whatever it was necessary for God to legitimately and legally become, He did for the Israelites to be freed from slavery in Egypt and to inherit the Promised Land in Canaan

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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Tetragrammaton? What Is Its Rightful Pronunciation? by MuttleyLaff: 10:12pm On Oct 29, 2020

illicit:
Thou shall not call the name of thy Lord they God in vain....

don't that mean that there is a name. for the God

But no one must use it.

Tbh with you "Thou shall not call the name of thy Lord they God in vain...." actually means dont bring whatever the personal name of God represents in to disrepute

Of course God has a name, but the Bible clearly on at least three occasions refused to reveal what God's personal name is. The Bible politely gives the reason for not saying what God's name, and that is because the name is wonderful, meaning it is impossible to understand, is not able to be understood and/or it is incomprehensible. Hearing what the name is, will render the hearer, dumbfounded, lost for words and effectively speechless. The name is hidden, is a secret because it's meaning is beyond comprehension and it's a name that works miracles. the closest anyone will get to knowing or feeling what the name is will be through the expressive "I AM that I AM,” descriptor declaration

Is "illicit" by any way, your personal name? Of course you have a personal name, of which clearly, "illicit" is not that in any way what your personal name is

Affirmative, no one must know the name. No one must use it, so that the name won't run the risk of being put to wrong use, from being misused, abused or even confused up with another name

illicit:
is the graphological representation of 'I AM'

The graphological representation of 'I AM' is not God's personal name

'I AM', as I previously had shared, in fact, is an expressive descriptors conveying a profound verbal, written and recorded communique that God is a blank cheque. He is, fill in the infinite blanks. God will be whatever legitimately and legally necessary is required for God to be

illicit:
Moses asked God that what was he to say, if the Israelites and Pharaoh asked that who sent him, God replied that He is 'I AM that I AM'

"⁹Now, listen carefully! The cry of the Israelis has come to my attention about how severely the Egyptians have been oppressing them.
¹⁰So go! I am sending you to Pharaoh. Bring my people the Israelis out of Egypt.”
¹¹But Moses told God, “Who am I? How can I go to Pharaoh and bring the Israelis out of Egypt?”
¹²Then Godi said, “I certainly will be with you. And this will be the sign for you that it is I who sent you: When you have brought the people out of Egypt, all of you will serve God on this mountain.”
¹³Moses told God, “Look! When I go to the Israelis and tell them, ‘The God of your ancestors sent me to you,’ they’ll say to me, ‘What is his name?’ What should I say to them?”
¹⁴God replied to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM,” and then said, “Tell the Israelis: ‘I AM sent me to you.""
- Exodus 3:9-14

Please review the two questions put out in Exodus 3:13 and compare with the answer given in Exodus 3:14

God, intentionally disregarded and completely declined to say anything in reply to the first question of Exodus 3:13, but clearly only gave a response to just the second question of Exodus 3:13. The first question "What is his name?” was ignored, but to the second question " What should I say to them?” God's response was saying, an expressive "I AM WHO I AM,” descriptor declaration and then advising Moshe aka Moses to say to the Israelites that he was sent to them by: "I AM"

illicit:
That is infact is God's name and the israelites forbid anyone to use the name, so it was....

Please tell me who you are. Please tell me what your name is. Please tell me in a sentence what your Nairaland user ID name is. Thanks in advance for granting these easy, simple, innocent, harmless, point blank and straight forward requests

cc: Samunique

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Tetragrammaton? What Is Its Rightful Pronunciation? by MuttleyLaff: 8:22pm On Oct 29, 2020

fiyinfoluwa29093:
What is the Tetragrammaton?
How is it rightfully pronounced?
What is the History underpinning the Tetragrammaton?
Thank you

MuttleyLaff:
Tetragrammaton is a set of descriptor words about God, that is used to assuredly express the certainty of ''I AM" carrying the speaking sense of God, being the Being with infinite capabilities (i.e. infinite ability to do anything, infinite ability to be anything, infinite capacity to understand and respond to any situations et cetera)

The Tetragrammaton, is defining the limitless iterability of the Beingness of God (i.e. illogical and logical possibilities of who, whom, and what God can be, also where and when God can be)
It linguistically, is pronounced, vocalised or articulated as Yahweh.
The Tetragrammaton, in fact and actually, is a composition of Hebraic four letters, namely Y, H, W and H. These four Hebraic four letters form the Hebrew word, from which the Hebraic four letters are transliterated as YHWH and are linguistically, pronounced, vocalised or articulated as Yahweh.
To Yah be the Glory

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Tetragrammaton? What Is Its Rightful Pronunciation? by MuttleyLaff: 8:21pm On Oct 29, 2020

Samunique:
Yea, all Hebrew letters are consonants but that doesn't , the native hebrew speaking people cannot pronounce some words without the vowel marks.

Remember that the modern hebrew writers no longer include those vowel marks in the writings.

which means correct pronunciations of many words are very possible, with the exception of the holy name of God whose pronunciation we are not sure of.... יְהוָה יהוה YHWH/YHVH .

You pronounce יְהוָה יהוה, YHWH/YHVH as linguistically, pronounceable as anyone possibly can vocalise or articulate the letters

illicit:
Yes

the reason being that, God's name wasn't meant to be pronounced. it's is forbidden.

יְהוָה יהוה, and alternatively, YHWH/YHVH neither, are God's name. יְהוָה יהוה, and alternatively, YHWH/YHVH are in fact expressive descriptors conveying a profound verbal, written and recorded communique

As a matter of biblical fact and truth, God's name wasn't meant to be known, talks be pronounced, not because it is forbidden to pronounce, but it is because God never divulged what His personal name is.

Three times God's name was asked. Three times what the name is was declined. It is impossible to pronounce a name that was never given or a name that was not revealed what the name is.

God never said anywhere His name is forbidden to say, but it was the Jew, taking that stand, position and/or measure in trying to safeguard against any of them inadvertently violating the "Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain" third commandment

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Tetragrammaton? What Is Its Rightful Pronunciation? by MuttleyLaff: 5:23pm On Oct 29, 2020

illicit:
YHWH

The pronunciation is lost....

No vowel sounds between the consonants so it's hard to know the pronunciation....

The name Jesus, Joshua are one and same.... the original pronunciation is lost as well....

Samunique:
Pls the name name Jesus and Joshua may sound alike but they share no similarity in the way they're spelt.

This is Joshua : יְהוֹשֻׁעַ .... Yehoshua

This is Jesus : ישוע ...... yeshua

And it's erroneous for you to say the original pronunciation is lost.

though different races may pronounce the name in different ways but that doesn't mean the original pronunciation of Jesus name in His native tongue in longer existing .

illicit:
yeah yeah yeah

the spelling changed over a long period of time but the meaning remains the same....

The vowels were inserted by scholars, the old texts usually contain no vowel hence no one can say how it's pronounced exactly....

Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, has it, where "Yahshua" means "Yah saves" or "God saves" in effect carrying the meaning that Salvation comes from God

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Tetragrammaton? What Is Its Rightful Pronunciation? by MuttleyLaff: 4:58pm On Oct 29, 2020

Preciousgirl:
What is the Tetragrammaton?

Tetragrammaton is a set of descriptor words about God, that is used to assuredly express the certainty of ''I AM" carrying the speaking sense of God, being the Being with infinite capabilities (i.e. infinite ability to do anything, infinite ability to be anything, infinite capacity to understand and respond to any situations et cetera)

The Tetragrammaton, is defining the limitless iterability of the Beingness of God (i.e. illogical and logical possibilities of who, whom, and what God can be, also where and when God can be)

Preciousgirl:
How is it rightfully pronounced?

It linguistically, is pronounced, vocalised or articulated as Yahweh.

Preciousgirl:
What is the History underpinning the Tetragrammaton?

The Tetragrammaton, in fact and actually, is a composition of Hebraic four letters, namely Y, H, W and H. These four Hebraic four letters form the Hebrew word, from which the Hebraic four letters are transliterated as YHWH and are linguistically, pronounced, vocalised or articulated as Yahweh.

Preciousgirl:
Thank you

To Yah be the Glory

Christianity Etc › Re: The Mulberry Tree And Forgiveness: A Conversation Between Corn And Acehart by MuttleyLaff: 12:22pm On Oct 29, 2020

Acehart:
Cc: WoundedLamb
A CONVERSATION ON LUKE 17:1-10

Corn: “ Honestly, I enjoyed reading your exposition”

Acehart: “Deacon Keh is disappointed at the guy’s response“

Corn: “I kinda understood you when you talked about the past attempts to ‘speak things into being’ that didn't pan out so... But when we look at Jesus' talk about mustard seed and speaking to things... I honestly get confused. “Replace “confused“ with “uncertain“”. The disciples asked Jesus to increase their faith...“

Acehart: “Concerning what?“

Corn: “I'm looking at the one in Luke 17“.

Acehart: “Very easy. The mountain was repeated offenses.”

Corn: “So they were to speak offenses away?“

Acehart: “No! Not that way.“

Corn: “How then?“

Acehart: “Look at the exclamation in verse 5; Jesus gave them a very difficult task: Forgive every time your brother comes to ask for forgiveness after he offends you. The guys scream, AH! Like Yoruba people. Increase our faith sounds like: increase our power to do this.”

Corn: “Hmmm.“

Acehart: “Then Jesus compares the ease of forgiving a multiple offender to the ‘ease‘ a servant serves his master dinner after spending hours taking care of sheep in the field. The servant’s master doesn’t care what he thinks; So Jesus doesn’t care what the disciples think. They must do what He bids them do.“

Corn: “I’m speechless and sad. It’s a difficult task”.

Acehart: “So they must not care for the stubborn nature of the unforgiving heart. They must deal with it and forgiveness would spring forth. Wow! A mulberry tree must be a very difficult tree to uproot.“

Corn: So, was the talk about commanding the mulberry tree to uproot itself and plant itself in the water figurative?

Acehart: “The heart is the issue, rather, the bruised heart and its tendency not to forgive after a lot of hurt“

Corn: “I get this part. What I don't get is why He made the reference to the tree and commanding it. Honestly, it seems like a sharp detour. And then He continues with the servant talk.”

Acehart: “Let me go back to study those verses again. I’ll get back to you.“

Corn: “Later“.

[Six days later]

Acehart: I haven’t forgotten about our last conversation and these are my findings concerning speaking to the mulberry tree and offenses using Esau and Joseph’s life experience:

1. Offender’s response to the offended: speak about your life’s history and your present effort to make amends. (Gen. 32)

2. The response of the offended: Speak and continue speaking to the offender. (Gen. 33:4-9). Keep speaking. (Gen 42).

Luke 17:1-10. Offenses to little ones:

The offense cause the little ones to stumble. What offenses causes the “little ones” to stumble?:

1. Injustice (Luke 18)
2. False teaching (James 3: 1-17, James 2:10-12); the effect of wrong teaching of tribulation and its persecution because of the shallow understanding of the word. (Matthew 13:20-21)

A Babylonian etiological myth, which Ovid incorporated in his Metamorphoses, attributes the reddish-purple color of the mulberry fruits to the tragic deaths of the lovers Pyramus and Thisbe.

“Some North American cities have banned the planting of mulberries because of the large amounts of pollen they produce, posing a potential health hazard for some pollen allergy sufferers. (They are also invasive).

The dripping juice from its fruits leaves behind a fermenting stench.

“The mulberry tree in Israel was grown in abundance and used to build coffins. The mulberry tree was a very tough, durable wood that resisted decay, much like today's treated lumber so it was used to build caskets. The moment, Jesus brought up the mulberry tree everyone's mind went to death, funerals and the use of that tree.” (Quoted)

Like I suggested the last time we spoke, the parable was about the unforgiving heart. Jesus was portraying is that the sin of unforgiveness is a sin that brings forth death in our lives.

I went to the book of Genesis to check out how two of the most hurt guys in the scriptures - Esau and Joseph, handled the “unforgivable”. The offended kept on talking to the offender(s). The offenders too kept on speaking (about their offense and their continuous effort to make amends); the offended took great effort to speak to the offender (without blocking any channel for reconciliation).

No wonder the disciples exclaimed “Increase our faith!”. Jesus continues by explaining the very tired servant’s (mental) effort to satisfy his master’s needs - so it is for the little one’s effort to have mercy on the offender.

Why then should we forgive?

Proverbs 17:22 - A joyful heart is good medicine, But a broken spirit dries up the bones.

I read somewhere that many people diagnosed with cancer had bitterness of heart (towards someone or something) prior to having the disease.

May the Lord help us to forgive everyone or every system that has hurt us in Christ’s name. Amen.

Corn: I see...Thanks for this

A WhatsApp conversation in December MMXIX.
Cc: Mr ‘spiritual maintenance’, MuttleyLaff, are you doing preventive maintenance or repairs or an overhaul?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Yahushua The Messiah Was With The Father From The Beginning. by MuttleyLaff: 1:19pm On Oct 28, 2020

MuttleyLaff:
"But what about you?” Jesus asked. “Who do you say I AM?”
Peter answered, “You are the Christ.”"
- Mark 8:29

"²Now Judas also, who was betraying Him, knew the place, for Jesus had often met there with His disciples.
³Judas then, having received the Roman cohort and officers from the chief priests and the Pharisees, came there with lanterns and torches and weapons.
⁴So Jesus, knowing all the things that were coming upon Him, went forth and said to them, “Whom do you seek?”
⁵They answered Him, “Jesus the Nazarene.” He said to them, “I AM He.”
And Judas also, who was betraying Him, was standing with them.
⁶So when He said to them, “I AM He,” they drew back and fell to the ground."
- John 18:2-6

See Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, at Mark 8:2, dropping subtle hints and leaving telltale signs that He is YHWH, lmso.

The striking, absolute and overwhelming power of the pronouncing "I AM" (i.e. ehyeh, from Ehyeh Asher-Ehyeh, I AM that I AM aka YHWH) at John 18:5-6, caught them by surprise, that the extent of the effect of "I AM," made them go backward and yakata fall to the ground. Praise God. Alleluia.

Christianity Etc › Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MuttleyLaff: 5:00pm On Oct 26, 2020

MaxInDHouse:
@MuttleyLaff
I didn't say Achorladey is a homosexual, he's just brother in the same faith.
That's what people like Apostle Paul and Max detests vehemently! 1Corinthians 6:9
I'm sure you're part of the moderators on this forum because each time you earn a ban, you often start commenting within the next few minutes whereas others will have to wait for the next 24hrs.
But that's not going to change anything, JWs will never worship with a homosexual, even if you're one before you start associating, it's either you stop the demonic act or you hide it from the congregation like fornicators, adulterers, pedophiles, drunkards, spiritists and others

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Hmm, awọn aiye, ọmọ Adamọ
You made sure you forced me to emerge from my "Temporarily closed for Spiritual Servicing & Maintenance" hiatus

Why couldn't you use this same intelligence to know, understand and figure out that the words translated from Greek to the following English words: "effeminate," "idolaters," "fornicators" and "adulterers" in 1 Corinthians 6:9, do not convey Apostle Paul's original import nor the explicit meaning of the Greek original words, hmm?

No more comment from my end before "Temporarily closed for Spiritual Servicing & Maintenance" is over

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Christianity Etc › Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MuttleyLaff: 9:32pm On Oct 25, 2020*

Janosky:
Bros , according to your link , was Jesus resurrected body "different from before his crucifixion "?

Do you now agree that the title of your link is "Jesus use the same body" is FALSE ?

According to your link, the Roman soldiers "literally drained the blood from Jesus body, is that claim in your own Bible?

Why would Jesus be able to appear and disappear if he's not floating like spirits ?

Do you at all have any idea what kind of bodies A&E had before their fall from grace to grass, hmm?

What exactly was it that Eve felt intense mental pain and profound sorrow over, that she from great mental anguished, worried and agonised herself over, from knowing that though they were exposed but because of a particular transcendent cover, were not bothered nor ashamed, but then as soon or almost immediately after eating of the fruit from TKGE, they felt and sensed the loss of this transcendent covering, so caused them cover up and go into hiding at sound of hearing the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the breeze of the day. It defo wasn't just only merely or ordinarily just the transcendent covering that they lost, there must have been some other things else associated with the transcendent covering, in terms of the empowerment the covering gave them, but that's all gone and got lost along with losing the actual transcendent covering itself, lmso

It is not rocket science to see how Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ was cycling everything back to the beginning, meaning without sin, A&E had glorified bodies, as a result of being clothed in garment of righteousness, but from the moment sin crept in, they were stripped off it. I can imagine Eve, beating herself up over the unpleasant and embarrassing situation they landed themselves in, after her, offering Adam, her husband, the fruit to eat.

Another intriguing combination to reflect upon is the woman who brought an alabaster jar of expensive perfume, poured it over Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ' head and anointed His feet with the same perfume too. What significant purpose to serve, was she doing all that for, to Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ for, hmm, lmso?

Now also consider why importantly or shall I say, scientifically or biologically, lmso, didnt Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ resurrect later than the third day or even at most, past the fourth day, lmso
cc: Acehart, lmso

Christianity Etc › Re: Pope Endorses Same-sex Civil Unions, Says Homosexuals Are Children Of God by MuttleyLaff: 5:00pm On Oct 25, 2020*

Eviana:
Wow.....lol.
Nice to be conversing with you again Mr. Muttley....long time....no see.

You have an infectious captivating charm, lmso. Ditto with you. Long time ... no hear/see, lmso

Eviana:
Do you know that I have adopted a scripture verse (one of many) that should govern how I am supposed to live my life?
It's the following verse:

Psalm 119:165 (KJV)
165 Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them

Sooo in light of that verse, and with all due respect to you, I cannot be offended by your repeated reminder and lovely "singled-out recommendation to me alone" that I should once and for all do the following:

2 Timothy 2:15 (KJV)]
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Honestly though, I am humbled and grateful hat you took the time to respond to me on this thread.
I will take your reproof to heart and try to answer all of your questions to me.

The prophecy I am speaking of is in regards to the scripture passage that I have used often on Nairaland.

2 Timothy 3:1-7, 16 (KJV)
1This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

SPECIAL NOTE FROM ME E.VIANA: VERSE 2 IS NOT REFERRING TO HOMOSEXUALITY, BUT DEALING WITH PRIDE AND SELFISHNESS.

Thumbs up to the "SPECIAL NOTE FROM ME E.VIANA: VERSE 2 IS NOT REFERRING TO HOMOSEXUALITY, BUT DEALING WITH PRIDE AND SELFISHNESS" sic comment. How can anyone possibly improve on that "flesh and blood did not reveal this you" comment. Wehdone Ma'am

Eviana:
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness

Are ALL human beings a creation of God? Absolutely...
Does God LOVE everyone? Absolutely....
Does God HATE sin? Absolutely...
Will God allow anyone with ANY unrepentant sin in his/her life to enter into the eternal Kingdom? Absolutely NOT
Will SIN ever come into existence again after His second Coming? NEVER AGAIN

So the question becomes this: What constitutes sin (which is the transgression of the law)?
Let's go to the scriptures and let me rightly divide it sir.

Proverbs 6:16-19 (KJV)
¹⁶ These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
¹⁷A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
¹⁸An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
¹⁹A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

So far, so good and you seem to be on a roll, lmso

Eviana:
Romans 1:27-32 (KJV)
²⁷And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
²⁸And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
²⁹Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
³⁰Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
³¹Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
³²Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11 (KJV)
⁹Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
¹⁰Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
¹¹And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God

WHO ARE THE CHILDREN OF GOD?

1 John 3:10 (KJV)
In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

Matthew 12:50 (KJV)
For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Matthew 7:21-23
²¹Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
²²Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
²³And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity

1 Peter 4:18-19 (KJV)
¹⁸ And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?
¹⁹ Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator

Just a few, sir, of the numerous scriptural passages that help explain the Word of God as opposed to a man i(regardless of who he is) interpreting what "he" thinks should be the cultural norm.
Just so you know, sin is sin...no matter what it is...as I have shown throughout the above scripture references.
We have been given clear guidelines on what it is. No sin is greater or lesser than another.
No one should harass or physical, verbally, mentally or emotionally abuse someone because of the sinful lifestyle that he/she is in.
No one has the right to murder a person because of it either.
People have a right to choose how they want to openly live (although clearly in Nigeria that is not the case).
However, those that claim to be followers of Christ and who read the Holy Bible....are NOT to interpret scripture how they decide (or what feels right) because of a cultural climate that is promoting an agenda
No one gets to change the WORD OF GOD to fit his/her own desires/inclinations.

I concur totally with you in all you've posted immediately above except for demurring on your unmistakable mentioning and slipping in of Romans 1:27-32 and 1 Corinthians 6:9-11.

Are you 2 Timothy 2:15 absolutely sure you have done the due diligence contextual and etymological study of like for example, the words translated from Greek to the following English words: "effeminate," "idolaters," "fornicators" and "adulterers" in 1 Corinthians 6:9, that do not convey Apostle Paul's original import nor explicit meaning of the Greek original words, hmm?

Now, I am not trying to get heavy really on you, but would YOU be so kind to put out ONE verse in the Bible, take any out of Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:26-27, 1 Corinthians 6:9 and/or 1 Timothy 1:10 and even whatnot, where any hint of homosexualism/homosexuality, is not linked to temple cult idolatry, lustful promiscuous sexual intercourse, offered temple male and/or female sex prostitution services, taking part in idolatry ritual sex-fuelled orgies, meaning none of them verses have any link nor anything bad to say about two God believing, have accepted Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, consenting adults, enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but exuding the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to from any other children of God to do.

Tbh with you, you'll be ruining the faith for others and giving every sons/daughters/men/women of God a bad name, if you insist on not stopping this charade of making the Bible mean now, what it did not mean back then and never not, in its original text.

Is it a crime for two to faithfully love each other, especially when there are three things that will last forever, namely—faith, hope, and love—and the greatest of these is love, hmm?

Christianity Etc › Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MuttleyLaff: 3:42pm On Oct 25, 2020*

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Christianity Etc › Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MuttleyLaff: 2:16pm On Oct 25, 2020*

MaxInDHouse:
Go and worship with MuttleyLaff, your homosexual brother in da lord!

Where and when did you learn that achorladey is homosexual, hmm? Have you irrefutable evidence that achorladey is homosexual, erhn?

MaxInDHouse formerly aka Maximus69:
She's my QUEEN!
For your information, i always shave the hairs in her puSsy because she's mine and mine alone!
So we both do everything together like babies, in fact most friends i have now are far too young to me because they want to know what exactly is keeping my wife and i so close, some thought it's jass until they hear how we met and all the things we've both been through!
Yes! I can do anything as in ANYTHING for my one and only Trivina!

MaxInDHouse:
I'm OK with my own wife in the one and only group that's worshiping the God i understood.

MuttleyLaff:
I am sure you've noticed that I ignored your AkinwaleJJ foolery and unsubstantiated "hmmm, so you're homosexual ..." claim, but now you out of frustration, want to rope me in with Bobrisky and purporting that he lives in Nigeria with me. Is this the sort of intelligence gathering tattered training you were put through, make up stories and fit up people you have dealing with on false charges, hmm.

You are a self confessed extremely unpleasant and unsavoury bigot, who especially, discriminates against the sort of persons, who are, like two God believing, have accepted Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, consenting adults, enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but exuding the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to from any other children of God to do, that you wouldnt have them worship God together with you. You rather they be ostracised.

I wonder what you will do, if at the point of death, and it happens that a homosexual is the only person alive who can medically save you, asks that you both join hands together, to say a prayer of agreement together to God. I would hazard a guess that, you'll probably bite your nose off to spite your face, lmso

You're unable to give the answer to "What in one word, outlives marriage?" but you rather without empirical evidence to support your wild goose chase, are hellbent persistent in trying hard to homosexualise me. Your sort, usually are closet homosexuals anyway and into all sort of kinky stuff, that by yourself, you've admitted to be up to on this forum, so I won't be surprised when you get forced to come out from your homosexual closet, lmso

Fyi, making homosexuality per se, a sin, is a Constantine Christian invention, so you please, better don't go there, that direction, lmso. Ani, don’t ever go that way, lmso

If you are OK with your wife, then, leave in peace for them too to be happy, loving each other, any two God believing, have accepted Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, consenting adults, enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but exuding the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to from any other children of God to do. Why put discriminating against homosexuals for head, like as if you're a shrimp.

No one faults you, for your circulated here on this forum by at least one poster, info about your alleged enjoyment of having anal sex, shaving hair from honeypot, your confession of committing past rapes and even confessing to enjoy having your chicken stroked and in kinky fashion marvelled at

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Christianity Etc › Re: As A Christian, How Do I Resist The Urge To Watch Porn? by MuttleyLaff: 10:24am On Oct 25, 2020*

derrick015:
Good morning.

Please I need suggestions.

What kind of prayers should I pray when the temptation arises, which Bible verse should I read?

Please know this is someone who's been addicted to porn for more than 7 years.

None other than a prayer for a strong willpower

HRHQueenPhil:
boss, unfortunately no prayers or singing can help u here.the solution is to never be idle. What I mean is evry hour has to be u doing something..also build urself up spiritually by attending nathaniel bassey midnight praise and prayer sessions,reading books, listening to tapes. The bible says the Spirit entered into me as he spake unto me and set me upon my feet. And u know God word is Spirit and it's life. So feed ur spiritman so when such thoughts come ,ur Spirit man kills it immediately
Now building urself up bus a DAILY ritual just like gyming to have abs. if u abandon this regimen for just 2 days..dat porn Spirit will return
Also try and get married, solves half of ur issues

Am confident that as u seek to find a way out of ur predicament, Holy Spirit will visit u with more revelation and show u d way out

I would like to gum to your post that channelling his energy in a positively productive venture(s) other than giving in to unnecessary and avoidable self gratification, lusting after others bodies et cetera is best.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Yes, No One Should Condemn A Homosexual — Nigerian Catholic Priest Advises by MuttleyLaff: 9:27am On Oct 25, 2020*

MaxInDHouse:
Guy i'm sure Bobrisky lives in Nigeria with you so you can easily locate his church to join him in praising da lord, simbarry shout Hallelujah!

I am sure you've noticed that I ignored your AkinwaleJJ foolery and unsubstantiated "hmmm, so you're homosexual ..." claim, but now you out of frustration, want to rope me in with Bobrisky and purporting that he lives in Nigeria with me. Is this the sort of intelligence gathering tattered training you were put through, make up stories and fit up people you have dealing with on false charges, hmm.

You are a self confessed extremely unpleasant and unsavoury bigot, who especially, discriminates against the sort of persons, who are, like two God believing, have accepted Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, consenting adults, enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but exuding the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to from any other children of God to do, that you wouldnt have them worship God together with you. You rather they be ostracised.

I wonder what you will do, if at the point of death, and it happens that a homosexual is the only person alive who can medically save you, asks that you both join hands together, to say a prayer of agreement together to God. I would hazard a guess that, you'll probably bite your nose off to spite your face, lmso

MaxInDHouse:
For your life as a homosexual i heard simbarry praising da lord!
Halleluyah!

You're unable to give the answer to "What in one word, outlives marriage?" but you rather without empirical evidence to support your wild goose chase, are hellbent persistent in trying hard to homosexualise me. Your sort usually are closet homosexuals anyway and into all sort of kinky stuff you've admitted to be up to on this forum, so I won't be surprised when you get forced to come out from the closet, lmso

Fyi, making homosexuality per se, a sin, is a Constantine Christian invention, so you please, better don't go there, that direction, lmso. Ani, don’t ever go that way, lmso

Christianity Etc › Re: Yes, No One Should Condemn A Homosexual — Nigerian Catholic Priest Advises by MuttleyLaff: 8:37am On Oct 25, 2020*

MaxInDHouse:
Guy you and i have nothing to share or exchange, i've quoted the words of my own God showing you the purpose of marriage and the standard he set from inception. So if you choose another way it's OK. Go and worship with your kind!

What in one word, outlives marriage?

Anyway, since you are incapable of showing ONE itsy bitsy teeny weeny verse in the Bible, as meaning, any out of Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:26-27, 1 Corinthians 6:9 and/or 1 Timothy 1:10 and even whatnot, where any hint of homosexualism/homosexuality, in them, is not linked to temple cult idolatry, lustful promiscuous sexual intercourse, offered temple male and/or female sex prostitution services, taking part in idolatry ritual sex-fuelled orgies et cetera, then I am Holy Ghost sanctifiedly fully vindicated. Praise God. Alleluia.

Christianity Etc › Re: Yes, No One Should Condemn A Homosexual — Nigerian Catholic Priest Advises by MuttleyLaff: 7:12am On Oct 25, 2020*

MaxInDHouse:
You're just deceiving yourself!

You would just love to believe that I am deceiving myself, won't ya?. It would just be convenient wish come true for you, if I was deceiving myself, wouldn't it just be, huh, lmso? Unfortunately wishful thinking is all you consolatory have. Pẹẹlẹ. Sorry. Ndo.

None of any of the losing count questions put at you, have you had the decency, courtesy, sincerity and good manners to respond to with sensible, direct and correct replied back answers

You havent been able to list what specifically is the evil committed by two God believing, have accepted Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, consenting adults, enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but exuding the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to from any other children of God to do

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus is the Chosen King of God's Kingdom! Isaiah 9:6
Jesus chose Paul as an Apostle to the Gentiles including you who is not a Jew! Act 9:15 compare to Galatians 1:15-16,2:8; 1Timothy 2:7

Accepting Jesus as Master, Lord and King means preparedness to subject yourself to the regulations of his Kingdom as explained by his chosen Apostle Paul who was asked to teach you all the tenets of his kingdom, Paul emphatically listed the habits that will not be tolerated in the Kingdom of the one who appointed him (Paul) as an Apostle to warn you!
So for Paul to have mentioned homosexuality {1 Corinthians 6:9} as an habit God detests in his Kingdom and you are now trying to justify yourself simply mean you're not ready to accept Jesus as King, so be prepared to be exterminated whenever he comes to establish his kingdom! Luke 19:27

Take this as a free biblical educational opportunity, to unlearn the lie, that Apostle Paul mentioned homosexuality or even homosexual in 1 Corinthians 6:9, lmso, because just as I earlier fleetingly informed Prettygirl27, the word used by Apostle Paul in the original text is the Greek word "arsenokoites," which interestingly enough, is a portmanteau word invented by the good Apostle Paul himself, created and used to drive home a point, on promiscuity, particularly the same sex attraction sort about jumping from one "koite" to another "koite" or even indiscriminately sharing "koite" hence committing unfaithfulness, disloyalty, causing mistrust, disappointment, misery, unkindness et cetera lmso.

There are a lot more lies in the 1 Corinthians 6:9 can of worms, that will crawl out, if you're 2 Timothy 2:15 brave, bold and biblically self assured to open it up, lmso, like for example, the words translated from Greek to the following English words: "effeminate," "idolaters," "fornicators" and "adulterers" in 1 Corinthians 6:9, do not convey Apostle Paul's original import nor explicit meaning of the Greek original text

As I previously kindly advised Prettygirl27, why not, you too, go brush away your bible truth decay, with etymological knowledge on "arsenokoites" nah, lmso

Now, I dare you MaxInDHouse, to show me ONE verse in the Bible, any out of Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:26-27, 1 Corinthians 6:9 and/or 1 Timothy 1:10 and even whatnot, where any hint of homosexualism/homosexuality, is not linked to temple cult idolatry, lustful promiscuous sexual intercourse, offered temple male and/or female sex prostitution services, taking part in idolatry ritual sex-fuelled orgies

MaxInDHouse:
Thanks!

You can shove your hollow and insincere thanks, right back up your rear end, exactly where the sun dont shine because that's where it rightly back in came from, belongs.

Christianity Etc › Re: Yes, No One Should Condemn A Homosexual — Nigerian Catholic Priest Advises by MuttleyLaff: 5:58am On Oct 25, 2020*

WoundedLamb:
Wow! Dude, do you know that even single people (both male and female) are allowed to adopte children in Nigeria today? So how the come the society didn't think of these your theories before allowing that? Or the kid adopted by these single people are more understanding than the one adopted by gay people? Do you know that they are millions of impotent men out there who depend on artificial insemination to procreate? What pressure are you already feeling from that? Or the pressure only arises if they are gay?

So all adopted children today are now greedy and desperate cause they feel they need money more than others to survive? So the all kids born to straight parents through artificial insemination today are now greedy and desperate cause they feel thet need money more that the rest of the world? So the children of gay people would feel desperate to have money even if they are straight themselves? Or you think they would be gay too cause the parents are gay? Why not also tell people to try and be poor so that their kids won't grow up being greedy and desperate? Why not tell people not to have doctorate so they their kids won't grow up desperate for money to get doctorate too?

Human needs like education, cars, houses, etc. are countless and they aren't giving you pressure until gay people need money to make kids? Dude, have you been to the orphanage before? I do go very regularly and I can tell you they are so many kids in the orphanage waiting to be adopted and no one is adopting them cause cause everyone is making thier own kids. Adoption cost could be as low as $500 (less that the cost of a good laptop). I do not see how this will cause more pressure than any reasonable property already caused out there. And not even every gay couple wants kids. You can't deny people the experience of marriage cause of some baseless pressure theory while you go about enjoying your own life, that's not just. Allow them get married and be happy. Let them worry about how they will make kids. Everyone deserves to be happy.

You're talking to discrimination personified MaxInDHouse, formerly aka Maximus69 RIP, who would rather not give financial assistance to soliciting in dire need non-Jehovah’s Witnesses. The excuse is that Jehovah’s Witnesses' primary mission is to help others spiritually, and not materially. Jehovah’s Witnesses will organize to provide relief and aid only to other Jehovah’s Witnesses.

Having close relationships with "worldly people" as all non-Jehovah’s Witnesses are called, is very strongly discouraged, because the excuse given, is that being friends with non-Jehovah’s Witnesses, is equated with, apparently disobeying God

Christianity Etc › Re: Yes, No One Should Condemn A Homosexual — Nigerian Catholic Priest Advises by MuttleyLaff: 4:37am On Oct 25, 2020*

MaxInDHouse:
You have repeated the bolded over five times now and i've heard you, the excuses you're trying to build around homosexuality will never change the mind of my own God who said after creating the first pair of humans (male and female)
"For this reason a man (male) will leave his father (male) and mother (female) and stick to his wife (female) and they will become one flesh" Genesis 2:24
Note how God was emphatic about the standards he set from inception, a man (male) will leave his parents who are (male and female) and continue with the same arrangement by sticking to a female!
So if you've changed your own nature to marrying a man like yourself {Leviticus 18:22} it's not my own problem, just know that there is nothing like worship that can bring you and i together {Psalms 1:1-3} we can work in the same place as colleagues, live in the same neighbourhood, enter the same bus, eat and drink in a social gathering but when it comes to worship, you and i must face opposite direction! 1Corinthians 6:9
Thanks!

So, with you categorically unable to provide proof of God emphatically objecting to two consenting adults, enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but exuding the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to from any other children of God to do, you are saying that you cant bring yourself to worship God together with two God believing, have accepted Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, consenting adults, enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but exuding the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to from any other children of God to do, abi, hmm? Nobi so, erhn?

Leviticus 18:22, interestingly enough, when contextually reviewed, has nothing about two consenting adults, enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but exuding the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to from any other children of God to do, but in fact, the verse along with Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:26-27, and even 1 Corinthians 6:9 and/or 1 Timothy 1:10 I would take you to task, that, each one of those verses are linked to cult idolatry, lust, temple promiscuous sexual intercourses, infidelity, unfaithfulness, disloyalty, evilness, temple cult prostitution et cetera .

Your opinionated stance and smirked face will change when faced with facts and truth, that are gummed with incontrovertible proofs, that Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:26-27, and even 1 Corinthians 6:9 and/or 1 Timothy 1:10 are not referring to two God believing, have accepted Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, consenting adults, enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but exuding the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to from any other children of God to do, but rather to homosexuality practices bordering on and/or linked to temple cult idolatry, lust, promiscuous sexual intercourse, infidelity, unfaithfulness, disloyalty, evilness, temple cult prostitution et cetera

Christianity Etc › Re: Natural Law And Homosexuality. by MuttleyLaff: 1:51am On Oct 25, 2020

"Your unfailing "love" will last forever.
Your "faithfulness" is as enduring as the heavens."
- Psalm 89:2

People dont follow the Bible at all. They simply just use it to attack minorities with. Smh sighing.

elated177 here, thinks God made us, human beings, to be baby making factory reproduction machines, that all, lmso, but what he doesnt understand is that, God wants us to live as heavenly as possible and not only live as earthly as possible. This is too deep, I know for elated177, but hey, love is love. Right? As in meaning, the "love" between two consenting adults, enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, "faithful", kind, caring, committed monogamous heterosexual/homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but exuding the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to from any other children of God to do and so why cant elated177 just leave all these two people alone in peace, instead of being a vile ignorant hateful immoral bigot bully!

You're ruining the faith for others and giving us, sons/daughters/men/women of God a bad name! Shame on you, especially when three things will last forever—faith, hope, and love—and the greatest of these is love!

Christianity Etc › Re: Natural Law And Homosexuality. by MuttleyLaff: 1:20am On Oct 25, 2020

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Christianity Etc › Re: Natural Law And Homosexuality. by MuttleyLaff: 1:00am On Oct 25, 2020

elated177:
Ravings, rantings and ramblings of reprobates.

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Sifia pains dey pepper gang him. lmso

Christianity Etc › Re: Yes, No One Should Condemn A Homosexual — Nigerian Catholic Priest Advises by MuttleyLaff: 12:02am On Oct 25, 2020

Prettygirl27:
I have checked your profile;

Excellent. At least you get to know you aren't dealing with baby Kingsway or some biblically wet behind the ears, lmso, so wear this as a lapel, don't ever underestimate anyone because you never know what true power they might be holding in, lmso

Prettygirl27:
... you should get an award for the longest responses on nairaland. It shows you think a lot; take away the superficiality and you'll make a fine gentleman.

We dont do what we do for sake of perishable secular awards.

Sorry, I can't vouch for you that, you at all, think deep enough because all I see, is that, you have glib and hypocrisy written all over you. I am sure you have no idea, what truth lies in a well, means, lmso

Prettygirl27:
Thank goodness your mentioned the Prime minister of Ireland. My dear, you need a bit of exposure; here is what Times magazine wrote about your shining star on January 28, 2020:

'Irish Senator Catherine Noone has apologized after calling Irish Prime Minister Leo Varadkar “autistic".“ He’s uncomfortable socially and he doesn’t always get the in-between bits,” Noone reportedly said while canvassing in Dublin, after being asked what she thought of Varadkar’s performance in a recent debate.

During the debate in question, Varadkar had been asked to respond to criticism that he does not “show empathy” on social issues, and with regards to the issue of homelessness specifically.

Autism is not widely considered an “illness,” as Noone described it, but a “spectrum disorder” or condition, per advocacy organization Autism Speaks.'

Unlike you, Irish Senator Catherine Noone had the good sense, to retract that prejudiced and under the belt comment, made in the desperate quest to unfairly rack up electoral votes for the office of Taoiseach race.

She is on record, to have said to be “mortified and humiliated” after she described Taoiseach Leo Varadkar as “autistic” and blamed tiredness from campaigning for her description of Leo Varadkar as autistic, but you thought it wise and morally OK, to bring it up again here. You must be a vile person, to not know, that even if its true Leo Varadkar is autistic, it only means he is different but not any less a human being than you and I are.

Prettygirl27:
Do you see that the Bible can't lie? It is your preconceived notion that stands in the way of your understanding. What this shows is anyone who reads Muttleylaff's comments should do a "cyclic redundancy check" on them because the devil is in his detailed explanation rather, his lengthy explanations has dark matter in them.

What I loud and clear see it you doing, are elaborate lies and lying as if it will soon go out of fashion.

Whatever I write, easily can be bible fact checked, can easily be investigated to see if true or not true, lmso. There are two kinds of light held here, the glow, held by me, that illuminates and the glare, held by you, that obscures.

I dont know why you are whinging about "his detailed explanation rather, his lengthy explanations", when the needle of truth is hidden in haystack of inherited and propagated lies, that it requires unraveled elaborate explanations to reveal it

Prettygirl27:
You asked about where St.Paul spoke against two consenting males or females in a relationship; have you ever heard of the 'silence of the scriptures'? It is known by the best Bible interpreters that the silence of the scriptures on any matter is most often than not prohibitive. I may not do a proper interpretation of the verses in the Romans or Hebrews but I'll lean on the silence of the scriptures as the truth.

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What a cop out, lmso.

Let try this out, there is the silence of the scriptures on cycling, driving a car, flying an aeroplanes et cetera, so why not let us, start preach prohibitions then, meaning against cycling, driving a car, flying an aeroplanes et cetera as God's word.

You reluctantly admitting, not doing a proper interpretation of the verses in the Romans or Hebrews, is a good and commendable start.

Prettygirl27:
Can two offenders exhibit the fruits of the spirit?

Please say specifically what exactly is the offence committed by these two consenting adults, enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but exuding the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to from any other children of God to do.

Prettygirl27:
Did the sons of Sceva hurt children, neighbor and environment? For you my dear, the end justifies the means - this is not what I was taught in the Bible; this is not what true children of God are taught; we were taught to have our thoughts processed in this manner:

“Whatsoever things are true,
whatsoever things are honest,
whatsoever things are just,
whatsoever things are pure,
whatsoever things are lovely,
whatsoever things are of good report ... think on these things.

Homosexuality does not pass the purity test. With God, the beginning justifies.

When the evil spirit answered, "Jesus I know, and I know about Paul, but who are you to the seven sons of Sceva, what was the reply? How did they answer, huh? What response did the seven sons of Sceva fire back at the evil spirit, hmm? I tell you the answer for free, dont worry. The answer, unsurprisingly, in one word is: "Nada", lmso. I know you're scratching your head wondering why "Nada", lmso. It is because they have no relationship with Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ. There are opportunists, earning a crust, making money off people's misery, affliction, desperation et cetera. They weren't doing the exorcisms without charging money for it. They weren't doing it coming from having compassion. The exorcisms weren't done out of genuine, selfless love or because of their milk of human kindness, lmso.

Affirmative. Yes, the sons of Sceva did hurt children, neighbor and environment. The seven sons of Sceva hurt them in the pocket.

Now compared with two consenting adults, enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, would you say the seven sons of Sceva manifested any sign of the fruit of the Spirit, hmm? I would like you to list what fruit of the Hoy Spirit the seven sons of Sceva manifested, so I can equally refuted it and then point out the fruit of the Spirit manifested by two consenting adults, enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, lmso.

Give me your inexhaustible list of how homosexuality does not pass the purity test, and I will match each one with how homosexuality does pass the purity test, lmso.

Christianity Etc › Re: Natural Law And Homosexuality. by MuttleyLaff: 10:17pm On Oct 24, 2020

tobechi74:
Homosexuality is biological. God did not make a mistake creating one

Aye, you are bullseye right there.

By design of God, gay behaviour is observed in nature, that animal and plant species, as per God's design do gay behaviour.

In fact, you see, God always has Omni-Competence and so He knew same sex relationships will eventually happen, so He by design, gave both male and female their individual G-spots. Isn't God just too Excellent and Amazing, hmm?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Natural Law And Homosexuality. by MuttleyLaff: 10:02pm On Oct 24, 2020

elated177:
1 Samuel 16:7
But YHVH said to Samuel, “Do not consider his appearance or his height, for I have rejected him. YHVH does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the YHVH looks at the heart.”

Some demon-possessed individuals have twisted this Scripture. This portion of the Scripture is clear and self-explanatory. The Father in heaven, Yahveh Almighty, does not look at physical appearance whenever he wants to appoint his servants. He sure does look at what we do.

There is a reason Satan is pushing so hard for acceptance of the abominable and detestable act of homosexuality.

''... For the LORD does not see as man sees;
for man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart.”
(i.e. ... God does not see as humans see.
Humans look at outward appearances, but the LORD looks into the heart)"
- 1 Samuel 16:7b

Will you stop proof-texting scripture. 1 Samuel 16:7b, is talking of about Far-I-See, you, a modern day Pharisse, making unrighteous judgment, when God knows what everyone is like. God knows everyone's hearts. It is God alone who knows the hearts of all men and God will repay each man according to all his ways, that like you fighting tooth and nail to stop two consenting adults from enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment.

I reiterate, let two harmless people do what they need to do to make each other happy and feel loved. Mind your own business and do what you need to do to make you and your partner happy and feel loved. Hatred paralyses life, love releases it. Hatred confuses life, love harmonises it. Hatred darkens life, love illuminates it. If you dont like gay relationships and/or marriage(s), then don't go out with a gay person and/or dont marry a gay person. It's as simple as that

You are merely being a tool in the devil's workshop, and this is the reason why forever, you are yet to say, what particularly is it, thats the abominable and detestable act of homosexuality, in two consenting adults, enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but exuding the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to from any other children of God to do.

You cant answer, what specifically is the evil done in two consenting adults, enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but exuding the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to from any other children of God to do. Hmm?.

Christianity Etc › Re: Yes, No One Should Condemn A Homosexual — Nigerian Catholic Priest Advises by MuttleyLaff: 9:07pm On Oct 24, 2020

MaxInDHouse:
I've told you my own God detests homosexuality so if yours condone it then it means we can only be "neighbours" not brothers in faith. Period!

God doesnt detest two consenting adults, enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but exuding the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to from any other children of God to do. Period.

Stop this charade of making the Bible mean now, what it did not mean back then and never not, in its original text.

Christianity Etc › Re: Yes, No One Should Condemn A Homosexual — Nigerian Catholic Priest Advises by MuttleyLaff: 9:03pm On Oct 24, 2020

Prettygirl27:
The priest had a lovely and objective view to homosexuality and homosexual marriage.

Its a shame, the same can't be said about you though

Prettygirl27:
When I read Romans 1, homosexuality is product of a degraded mind, what the scientists term 'mental disorder'.

If it really is a mental disorder, how was Leo Varadkar, allowed to serve as the Prime Minister of the republic of Ireland, hmm?

Prettygirl27:
St. Paul speaks of homosexuality, either as a cause or effect, as an indication that the society rejects the knowledge of God. So, only the propagation of the word of God can restore this anomaly to what is right.

Apostle Paul never spoke anything bad about two consenting adults, enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but exuding the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to from any other children of God to do

Prettygirl27:
Homosexuality is a sin; but the homosexual is one of God's creation, whom He sent Jesus to die for.

As heterosexuality is not a sin, so homosexuality is not a sin because God is not a respecter of persons, and on top that, Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, came to die for heterosexuals, homosexuals/lesbians, asexual and even bisexuals.

Prettygirl27:
The homosexual is only answerable to God since God is the judge of all flesh.

Everybody including you, not happy for two consenting adults, enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but exuding the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to from any other children of God to do, will have to answer and explain yourselves to God, who judges all flesh, why you kicked against these harmless two loving each other

Prettygirl27:
Did not the Bible say, "Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge."?

Whose bed are two consenting adults, enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but exuding the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to from any other children of God to do, defiling, hmm?

Are you filing charges of whoremongering, adultery, infidelity, promiscuity, unfaithfulness, disloyalty, cruelty, treachery against two consenting adults, enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but exuding the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to from any other children of God to do, ni, hmm?

Prettygirl27:
(Hebrew.13:4). So why do we judge things we don't fully understand?

You surely dont fully understand Hebrews 13:4, because the Greek word used in the original text is "gamos" which means a wedding celebration, wedding ceremony, banquet or feast must be respected for having and "koite," the Greek word, for cohabitation bed, must be pure, as in meaning, no extra third party affairs going on in it, lmso.

Why not go brush away your bible truth decay, with the knowledge on "arsenokoites". Note the familiarity with the "koite," word in Hebrews 13:4, lmso. You'll find out that "arsenokoites" is portmanteau word invented by Apostle Paul, created and used to drive home a point, on promiscuity, lmso

Prettygirl27:
Though St.Paul says God's decree for those who practice homosexuality is death, but death by whose hands? But it is also God's righteous decree for everyone to come to repentance; so the liars among us have the same privilege as homosexuals - we have an access to God's love.

Please be careful about what you say Apostle Paul says. He never said, God's decree for two consenting adults, enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but exuding the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to from any other children of God to do, is death ooo.

Prettygirl27:
If those who are preachers of God's word refuse to make knowledge of God clearer and undiluted; if they withhold their zeal from correcting the wrongs in the society, which usually are the causes of homosexuality, because the earnest expectation of all creation waits for the manifestation of the Sons of God, and they refuse to manifest, then they are to blame.

C'mon, stop already all these shenanigans. List the so called fantasy "wrongs in the society, which usually are the causes of homosexuality," sic

Prettygirl27:
The pope has said nothing wrong; and those who have an issue with understanding what he said, should look into their lives and if they find their righteousness to be the same as God's, let them cast their stones at the Pope and homosexuals.

You seem to display a Jekyll and Hyde, two-sided personality writing style. One minute, it seems you're kicking SSA, the next minute you seem to warm to it.

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