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SisterFire:
you are always talking out of point grow up

Image123:
There's nothing spiritual in the action, he is only making a mockery of the Christian faith. God didn't send him all this.

Preciousgirl:
1 Timothy 3:16 says God was manifested in the flesh.

We know that, Satan counterfeits the works of God, typical example was when Moses rod turned to a serpent and Pharoahs diviners also had their staffs turn to serpents as well

My Question: Do satanic spirits also take up flesh and get born as children? Those that go to false prophets and fetish priests for children, are those children real children from God?

Thanks

Image123:
No, evil spirits don't have such ability or capacity or permission. All souls belong to God. Satan cannot create any baby. However, he can possess a child same way he possesses an animal or non living idols like trees, clothes, gifts etc.
On meeting fetish and false prophets for children. It's possible. Satan cannot produce anything good.

However, note that as he stole earth, authority, riches and power from man. He also steals answers to prayers from people. Many people's wealth, blessings and children have been hijacked by the devil. He can then give people as "gifts". But he didn't create them. Hope this is better understood?

Goshen360:
Let me give a clear example of spiritualizing a text AS INTERPRETATION instead of interpretation which the end result is SPIRITUAL.

When I was growing in a church I got born again, there's this big so called respected and anointed man of God he preached from Isaiah 6 v 1

In the year that king Uzziah died, I saw the Lord....

He "spiritualized" Uzziah in his interpretation to mean an enemy that is king over your life, meaning in order for you to see the Lord manifest in your life, your king Uzziah must die, etc

We grew up and swallowed such teaching because we didn't know better. That's what I mean "spiritualizing" the text.

On the the other hand, interpretation of text as it is with the intent of the author that the end result of it is spiritual is an example like this

You must be born again....

So when we understand what he explained to be born again, the interpretation doesn't mean 2 things it means just one thing and the result of the interpretation is SPIRITUAL without us "spiritualizing" the text.

Goshen360:
I hope my point is clear

Blabbermouth:
MuttleyLaff, your guinea pig experiment died even before it began .
#Memories

AvsGot007:
SEEKING THE TRUTH AND KNOWLEDGE OF THIS WORLD!

Chosen1984:
The Problem with you and those like you, is that you use the Physical to interpret the Spirtual!!
GOD ALMIGHTY, our Father in Heaven is a Spirit! Those that worship and Serve need to do it in Spirt and in Truth!
You Could pick up a passage in the Bible today and read and get an insight ! You could pick up the same passage some other day and get total new inspiration and Insight! That's because it's the Word of God. You Cannot Box the Word of GOD.

If you read my words with understanding and insight , you won't say what you said because I didn't say the Bible said Trump is the Last Trump! That was a an insight I A Personally got !

My Insight may not be it! My insight may be it!
That's For us to see...

GOD gives Signs and Insights everyday!
If you Have Followed my Summation, you would different sides but one Foundation which is JESUS..

If you had seen what By the Grace of God I put out on the American being the Great Babylon in the book of Revelation , you would see slight differences but one Foundation...

Atimes most of the things I put out is not really from me! I put them out as I am inspired to do..

One thing I know from my little walk with GOD which I have said for a very long time is President Trump Presidency is a kind of Mercy Period For the USA and the World at Large..

If Trump is not re-elected and the Church is still here on Earth, then the World would have a some feel of GOD'S Wrath!

I Believe the Rapture is so Close! I Believe that so much!

What is Most Important is not speaking Grammar saying Context this and Context that!

Your Context and all that could be Wrong!

Prayerfully read the Word and ask God for Understanding..

The Bible is Powerful! Much more than what we know!

Goshen360:
Young man, the Bible does not mean today what it does not mean when it was first written. All this your insight this and insight that will keep distorting the text and its original meaning

Chosen1984:
You are Neither here nor there!
You seem Confused !
Suit yourself !
I don't have that time.

Goshen360:
I was once like you brother spiritualizing the text. Bible text are not meant to b spiritualized but interpretation contextually and the end result of that interpretation is SPIRITUAL.

If you can't understand this ABC of Bible interpretation then I don't know what else to tell you. It can not mean anything else other than what the author intended it to mean.

husbandsnatcha:
laff some more

deebrain:
First the army said no soldier was there.

Then they said soldiers came there long after the said event of the Lekki shooting.

Then they said they were there and they actually shot, but it was with blank bullets...


May the evil doer never go unpunished.

marod:
The Army never denied being at the toll gate. Please show us where they said no soldier was there.

husbandsnatcha:
... laugh the more

elated177:
Samson thought he was loved by Delilah.

elated177:
1 Cor 6:9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.


No follower of Yahushua the Messiah should ever support or approve of homosexuality.

Chosen1984:
Donnie my Brother! I love your Ways but unfortunately there are things you have to also submit to!

You need to Submit to JESUS as your Lord and Savior! Leave all these your who is white and black Jesus or Isreal. All that are irrelevant..

What any wise Human needs now is not Simpsons predictions! The Bible has it all!

We are in the Last of the Last days..
The Word of GOD be broken!
The Word of GOD cannot lie!

A day is Coming Millions all over the World will Suddenly Vanish to Meet JESUS in the air..

It's not Everything we argue about! We Just need to Submit to GOD'S Word..

I Love you with the Love of GOD Brother but JESUS Loves you Most..

Chosen1984:
My Brother, this your white/black talks is the funniest thing I have heard since I became Saved..

My Brother, that talk has nothing to do with you or me..

Let's leave all these unnecessary Nonessentials talks and Focus on what Matters!
What Matters is JESUS!

Whatever you Claim or say you are , If you Miss or Misrepresent JESUS, you Have Missed it..

Even the Isrealites you talk about Must Submit to JESUS Christ they are Saved in the times of Jacob's Trouble!

sonmvayina:
Satan simply means an adversary..in the last election Atiku was Satan to buhari...only humans have adversary. Not the creator of heaven and earth..There is nothing created that the creator can't control ..to think so is a big insult...

The romans and Greeks created a Satan a dual opposite of the creator as a mockery to Him just as Daniel prophesied in 9:25, They are leading mankind to rebel against their creator..

So sad.

Indaboski007:
When people understand the Bible the better.

We are all here to understand duality. Good and evil are just different poles

Without evil there won't be good.

There is nothing like Satan like someone said it's just an adversary meaning an opposer.

ThePlainTruth:
@MuttleyLaff
You are something else if not how is my analogy using Ifa you mentioned deceitful?

ThePlainTruth:
Ask yourself why the Jews do not use the Bible we have today even though Jesus was a Jew?

ThePlainTruth:
These are the Jewish Scriptures the follow and not the Bible we have today
The Tanakh, largely identical to the Christian Old Testament, is the foundational scripture of Judaism. It consists of the Torah (“Teaching”)—the Five Books of Moses: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy, the Nevi’im (“Prophets”), and the Ketuvim (“Writings”). Judaism’s second central text is the Talmud, which is a record of discussions among leading ancient rabbis on Jewish law, ethics, customs, and history. The Talmud is made up of the Mishnah—the first written compilation of Jewish oral traditions, known as the “Oral Torah”—and the Gemara—commentary on the Mishnah. Most Jewish denominations place equal value on the Tanakh and Talmud, though Reform Judaism downplays the latter. While the Tanakh and Talmud are the principal sources of textual authority, Judaism’s vast compendium of rabbinic literature includes other sources of wisdom and guidance such as midrash, a form of biblical exegesis that incorporates elements of Jewish tradition and legend.
Source: https://berkleycenter.georgetown.edu/essays/jewish-scripture

Blabbermouth:
MuttleyLaff's got clamped by the bot.
How about an extra time in your spiritual cleansing and maintenance hiatus?

ThePlainTruth:
Only the New Testament in the Bible was not in the Scriptures they had during the time of Jesus so we should expect all the scriptures before the New Testament to be in the Bible we have today, which leads to my second question. So where did Jude read or hear the prophecy of Enoch from?

ThePlainTruth:
From your answer are you implying that Jude quoted Enoch for the same reason you gave:  "I often quote from some of the 256 Odu Ifa, I often quote from the Quran, even quote from Shakespeare, of course I quote from et cetera, lmso, but it doesnt mean I quoting from any of them sources, means they are absolute truths. I could be quoting from them as a counter reply, could be quoting from them to debunk the usual rubbish in some of them, lmso, could be quoting them, in course of having a meaningful, matured minds lively discussion et cetera."

Mrcaregiver:
The book of Enoch among many other books were not Included in the bible eventhough it presented important stories and events about the fallen angels, how they taught people about some hidden knowledge etc

I'm just being curious here as to why it wasn't included In the books of the bible
Why was it forbidden?

kalufelix:
The bible was censored for consumer protection...the excluded books aren't particularly forbidden they are just not very suitable for regular users..

Mrcaregiver:
Hmmmm...
Any proof to buttress the point that "they are just not suitable for regular users"...

MuttleyLaff:
"The book of Enoch writing are referenced in the Bible by Peter and Jude not as a form of endorsing it but actually the mentioned parts of the book of Enoch in their letters was done to demystify to stories of angels impregnating human beings myths and stories that were going the rounds in and around that time.

Jude and Peter scolded people believing this story and even charged them of slandering the angels, further saying even fellow angels wouldn't think of slandering angels of what they are accused of.

I too, aside the good book, read the bad and ugly books, but that Book of Enoch, is one nasty piece of work, that you literally do a SMH every now and then, when reading it. No wonder, Paul too, aside Jude and Peter, warned against all these Jewish myths like including this one, doing the rounds back then and still does today."
- Re: Who Said Angels Don't Have Sexual Feelings? by MuttleyLaff: 1:04pm On Feb 16 2019

"... It is true you believe that The Book Of Enoch was written by Enoch, the one who was seven generations from Adam? You want the Book of Enoch to be true so bad but its not and you cant get over that..."
- Re: Witchcraft And Homosexuality Are Like A Set Of Twin by MuttleyLaff: 7:18am On May 02 2019

You'll retch up if you read the book. I honestly didn't want to gate crash or pooh pooh the Book of Enoch party going on here. I was enjoying reading all the five-star ratings given by the various very enthusiastic and/or passionate lovers of the book.

It might not be demonic but it certainly is a disgracefully bad and unpleasant work of fiction, that immediately gives one a feeling of embarrassment and awkwardness when reading the book and others in same category as it is.

It is one of those non-canonical book and rightly so it should be a non-canonical book because it is a falsely attributed book of Enoch. There is no existing, real or genuine book of Enoch. All thats out there are frauds

"Don't pay any attention to any of those senseless Jewish stories and human commands (i.e. shouldn't pay attention to Jewish myths or fables)
These are made up by people who won't obey the truth."
- Titus 1:14

Nobi today yansh, don tay, for fowl back. Senseless Jewish stories, Jewish myths and/or Jewish fables, have been around, and they revolved around fantasies, that goes, as far back or as early as Genesis 6, culminating in slanderous claims with angels roped in and so there, why in Titus 1:14 above, Paul was advising Timothy, to sternly correct believers on these senseless Jewish stories, Jewish myths and/or Jewish fables.

Jude, parroting Peter, mentioning a section of the book of Enoch at verse 14, wasn't as a form of endorsement, but rather he was debunking a myth and at same time, lambasting those who believe the senseless Jewish stories, Jewish myths and/or Jewish fables. Read Jude contextually to get a proper handle of this and make sure you read Jude contextually without the mistranslated parts.

"It is because you are a confirmed and bonafide bible illiterate, you are way behind and dont measure up to 2 Timothy 2:15 in any shape or form, is why you think I am full of inconsistencies. If you are asked to state what and where I am alledged to be inconsistent, you will begin to stammer and be chomping teeth

You avoid answering questions because you know you will be pinned down and get being exposed. It is as simple as that. You are nothing than a paper tiger, huffing and puffing. I have and easily eat people like you with breakfast

Would you believe it that this guy believes that The Book Of Enoch was written by Enoch, the one who was seven generations from Adam? You want the Book of Enoch to be true so bad but its not and you cant get over that, so refuse to answer the question and resort to introducing some unrelated, unconnected and totally different homosexuality subject

Do you also believe in the Infancy Gospel of Thomas too? Another Gnostic book? I was just about bringing the bird out of the pocket and havent even started proper questioning you about the Book of Enoch before you developed cold feet, cat got your tongue and so clamping up.
- Re: Witchcraft And Homosexuality Are Like A Set Of Twin. by MuttleyLaff: 9:51pm On Apr 28 2019

[color=#000000]Let me remind you, of one of the many fascinating and interesting narratives, that you read in the Book of Enoch[/color]

"¹And after some days my son Methuselah took a wife for his son Lamech, and she became pregnant by him and bore a son.
². And his body was white as snow and red as the blooming of a rose, and the hair of his head and his long locks were white as wool, and his eyes beautiful. And when he opened his eyes, he lighted up the whole house like the sun, and the whole house was very bright.
³. And thereupon he arose in the hands of the midwife, opened his mouth, and conversed with the Lord of righteousness.
⁴. And his father Lamech was afraid of him and fled, and came to his father Methuselah.
⁵. And he said unto him: 'I have begotten a strange son, diverse from and unlike man, and resembling the sons of the God of heaven; and his nature is different and he is not like us, and his eyes are as the rays of the sun, and his countenance is glorious.
⁶. And it seems to me that he is not sprung from me but from the angels, and I fear that in his days a wonder may be wrought on the earth.
⁷. And now, my father, I am here to petition thee and implore thee that thou mayest go to Enoch, our father, and learn from him the truth, for his dwelling-place is amongst the angels.'
⁸. And when Methuselah heard the words of his son, he came to me to the ends of the earth; for he had heard that I was there, and he cried aloud, and I heard his voice and I came to him. And 1 said unto him: 'Behold, here am I, my son, wherefore hast thou come to me?'
⁹. And he answered and said: 'Because of a great cause of anxiety have I come to thee, and because of a disturbing vision have I approached.
¹⁰. And now, my father, hear me: unto Lamech my son there hath been born a son, the like of whom there is none, and his nature is not like man's nature, and the colour of his body is whiter than snow and redder than the bloom of a rose, and the hair of his head is whiter than white wool, and his eyes are like the rays of the sun, and he opened his eyes and thereupon lighted up the whole house.
¹¹. And he arose in the hands of the midwife, and opened his mouth and blessed the Lord of heaven.
^12. And his father Lamech became afraid and fled to me, and did not believe that he was sprung from him, but that he was in the likeness of the angels of heaven; and behold I have come to thee that thou mayest make known to me the truth.'
¹³. And I, Enoch, answered and said unto him: 'The Lord will do a new thing on the earth, and this I have already seen in a vision, and make known to thee that in the generation of my father Jared some of the angels of heaven transgressed the word of the Lord.
¹⁴. And behold they commit sin and transgress the law, and have united themselves with women and commit sin with them, and have married some of them, and have begot children by them.
¹⁵. Yea, there shall come a great destruction over the whole earth, and there shall be a deluge and a great destruction for one year.
¹⁶. And this son who has been born unto you shall be left on the earth, and his three children shall be saved with him: when all mankind that are on the earth shall die [he and his sons shall be saved].
¹⁷. And they shall produce on the earth giants not according to the spirit, but according to the flesh, and there shall be a great punishment on the earth, and the earth shall be cleansed from all impurity.
¹⁸. And now make known to thy son Lamech that he who has been born is in truth his son, and call his name Noah; for he shall be left to you, and he and his sons shall be saved from the destruction, which shall come upon the earth on account of all the sin and all the unrighteousness, which shall be consummated on the earth in his days.
¹⁹. And after that there shall be still more unrighteousness than that which was first consummated on the earth; for I know the mysteries of the holy ones; for He, the Lord, has showed me and informed me, and I have read (them) in the heavenly tablets.
- Book of Enoch 106:1-19"
- Re: Witchcraft And Homosexuality Are Like A Set Of Twin. by MuttleyLaff: 9:51pm On Apr 28 2019

The book of Enoch and other variants of it, are best flushed down the toilet, where they belong. If you start, you won't last five minutes into reading the book, before you'll shove it away, from finding the content, being ludicrous and a waste of even idle time.

ThePlainTruth:
@Dtruthspeaker
You should ask yourself these questions:

1. Which Scriptures did Jesus read from was it the Bible we have today which have had some books removed just within 200 years?
2. Jude quoted Enoch: (Jude 14-15) "It was also about these men that Enoch, in the seventh generation from Adam, prophesied, saying, “Behold, the Lord came with many thousands of His holy ones, 15 to execute judgment upon all." Where did Jude read or hear this prophesy of Enoch from?

MuttleyLaff:
I often quote from some of the 256 Odu Ifa, I often quote from the Quran, even quote from Shakespeare, of course I quote from et cetera, lmso, but it doesnt mean I quoting from any of them sources, means they are absolute truths. I could be quoting from them as a counter reply, could be quoting from them to debunk the usual rubbish in some of them, lmso, could be quoting them, in course of having a meaningful, matured minds lively discussion et cetera.

ThePlainTruth:
@MuttleyLaff
Please explain how your answer below relates to my questions which relates directly to the Bible.

ThePlainTruth:
@Dtruthspeaker
You should ask yourself these questions:

1. Which Bible did Jesus read from was it from the Bible we have today which have had some books removed just within 200 years?

ThePlainTruth:
2. Jude quoted Enoch: (Jude 14-15) "It was also about these men that Enoch, in the seventh generation from Adam, prophesied, saying, “Behold, the Lord came with many thousands of His holy ones, 15 to execute judgment upon all." Where did Jude read or hear this prophesy of Enoch from

ThePlainTruth:
[s]@MuttleyLaff
You need to humble yourself and learn first before you can ask sensible questions, because as it stands now your mind has been too conditioned and you've been brainwashed by some of the children's stories you have been reading in the Bible.[/s]

ThePlainTruth:
@MuttleyLaff
You don't know the scriptures except the children's stories you have been reading that have conditioned your mind to make you feel you know all.

ThePlainTruth:
Anyway watch this space for more adult scriptures that if GOD willing will set your conditioned mind free.

CodeTemplar:
One thing is sure. They belong to a party that singles out Christianity out of all the 6000 religious options for special persecution.

MuttleyLaff:
If only more christians properly read their bibles there'd be less christians, and its true that remark

MuttleyLaff:
I feel no shame nor frustration in keep saying that, if only more christians read their bibles there'd be less christians even lesser christian pastors. KMFT. Mtcheew.

paxonel:
The bitter lesson to Christians.
Don't be in support of any man because he is a Christian, if he is a good man that should be enough reason to support him whether he is Christian or not.

Golan007:
But they knew Trump was no christian.

MuttleyLaff:
If only more christians properly read their bibles there'd be less christians, and its true that remark

MuttleyLaff:
I feel no shame nor frustration in keep saying that, if only more christians read their bibles there'd be less christians even lesser christian pastors. KMFT. Mtcheew.

Righteousness89:
This Piece is worth listening to for all..
It's a less than 6 Minutes video
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Dtruthspeaker:
I understand your view and it is not my intention to disparage anyone but he, with his little knowledge, thought it a valid weapon, which it is for those who themselves do not know much, but not against me, for it only compells me to destroy it as a whole, for the purposes of these argument, at this particular time, as you have done above, in stating the Twin of the Law of The Rabbis;

"Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees."
- Mathew 16:6