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Image123:
Hehehehe Muttley my brother, see as my other brother just renamed you for here.

I expected the name calling, but having said that, his rudeness is an outright betrayal of his weak imitation show of having well grounded biblical intellect. He's trying so hard to discredit me but doesn't know that its not going to work because I am blessed

Image123:
i don laugh tire, which one be muttleylaff the degenerate?

They say that arguing Ad Hominem is as low as you can go. I rather be called degenerate and labelled a liar while telling the truth than pretend to tell the truth while propagating and telling a lie

Image123:
It's this your association with gays oh. It is well

When wood is chopped, wood chips will fly, so yeah, it is my association and standing with two God believing, that have accepted Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, consenting adults, enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but displaying the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to happen from any other children of God to do.

You do not need the Bible to justify love of two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, who love each other, enjoy each other’s company, are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other, and all that and more, sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them, but no better tool has been invented to justify hate of two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, who love each other, enjoy each other’s company, are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other, and all that and more, sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them. What a travesty of justice and fair-mindedness (i.e. Isaiah 1:17, Matthew 23:23b et cetera)

tobechi74:
Girls  who enjoy highly competitive games with a desire to win also increases their aggression (masculinity). We tag such women names like Tomboy. They are ladies with highly developed masculine side and poorly developed feminine side.. Such masculine girls are attracted to  the beta guys. If a man is more masculine in nature,he will be attracted to a very feminine woman who will compliment his energy. Balance men prefer neutral women.. Masculine girls at attracted to a feminine guy or sisi or beta guy . Such guys are few as society teaches guys to wear the Alpha mask. She can only find solace among her fellow feminine women. This is the origin of homosexuality- . Heterosexual are no different from homosexual as both seek balance .

Society has widened this energy balance over the years. Civilisation is bring closing the gap. Homosexual are closer to achieving balance compared to heterosexual. Yet, Homosexuals feel guilty for not complying with society expectation. . There is nothing wrong with homosexuality, for it IS what is. However, we need to bear in mind that society at this time is traumatized due to so many centurie conditioned to comply with that. DO we want to fit in? Until WHEN? We need to learn to Love who we are, while allowing others to be what they want to be. Acceptance is the way of Life.

https://tobechispeaks./2020/09/23/sexual-imbalance/

In the ecosystem, homosexuality, naturally exists in over 450 species, while homophobia is found in only one. Thankfully the behaviour of plants and animals have not deteriorated over the years like the behaviour of this peculiar specie that homophobia is found only in.

Image123:
i will also give you another theory. The rise in homosexuality is proportional to the wearing of same clothing by the two genders. It eroded the demarcation of the sexes. You love the girl even as she looks like a man, until you love the man anyway. That's the graph devil plotted for the human race to follow today, it's working very well.

God does not have any problem with two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving, lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour. Neither does God have any problem with the wearing of same clothing by the two genders

What was and is an anathema to God is same sex relationship and any case of wearing of same clothing by the two gender, that has associations with sexual promiscuity, having multiple sexual partners, orgastic temple rites, temple prostitutions, infidelity, sexual sacrifices with the belief that having sex with qadesh (i.e. in Biblical times, qadesh are men whose quality of life has degenerated to the point of being attached to certain temples, as temple male prostitutes engaging in sexual activity thats paid for) brings about divine favour, blessings and/or a new and higher level of spirituality, sexual fertility rites et cetera.

Monogamy, the habit of having only one partner at a time and the practice/state of having a sexual relationship with only that one partner, is not a rule, applied to only heterosexuals alone.

Image123 we've walked through this garden path before. Remember when I asked you to please list six or seven pet peeves of God, as banded together in a verse or two verses from the Bible and you biblically clever enough, good sport that you are correctly quoted in its entirety Proverbs 6:16-19, hmm, yeah?

Now, Proverbs 6:16-19, says there are six things God/Yahweh hates, seven that He detests or are abominations to Him, namely:
1/ A proud look (i.e. having an inordinately high opinion of oneself, being stuck-up, arrogant, haughty or full of self-pride)
2/ A lying tongue (i.e. telling lies, posting unsubstantiated accusation(s) against fellow posters)
3/ Hands that shed innocent blood (i.e. the unjustified taking of life, typing away with hands on the keyboard doing character assassination)
4/ A heart that devises wicked schemes (i.e. creating increasing number of threads filled with wicked thoughts and biased content)
5/ Feet that run swiftly to evil (i.e. feet eager to run to evil in terms of being swift in running to create mischief threads)
6/ A false witness who speaks lies (i.e. a dishonest witness spitting out lies, saying things that aren't in the bible originally or contextually)
7/ One who stirs up trouble among brothers (i.e. one who spreads strife among brothers)

Proverbs, is biblically received and accepted to be a book of God-inspired instruction, but Image123 would you agree and accept that there is no mention of homosexuality in Proverbs 6:16-19's God's list of hates, detestable or abominations. How two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, who love each other, enjoy each other’s company, are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other, and all that and more, sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them, can be seen to be evil, unkind, uncaring, unfaithful, disloyal, degenerate, dangerous, threatening, frightening, disturbing et cetera to each other, anybody or anyone beats me.

I am quite sure that Isaiah 61:1 does NOT say: "The Spirit of the LORD God has taken control of Me! The LORD has chosen and sent Me to tell the oppressed the good news, unless they are homosexuals, to heal the brokenhearted, and to announce freedom for prisoners and captives, unless they are homosexuals"

Do you also remember, I shared with you that, though not wanting to drag Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:26-27, 1 Corinthians 6:9, 1 Timothy 1:10 and/or Revelation 21:8 into all this, another set of misunderstood couple of verses, lmso, Deuteronomy 22:5, has a similar theme with those verses with men dressed as women and women dressed as men, establishing themselves as sacred qadesh (i.e. male cult temple prostitutes/servants) and qedesha (i.e. female cult temple prostitutes/servants), now God didnt want the Israelites importing and mirroring the Canaanites' idolatry cross dressing prostitution practice to desecrate the worship and reverence of God with this distasteful ritual impurity idolatry practice.

Deuteronomy 4:2 states: "You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor take from it; that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you", while Deuteronomy 12:32 states: "What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it" now it might interest you that, if your Bible has the word homosexual in it, then it is a lie from the pit of Hell, because to start with, the original Bible texts/verses does not include the word homosexual in them.

From the day that God first inspired man to write down his Holy Word, and up until 1954, there was no published European Bible translations that had the word homosexual because translators were faithful to the original text. However, tragically, as from 1954, English translators and with increasing frequency, began taking liberties of inserting invented words that where originally absent in the Bible and thus making the Bible says things it does not say and never said. This is the travesty of the true spirit of 2 Timothy 2:15 and good/correct scholarship. Time is not an ally for to enough properly and in depth belabour this insensitivity, impropriety, wrongdoing and misconduct

Having sex with someone, you are not mutually attracted to is unnatural, but two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, who love each other, enjoy each other’s company, are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other are having consented sex with each other because they are naturally attracted to each other due to their homosexuality.

God is married to you, married to your wife, married to your grandpa, married to your grandma, married to your daughters, married to your sons, married to me, married to my missus, married to my entire family, married to et cetera. The point being made here, is that God's concept of marriage, is not hinged on gender, lmso. We each and all, according to Genesis 1:26-28, are as human beings (i.e. man, men and women, gay or not gay) made in the image of God (i.e. Elohim or the Godhead) and after the likeness of God (i.e. Elohim or the Godhead)

elated177 likes to portray himself as an unapologetic adherent of the Law, "The Ten Commandments" Now these can be found in Exodus 20:1-17. and there is no mention of anything in the commandments listed in Exodus 20:1-17 that can be interpreted as describing it a sin of two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, who love each other, enjoy each other’s company, are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other, and all that and more, sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them.

OK, let's go New Testament, when at Luke 23:42-43, the thief on Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour's right hand side remarked saying: "Jesus, remember me when You come into Your kingdom!” I dont read Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ replying back to the thief with, "Truly I say, today you will be with me in paradise, unless, of course, you are a homosexual".

When the disciples asked Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ

At John 9:1-3, when Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ was passing by, He saw a man blind from birth, and His disciples asked Him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?". Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ answered, “Neither this man nor his parents sinned, but this happened so that the works of God would be displayed in him" so are God believing, two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, who love each other, enjoy each other’s company, are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other, and all that and more, sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them, happened so that the works of God and manifestation of the fruit of the Spirit would be displayed in them.

Image123, Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, in John 6:37, says: "Everyone the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will never drive away" but the unsavoury antics of elated177, his toxic threads and his stern anger filled facial expression, lmso, is enough to drive away, God believing, two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, who love each other, enjoy each other’s company, are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other, and all that and more, sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them.

Are you Image123 or elated177 at all familiar with this famous athlete person in the name of Mokgadi Caster Semenya, hmmm? I wouldnt think Image123 would since he never before knew who Denrele or Bobrisky are, lmso. OK, how about this. What evil befell the Republic of Ireland for the 3-year period that Leo Varadkar was their Taoiseach or prime minister? (i.e. head of state from 14th June 2017 to 27th June 2020)

I will pause here for now, lmso, so y'all can catch and have a breather.

elated177:
You never mentioned me? Commenting on a thread openned by me means what exactly?

It always has to be about you, isn't it. Me, me, me and me, lmso, smh. It just has to all be about no one else, nobody else but you. I sure hope having thread(s) opened by you translates into money enough to buy you at the very least a congo/kongo of garri, lmso. KMFT.

Fyi, I didnt mention you because you are an inconsequential nonentity, who hasn't the stature nor calibre of interlocutors I aimed at and expected replies or responses from.

elated177:
Go and propagate this your message on your own thread. What is stopping you?

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Proverbs 28:1, lmso
I have my eyes set on you and so forced to give you a close marking, especially since you've chosen not to follow God's Word in its original context, besides I never mentioned you but then not a fool’s lips walk into a fight and his mouth invites a beating and calls for blows (i.e. Proverbs 18:6)

haddeylium:
Did you see the part I said you should ignore?
I misinterpreted what you said . ' I thought you meant Jesus doesn't have the same nature as his Father'..I mistaken!

The Nature of Jehovah is Spirit!
Jesus too is in God's Form(nature).
Jehovah made the Angels Spirit too
The first resurrected ones too will have a share in this divine nature and be like Jesus in is spirit Form!
All these ones have one thing in common...NATURE!

But in Authority....only Jehovah is Almighty

We share the same nature with Buhari..But, when it comes to superior Authority in Nigeria...Only Buhari is Almighty (President)

Thanks for your time

Did you not see how I posted: Sorry, a bit late, et cetera, ni, hmm?

PMB is almight in his sphere of influence, he is not almighty in our household nor in any shape of form in our relationship with God.

Whatever measly authority PMB has comes from God

Just before the proverbial spanner was thrown into the works, Man, by default, was meant to, "work in progress" style, have the nature of God.

With the help of the Comforter, we are practice gradually having the nature of God (i.e. the manifestation of the fruit of the Holy Spirit)

haddeylium:
Oh, Mutteylaff...Ignore this
I thought you mean otherwise!

The resurected ones with heavenly hope will share in this divine nature too tho

Sorry Boss, a bit late, as I had already responded before seeing this warning, but we still are complementing each other anyway

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haddeylium:
Jesus too was in God's form [Philippians 2:5-8]. Made alive back to spirit after his earthly course (1 pet 3:18), He became invisible again (Timothy 6:14-16)

"⁷Jesus replied,
“It is not for you to know times or seasons that the Father has fixed by His own authority.
⁸But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes upon you, and you will be My witnesses in Jerusalem,
and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.
⁹After He had said this, they watched as He was taken up, and a cloud hid Him from their sight."
- Acts 1:7-8

PS: As regards your above comment. Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ' body is its glorified body state, is still very much alive and visible, then 1 Timothy 6:14-16, at 1 Timothy 6:14 is referring to Yahweh, while 1 Timothy 6:15 it is Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ who is being referred to to there and then at 1 Timothy 6:16, back again, is referring to Yahweh.

Now because Yahweh is invisible, and because no one has seen or can see Yahweh, then the only possible way and available means to see Yahweh, is through Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ. Once you see Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, you have seen God/Yahweh

It is Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ you'll be seeing sitting on the throne, since He is visible and Yahweh/God isn't visible.

haddeylium:
To stay on the discuss, I'll only respond to the last

Nature means the form, the basic makeup or constitution of something

God nature is Spirit (not physical)- meaning it's invisible and sort!

I doubt anyone is in dispute with you that "God nature is Spirit (not physical)- meaning it's invisible and sort!" sic

haddeylium:
Jesus too was in God's form [Philippians 2:5-8]. Made alive back to spirit after his earthly course (1 pet 3:18), He became invisible again (Timothy 6:14-16)

"²⁶Then God (i.e. Elohim or the Godhead) said, “Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness, to rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it.”
²⁷So God (i.e. Elohim or the Godhead) created man in His own image; in the image of God (i.e. Elohim or the Godhead) He created him; male and female He created them.
²⁸God (i.e. Elohim or the Godhead) blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and every creature that crawls upon the earth.”"
- Genesis 1:26-28

I am certain that if you with eagle eyes had read Genesis 1:26-28, you would have spotted that though God (i.e. Elohim or the Godhead) is incorporeal, there exists a way of how God is, how God is to be seen as, God is to be perceived, understood, realised, known as, known for, known to be et cetera, hence why God announced to make human beings (i.e. man) in the image of and after the likeness of God (i.e. Elohim or the Godhead)

The God series of project(s) started with an image of God created, that is physically instant, while the likeness, is continuum (i.e. progressively continuous)

What are the nature of God. To a list a few, they will be:
Creator, Mobility/Movement, Perception, Protector, Provider, Sustainer, Defender, Justice minded, Intelligence, Ability, Capability, Innovator, Developer, Architect, Influential/Influence, Authority, Command, Control, Problem Solver, Solution Provider, Epitome of Love or Love Personified, Compassion, Loyalty, Faithfulness, Goodness et cetera

Dont place any limitations, whatsoever, on the LORD, (i.e. Yahweh) our God (i.e. Elohim or the Godhead), the LORD (i.e. Yahweh) is one (i.e. Deuteronomy 6:4 or Mark 12:29).

haddeylium:
The Nature of a Nature and bike is the samething!- Made of Metal!
But by Superiority/Authority- The Aeroplane is the highest
Just focus on the what I intended to pass with that illustration

"³Don’t be selfish; don’t try to impress others.
Be humble, thinking of others as better than yourselves.
⁴Don’t look out only for your own interests, but take an interest in others, too.
⁵You must have the same attitude that Christ Jesus had.
⁶Though he was God, He did not think of equality with God as something to cling to.
⁷Instead, He gave up his divine privileges; He took the humble position of a slave
and was born as a human being. When He appeared in human form,
⁸He humbled himself in obedience to God and died a criminal’s death on a cross.
⁹Therefore, God elevated Him to the place of highest honor
and gave Him the name above all other names,
¹⁰that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
¹¹and every tongue declare that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
- Philippians 2:3-11

Please dont make a habit of trying to use a natural to absolutely explain away anything of the supernatural, especially when tackling anything like in the league of God, lmso.

The nature of God, though incorporeal is manifested as a physical representation with the creation of human beings made in the form of male and female. Earthly sanctuary, is a mere copy/shadow of whats in the heavenly (i.e. Hebrews 8:5)

Emusan:
Another one

Jesus was just BORN BY SPIRIT....Barristter07 2020

What then is to be BORN OF SPIRIT?

Olodo....of the century!

Jesus statement to Nicodemus was you must be BORN AGAIN which Nicodemus presume to be ENTERING WOMB the second time which Jesus then clarified that, No! You must be born of spirit and water.

So being born of spirit means the Birth is through the Agent of the Holy Spirit.

Now, you agreed Jesus was BORN BY SPIRIT....

So what does it mean to be BORN OF SPIRT?

So you agree I'm a student of the Bible.

Just as @Blabbermouth said, if you don't understand something, you ask!

Born OF FLESH means we are a PRODUCT of FLESH

That's the point.

Born of Spirit means we're a product of spirit at the New Birth.

So ALL JEHOVAH WITNESS are not FAITHFUL but only those who will reign with Christ are faithful, that's nice.

This brings us back to my point.

At what point were they Born of Spirit?
1. During their life on earth
2. After they died

See this dubious entity....

So BORN OF SPIRIT "is a NEW KIND OF BIRTH"

can you see how he finally agreed with my initial point that BORN OF SPIRIT IS SPIRIT is a NEW BIRTH every believers must under go before reigning with Christ.

So how can a NEW birth be suddenly change to RESURRECTED to A SPIRIT BEING? is where you need to explain.

Yes it is, but you must first tell us WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE BORN OF SPIRIT.

Barristter07:
Without a Physical woman.

In your deluded mind, when a person is Born of Spirit, they become an human Baby ?

It means adoption as God's Spirit son.

New birth as brand new baby ? Idiot

1Pet 1:3,4

"new birth into a living HOPE through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade. This inheritance is kept in heaven for you, "

A person knows they have been adopted as A Spirit son while they are on Earth just as Peter knows, But the product as a Spirit person is an HOPE. One that happen at their ressurection .

Understand the meaning of hope and your ignorance will be cured.

"¹Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a leader of the Jews.
²He came to Jesus at night and said, “Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the signs You are doing if God were not with him.”
³Jesus replied, “Truly, truly, I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.
⁴“How can a man be born when he is old?” Nicodemus asked. “Can he enter his mother’s womb a second time to be born?
⁵Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit.
⁶Flesh is born of flesh, but spirit is born of the Spirit.
⁷Do not be amazed that I said, ‘You must be born again.
⁸The wind blows where it wishes. You hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.
⁹“How can this be? Nicodemus asked.
¹⁰“You are Israel’s teacher, said Jesus, “and you do not understand these things?
¹¹Truly, truly, I tell you, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, and yet you people do not accept our testimony.
¹²If I have told you about earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you about heavenly things? ”
- John 3:1-12

Gentlemen, brother and learned friend other brother, enough of the tirade of ping pong abuses nah.

This issue of born again wasn't even a public affair consumption thing. It only came to the fore because Nicodemus, a respected teacher of Israel and highly placed member of the Sanhedrin clandestinely and under the cover of darkness, at John 3:1-4, coming from his many observations, went to a meeting with Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, to make inquiries, so, to get to know and get to know more.

Apparently, it's a given, that except one is born again, one cannot see the demonstrations of the move and/or power of God to the point of acknowledging it and attributing them to God, so is why Jesus in John 3:3, confirmed and doubly affirmed, that all what Nicodemus admitted to in John 3:2, is not possible except such person is born from on high (i.e. born again)

Now, here's a cogent and concise point, detractors, scoffers, mockers, cynics, skeptics et cetera will deny the power of God in play and even worse because they aren't born again will regard what they observed happening before their eyes, as being caused by Beelzebub et cetera

Nicodemus slipped on the "born again" banana skin and struggled to grasp the import, because he carnally minded was thinking of a second time around physical birth. While still thinking, Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, stepped up a higher gear, switching from "see the kingdom of God" and going to "enter the kingdom of God" lmso, this befuddled Nicodemus the more, that made Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, literally at John 3:9-10, say in a paraphrased manner:
"C'mon, My guy, Nicodemus, how come you a big man Israel Bible teacher dont already know all these Bible 101 kindergarten things nah, Biko, no fall My Hand jor"

One of the first instalments of having the luxury of being born again is the capacity to acknowledge, give admission, confession, acceptance of observing, seeing, experiencing the move and power of God. that is exactly what and all Nicodemus did on that night meeting with Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ

This first instalment is not the be al end all, just as our learned brother Barristter07 piggybacked on 1 Peter 1:3-4, that states we born-again or "born from on high", with additionally instalments in terms of hope, expectations, confidence, trust et cetera. All these are guaranteed on the basis, truth and fact that God died for us or in our place, in the person of Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ and resurrected from death, hence paid the cost or price of sin and defeated death.

haddeylium:
You sha like it when Jw spoon-feed you

In Nature, Jehovah and the Angels are the same (Spirit)
But in Authority, Only Jehovah is Almighty!

Do you copy?

I copy copy you ojaare.

livingchrist:
this is funny! So if Jehovah and Angels are same Spirit then by nature Jehovah is an angelic creature.

That means Jehovah is not the only true God

Satan has duped you people

1/ What does the word angel (i.e. angelic) in its purest form, mean?
2/ What fundamentally is an angel (i.e. malakh in Hebrew or angelos in Greek)?
3/ Are angels, an exclusive celestial beings affair thing or there also exist, terrestrial being angels too (i.e. human being angels)?
4/ Who really and particularly, is the "The angel of the LORD"?
5/ What is the identity of "The angel of the LORD"?

haddeylium:
Do Jesus have God's nature in heaven or not?

Jesus does have God's nature in heaven and even elsewhere

Emusan:
Wasn't human Jesus BORN OF SPIRIT? Does it make human Jesus to be spirit being on earth?

If God is a spirit and EVERYONE who believes Jesus is CHRIST is born of God. Are they not supposed to be a spirit being?

Do you believe Jesus is the Christ?

"¹⁵“But what about you?” Jesus asked. “Who do you say I am?”
¹⁶Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.
¹⁷Jesus replied,
“Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah!
For this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by My Father in heaven."
- Matthew 16:15-17

Every human being essentially is a spirit being activated in a soul, housed/tabernacled in a human being flesh body, but at the moment, having and living a earth experience in a divinely ordained legal and legitimate capacity

Yahshua Ha Mashiasch, aka Jesus Christ, is Jesus, with a meaning of, God/Yahweh saves, while Christ, has the meaning of, the Anointed One (i.e. the One who is anointed to execute GodYahweh's salvation plan) so affirmative, Jesus, is the Christ. He is the Messiah

Jozzy4:
Jesus wasn't born of Spirit. Jesus was born by spirit and a woman .

This birth has nothing to do with a woman.

"³⁰So the angel told her, “Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God.
³¹Behold, you will conceive and give birth to a son, and you are to give Him the name Jesus.
- Luke 1:30-31

The whole plan of salvation, redemption and reconciliation would have been in jeopardy and a showstopper, without the co-operation of the woman as the woman is a necessary factor in the QED computation of the "plan of salvation, redemption and reconciliation" equation. If Mary had declined or refused to co-operate, God simply would have moved on to the next willing and available woman because the protoevangelium plan of salvation, redemption and reconciliation show, according to Genesis 3:15, MUST go on.

Emusan:
OK Jesus was BORN BY SPIRIT and A WOMAN....Jozzy4 2020

Then what does it mean to be BORN OF SPIRIT?

There are two great days in a person's life. The day you are physically born and the day you are born again (i.e. born of spirit or born from on high above)

As an already fallen from grace human being, when you're born again, your DNA radically changes. You begin to, like Nicodemus, see, and soon afterwards, inquisitively step forward, albeit in the middle of the night, just as like Nicodemus did, under the cover of secrecy, to enquire and learn about all what you've been observing, and equally similarly, begin to do like how Nicodemus, was led, to confess with his own mouth that the demonstrations of divine power he's witnessed, seen and/or heard about, can only mean they come from God et cetera. The ability, to begin, unravelling and understanding the mysteries of God is another payload of luxury or dividend for being born again.

Out of the three, which biblically speaking is/are eternal
A - Love
B - Relationship
C - Marriage

elated177:
One of my responses from 19 months ago:

Nothing will change.

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elated177:
Why do you find difficult to understand and respect other people's views and opinions?

I find it difficult to understand views and opinions, because a lion doesnt concern itself with the opinion of a sheeple, I dont lose sleep over them and also ecause you confuse the truth with the opinion of the majority. Dont you know, people have no right to express an opinion until they know all of the answers. You should try being informed instead of just opinionated. Opinion oftten breeds ignorance. Even if I respect views and opinions, how do you possibly expect me to take them seriously, especially when your opinion isnt reality

elated177:
You like and enjoy same relationship, have at it. Just desist from twisting and hammering the Scriptures to support it or furnish some justification for it. There is none. The Creator of heaven and earth calls it an abomination

Odiegwu! SMH. This a big fat lie now.
1/ When did He call it abomination?
2/ Where did He call it abomination?
3/ What did He call abomination?
4/ Why did He call what He called abomination abomination?

elated177:
and that is it...finito...okwu agwu la...end of the matter...no room for appeal. Why do you find this hard to understand?

Content is king, but context is king-maker elated177. I am quite sure you dont understand that comment.

elated177:
I have already made my views on homosexuality known to you numerous times on this forum. I have used the Scriptures of our Father in heaven to show you how abominable it is in his sight. There is nothing new to add. There is nothing to remove from what I have said concerning the detestable act called homosexuality.

This is all because you havent got the facts right. Nothing is more damaging to a new truth than an old error.

elated177:
The summary of question which you have asked do many times is this:

What is wrong with two people of the same sex who are engaged in a consensual and committed sexual relationship with each other?

I will give you the same reply I gave you the other time.

So many things are wrong with it:

---it brings about defilement.
---it corrupts the soul and body of the individual.
---it contaminates families.
---it pollutes the society.
---it opens doors to more evil spirits into the world.
---it empowers the manifestation of demons. This in turn leads to all forms of wickedness. Just take a good, long, hard look at our society and tell yourself that it is not filled with wickedness.

I love reading and watch you lie, like a cheap Persia rug when I know the truth. So all these will happen if was your mom, dad, brother(s), sister(s), uncle(s), aunt(s), nephew(s), niece(s), cousin(s) kid(s) or grandkid(s) that are part of a two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, who love each other, enjoy each other’s company, are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other, and all that and more, sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them huh?

elated177:
You see, MuttleyLaff, some ten, fifteen, twenty years ago, the society was not wicked as it now. Also, homosexuality was not as common as it is now. As the second coming of the Yahushua the Messiah draws nearer, homosexuality will become more common, more countries will either legalize or decriminalize it and those who refuse will be persecuted severely. As acceptance of homosexuality increases, other forms of wickedness will increase with it. Remember that the demons are responsible for the wickedness.

For you to say homosexuality was not as common as it is now, means you have no idea about gay sex as the fertility rites, know not about the male cult prostitutes that were part of Canaanite Ashtoreth pagan worship and/or the temple prostitutes Cybele pagan worship with orgiastic rites, generally done in both Old Testament and New Testatment Biblical times respectively. SMH.

Nothing is as dangerous as an ignorant believer, especially one like you that keeps displaying colossal ignorance(s). No one is entitled to being and remaining ignorant. You are not entitled to your opinion of lies. You are entitled to being informed

elated177:
Can you not see what the Scriptures below are saying? They are plain, simple and direct for you to understand. No special interpretation required.

Isaiah 24:5 The earth is defiled by its people; they have disobeyed the laws, violated the statutes and broken the everlasting covenant.

The earth will become so defiled that the only solution will be its destruction.

Isaiah 24:1-3 See, YHVH is going to lay waste the earth and devastate it; he will ruin its face and scatter its inhabitants - it will be the same for priest as for people, for the master as for his servant, for seller as for buyer, for borrower as for lender, for debtor as for creditor. The earth will be completely laid waste and totally plundered. YHVH has spoken this word.

So to you, it's two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, who love each other, enjoy each other’s company, are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other, and all that and more, sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them, are defiling the earth, huh?

elated177:
So, dude, forget sentiments. Homosexuality, no matter the form, or shame or pattern, is evil and wrong in so many ways.

What exactly is the evil and wrong in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, who love each other, enjoy each other’s company, are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other, and all that and more, sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them, are defiling the earth, huh elated177?

elated177:
Muttleylaff, enjoy your homosexuality. We no dey fight o. Scripturally, it is disgusting, abominable and detestable. That is my stand.

Do you understand who an animal activist is? Do you understand what an animal activist does, huh? Do you know why animal activists, do all what they do, huh. OK, now replace animal activist with homosexuality activist, that you so much enjoy calling me as.

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As seen above, was my replies to your "One of my responses from 19 months ago"

I will improve on "Nothing will change" with "Nothing has changed" because of your stiff-necked pride and modus operandi random quoting scripture without the benefit of any meaningful, matured mind, valid and well grounded biblical discourse taking place.

elated177:
For the umpteenth time, muttleylaff the degenerate, I, elated177, will not discuss the set-apart Scriptures with you. There is no way on Yahveh's earth that I will say anything different from what I have consistently said from December 2018 to now.

You and I go way back. Of course, you are my customer mi daadaa ni.

elated177:
Again, you, muttleylaff, and I, elated177, do not worship the same God. Observe:

Your god/goddess approves of homosexuality, my God, my Father in heaven, detests homosexuality.

Muttleylaff, you god is a god of homosexuality; my God is not a God of homosexuality.

Muttleylaff, your god says a man can marry his fellow man; my God says such is unambiguously detestable, totally abominable and absolutely vile.

Muttleylaff, your god says a man can stick it into anywhere he likes - mouth, anus, vagina, etc. My God says a man can only stick it into his wife's vagina and nowhere else.

Just as the day is clearly different from the night, so is my God different from your god.

Can you not see that the spirit in you, muttleylaff, is totally and completely different from the Spirit in me, elated177? Kai! Na wa o! O dikwa egwu o!

"Jesus replied,
“Your mistake is that you don’t know the Scriptures, and you don’t know the power of God.
(i.e. You do err, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God)"
- Matthew 22:29

You are a shameless liar, liar, pants on fire biblically naive misled individual because:
1/ There is nowhere in scripture of God saying He detests two God believing, that have accepted Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, consenting adults, enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but displaying the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to happen from any other children of God to do.
2/ There is nowhere in scripture of God saying He is not a God of two God believing, that have accepted Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, consenting adults, enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but displaying the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to happen from any other children of God to do.
3/ There is nowhere in scripture of God saying a man cant have a faithful committed till death do part romantic relationship with a fellow man, neither is there anywhere in scripture saying God finds such relationship unambiguously detestable, totally abominable and absolutely vile. Scripture in many places explicitly states the type of homosexuality that to God is unambiguously detestable, totally abominable and absolutely vile. Scripture actually has never condemned God believing, that have accepted Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, consenting adults, enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but displaying the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to happen from any other children of God to do.
4/ There is nowhere in scripture of God saying a man can't stick it into anywhere he likes - mouth, anus, vagina, etc, nor does God says a man can only stick it into his wife's vagina and nowhere else. You are lying like as you are a cheap tattered looking Persia praying mat bought from a backstreet flea market

I surely can see the spirit of Beelzebub in you

elated177:
What is this guy's problem? Emere gi eme? Chei!

I have heard you, muttleylaff the degenerate. All you need to do is just go and open your own thread and propagate the message of your god of homosexuality. I will not venture to make a comment there.

Na wa o! Since December 2018 to now, I have never relented to tell you the same thing.

Do you believe that you are more deserving of heaven than two God believing, that have accepted Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, consenting adults, enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but displaying the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to happen from any other children of God to do, hmm?

elated177:
If the abominable act of homosexuality is your thing, have at it. My Creator forbids it. His Scriptures forbid it. My spirit, soul and body forbid it. The heavens above my head and the earth beneath my feet forbid it. Leave me and the saints of Yahushua the Messiah out of your cravings for strange flesh. We will stick with the requirements of our Father in heaven, Yahveh Almighty.

Leave me out of this. Dont personalise this or try to make it belong to me. I am a beneficiary of the blessing and product of Proverbs 18:22, so why not focus on each and every question I usually, always and freshly put at you, erhn? Respond with correct and proper answers instead of your usual running away from facing up to them, lmso

1/ What exactly is it that is the abominable act of homosexuality?
2/ Where did the Creator forbid two God believing, that have accepted Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, consenting adults, from enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but displaying the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to happen from any other children of God to do, hmm?
3/ Which of your misinterpretation of Scripture, forbids two God believing, that have accepted Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, consenting adults, from enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but displaying the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to happen from any other children of God to do, hmm?
4/ The heavens above your head and the earth beneath your feet might forbid but God who name is Wondeful, thank God, does not forbid two God believing, that have accepted Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, consenting adults, from enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but displaying the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to happen from any other children of God to do
5/ What's exactly morally wrong in two God believing, that have accepted Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, consenting adults, enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but displaying the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to happen from any other children of God to do, hmm?

elated177:
... Leave me and the saints of Yahushua the Messiah out of your cravings for strange flesh. We will stick with the requirements of our Father in heaven, Yahveh Almighty.

You are too much of a loose cannon to be ignored or be left alone to go about your toxic devices. You are not following God's Word, you instead choose to follow your opinion and be spreading lies such as this your "... your cravings for strange flesh" recent rumour.

elated177:
We no dey worship the same God, muttleylaff. No be by force.

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I have my eyes on you and so forced to give you a close marking, especially since you've chosen not to follow God's Word in the original context

elated177:
What is this guy's problem? Emere gi eme? Chei!

I have heard you, muttleylaff the degenerate. All you need to do is just go and open your own thread and propagate the message of your god of homosexuality. I will not venture to make a comment there.

Na wa o! Since December 2018 to now, I have never relented to tell you the same thing.

Do you believe that you are more deserving of heaven than two God believing, that have accepted Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, consenting adults, enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but displaying the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to happen from any other children of God to do, hmm?

elated177:
If the abominable act of homosexuality is your thing, have at it. My Creator forbids it. His Scriptures forbid it. My spirit, soul and body forbid it. The heavens above my head and the earth beneath my feet forbid it. Leave me and the saints of Yahushua the Messiah out of your cravings for strange flesh. We will stick with the requirements of our Father in heaven, Yahveh Almighty.

1/ What exactly is it that is the abominable act of homosexuality?
2/ Where did the Creator forbid two God believing, that have accepted Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, consenting adults, from enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but displaying the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to happen from any other children of God to do, hmm?
3/ Which of your misinterpretation of Scripture, forbids two God believing, that have accepted Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, consenting adults, from enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but displaying the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to happen from any other children of God to do, hmm?
4/ The heavens above your head and the earth beneath your feet might forbid but God who name is Wondeful, thank God, does not forbid two God believing, that have accepted Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, consenting adults, from enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but displaying the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to happen from any other children of God to do
5/ What's exactly morally wrong in two God believing, that have accepted Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, consenting adults, enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but displaying the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to happen from any other children of God to do, hmm?

elated177:
... Leave me and the saints of Yahushua the Messiah out of your cravings for strange flesh. We will stick with the requirements of our Father in heaven, Yahveh Almighty.

You are too much of a loose cannon to be ignored or be left alone to go about your toxic devices. You are not following God's Word, you instead choose to follow your opinion and be spreading lies such as this your "... your cravings for strange flesh" recent rumour.

elated177:
We no dey worship the same God, muttleylaff. No be by force.

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I have my eyes on you and so forced to give you a close marking, especially since you've chosen not to follow God's Word in the original context

elated177:
I weighed the two options: respond or ignore. It is better to respond to the accusation of this degenerate.

I preach the keeping of the Ten Commandments of my Father aggressively. Do I also disobey them closetedly?

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c8/a6/a7/c8a6a7fa0827285945565aa81e86d3df.jpg
What two laws are all the Law and the Prophets hanging on, hmm?

elated177:
I vehemently opposed a certain individual who said masturbation was scripturally approved. Do I also masturbate? Mmuu! Muttleylaff, the shameless fool. I have said it already. You no get shame. You don't even know how to be ashamed of you abominable conduct.

Chai! Mmuu! You are not going to hush me with your useless and baseless accusations.

It is your hypocrisy that is haunting you and dont worry, sooner or later Haggard's Law will surely snitch on you.

elated177:
How is it that you shameless show up on every single thread where homosexuality is condemned to counter the Scriptures? Agent of spiritual wickedness.

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I follow your cue to expose your crass ignorance, moralism and your bereft of biblical truth and fact

elated177:
Have I not made it explicitly clear to you that the two of us do not worship the same God? You worship a god of homosexuality and I don't worship the god of homosexuality. Stick with the requirements of your god. I will stick with the requirements of my God. Why do you find it difficult to grasp? Wetin dey worry this guy sef? Emere gi eme? Kai!

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There are homosexuals, and there are homosexuals, just as there are heterosexuals, and there are heterosexuals. God is the God of all sexualities, whether asexual, bisexual, pansexual, androsexual, homosexual, heterosexual et cetera. God biblically created and/or made them all.

elated177:
El Elohe Yahshrael!

Romans 1:
NIV
²⁶ Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.
²⁷ In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

AMP
²⁶For this reason God gave them over to degrading and vile passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural [a function contrary to nature],
²⁷and in the same way also the men turned away from the natural function of the woman and were consumed with their desire toward one another, men with men committing shameful acts and in return receiving in their own bodies the inevitable and appropriate penalty for their wrongdoing.

AMPC
²⁶ For this reason God gave them over and abandoned them to vile affections and degrading passions. For their women exchanged their natural function for an unnatural and abnormal one,
²⁷ And the men also turned from natural relations with women and were set ablaze (burning out, consumed) with lust for one another—men committing shameful acts with men and suffering in their own bodies and personalities the inevitable consequences and penalty of their wrong-doing and going astray, which was [their] fitting retribution.

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I treble dare you to be so kind, to point out ONE verse in the Bible, spoil yourself with choice of selecting any out of Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:26-27, 1 Corinthians 6:9 and/or 1 Timothy 1:10 and even whatnot, where a mention of any hint of homosexualism/homosexuality, is not linked to temple cult idolatry, lustful promiscuous sexual intercourse, offered temple male and/or female sex prostitution services, taking part in idolatry ritual sex-fuelled orgies, meaning that none of them Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:26-27, 1 Corinthians 6:9 and/or 1 Timothy 1:10 verses have no link, connection, association nor anything bad to say about two God believing, have accepted Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, consenting adults, enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but displaying the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to happen from any other children of God to do.

What Apostle Paul wrote in Romans 1:26-28 is different to what he typed in 1 Corinthians 6:9 and 1 Timothy 1:10, but there is a common thread in all three, and the common thread is, male prostituting.

Look at Romans Chapter 1, read it contextually so not to just take my words for it, because if any do, then they'll see and know that Romans 1:26-28, is about Apostle Paul talking of straight males who were having sex with other men in their pagan cults, which apparently is unnatural to them because they arent really sexually attracted to men, but are just doing indulging in this promiscuous sex arrangement for pagan religious reasons or forced into doing it merely for financial gains

The wrath of God against promiscuous same sex activity starts from around the verse Romans 1:18, then it, at Romans 1:26-27, in a way that leaves no room for doubt, stated that they burned with lust for one another, as men committed indecent acts with other men et cetera.

Now someone please tell me, do couples in a caring, kind, committed, romantic relationships associated with love, indulge in lust after another person or committing indecent acts with other people, hmm?. No, it doesnt happen like that and we all know that, so why aren't we stopping all sort of elated177 hanky panky hide and seek, peek a boo games of playing with real truth and facts huh? The whole of Romans 1:1-32 contextually was an indictment against temple male and female prositution. Period.

What is so hard in 2 Timothy 2:15 correctly and properly reading the bible.

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elated177:
Do not let anyone deceive with "per say."

MuttleyLaff:
The Bible doesn't strictly condemn homosexuality per se nor does it condemn sex between homosexuals, what the Bible explicitly condemns, like for example, the Leviticus verses, are homosexual sex done under pagan influence, done with fertility gods/goddess temple prostitutes. Other verses in the New Testament like Romans, Timothy and Corinthians are against homosexuals interested in prepubescent children, against promiscuous homosexual and temple prostituting males.

There is no Bible verse that condemns homosexuality as a whole or generally.

If you need detailed info or other questions, please don't hesitate to ask

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elated177:
Homosexuality in it's entirety is a vile, shameful, detestable and abominable act.

In a manner of clearly and exactly stating it what specifically is vile, shameful, detestable and an abominable act about two God believing, have accepted Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, consenting adults, enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but displaying the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to happen from any other children of God to do.

elated177:
It is unclean and unnatural. Teach your children the truth about homosexuality. It is abnormal.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu Yah!

What specifically is unclean in two God believing, have accepted Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, consenting adults, enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but displaying the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to happen from any other children of God to do.

elated177:
What relationship does light have with darkness?

What does the picture you posted have to do with me or the message?

I'll tell you, if no other would tell what is the relationship that picture posted by Organsmuggler posted have to do with you or the message.

It is the depth of your hypocrisy, as you're a closet homosexual/bisexual. You also likely desire the capable hands of a master masseur to help choke your chicken for you. You are an archetype of Ted Haggard. Have you at all heard about Haggard's Law? It is a quote, named after Pastor Ted Haggard and states that, the more outspoken, frequent and aggressive a person's objections to homosexuality are, the more likely that person is to be a homosexual.

Here is the original Haggard’s Law quote by its author Dennis DiClaudio:
"The likelihood of a person harboring secret desires to engage in sexual and/or romantic activities with members of the same sex is directly proportional to the frequency and volume of said person’s vocalized objections to homosexuality"

FOLYKAZE:
... I asked you to explain how, when and from whom Yahweh inherited Israel from according to Psalm 78:71. Nothing concern me with protoevangelium.

If Yahweh is the ultimate owner of the whole world land and populace, how come he Inherited Israel? Why should Israel be apportioned to him in Deut 32:8-9?

MuttleyLaff:
Do you practice at all what you preach? Do you walk your talk? I doubt you do either, because if you did do, you would be repeating I should explained, what I already have explained in my response back to you, but of course you didnt red or didnt read well enough what I typed, so the reason why you repeat yourself.

Now fyi, Psalms 24:1 states that: "The earth and everything on it, including its people, belong to the LORD. The world and its people belong to Him" and when God, in Exodus 33:19, says: "I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion", then now, give me a reason why should Israel not be possessed and/or owned by God? Pfft. Smh sigh.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1rai6WoOJU

02:03 Yeah, the famous story of the building of Babylon.
02:05 But, check this out.
02:06 When biblical authors like Moses or Isaiah looked back at the origins of Babylon,
02:11 they saw more than just a human rebellion, but also a spiritual rebellion.
02:16 What was this spiritual rebellion?
02:18 Well, there were members of the divine council who, like the humans, didn't want to represent God's authority anymore.
02:25 They wanted to be God and they rebelled.
02:27 So these created beings deceived humans into worshipping them instead of the Creator.
02:33 And so, Babylon becomes the biblical image for the combined human and spiritual rebellion .
02:40 So God scatters the people from Babylon into different nations.
02:44 In the book of Deuteronomy, Moses says this is when God also scattered the rebels of the divine council with them.
02:51 So the nations are handed over to spiritual rulers.
02:54 Yes. This is why when the biblical prophets look out at the violent empires of their day,
02:59 they see two dimensions to all the chaos and injustice:
03:02 human rebels, who are being corrupted by the worship of spiritual rebels -
03:07 the idol gods of money, sex, and military power.
03:10 Yeah, when humans give their allegiance to these powers it leads to a world like ours.
03:15 Right. The best example of this is the story of the Exodus
03:18 where we are told that the Egyptian genocide of the Israelites was inspired by Pharaoh and by the gods of Egypt.
03:25 That is really intense.
03:27 But it is not the end of the story.
03:28 When God rescued the Israelites from Egypt and its gods,
03:31 He invited them to become His covenant partners and learn a different way of ruling the world.
03:37 And they agree to it.
03:38 But, in the end, they do not honor the partnership.
03:41 They give their allegiance to other gods.
03:43 This leads to their exile in Babylon where they become slaves once again
03:48 to a foreign nation and their spiritual rulers, awaiting a new exodus into freedom.
03:53 This is where the story of Jesus picks up.

jesusjnr2020:
The Black Jesus Is One Of The False Christs That Would Arise In The Last Days

Jesus said:

Matthew 24:23-24, 28 (KJV)
²³ Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
²⁴ For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets,
and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
²⁸ For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

donnie, you are actively fulfilling the advanced warning prophecy of Matthew 24:23-24, 28 concerning false Christs and false prophets

MuttleyLaff:
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Your point here Revelation 1:14-15 is what?

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Our dear khia and donnie, where in Revelation 1:14-15, is there any mention of the body, talkless the skin colour of Yahusha Ha Mashiach please, hmm?

donnie, looking at your attached picture above or below, having the head a pitch black, how come you depict His head as pitch black when Revelation 1:14, actually states that His head and His hair were white, huh and not black head, as you have with your posted picture falsely portrayed, hmm?

1/ Do you properly and correctly understand the significant meaning of "white" as is used in Revelation 1:14?
2/ Please khia and donnie paste here photo examples of "burnished bronze" that without any reference to the body, only the feet was described to look like
3/ What the difference between "His feet were like burnished bronze" and "His feet were burnished bronze"

cc: OkCornel, nsiba

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donnie:
So it's a sin to reject a false white god and fake satanic vaccines?

Bible 101, there are false god(s), but God certainly, and Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ are neither white or black

What is the difference between fake satanic vaccines and real/genuine satanic vaccines then?

It is a sin to actively create a black Jesus, as this contravenes the "The Second commandment" that explicitly states, not to create God, in the image of any form or kind of human imagination whatsoever, nor not according to an atypical of God, further not to be base the created image on any formulation, theory, perverted idea or classic misrepresentation of God.

XXXXTENTACION:
Ok so how can i meet this your black jesus.
like can you share his cute pictures

You are interacting with a delusional person, who when trying to escape from penterascalism, jumped from the pot into the gaping fireplace while holding on to a keg of petrol

donnie:
The BLACK MESSIAH is the real MESSIAH. He was a Bantu/Negro and he already exists.

Pope Alexander VI who hired Leonardo Da Vinci to paint the fake white Jesus using the image of his illegitimate homosexual son Cesare Borgia, knew this for a fact.

Before the 1500s, the Isrealites and their MESSIAH were known widely to be black people (Bantus/Negroes).

XXXXTENTACION:
Thats their problem.

well it's okay you can go ahead and start worshipping the black jesus.

create stickers with the black jesus and paste it on your car and all your belongings.

you can organise seminars in your commnity and preach to them about the black jesus.

you can create a group move round the country go to churches telling them how jesus was a black man

donnie:
Great ideas... Thanks!
I'm already doing some of those though.

"but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble,
it would be better for him to have a heavy millstone hung around his neck,
and to be drowned in the depth of the sea."
- Matthew 18:6

"¹Jesus said to his disciples:
“Things that cause people to stumble are bound to come, but woe to anyone through whom they come.
²It would be better for them to be thrown into the sea
with a millstone tied around their neck than to cause one of these little ones to stumble."
- Luke 17:1-2

donnie, you, one out of the many, out there antichrists, it would be better for you to be thrown into the sea with a large millstone hung around your neck.

donnie:
You knew you had all that power and you want to take vaccine.. to prevent what?

To prevent the fear and scaremongering people of your sort are trying to propagate

donnie:
Wetin fake white Jesus nor go see for Christians hand.

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What have you been smoking?

There is nothing like white Jesus. There is nothing like black Jesus. There is nothing like any of the disciples ever being white skinned. There is nothing like any of the disciples ever being black skinned. Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ is not Christian. None of Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ' disciples ever were Christians.
cc OkCornel, nsiba

jesusjnr2020:
Where is the bloody vaccine?
I personally volunteer to take that vaccine let me see how the devil could kill God and His presence in my life.
What nonsense!

That's why we've been warning people not to settle for a mediocre walk with God but they wouldn't listen.
Now they are desperately trying to prevent the Scriptures which they say were all inspired of God from coming to pass.

"They will pick up serpents with their hands;
and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them ..."
- Mark 16:18

donnie:
When I say white Jesus is an idol, the image of the Beast ROME. They pretend as though they didn't hear me.

XXXXTENTACION:
If you believe so why don't you create your own black jesus and start worshipping

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You dont know our born fabulist donnie

He actively already has created his own black jesus and this from wilfully contravening the "The Second commandment" that explicitly states, not to create God, in the image of any human imagination whatsoever, nor to according to an atypical of God, even not to be based on any formulation, theory, perverted idea or classic misrepresentation of God whatsoever.

MuttleyLaff:
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donnie, eplanning, letu, khia et cetera

khia:
Revelations chapter 1: verses 14-15

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Your point here Revelation 1:14-15 is what?

donnie:
He had wooly (afro/negro) hair and skin the colour of bunt brass.

[img]https://s8/images/FakeJesus.jpg[/img]

Our dear khia and donnie, where in Revelation 1:14-15, is there any mention of the body, talkless the skin colour of Yahusha Ha Mashiach please, hmm?

donnie, looking at your attached picture above or below, having the head a pitch black, how come you depict His head as pitch black when Revelation 1:14, actually states that His head and His hair were white, huh and not black head, as you have with your posted picture falsely portrayed, hmm?

1/ Do you properly and correctly understand the significant meaning of "white" as is used in Revelation 1:14?
2/ Please khia and donnie paste here photo examples of "burnished bronze" that without any reference to the body, only the feet was described to look like
3/ What the difference between "His feet were like burnished bronze" and "His feet were burnished bronze"

cc: OkCornel, nsiba

DappaD:
Questions that seem to puzzle these churchgoers:
1. Where is Adam now?
2. At what point did God create a “hellfire” that wasn't listed among the creation accounts in Genesis 1&2?

Just ask livingchrist and his colleagues (Blabber, (i.e. blabbermouth) Emu (i.e. Emusan) Johnw, Muttley) in separate rooms and watch the funny answers you'll get

johnw47:
cowardly false jw dapp

if you want to ask me something then ask it, instead of gossiping to another old woman
and quote what i have been saying about the subjects, that you don't agree with, fool

Pro_24:7 
Wisdom is too high for a fool:

Rev 21:8 
But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers
and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars,
their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.

also answer, why do you lie and call me a church goes

don't go running away again now, will you false jw

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donnie, eplanning, letu, khia et cetera

AntiChristian:
Elisha and the Two Bears (2 Kings 2:23-25)

²³ Then he (Elisha) went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up by the way, young lads came out from the city and mocked him and said to him, “Go up, you baldhead; go up, you baldhead!”
²⁴When he looked behind him and saw them, he cursed them in the name of the LORD. Then two female bears came out of the woods and tore up forty-two lads of their number.
²⁵And he went from there to Mount Carmel, and from there he returned to Samaria.

So who killed the 42 kids and why were kids killed for mocking a man of God?

Was Jesus of the Bible involved here?

No thread derailment and no abuses! Only Biblical expositions!

"¹These are the commandments and statutes and ordinances that the LORD your God has instructed me to teach you to follow in the land that you are about to enter and possess,
²so that you and your children and grandchildren may fear the LORD your God all the days of your lives by keeping all His statutes and commandments that I give you, and so that your days may be prolonged."
- Deuteronomy 6:1-2

"²¹If you walk in hostility toward Me and refuse to obey Me, I will multiply your plagues seven times, according to your sins.
²²I will send wild animals against you to rob you of your children, destroy your livestock, and reduce your numbers, until your roads lie desolate."
- Leviticus 26:21-22

"They will be wasted from hunger and ravaged by pestilence and bitter plague;
I will send the fangs of wild beasts against them, with the venom of vipers that slither in the dust."
- Deuteronomy 32:24

I previously have said there was a covenant (i.e. agreement) between the Israelites and God at Mount Horeb. It was part of the conditions of the agreement that Elisha activated, because these young men, possibly even trainee prophets included, from the traditional home where God "lives", Bethel, rejected God, shooed and disgracefully sent His prophet away

Now, if Muhammed wont go to the mountain, the mountain will be brought to Muhammed. If going to read about the covenant's terms and conditions is going to be a daunting task, then I will bring excerpts of them here for you to read

Read the whole of Deuteronomy 5:1-33 and Deuteronomy 6:1-25, to know more about the covenant made between the Israelites and God at Mount Horeb.

They were not kids, but they were youths, young men, about same age as Elisha in fact, when the bears attacked.

Ecclesiastes 7:17 states that:
"Do not excel at wickedness, nor be a fool. Why die before your time?"

Those young men got their comeuppance. They carelessly shortened their lives by their bad and/or foolish actions. Abraham and Jacob, probably were turning in their graves at the behaviour of those young men. Abraham and Jacob, were probably rubbing their eyes in disbelief, wondering isnt this the same Bethel we knew and a place we associated with God.

It is tragic, that because Deuteronomy chapets 5 & 6 were ignored, the young men didnt live a long time, didnt enjoy a long life and the promise that their days may be long didnt happen for them.

Blabbermouth:
[s]A living dog is better than a dead lion.
"Ô lô mô dé o mê là, o lóhun mê là, o mê là ká ta ká ta"

Hahahahahahaha, well, it's about 40 days to a new year but a lot can happen within 40 days - maybe the dead lion can ressurect.

Hahahahahahaha

Cc: kkins25[/s]

"Alakisa oloorun, njo loru, ko gbọn pe, ilẹ ma mọ lọla" loosely translated means "Smello dressed in rags, with a false sense of security, is dancing in the dark night's moonlight but is none the wiser that, it'll soon tomorrow, be daybreak with revealing and telling light"

He who does not understand that the so called dead lion is more alive than the self-confessed, self-admitted living dog, will remain a dog, lmso

You are able to prooftext Ecclesiastes 9:4 and/or quote Ecclesiastes 9:4 only because of #ReprieveDefermentAdjournment

AvsGot007:
I believe getting the knowledge of this world first would lead me the REAL SOURCE, the creator.

Havent you cop on that it was getting the knowledge (i.e. information) of this world instead of first getting the knowledge of God (i.e. know/edge, meaning, know to have an edge) is what lead Adam and Eve away from the REAL SOURCE, the Creator, hmm?