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walls01:This and its likes are Messianic Psalms. They are prophetic pronouncements about Jesus etcetera given under the inspiration of the Spirit. Read further below, where I touched a bit on begot walls01:OK then, if you put it that way but I seriously would appreciate, if you kindly respond to the below questions, you forgot to answer: 1/ What is God's name? 2/ What is the name of the Father? 3/ Without necessarily talking of trinity, how many to your knowledge are called God? 5/ Has Jesus, to His face, ever directly been addressed as God or has Jesus, to His face, ever directly been called God? walls01:"Was God a Father before He begot Jesus?" was my question, and not just "What God a Father?" You grab? God, was just being God. God, for the first time and not before that, became a Father, after manifesting Himself in flesh, as Jesus (i.e. God introduced Himself, on that day, by means of "the Holy Ghost falling on to Mary insemination" phenomenon) walls01:Of course, it is clear to me, It's a pity, I can't vouch the same for you though. Sorry. walls01:What is my belief? What is the belief? What is the belief you don't agree with and/or can't accept? |
walls01:Yeepa! O gbe le ooo What is "... He was no longer a servant or minister" all about, what does that mean? Have you a biblical reference or backing for justifying making that remark? What about the other questions? You think I'll forget them, or let them slide, so you can get off lightly? You make laugh.... walls01:Help yourself further first. At this juncture, you need help more than anyone else walls01:You're now shifting goal post to thrones now, abi? It's OK, nothing spoilt but how many times do you want me to acknowledge all these, hmm? Was God a Father before He begot Jesus? How or with what was Mary impregnated? |
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walls01:Are you finding everything overwhelming? Is that why you're asking for a calming down? walls01:SMH, it is interpretation you perceive in all what's submitted? If that perception makes you feel better, so be it. I guess the questions are too hot for you to handle, hence why can't consider them, talkless touch Why don't you stop whining, man up, take the questions face up and answer them one after the other, eh? You haven't seen meh-meh yet walls01:SMH, if you aren't comfortable with Jesus getting addressed as God, the Son, then no problem, but there isn't anything wrong or incorrect in Jesus saying the Father sent Him, and that nor He sent Himself because technically it is true that Jesus didn't send Himself. It is God who sent Jesus. God came to earth in a human form via Jesus. Jesus is God, manifested in flesh. walls01:SMH. What and how do you mean interpreting the Bible? You wrote: "you notice how many times Jesus referred to God and note also he will have a new name" and I, to some length, responded along with, asking a few questions but what you can muster back is a whinging and feeble response of "... why are you interpreting..." |
miknielz:My dear children, I am writing this to you, so that you will not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an Advocate who pleads our case before the Father. He is Jesus Christ, the one who is truly righteous - 1 John 2:1 They better, both have a person, like an Advocate, who is Good and capable of putting a case on their behalf Having said that, do you know that, some people, will reject this court-appointed lawyer to represent them, merely and just because of the fact of who He is or what He represents They will rather face damnation, than have this court-appointed Lawyer argue their case on their behalf Where the two will end up at and/or what the sentencing will be, is down to the Judge weighing the defence put up by the Advocate or defence put up by themselves |
walls01:On the contrary, it is you that is blind to the truth Since you have a firmly closed mind it will be only by the sheer grace of God and power of the Holy Spirit you will notice the light to ever see the truth of this matter walls01:When I earlier asked you, to define the noun; God, I bet you thought, I didn't have a valid reason for making the request. OK now, why dont you put, your answered definition of God, into everywhere in Revelation 3:12 where God is mentioned, instead of reading or seeing God, to see the inadequacy of the definition of God you gave. Here are a few more questions, but please don't evade answering them, like you've been doing to almost all previous ones. I almost literally had to twist your arm behind your back before you involuntarily answered one of them 1/ What is God's name? 2/ What is the name of the Father? 3/ Without necessarily talking of trinity, how many to your knowledge are called God? 4/ Do you accept, agree and believe that Jesus is God? 5/ Has Jesus, to His face, ever directly been addressed as God or has He to His face, ever directly been called God? walls01:Who else were you expecting Jesus to refer to? Were you expecting Him to refer to Amadioha, or to Sango, or to Obatala? What else were you expecting Jesus to refer to? Were you expecting Jesus to refer to alcohol, or to drugs or to His stomach? Why are you surprised to notice Jesus referring to God? I am not surprised because it makes perfect sense that Jesus refers to God Please review and take a long time to thoroughly think over your definition and understanding of the noun; God walls01:What's wrong in God having a new name? Are you surprised that God will be giving Himself a new name? Is God not allowed or permitted to give Himself a new name ni? Afterall, there will be a new heaven, a new Jerusalem, a new earth, new bodies. It's called what's in vogue bro. Let God treat Himself too, by calling Himself by a new name He deserves the new name because He worked hard for it |
walls01:There you are, so why are throwing up hands, insisting that God isnt Jesus then? Why does it sound strange to you, for God, at the same time, be a Father in Heaven and be a Son on earth? Again, I will say, and repeat, in light of the earlier provided Isaiah 9:6 given with underlined FYIs, you really ought to, at least and for a start, be asking yourself the following questions: #1 Why did the God, need to become, God, the Father? #2 Why did God, need to become, God, the Son? #3 Why did God, stick to this means and follow these protocols? walls01:This remark sums up the reason why you've dug your heels in the ground because you don't realise that it isn't a matter of necessity but it is the reality walls01:The Holy Spirit had been involved right from the beginning. How do you think Mary had God? Chief, c'mon now, haba, are you really tongue in cheek seriously, suggesting that the Holy Spirit was given the task of salvation, atonement and redemption? walls01:I already have answered bro, check up the thread again and if you come back, saying you can't find it then I don't my repeating and/or re-hashing it. For now and/or at the moment, you do understand, the sentiment behind the phrase "my right hand man"? Don't you? |
walls01:Jesus is the Son of God because He was begotten by God And as many as received Jesus, to them, too, has been given the authority or power to become sons of God, even to them that believe on Jesus' name I like your oversimplified Italian analogy, but now indulge me, Is this Italian, a spirit at all? Is this Italian, able to manifest his Italian self in flesh? walls01:The feeling is mutual walls01:The control is down to grace and out of a labour of love Control, self control, to be precise, is part of the fruit of the Spirit walls01:We are not arguing brother, rather we, according to our understanding levels, are airing walls01:I second that and say Jesus is more walls01:Ditto You do same too until our paths cross again when you are ready to answer: Is it impossible for God to simultaneously and concurrently be in Heaven and earth at any moment of time? |
walls01:For unto us a Child is born, unto us a Son is given: and the government shall be upon His shoulder: and His name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. - Isaiah 9:6 The same verse as above. Don't you remember stylishly ignoring it Anyways, I am now getting used to your feigning and delayed tactics You won't find a verse with the term, God, the Son per se however Isaiah 9:6, is where I highlighted, with emphasised underlines, showing Jesus prophesied to be born a Son, then be respectively called mighty God and everlasting Father |
donnie:Donnie! Hmm, Donnie and poetic licence sha Issorite. It is allowed |
OLAADEGBU:Yes, Jesus did exist before Abraham What Jesus did mean when He said, 'Before Abraham was, I AM' in John 8:58 is: Before Abraham existed, I be Before Abraham existed, I being Before Abraham existed, I exist |
An2elect2:If you had used: poor soul, poor chap, poor guy or poor man instead of poor child, then that sympathy defence will stand it's ground I like your posts, I even have in the past, liked majority of some of your posts Don't take the constructive criticism personal I wouldn't have, if you've done same to me, more so, if you are right. |
An2elect2:When an agbalagba agbalagbi is called poor child, by an age mate or especially a younger person, that isn't pitying. If Petra1 isn't older than you, then you both are probably age mates, so whichever case, it's hard to be convinced that, when you laughingly called him a poor child you were pitying him |
walls01:Obviously you haven't understood and that's what has made you incorrectly think the Bible intentionally is being twisted walls01:If it makes you feel better, be deceiving yourself there. For unto us a Child is born, unto us a Son is given: and the government shall be upon His shoulder: and His name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. - Isaiah 9:6 That Isaiah 9:6 above aside, you really ought to, at least and for a start, be asking yourself the following questions: #1 Why did the God, need to become, God, the Father? #2 Why did God, need to become, God, the Son? #3 Why did God, stick to this means and follow these protocols? walls01:Seems, you aren't used to or you aren't familiar with the term; incarnation I'll ask you this question again that you've stylishly ignored: Is it impossible for God to simultaneously and concurrently be in Heaven and earth at any moment of time? |
petra1: An2elect2:Ahha, kilode? You laughably referred a complete and full grown man, husband and daddy, body of Christ elder, a poor child? Respect is a two way street |
petra1: An2elect2:Ahha, kilode? You referred a complete and full grown man, husband and daddy, body of Christ elder, laughably a poor child? Respect is a two way street |
adelee777:Don't even go trinity there. Have you, in any slightest manner, ever read me anywhere canvassing trinity? There you are. I didn't think so. Now retract your remark because lied. God, for the fact, so far, having revealed Himself in 3 persons doesn't mean He is restricted to 3. God can't be boxed, God is limitless. God is ∞-persons. God's name is YHWH, also referred to as Yahweh. It is a self disclosing name meaning, I AM I AM God, will be whatever, He wants to be. God, shall be whatever, He shall be God, is I AM THAT I AM The clichés, naivety & surface knowledge peddled on this page and the last two-three ago are something else. Jesus, too, once was baffled of Nicodemus, that, in John 3:10, He couldn't hold back not asking: “You are the teacher of Israel, and do you not know these things? (i.e. yet you do not understand these things?) FYI, I live, breathe, sleep and believe in the word and Word. |
walls01:If you had read, as in, really read, Hebrews, the whole chapter 1, you would have noted references to verses from the Messianic Psalms and spotted, when God, precisely became Father and/or became Son but of course, you can't, because you're working very hard to stay and remain ignorant to truth |
Jacksonville:Yes, there is leprosy that isn't contagious This is why I typed it "leprosy", in my response Jacksonville:Your exegesis and/or hermeneutics about the matter is blameless |
walls01:SMH. You make me laugh, as I am no match for your ignorance Please, if at all you haven't picked up anything so far, take aboard that, context is king How you managed to not properly understand John 1:1-3 and Isaiah 55:11 is unfortunate. Did Jesus return void, unaccomplished? |
walls01:Why don't paste here what Psalm 110:1 says? I can bet my bottom dollar, you've misunderstood it walls01:The earlier Stephen explanation I gave, understandably, went over your head walls01:The truth, always, will set you free, but first it will piss you off walls01:What Jesus said and what I said are true. What the Bible says and what I said, also is true walls01:I haven't even posted anything on this thread yet, about the original words of the Bible. You don't even know what the original words of the bible are, because if you do, you wouldn't in the manner you did, be referring me to Psalms 110.1 Unbelievers ridiculing the bible is the least of your concerns because any that does, do it at their own peril I understandably know, you're out of your depth. |
walls01:1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God 2He was with God in the beginning. 3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 14The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us - John 1:1-3; 14 Oookaaay, so now in light of John 1:1-3 and 14 above, are you insisting and saying God wasn't on earth? |
walls01:Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, And they shall call his name Immanuel; which is, being interpreted, God with us - Matthew 1:23 Walls01, who is the baby in Matthew 1:23 above, whose name is interpreted as "God with us"? In what form was that and the God with us? |
sarcasticwhyte:Karma has everyone's address, sometimes that, what you deserve, is better than that, what you want or hope to get |
sarcasticwhyte:Karma has no menu. You get served what you deserve. |
Jacksonville:Jacksonville nailed it but someone else, like maybe Adelee777, would read this and blurt out that, Jacksonville has put a spin on, to answer muehonyx22's Gehazi "leprosy" problem question. Jacksonville:No need for further contributions, as I doubt any more contributions, can improve on what you've contributed |
adelee777:Is saying wow, now the new fashion in town because it seems to be catching on. I'll tell you what is funny, your claim, that guys are inventing fables, when not a single animal has yet been mentioned. That is hilarious. adelee777:Why can't you stick to one thing and grasp it first before jumping on to another. You've now brought Yahweh, also known as Jehovah in to the fray but if asked to explain Yahweh, you'll get stumped FYI (i.e. For Your Information) Yahweh is God and Yahweh on record, does say, He is God. adelee777:I wasn't really going to because I realise that you're used to scooping petroleum off the earth surfaces, used to plucking pearls off the ocean waves and used to picking up diamonds and charcoals off the streets. Soft work has turned to hard work or labour, and that's enough for me to begin lose interest |
adelee777:If your life depended on it, is this how you will, without holding back, define God? What a sloppy attempt and insufficient definition. So, the noun, god, is just used for superhuman beings only, hmm? Evidently, you haven't thought well enough over and/or about what God and god means adelee777:What excuse are you talking of? What didn't He do, that you are trying to say, is being attributed to Him? Was God not simultaneously and concurrently in Heaven and earth? adelee777:No, Christ, otherwise called Messiah, who is Jesus, and who is God the Son, didn't anoint Himself because according to the bible, God, the Son was anointed by God, the Father adelee777:He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he will not go out from it anymore; and I will write on him the name of My God, and the name of the city of My God, the new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God, and My new name - Revelation 3:12 Of course, He did. Revelation 3:12 precisely is where He said, He will make overcomers pillars in the Temple of His God What name or word were you expecting Jesus Christ to refer to and/or mention in Revelation 3:12? Isn't it God you were/are expecting? Or were you expecting Jesus, to make overcomers, pillars in the temple of Obatala or the temple of alcohol, or the temple of stomach or in the temple of drugs? adelee777:You really don't grasp the meaning of that Stephen vision. Stephen, seeing Christ, on the right hand side of God, means, seeing Jesus Christ, God, the Son, helping and supporting God, the Father, the most, seeing Him, especially at the work God has set out to do. Jesus, helped God the most, that is why Stephen saw Jesus on the right hand side of God. Your inadequate definition of God and god, is the reason behind your inability to understand and so not able to figure this and others out |
walls01:You sound surprised If you want something done right or want it be done, in a very certain or particular way, then it becomes necessary and best for you, to do it yourself So that's what God did. God DIY, by sending Himself. God, became God, the Father, as well as He became God, the Son God, a Spirit, came down to earth, embodied in flesh (i.e. human being body) in the person of Jesus Christ, God, the Son God, the Father and God, the Son, are one walls01:Of course, it clearly is God now. Or who do you think is the driving force behind Jesus? Who motivates Jesus? Who influences Jesus? Who is Jesus always yielding to? Who sent Jesus? Please tell now. Or is it Obatala? Is it alcohol? Is it the stomach? Is it drugs? walls01:Think about when God became God, the Father and also became God, the Son Also who or what are you expecting Jesus to cry to, if not God. walls01:I have explained this, if not somewhere above, then it'll be in the reply to adelee777 walls01:Correction, God, in His capacity, as God, the Father, spoke from heaven, saying this is my Son, in Whom, Am well pleased with walls01:Same as the last answer above |
walls01:The meaning is, that, just as God sent Himself, so does He send you. walls01:There is no argument whatsover and none anywhere for that matter, as regards to, whether or not Jesus is the same as God (i.e. one being) especially if you agree and accept that it is possible for God to simultaneously and concurrently be in heaven and on earth at any particular point in time |
adelee777:What you've quoted or paraphrased above there, is Nicodemus' John 3:2 perplexed, threading softly breaking-the-ice opening statement adelee777:Do people scoop petroleum off the surface of the earth? Do people scoop pearls floating on water waves? Do people pick up diamonds or charcoal off the ground? The but verse 39b is where the tell tale sign is. adelee777:This is an awesome question that I would only answer you, based on 3 conditions. Which are that, you, first would have to, without holding back, exhaustively define the nouns; God and god, for me Also, since you've mentioned & used the word; Christ, to please, fully define what Christ is and/or means? Lastly, do you agree and accept that, it is not impossible for God to simultaneously and concurrently be in Heaven and Earth at any moment in time? |
adelee777:They replied, "We're stoning you not for any good work, but for blasphemy! You, a mere man, claim to be God - John 10:33 The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, 'Look, a glutton and a drunk, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!' Absolved from every act of sin, is wisdom justified by its works.” - Matthew 11:19 John 10:33 and Matthew 11:19 are reproduced above for the benefit of any not familiar with the verses' contents In John 10:33, we see clearly Jesus being accused by the Jews of claiming to be God, Whereas, in Matthew 11:19, we see clearly the Jews, here, taking it upon themselves to actually claim that Jesus is a glutton and drunkard Accusations, like saying, He claimed to be God, He is the Messiah etcetera, is different from getting called names, like being called a glutton, drunkard etcetera John 10:33 is accusation whilst Matthew 11:16 is ad hominem Wisdom (i.e. good decision or correct conclusion) is vindicated by works or action What works or actions showed Jesus, as God and what actions or works showed or would qualify Jesus to be a glutton and drunkard? The answer to the former, is that there are loads of works/actions signifying that Jesus is God but there are diddly-squat nothing that proves(d) Jesus is a glutton, drunkard or any other negative adjective label for that matter anyone can think of. Jesus, among his caucus or inner circle, on many occasions confirmed claims He is God. Nicodemus, who came in the middle of the night, left, being able to draw in the lines and eventually accept that Jesus is God, from the slight rebuke and dots Jesus gave him. |
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