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Christianity Etc › Re: The Essential Doctrines For All Christians To Believe by MuttleyLaff: 9:54pm On Sep 28, 2017
walls01:
I don't even know what to write or say, about you using film to explain the awesomeness of God. brother stop misquoting the Bible to suit your belief
brother, I will use anything, burning fire bush, film, or whatnot to explain the awesomeness of God

If a mere Agent Smith, can multiply self, like watched in that few minutes video-clip, imagine God doing His version, with great finesse
You do agree and accept that it is a stunt, what God pulled, whilst still in heaven, came down to earth, as Jesus Christ?
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Do You Preach To Someone Who Is Deeply Involved In Occultism And Sorcery?" by MuttleyLaff:
chalantmike:
So finally yhu guys agreed his Jethro was not a high priest of Yahweh
Dont you get it?
Why would Jethro be a high priest of Yahweh, when the high priest title and office started with Aaron, hmm?

chalantmike:
finally yhu guys agreed Jethro was just one with knowledge of Yahweh
You sure like consoling yourself with the thought that Jethro only had knowledge of Yahweh, without at all worshipping Yahweh, before meeting Moses

chalantmike:
finally yhu agree Jethro is on my side of the stick,
analice was busy dodging that fact and stressing out
Dont you lnow that Jethro moved away from your side of the stick
You better, pronto, do same too

chalantmike:
Abeg all the fact yhur mention already knew was pointless mentioning I just wanted,
I just wanted analice to admit that Jethro was not a high priest of Yahweh regardless of what his name meant,
and that he had no affiliation with the deity Yahweh, other than father in-law to moses, analice was busy trying to claim Jethro.
Meanwhile Jethro belong to the league of Balaam 'when who do not worship Yahweh
but with knowledge of Yahweh, this men worshipped a different " analice was busy trying to claim otherwise
And the Scripture was fulfilled that says,
"Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,"
and he was called a friend of God

- James 2:23

Jethro worshipped Yahweh, obviously alongside worshipping other gods
but later soon realised that Yahweh is superior to other gods, by accepting and admitting this

Isaac was the promised child, so it is understandable, that Jethro strayed
but hey, he turned round to God, he move away from

chalantmike:
So finally I hope yhu guys acan tell now yhu do not have to be Christian "which is just name anyway,
to access certain secret/power that unique to the bible"
No, you actually have to and need to be a christian
The people of Antioch coined that christian word,
and by a twist of fate, it actually is just the right name for all impure(s) trying to access certain secret/power that's unique to the bible

chalantmike:
I hope yhu guys finally understand that yhu Yahweh,
does not care/give on which part of the branch yhu choose to follow to access,
as long as yhur intentions are write and its him yhu wanna access, his kool
So you think the grass is greener on the dark other side, hmm?
The road to "hell" is paved with good intentions

chalantmike:
So yhu guys 'Christians" get the above two points there is no point in me engaging yhu,
unless yhu don't [analice do yhu still want to argue] we can still go some more
Points have been made clear
At least, you've had the opportunity to brush up and see light

chalantmike:
And by the all of yhu guy combined, no one gave me a hard time, don't see hole I cudnt come out of.
You were taken aback and dazed.
If you werent, you wouldnt have mistook people for each other

chalantmike:
If yhu guys agree to those two point, I won.
You won?
What's the use, if you're to lose the soul
Who does the pathetic win epp?
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Do You Preach To Someone Who Is Deeply Involved In Occultism And Sorcery?" by MuttleyLaff: 8:05pm On Sep 28, 2017
It's not like there was casting for someone to play the tool, so why the auditioning
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Do You Preach To Someone Who Is Deeply Involved In Occultism And Sorcery?" by MuttleyLaff: 6:20pm On Sep 28, 2017
PastorAIO:
You skipped my simple question just to answer the next one with nonsense
It's obvious am not in the mood of playing your stewpid games with you.

The bandwagon was set up, but you jumped on it first, duh. SMH
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Do You Preach To Someone Who Is Deeply Involved In Occultism And Sorcery?" by MuttleyLaff: 5:36pm On Sep 28, 2017
PastorAIO:
12In the thirty-ninth year of his reign Asa was afflicted with a disease in his feet. Though his disease was severe, even in his illness he did not seek help from the Lord, but only from the physicians.
13Then in the forty-first year of his reign Asa died and rested with his with his ancestors.
- 2 Chronicles 16:12-13
That verse about King Asa, just proves, the point
and confirms that consistency straight on to the end matters.
You don't cut off the nose to spite the face
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Do You Preach To Someone Who Is Deeply Involved In Occultism And Sorcery?" by MuttleyLaff: 3:56pm On Sep 28, 2017
PastorAIO:
If you can show us (both Analice and Muttlwy, I'm talking to you) where I mentioned Moses before this post of mottley when he. Roughy it up then you didn't lie. However if you can't then you both still will remain mendacious, doing the will of your father, the father of lies.

I'm not prepared to wriggle around with a pair of worms who can even lie about what they have just said.
I am not surprised you managed to not be able to differentiate between "jumped on to a bandwagon" and "mentioned"

I proffered those Exodus verses to show the different sources of secrets
and to highlight how the magicians of Egypt copied Moses' wonder(s),
but then, instead of staying lying down, you jumped up onto the bandwagon, waving in the air Acts 7:22

Your Acts 7:22 was countered with the Solomon verse and then the ping pong etcetera continued up till before you spat out the soother

"Ai tete mu ole, ole nmu oloko"
loosely meaning
"Pulling a fast one, trying to deflect attention from self by deceitfully labelling innocents as liars
Farm marauder accusing farmer owner of theft
"
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Do You Preach To Someone Who Is Deeply Involved In Occultism And Sorcery?" by MuttleyLaff: 11:44pm On Sep 27, 2017
PastorAIO:
So what is the flip side?
Since you know it so well.
"Pretty please" or acting with the utmost decorum, would have made me oblige
Sneering is one of my biggest pet peeves,
I know it is a reaction from a wounded pride
but I am not buying it, so pack it in

PastorAIO:
So how is a pharmacist NOT a witch?
SMH. And he persists in mendacity.
You're having people believe and still maintaining the impression that pharmakeia is entirely good and honest
and saying so because it is from which we get the modern word Pharmacy

I am not going to fall out with you
because you know, that, pharmakeia, back in the day, has a sinister and different meaning,
(i.e. means magic, witchcraft, drug-related sorcery, enchantment, the use or the administering of drugs, medicine, poisoning or spells)
as opposed to the meaning associated with the modern word Pharmacy
which was first recorded in 1833, for a place where drugs are prepared and dispensed

OK, for an example, a pharmacist is NOT a witch,
if not in the business of handing out drugs and other similar or familiar things to people,
to use for gaining contact with principalities, powers of the spirit world,
the rulers of the darkness of this world, spiritual wickedness in high places

When a "pharmacist" offers you, say, "flakka" or "bath salts",
that right there, is your typical proof of a pharmacist being a witch

PastorAIO:
So if you are an illiterate you are condemned to 'truth decay, lies and misinformation'
Is there no balm in Gilead?
Is there no physician there
?
Why then has not the health of the daughter of my people been restored?

- Jeremiah 8:22

On hearing this, Jesus told them,
"It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick.
I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners."

- Mark 2:17

Jesus answered,
"It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick

- Luke 5:31

A woman was there who had been suffering from chronic bleeding for twelve years.
Although she had spent all she had on doctors, no one could heal her

- Luke 8:43

You're reading too much into my remark my friend
and made it appear different from the way it really was typed
You're beginning to behave like a, Pharisee Far-i-see
You've twisted my response and taken it out of context, to make me go down "the" road with you
but you're going it alone, as I pass, going with you
so I leave the hypotheticals and the speculation to you

The above useful and informative verses, carry the point, you tried twisting
Christianity Etc › Re: The Middle Path by MuttleyLaff:
petra1:
Ah no bashing for me today . ope o jesu shocked
We go wash am ooo
You must be doing something right grin grin grin

Sarassin:
Obviously nobody gives a toss!
Sukkot is the one at the receiving end of tosses
He seems to be a more appetizing target for others to want to bash grin grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Do You Preach To Someone Who Is Deeply Involved In Occultism And Sorcery?" by MuttleyLaff: 11:40pm On Sep 27, 2017
chalantmike:
Really don't know how yhu guys do this quoting in blocks
SMH

chalantmike:
am sure yhu should be able to pick where it belongs
SMH, ffs...
You better brush up your coding skills
because I wont strain myself trying to make heads or tails of your post, next time you play this prank.

chalantmike:
Yhur asking a question yhu already know the answer too
Of course, I already know the answer
and it is obvious I asked the question for your benefit

chalantmike:
He is not called the Abrahamic God, the God of Abraham out of fashion.
No race/ nation served him, yhu Jethro was not a high priest of God and yhu know
He never claimed to be a high priest of God
he, understandably, simply was priest of Midian

chalantmike:
if he were he would have been mention,
[b]if the name of Jethro's deity was important am
or Jethro had affiliation with the Isreal am sure the writers of the bible wouldn't skip it
SMH, apart from Abraham's unique and special son's name, please list the names of his other children
Connect the dots from the names, to see the "affiliation with the Isreal" and how Jethro would have had prior knowledge of Yahweh
PS: I've seen you've now gone to brush up info, looking up Jethro's geneology and etcetera

chalantmike:
am pretty sure narrow minded finatics like yhu skipped the name of that deity
so as to avoid situations like this that does not favour yhur debate
am pretty sure you're beginning to realise you're out of your depth
and know really nothing, about the matter

chalantmike:
Jethro was not a high priest of Yahweh.
I dont know why you are bandying high priest about
Why would Jethro ever had been a high priest, he is the third priest, after Melchizedek and Potipherah; mentioned in the bible
Jethro was a priest of Midian

Of course, the high priest title and office instituted by Yahweh, didnt start before Aaron, the elder brother of Moses

If you know the roles of the high priests, then you'll know why "Jethro was not a high priest of Yahweh"

chalantmike:
Simple he had his own deity
9Jethro rejoiced over all the good things the LORD had done for Israel when He rescued them from the power of the Egyptians.
10“Praise the LORD, Jethro exclaimed,
“who rescued you from Pharaoh and the power of the Egyptians and snatched the people from the power of the Egyptians.
11Now I know that Yahweh is greater than all gods, because He did wonders when the Egyptians acted arrogantly against Israel.”
12Then Jethro, Moses’ father-in-law, brought a burnt offering and sacrifices to God,
and Aaron came with all the elders of Israel to eat a meal with Moses’ father-in-law in God’s presence.

- Exodus 18:9-12

Correction, though a friend of God, not just by name but also in nature, he stll hung on to few of his own deity(ies)
but then in Exodus 18:11, he was won over and came round eventually

chalantmike:
Nigga yhu don't want my point to sink in abi, Balaam's method was not the problem stopping quoting n dancing around cause yhu don't want to admit
You have no point
You're missing the point that Balaam got his comeuppance in the end
If not for the donkey, he would have been dead meat, taken out earlier

chalantmike:
Did Yahweh rebuke Balaam for his method, divination etc,
did God reject Balaam cause of who he is or how he chose to approach God,
did God kill Balaam or allow Balaam to get killed because of his an occultist
or is it because of his disobedience and greed
In the fourth generation your descendants will come back here, for the sin of the Amorites has not yet reached its full measure."
- Genesis 15:16

God permits, all, fill cups with sin before judgment
Balaam was filling up his cup and storing up the wrath of God

chalantmike:
Dude, am already getting workup its right there before yhur eyes yhu don't want to admit it.
Yahweh knew who Balaam was yet he still revel his intention to him,
Balaam's error was thinking he could bribe Yahweh the way he would normal bribe or appease other deity with blood of animals and poo
Yep, but Balaam wasnt sensible, or was he?

chalantmike:
I once engaged in an argument n I made sure to point to them, when yhu working with any deity, yhu never 100% sure of what yhu hear,
or read by divination or omen, yhu act base on instruction and sheer faith.
Putting myself in Balaam's shoes let's assume that its the first time Balaam is interacting with the deity Yahweh,
there should be a place for loophole, manipulate, bribe, appease after all he has done it before with other deities why should this Yahweh deity be different.
Am sure that is what he thought and he paid the price for it.

My point Balaam was not faulted for his way or approach to the tree.
You're writing gibberish again

chalantmike:
Get some sense
am not even demonstrating outside ur bible, what would now happen if I decide to quote other vias.

Are yhu taking Jesus litrally , don't yhu know he like to speak in parable or context ?

Is a vine a tree or a plant ?

Do plants have branches?.

Would it have been appropriate to call himself the true sourch here, a tree?.

Vine keeper is likely to caretaker here in this context?.

Whenever yhu are ready don't just read, ask yhur self questions like what is this poo trying to say, especially when it comes to Jesus cause his very sneaky with words and like to show his wise and likes to talk like his talking to 10yr olds not adults.

Dude in context his trying to demonstrate cutting off of sinner, removing God outside of the box, instead of inside, abi who is going to cut off sinners or anyone not bearing fruit ,is it him, if he had been the branch, or God if had been the tree in this context, finally who was going to set them ablaze.

Vines don't have branches they av stems
Vines don't have branches? SMH.
I have told you once before and will here, repeat it again
You are more confused than a chameleon in a bag of skittles

chalantmike:
Before yhu start quoting that "I am the way" verse.
Yhur Jesus never said he was the only way, and with regards to his target audience his the only way to the father.
Dude Balaam was able to reach Yahweh and get his intentions by divination, buh he could not change his intention.
So Jesus is not the only way to God.

“vine” is a plant whose stems require support. It either climbs up a tree or other structure, or it sprawls over the ground.
Vines can climb with tendrils or with other “grasping” appendages, or by coiling their stems
You're unbelievably obstinate
Dude, get this straight, true vine is different from false vine(s). OK?

chalantmike:
Now as to the meaning of the name Jethro, in Hebrew it means "Abundance, excellence"
Abundance is most approximate word.
According to the bible it means "His Excellence", this one is kind of wrong if yhu want to be strict, buh also correct

Can't be giving long stories buh it seems Jethro is a title not a name, especially in the way it was used anyway.

Reuel, that should be his name, it means "friend of God".
Friend ooh not worshiper.
The story Jethro still proves my point yhur can follow whatever branch yhu decide and still work with Yahweh, as long as yhur not an enemy, or misuse poo
analice107 has spared your blushes
and you still dont know half of the story of Jethro

chalantmike:
The Egyptians failed cause they were opposing side of things a God that they would have worked with, they choose to fight.
Balaam chose to bribe rather than obey, and they both paid the price.
Forget Yahweh even in Real life when a deity says something there isn't always a back door.

On judgement day Christianity is not cup that would be used to measure out to all individuals, that would be stupid,
but what the Bleep did yhu do while yhu were Alice, what did yhu do with yhur life

So let's stop derailing the poor thread
My survival instincts are kicking in and so I have to leg it anyway,
before you bore me to death with another untidy, weak, unappetizing, off-putting and carelessly presented post

chalantmike:
oh analice, don't even know it was thought that muf... Guy or something.
https://gifyu.com/images/steadylaugh.gif
He was feeling the landing hooks
analice107 with heavy jabs,
was left right and centre
pummeling him mercilessly
he dazedly thought it was MuttleyLaff
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Do You Preach To Someone Who Is Deeply Involved In Occultism And Sorcery?" by MuttleyLaff: 8:58am On Sep 26, 2017
analice107:
Jethro was a High to what deity? And, even if he were, in Jethro's time, Yahweh was not known to them, so everyone worshiped satan.

When you talk about Moses seeking counsel from Jethro, that wasn't true, Jethro visited and saw how Moses was encumbered with the running of the camp alone, he gave a wise and an elderly counsel to Moses. It doesn't take a satanist to know that in that circumstance Moses needed help.

And, when i read through that, i didn't see the god of Jethro anointing the men Moses chose to run the camp with him, i saw Yahweh doing that.
so, pls stop making things look like satan has a hand in running God's business
He must think Moses is losing it
Just let him tell what Jethro's personal name is and what it means
Also to mention who was the other person in the Bible, way before Moses, God identified Jethro's personal name with
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Do You Preach To Someone Who Is Deeply Involved In Occultism And Sorcery?" by MuttleyLaff:
chalantmike:
I was going to leave this thread since my point has already been established buh then someone e yhu had to comment
We have a crusader
There wasnt any established point in your post, it must have been a mote point then

chalantmike:
Yhu keep quoting how moses floored the Egyptians because their knowledge was not from God or something
But it is true now, isnt it

chalantmike:
Do yhu know that moses father in-law was a high priest to deity, do yhu know that moses seemed council from Jethro on how to govern the children of Israel. Do yhu know who gave moses the staff, the rod he held
Are you shocked or surprised at that?
What is the Deity's name?
What is Moses' father in-law personal name and what does it mean?

chalantmike:
Exodus 2:18
Exodus 18:1-27
Exodus 18:1; Exodus 18:7; Exodus 18:9; Exodus 18:10; Exodus 18:12
Do you know the name of the other person mentioned in the bible,
that had the kind of relationship Moses'father in-law shared with God
?
Tell if you do

chalantmike:
Yhu Christians like to get on a high horse that feeling of entitlement fighting over who gets to sit on daddies lap,
yhurz is right everyone else's is wrong blah blah blah.
Yhur God is not as narrow minded as yhu are,
he has worked with many would/close to occultist in the bible n never faulted those individuals
Let Christians speak for themselves
I am not holding brief for Christians

chalantmike:
As in the case of Balaam, Balaam was not punished for his method or way of approaching God which was purely occultic
By now Balaam realized that the LORD was determined to bless Israel,
so he did not resort to divination as before.
Instead, he turned and looked out toward the wilderness

- Numbers 24:1

SMH, forgive, I apologize in advance to everyone, you are another one, more confused than a chameleon in a bag of skittles

chalantmike:
he punished for his disobedience. Numbers 22 - 24
Balak's messengers, who were elders of Moab and Midian,
taking with them the fee for divination,
set out with money to pay Balaam to place a curse upon Israel.
They went to Balaam and delivered Balak's message to him

- Numbers 22:7

All five of the Midianite kings--Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba--died in the battle.
They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword

- Numbers 31:8

So, people who think they are standing firmly should be careful that they don't fall
- 1 Corinthians 10:12

I am not going to be bothered with bringing in Numbers 22:21-35 nor mention Joshua 24:9-10
suffice to say, Balaam was not punished for his disobedience,
he was punished by greed and his disobedience

Oh oh, never mind, you'll soon slowly but surely begin to get it

chalantmike:
2 Kings 3:27
Read that.
SMH, whats to read in 2 Kings 3:27?

chalantmike:
Its a tree, it has always been a tree, the branches is not the problem,
it is the practitioner that problem lies with
"1I am the true vine, and My Father is the keeper of the vineyard.
2He cuts off every branch in Me that bears no fruit,
and every branch that does bear fruit,
He prunes to make it even more fruitful
.
5Yes, I am the vine; you are the branches.
Those who remain in me, and I in them, will produce much fruit.
For apart from me you can do nothing

- John 15:1-2; 5

You say "the branches is not the problem",
but how cant you see that, the branches are the farking problems brother

chalantmike:
modern day occultic way heavily acknowledge and owe a big thank yhu to Solomon.
Do yhu know why, do yhu know how Solomon was able to access certain knowledge and know what he knew,
do yhu remember the religion of his wives their sacrifices that he partook in, the foreign merchants he interacted with.
Know this God promised Solomon knowledge, wisdom and understanding, he didn't say how. That's cause God was smart .
Too much talk.
There I go again, I was expecting to read something serious or worthwhile
Now, you owe me my time back, wasted, on reading this piece of garbage and crummy post

chalantmike:
You guys are derailing the thread
Yes, you are, derailing the thread, with your increasingly comical and repulsive evidence(s) of confused thinking
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Do You Preach To Someone Who Is Deeply Involved In Occultism And Sorcery?" by MuttleyLaff:
chalantmike:
forgive I apologize in advance to everyone,
buh nigga yhu are slowpoke better put are yhu a slowpoke.
The adjective suits you more than anyone else

chalantmike:
pastorAIO gave yhu an exact fact, answer
So?

chalantmike:
what do yhu think chemistry is,
why do yhu think the Catholics in ancient time outlawed the practice/study of science,
dude modern day science is pure sorcery.
from yhur biology to yhur mathematics, all sorcery
MuttleyLaff:
First of all, what if you're told, there is negative "sorcery" and there is positive "sorcery"

Now, there is a sharp distinction, which is very simple, between each

That is, negative "sorcery" is any activity that bypasses God’s wisdom and power
and the source is usually attributed to mytical gods and/or Satan instead.
Also most purveyors of this brand of sorcery have no great pride in Yeshua Ha Maisaich aka Jesus Christ
or hardly have any pleasure in acknowledging His divinity
Did I have to really quote myself
in order to show you're constipated with ignorance & barking up against the wrong tree
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Do You Preach To Someone Who Is Deeply Involved In Occultism And Sorcery?" by MuttleyLaff: 10:24pm On Sep 24, 2017
PastorAIO:
Sorcery: The use of drugs and herbs for the curing of illness and in bringing about a change in mental state.
That is one aspect of sorcery
What of the flip side?

PastorAIO:
Sorcery in biblical greek is pharmakeía, from which we get the modern word Pharmacy.
A pharmacist is therefore a witch.
SMH. Deductive fallacy

PastorAIO:
There are christians that being aware of this fact refrain from the use of even panadol to relieve headache.
They are aware that no where in the bible promotes the use of pharmacy (herbs etc) to cure sickness but only the use of Water.
In fact the use of drugs is a sin. But how many christians are ready to test their faith like this
Christians?
That term or word, totally is a misnomer
but that is not germane to the thread's title and original post

Truth decay, lies and misinformation
That is what happens, what people get, when they refuse to brush up on the bible themselves
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Do You Preach To Someone Who Is Deeply Involved In Occultism And Sorcery?" by MuttleyLaff:
PastorAIO:
It's a great technique that you are obviously expert at.
Please dont bother wasting sarcasms over someone who's careless of sarky comments

PastorAIO:
You starve the focus and feed the distractions.
We both know what "focus" and "distractions" means to each other

PastorAIO:
From Occultism and the fact that great parts of christianity are occult you jumped to Egypt and Moses.
From Moses you jumped to Solomon.
It's you who first jumped on to the Egypt and Moses bandwagon.
So yup, I made the counterpoint, that not all secrets come from God, as can be seen from the first of the signs and wonders in the land of Egypt, the magicians made an exact copy of

Then I made another counter-point, that, if, like you've pointed out, that Moses was instructed in all the wisdom of the Egyptians,
you failed noting that the combined wisdom of the East and all the wisdom of the Egyptians, is no match for the wisdom Solomon got,
which is wisdom that comes directly from God or that has God as the only source of it

PastorAIO:
All the while adding nothing just distracting from the key subject of how to preach to someone involved with the occult and sorcery
Never waste time trying to preach to those who cant admit that dabbling into occult and sorcery can be a slippery slope
Analice107, to a great extent, preached on this thread to someone involved with the occult and sorcery,
but after a long time, it became obvious she is whistling in the wind and preaching to the wrong choir
Christianity Etc › Re: The Essential Doctrines For All Christians To Believe by MuttleyLaff: 6:46pm On Sep 24, 2017
walls01:
this is what you sent me the other time we chatted saying God sent himself, if not misquoting where did you find all you wrote above
walls01:
read your bible slowly and carefully.
Jesus said as the father sent me so I do you. please explain the meaning
MuttleyLaff:
The meaning is, that, just as God sent Himself, so does He send you
walls01:
you are not following.
the argument is if Jesus is same as God i.e one being
MuttleyLaff:
There is no argument whatsover and none anywhere for that matter, as regards to, whether or not Jesus is the same as God (i.e. one being) especially if you agree and accept that it is possible for God to simultaneously and concurrently be in heaven and on earth at any particular point in time
The above is the exact circumstances or background to how and why I typed that which you are referencing to

Did you watch the small video clip at all?
Did you see how Agent Smith was multiplying?
Is it far fetch or difficult to believe that God can do more and better than multiplying Himself like done by Agent Smith, in that film?
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Do You Preach To Someone Who Is Deeply Involved In Occultism And Sorcery?" by MuttleyLaff: 6:15pm On Sep 24, 2017
PastorAIO:
So much for all that great wisdom!!
Exactly.
He starved his focus and fed the distractions
Change your priorities and you change your life.
It's that simple
Christianity Etc › Re: The Essential Doctrines For All Christians To Believe by MuttleyLaff: 6:04pm On Sep 24, 2017
walls01:
Jesus said am the son of God,
Yes, because according to the facts or the exact meaning of the word son, He is, the Son of God
Mind you, as many as received Him, to such ordinary humans, have been given the power to be called sons of God too

walls01:
why men said he is God

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb8KZps4woA
Those arent brothers in the above video,
that's one person, Agent Smith, of the film Matrix
Just look at that! Beautiful isnt it?
That's child play for God to do

Plenty of reasons
1.) Scripture prophesised that God will come down to earth as a human being
2.) Jesus didnt correct people that addressed Him by saying: My Lord, My God
3.) God's personal name is no secret, Jesus, three times admitted that He bears this personal name
4.) God simultaneously can be in more one place at a time (i.e. be in Heaven and earth at the same time)

walls01:
the Bible has been misquoted
How do you mean misquoted?
Show what you have and give all you have that is misquoted
Do you mean mistranslated and not misquoted?
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Do You Preach To Someone Who Is Deeply Involved In Occultism And Sorcery?" by MuttleyLaff: 4:55pm On Sep 24, 2017
PastorAIO:
4For when Solomon was old his wives turned away his heart after other gods,
and his heart was not wholly true to the Lord his God,
as was the heart of David his father.
5For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddess of the Sidonians,
and after Milcom the abomination of the Ammonites.
6So Solomon did what was evil in the sight of the Lord
and did not wholly follow the Lord, as David his father had done.
7Then Solomon built a high place for Chemosh the abomination of Moab,
and for Molech the abomination of the Ammonites, on the mountain east of Jerusalem.

- 1 Kings 11:4-7
8And likewise did he for all his foreign wives, who burnt incense and sacrificed to their gods.
9And Yahweh was angry with Solomon,
because his heart was turned away from Yahweh,
the God of Israel, who had appeared to him twice,

- 1 Kings 11:8-9

What a tragedy...
Christianity Etc › Re: . by MuttleyLaff:
RighteousI:
I've been talking about this non human and human issue here but the fact is that I'm more liberal that many may think.
I personally don't discriminate against anyone, for example I own a business and I employ anyone that is qualified irrespective of religion.
some of my employees are probably occult non humans but I'm only concerned about their ability to perform the job.
but an issue like marriage is totally different, in marriage I have the right to say I only want a Christian human as a wife.
I have rightly turned down so many women, some of whom are daughters of millionaires because they don't fit the profile.

so therefore, all true, single, Christian, human women are free to show​ their interest.
but please if you don't fit the profile, don't apply.
if you are one of those women that don't fit the profile and you say "how will he know who I really am",
please you've been warned, stay away.
if you don't stay away, and you approach me, I will not let you know that I have discovered your true identity
,
instead I will play along.
I've been liberal enough, but when it comes to marriage, I have to get a true, Christian, human woman.
analice107:
Who finds who? You or her?
Both can

analice107:
Whoso findeth a wife findeth a good thing, and obtaineth favour of the LORD.
Proverbs:18:22

According to the Holy Spirit speaking through Solomon here,
you ought to find her by His leading, how come she is the one to find you?
Are you trying to turn the scriptures to suit you?
6So she went down to the threshing floor
and did according to all that her mother-in-law had commanded her.
7When Boaz had eaten and drunk and his heart was merry,
he went to lie down at the end of the heap of grain;
and she came secretly, and uncovered his feet and lay down.
8It happened in the middle of the night that the man was startled and bent forward;
and behold, a woman was lying at his feet
.
9He said, “Who are you?” And she answered, “I am Ruth your maid.
So spread your covering over your maid, for you are a close relative.”
10Then he said, “May you be blessed of the LORD, my daughter.
You have shown your last kindness to be better than the first by not going after young men, whether poor or rich.
11“Now, my daughter, do not fear. I will do for you whatever you ask,
for all my people in the city know that you are a woman of excellence.
12“Now it is true I am a close relative; however, there is a relative closer than I.
13“Remain this night, and when morning comes, if he will redeem you, good; let him redeem you.
But if he does not wish to redeem you, then I will redeem you, as the LORD lives. Lie down until morning.”
14So she lay at his feet until morning and rose before one could recognize another;
and he said, “Let it not be known that the woman came to the threshing floor.”

- Ruth 3:6-14

Ruth found Boaz, didnt she?

analice107:
Talk about arrogance.
Arrogance is unfounded, I think you've misunderstood the brother

Once bitten twice shy
The contemplation of God finding wives for anyone stopped, after Adam ungratefully accused God of finding a wife (i.e. the woman aka Eve) for him
The responsibility of finding wives, then shifted from God and fell upon the suitor(s)
And any man that manages to successfully find the Proverbs 31:10-31 woman for a wife, gets the blessing of Proverbs 18:22

God will lead to wives, but it is for the individual to find
(i.e. individual to become aware, realize, observe, notice, note, perceive, learn, detect that this is wife)

The bible has examples of how men found their wives
(e.g. Isaac, with help found Rebekah, Jacob found Rachel, King David found Abigail)

Women too find husbands, by letting admirers notice them or suitors find them
Ruth is a classic example, leading Boaz
and albeit an infamous example, is that of Bathsheba leading King David.

bennyann:
grin happy Sunday sis.
I don't think it's arrogance on his part. I believe he sees them all as non humans that's why grin
He is now bringing the bar low because he's finding it difficult to get a Christian human grin
So please help him with advice
Many humans leaders as you see dem ♬♪♫
Na different disguise dem dey oh
Animal in human skin
Animal e put-u tie oh
Animal e wear agbada
Animal e put-u suit-u ♫ ♬ ♩ ♪

Beasts of no nation - Egbe ke gbe, na bad society
Beasts of no nation - Egbe ke gbe
Beasts of no nation - Eturu gbe ke♩ ♪ ♫ ♬ ♭

- Fela Anikulapo-Kuti
Beast of No Nation chorus Released 1989

People parade in different guises
OP simply is saying, he has the gift of discerning of spirits, so all or any spirit wife should stay clear and give him a wide berth
Beasts of no nation. Egbe ke gbe, na bad society
Christianity Etc › Re: The Essential Doctrines For All Christians To Believe by MuttleyLaff: 2:53pm On Sep 24, 2017
DeSepiero:
I'm wondering, 'is there any verse of the new testament which quotes Jesus directly referring to himself as God?'
Yes, there apparently is a verse of the new testament which quotes Jesus directly referring to himself as God
Just found where and it isnt John 8:58
cc iliyande, walls01
Christianity Etc › Re: There Is Only ONE God by MuttleyLaff: 2:53pm On Sep 24, 2017
Peacefullove:
You just confirmed you people are extremely confused hypocritical beings
This your last post has just confirmed to me that, you're more confused than a chameleon in a bag of skittles

Peacefullove:
Those who worshipped the human Jesus according to you have committed d aberrant Behaviour right?
No, you are wrong
as there isnt anything abberant in worshipping God that Jesus is

Notice, I wrote, worship an ordinary human being
Is Jesus an ordinary human?

Peacefullove:
Now u are getting the point.

Apply the bolded to Jesus too, was worshipped as a god NOT God as you interpreted in your first post
27Then Jesus said to Thomas,
“Put your finger here and look at My hands.
Reach out your hand and put it into My side. Stop doubting and believe.”
28Thomas replied, “My Lord and my God!”

- John 20:27-28

frosbel, the OP posted:
Christians might be committing idolatry by worshipping the same Jesus WHO said;
and used Luke 4:8 below as a reference verse:
"It is written: 'Worship the Lord your God and serve him only"
- Luke 4:8

Sorry I cant say same to you that you're getting the point
but only can manage to say, shame on frosbel, the OP, and you, for staying ignorantly the same

King Nebuchadnezzar tried worshipping Daniel as a god (i.e. a deity)
but Jesus is worshipped as God (i.e. the Deity)
Stop doubting. Change, to believe, Jesus is God

Peacefullove:
Your Accumulated lies were not recorded Bro
The king answered unto Daniel, and said,
Of a truth it is, that your God is a God of gods,
and a Lord of kings, and a revealer of secrets,
seeing thou couldest reveal this secret

- Daniel 2:47

It's a matter of, connect the dots and see the detail

Now answer this.
You agree and accept that Daniel must have done or said something for the king to have answered back in Daniel 2:47?
So what happened and/or what kind of conversation took place, prior to Daniel 2:47,
that made King Nebuchadnezzar, at Daniel 2:47, answer Daniel back, and answered him back particularly, in the manner of Daniel 2:47?
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Do You Preach To Someone Who Is Deeply Involved In Occultism And Sorcery?" by MuttleyLaff: 2:53pm On Sep 24, 2017
PastorAIO:
And Moses was instructed in all the wisdom of the Egyptians, and he was mighty in his words and deeds.
- Act 7:22
Solomon's wisdom was greater than the wisdom of all the people of the East,
and greater than all the wisdom of Egypt

- 1 Kings 4:30

The wisdom of the East and all wisdom of Egypt is no match for the wisdom that comes directly from God or that has God as the only source
Celebrities › Re: Adekunle Gold Signs Deal With Revolution Properties (Photos) by MuttleyLaff: 12:55pm On Sep 24, 2017
jelil01:
Today a man knocked on my door
and asked for a small donation towards the local swimming pool.
I gave him a glass of water.
You, tight arsed stingy grin grin grin
Music/Radio › Re: A Review Of "Ponmile" By Reminisce And Its Reference To Domestic Violence by MuttleyLaff:
OEPHIUS:
Just when I thought my song of this month is Cardi B's Bodak Yellow, I stumbled on one that blew me out of the water.

"Ponmile" by Reminisce is great. The audio, cool and then I saw the video. I was enjoying it until it got to a point and I hated the song.
I hated the song not because the song was not good and all but the video passes a subtle message that made my entire body revolt.

It featured Adekola Odunlade and Lota Chukwu, great acting by the two of them except for some flaws.

1. When he slapped her in 2:58, I am pretty sure he slapped her left cheek so why was she holding her right cheek?
Oh well……maybe reverbration happened but the second issue is my main issue.

2. The song goes
"I love you no more, ko ma kin se'se ooooo (I love you no more is not a sin)
If you don't love me again, please let me know
Malo je kin ka e mo corner pele brother Samu (dont let it be that I find you cheating with some guy)
Olewu ooo; its very dangerous"

For a song that carried such words, I didnt expect it to have a domestic violence scene.
Yeah yeah, he had a disclaimer in the end about how he doesnt believe in DV
but isnt it weird that all through the song, the man was keeping in the madness his wife was throwing at him.
He was keeping his demons chained until it got to the part where Reminisce said cheating for her will be dangerous.

You are in a country where domestic violence (especially against women) is high
and you come out to do a video that subtly promotes it (the disclaimer doesnt do it please).

I told a friend that I will prefer if the video showed that the man imagined the entire domestic violence part and he just snapped out of it
and decided to look at her and say "I need a divorce"
not end where the man raise a machete, and changed his mind about killing her.

We know the man never actually proved that she was cheating just suspicions
and he started acting weird which was what made the woman go psycho.

Before you go "but it is just a song; an artistic impression",
please I have heard where peoole use songs to relate to their personal lives
and musicians should try harder to make things better not make it look okay and then do a disclaimer.

Olamide's "Story for the gods" and the date rape all over the song is another source of concern but issue for another day.

By the way, here is a video of the song

h ttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3vDQQSvJf8

Have a great day

CC mynd44
Lalasticlala
Ishilove
Not justifying infidelity nor cordoning any form of domestic abuse, battering or family violence
but you seem to have chosen to omit from your analysis/critic, the twist or surprise ending of the music and entertainment video,
and that's especially where it particularly and dramatically ended with the following dialogue:

Man (Adekola Odunlade):
What's your problem?
You're very stupid. Go and call my dad


Woman (Lota Chukwu):
You are impotent!

Reality had not lived up to her expectations
Moral of the video: Expectation feeds frustration
Christianity Etc › Re: There Is Only ONE God by MuttleyLaff: 8:35am On Sep 23, 2017
Peacefullove:
and here they arrive, I don't blame you.
I blame those translating ur bible with biased mind.
Since worship makes a person God
Blame yourself, for not recognising, that worshipping an ordinary man or human being, as a god or God, is an aberrant behaviour

Peacefullove:
do you accept Daniel is God since Babylonian King worshipped him according to ur bible?
46Then the king Nebuchadnezzar fell upon his face, and worshipped Daniel,
and commanded that they should offer an oblation and sweet odours unto him.
47The king answered unto Daniel, and said,
Of a truth it is, that your God is a God of gods,
and a Lord of kings, and a revealer of secrets,
seeing thou couldest reveal this secret.

- Daniel 2:46-47

King Nebuchadnezzar worshipped Daniel as a god
and didnt, like you've intrepreted, worshipped Daniel, as God

Now, if you believed and accepted that Daniel is God, because King Nebuchadnezzar worshipped him
then you've basically demonstrated a lazy understanding of what transpired in Daniel 2:46-47

Re-read Daniel 2:46-47 again, and you'll find out that the Daniel 2:46b part wasnt even carried out.
Why? How?
How do we know Daniel 2:46b was not carried out?

25When Peter entered, Cornelius met him, fell at his feet, and worshiped him.
26But Peter helped him up and said, "Stand up! I myself am also a man."

- Acts 10:25-26

Daniel is always behaving in the same way
Always put God first, and never himself first
and would never allow himself to be worshipped as a god or God

Well, between Daniel 2:46 and Daniel 2:47, just like Peter in Acts 10:26 did to Cornelius,
Daniel, helped the King up, deflected himself from being worshipped as a god or God
and said other things not recorded, to the king,
all which the king agreed with, this judging by the king's response, recorded in Daniel 2:47

King Nebuchadnezzar before getting back his senses, was a pathological worshipper of idols
and suffered from a short memory span because soon after,
he is, in Daniel 3:4-5, decreeing that all should worship as God, a golden image he set up
Christianity Etc › Re: There Is Only ONE God by MuttleyLaff: 8:35am On Sep 23, 2017
frosbel2:
You are quoting from a book which was handed down to you by the WHITE MAN
A true racist speaks

Yeah I know, it is the same book handed down by the WHITE MAN, you earlier quoted from
besides, its just like history proves that the white man is a devil.

If Pharaoh was used to hide the Israelites until they became a nation to posseess Canaan
If the devil is used to bring out the worst of sin
then what's the fuss about a book which was handed down by the WHITE MAN

I dont care whether the book was handed down by a white man
I dont care whether the book was handed down by a black man

All I care is, it's a book authored by God
and dont care whichever ghostwriter, God used to hand down the book by
Christianity Etc › Re: The Middle Path by MuttleyLaff: 8:33am On Sep 23, 2017
petra1:
THIS IS INITIATION INTO WITCRAFT !!
It's a Trojan horse thread
Christianity Etc › Re: The Middle Path by MuttleyLaff: 8:33am On Sep 23, 2017
sukkot:
OK sarrassin and muttleylaff and billionaire and the rest of yall astral travelling cosmic niggas,
we handed the thread back to yall because it seemed like we were an aberration in this beautiful nicely woven astral journey being depicted and painted,
and its a journey and tale that does trigger mind-gasms and soul-gasms, maybe even orgasms tongue .
it is enthralling, no doubt. our interjections seemed to be bringing down the frequency of the thread,
we could be likened to the fly in the soup, but ggadayummmm since yall got the thread back 2 days ago yall still on page 43?
it seems there is a limit on how much can be said about the 72 demons of goetia grin grin .
anyway all am tryna say is WE TAKING OVER grin grin
Maybe the "trigger mind-gasms and soul-gasms, maybe even orgasms", will happen when tune is changed to that of the 72 virgins
Just be careful what type of virgins, there really are

sukkot:
lmao I was just joking bro.
but ermm you do have you a gold-mine of a thread here. all the souls are drawn here.
I wonder what incarnations and rituals you made before opening this thread that draws many souls in
lol
No incarnations or rituals. It's the Pied Piper flute
When "the" tune is played, the "rascal souls" come out in their droves

Sarassin:
Yeah I know. Hahaha talking about souls and rituals,
you know people will do as they please.
I always say ..."and lead me not into temptation for I can find the way myself.."
The Rat Rascal-Catcher of Hamelin Nairaland's Religion section has spoken:
"and lead me not into temptation for I can find the way myself.."
but then you'll have yourself to blame

It's no gainsaying that this kind of curiosity kills the cat
and dont be deceived that satisfaction would bring it back
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Do You Preach To Someone Who Is Deeply Involved In Occultism And Sorcery?" by MuttleyLaff: 8:33am On Sep 23, 2017
PastorAIO:
occult (adj.) Look up occult at Dictionary.com
1530s, "secret, not divulged," from Middle French occulte and directly from Latin occultus "hidden, concealed, secret," past participle of occulere "cover over, conceal," from assimilated form of ob "over" (see ob-) + a verb related to celare "to hide," from PIE root *kel- (1) "to cover, conceal, save." Meaning "not apprehended by the mind, beyond the range of understanding" is from 1540s.
The association with the supernatural sciences (magic, alchemy, astrology, etc.) dates from 1630s.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=occult



And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:

Mark 4:11


He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
Matt 13:11


Deuteronomy 29:29
"The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our sons forever, that we may observe all the words of this law.


Daniel 2:22
"It is He who reveals the profound and hidden things; He knows what is in the darkness, And the light dwells with Him.


Amos 3:7
Surely the Lord GOD does nothing Unless He reveals His secret counsel To His servants the prophets.
20So Moses and Aaron did even as the LORD had commanded. And he lifted up the staff and struck the water that was in the Nile, in the sight of Pharaoh and in the sight of his servants, and all the water that was in the Nile was turned to blood.
21The fish that were in the Nile died, and the Nile became foul, so that the Egyptians could not drink water from the Nile. And the blood was through all the land of Egypt.
22But the magicians of Egypt did the same with their secret arts; and Pharaoh's heart was hardened, and he did not listen to them, as the LORD had said.

- Exodus 2:20-22

Not all secrets come from God, as can be seen from the first of the signs and wonders in the land of Egypt, the magicians made an exact copy of
Christianity Etc › Re: There Is Only ONE God by MuttleyLaff: 6:56am On Sep 19, 2017
frosbel2:
There is only ONE GOD who ALONE deserves worship, any other worship is IDOLATRY.
Only the creator of heaven and earth deserves Man's dedicated, undiluted and complete worship.
All other gods are FAKE.
Church members who keep singing praises to Jesus instead of God are committing an abomination
because Jesus said that ONLY God deserves worship.
We have replaced the one and true God with Jesus and Mohammed,
no wonder there is so much confusion all over the place.
frosbel2:
"You must not have any other god but me"
- Exodus 20:3


Christians might be committing idolatry by worshipping the same Jesus WHO said;
"It is written: 'Worship the Lord your God and serve him only"
Luke 4:8


It is scary, but Christians could actually be displeasing God by their worship of a MAN,
which may be why churches are full of madness and confusion.
1After Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea,
during the time of King Herod, Magi from the east arrived in Jerusalem,
2asking, “Where is the One who has been born King of the Jews?
We saw His star in the east and have come to worship Him.”

- Matthew 2:1-2

8So they hurried away from the tomb in fear and great joy, and ran to tell His disciples.
9Suddenly Jesus met them and said, “Greetings!”
They came to Him, grasped His feet, and worshiped Him.
10“Do not be afraid,” said Jesus.
“Go, tell My brothers to go to Galilee. There they will see Me.”…

- Matthew 28:8-10

The man saw Jesus at a distance.
So he ran [to Jesus], bowed down in front of Him, (i.e. worshipped Him)

- Mark 5:6

When you're idle in Jesus Christ's work, you sooner or later become active in the devil's work
Christianity Etc › Re: The Middle Path by MuttleyLaff:
Dcholeric:
Ok. Just as his father?
Yes

Dcholeric:
So why should he die for us?
https://i65.tinypic.com/29sjh1.jpg
Him dying fixes the problem(s)
Look at those screenshots above
You are familiar with the dialogue box messages, why they pop up and how they get fixed, aren't you?
We are the "blank Word documents" or the "blank Outlook email messages"

Dcholeric:
Why not just correct all the wrongs without dying?
The wrongs are corrected with a new template
A single grain of wheat doesn't produce anything unless it is planted in the ground and dies.
If it dies, it will produce a lot of grain

Dcholeric:
Ok.
Is God (in the bible) also all knowing?
Yes, God (in the bible and outside the bible) is also all knowing

Dcholeric:
If he is...why did he create human knowing that many will fail?
God is too creative to baulk at creating humans

If the shoe were the other way round and you be God, bet, you, knowing well advance what you know, will definitely shy away from going ahead creating human
This is what sets God apart from any of us,
Love Him or hate Him but you have to admire God's "chutzpah"
God is so confident, He knows He has everything under control, so He goes ahead with creating human

Dcholeric:
(i.e judas betrayed jesus....
why did God create him knowing he will betray jesus
and after which he is still going to send him to hell?)
because all creation, including Judas, have the right to be created

Dcholeric:
As you said God (as in the bible) can do anything and everything.
Did he create judas to betray jesus and then after to comit suicide? ....
(after which he also intend to send him to hell)
You cant walk with God, holding hands with the devil
He created Judas right, as much as He created Pharaoh etcetera also right
but shift happens, when priorities get set wrong

Dcholeric:
Did he intentionally sacrifice his son?
Yes, He intentionally gave Himself up as sacrifice, proxy His Son

Dcholeric:
Does not these actions sounds rather heartless considering the fact that he has the power to do all things?
No, they dont
God can see things that you dont see, and these actions might sound or look rather heartless now
but one day, when God's whole plan unfolds, you'll see what God is up to
so, the more you know about these actions, you will agree too they arent heartless at all

Dcholeric:
Ok.
Just as i said before...the heaven i know in the bible is perfect.....why will God not make man and earth just as he intends to make heaven?
That's the goal

Dcholeric:
If he knew man was going to fail...why create man and earth?
It is His prerogative, that's why

Dcholeric:
I know hell as a place of everlasting punishment for sinners
and heaven as a place of everlasting reward/paradise for belivers
Heaven is a honeymoon destination
all are returning back to earth

Dcholeric:
Please i ask with humilty..
in what manner is hell and heaven meant to be?
Hell, really, is a Greek concept, off Greek mythology origins
I dont want to bore you with more details about it or heaven

Dcholeric:
I assume the judge is God (as in the bible)
Yes, you do.
There is free legal aid to take advantage off there,
but what if I tell you some will rather be damned than accept the free Representation

Dcholeric:
He created some to fail and some to succeed and send the sinners to hell and belivers to heaven?
No, He created all, to have an expected end

Dcholeric:
Money rituals (human sacrifice)
Goodness.
There'll hardly be plenty of money to be had that way
and you also lose your soul.
For what? Nothing, nada, zilch

Are you aware that money does fail?
Lets for the sake of discussion, say you turn up trumps with the money ritual totally jazz thing

What that kind of money can't buy are: manners, morals, respect, character, class, commom sense, patience, integrity and love
What that kind of money can buy are: computer but not brain; food but not appetite; house but not a home; medicine but not health; acquintance but not friends; obedience but not loyalty/faithfulness; sex but not love, etcetera

Dcholeric:
To communicate effectively to God.
To know the ways of God better.
To serve God better.
To live life better.
Hmm, interesting

Dcholeric:
Please do not be offended by any of my reply as i do not intend to sound offensive
No offense. None taken
You're a brave man but walking away from something unhealthy like money rituals (human sacrifice) will be braver
even if you stumble a little on your way out the door

Dcholeric:
Thank you.
No, but again, you, thank you
Christianity Etc › Re: The Middle Path by MuttleyLaff: 7:21pm On Sep 17, 2017
Sarassin:
Absolutely, shall we say Cognac and Belgian Chocolate Truffles then..
Almost a kindred spirit
as I prefer dark or black chocolates

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