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 Christianity Etc › Re: Why Has Jesus Christ Always Been Made To Look Like A White Man? by MuttleyLaff: 8:04am On Jun 06, 2020 |
jimyjames:"For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life." - John 3:16 |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Why Has Jesus Christ Always Been Made To Look Like A White Man? by MuttleyLaff: 8:02am On Jun 06, 2020 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Why Has Jesus Christ Always Been Made To Look Like A White Man? by MuttleyLaff: 8:01am On Jun 06, 2020*. Modified: 8:22am On Jun 06, 2020 |
jimyjames:They were angry towards Moses because they felt threatened by Zipporah, taking on the role of a priestess. The apple doesnt fall far from the tree. jimyjames:"9Jethro was delighted to hear about all the good things the Lord had done for Israel in rescuing them from the hand of the Egyptians. 10 He said, “Praise be to the Lord, who rescued you from the hand of the Egyptians and of Pharaoh, and who rescued the people from the hand of the Egyptians. 11 Now I know that the Lord is greater than all other gods, for he did this to those who had treated Israel arrogantly.”" - Exodus 18:9-11 Jethro was repentant, a godly man and YAH, is a universal God to the whole wide world |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Why Has Jesus Christ Always Been Made To Look Like A White Man? by MuttleyLaff: 7:28am On Jun 06, 2020*. Modified: 8:08am On Jun 06, 2020 |
khia:You that don't know your left from your right, wants to talk of ancient times. What do you think, you've been readin, hmm. Do you really think I am sharing with you white man's regurgitate ni? You're just as racist as they come. Why aren't you typing on a black man's manufactured smartphone, tablet or laptop? khia:[img]https://s5/images/MuttleyLaffDrinkRollEye.gif[/img] Did you learn that bullpiss from donnie? Fyi, the reason why Aaron and Miriam gave out to Moses was because they felt threatened of Zipporah, her being a priestess. You didnt know that bit, did you, lmao. Listen dahling, you're too small to my number, so until your brain reverts to default Manufacturer's factory settings, please don't comment on my posts again when concerning black Israelites, black Jesus or white Jesus, OK?. Its your Ọga Mr d, me and who get mata khia:[img]https://s7/images/mould.gif[/img] White mould on a slice of bread "When the cloud removed from over the tent, behold, Miriam was leprous, like snow. And Aaron turned toward Miriam, and behold, she was leprous." - Numbers 12:10 You are typing as if like, you didnt attend tertiary institution, on top of behaving as if you are biblical illiterate. Will you stop reading more than its necessary, into what Numbers 12:10 is saying  Numbers 12:10, clearly is informing that, Miriam had a dubious, perhaps some fungus or mould on her skin, prolly all over her body too that looked like snow. Now, sit down and get some free proper education. Fyi, the reason why Numbers 12:10 described this " tsaraath" formed on Miriam as looking like snow is because it was a furry soft, white growth that's similar to what develops on old food, like we see on ẹba, bread et cetera and that looks like flakes of snow. Simple. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Why Didn't You Go To Church Today? by MuttleyLaff: 6:43am On Jun 06, 2020 |
kkins25:I don't suffer gladly fake arsed, Israelite wannabe, plastic Bantu African, falsely parading themselves to be an authentic Israelite that they aren't. Posters like donnie, instead of correctly addressing the skin colour of Jesus is obsessed with changing Him from white skinned to black skinned, when Jesus isn't either 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Why Has Jesus Christ Always Been Made To Look Like A White Man? by MuttleyLaff: 6:31am On Jun 06, 2020 |
khia:This is what happens, when a blind gets a blind guide like donnie, to lead him/her. khia: aadoiza:"Then Miriam and Aaron spoke against Moses because of the Cushite woman he had married (for he had married an Ethiopian woman)." - Numbers 12:1 The Mediterranean Sea is surrounded by 22 countries from 3 different continents including Africa, Asia, and Europe. Now note that in some countries along the coast of the Mediterranean Sea, there are people who spend more time in the sun than in the shade and vice versa. This means, it'll lead to darker skin tones for those who are more exposed to the sun. The implication, is there's a lot of variety in how people look. It can be confusing trying to nail down exactly what Mediterranean skin tone is and what it looks like. What exactly is the shade? Is it the same as olive skin tone or reddish brown skin tone? Mediterranean skin tone ranges from cream to light brown to moderate brown, and tans easily. It can also have yellowish, olive or golden undertones. [img]https://s7/images/MediterraneanSkintone.png[/img] The below image shows the Fitzpatrick Skin Type Classification Scale. Mediterranean skin tone is type III, IV, and V on the below Fitzpatrick scale. There are two forms of melanin (i.e. melanin, is, pigment that gives the skin color), one's eumelanin and the other's pheomelanin. Eumelanin comes in primarily brown and black hues, (i.e. black brown) while pheomelanin appears as red and yellow hues (i.e. yellowish red/reddish brown) Mediterranean people, same as other West Eurasians have a different type of melanin compared to lets say us "Black" people. [img]https://s7/images/IRAQmap.png[/img] Note where Iraq is positioned (i.e. not inside Africa) Back in the day, Abram/Abraham came from Ur, where a variety of ethnic groups inhabited ancient Mesopotamia back then (i.e. modern day Iraq, in the Middle East) They would include different Semitic groups (e.g. Akkadians, Amorites, Assyrians et cetera) and non-Semitic groups (e.g. Sumerians, Kassites, Persians) Now, here is the thing, none of these would typically be thought of as "black", however, and most are traceable to distinctly non-African roots. The etymology of Adam, is a combination of "soil"/"ground," ( i.e. adama), "red" (i.e. edom ) and "blood" (i.e. dam) and a quick reading of Genesis, will tell you that man was formed in Iraq as seen in the above picture and not in Africa. Now, the fact is, the oldest, the ancient name of africa, and the only one, of indigenous origin, was Alkebulan, where among the many other names, Alkebulan, which incidentally means "mother of mankind" or "garden of Eden," previously had, were: Ethiopia, Corphye, Ortegia, Libya and of course, Africa - the latest of all. donnie:[img]https://s7/images/Equator.png[/img] I am sure the red equator line is visible & people know the implication of it I think it will be hilarious should any believe that Adam, who was created in Iraq will be a black man. (i.e. or east of Eden/Alkebulan) IMHO, it will only be a dimwit, who would come out to say the Israelites, who are in the Mediterranean sea region were and/or would be black skinned. Adam and the Israelites are further away from the equator, as seen I above picture, hence it'll be illogical to assert they are black-skinned or they are white-skinned. Iraq and Mediterranean sea region are not in Africa. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Why Has Jesus Christ Always Been Made To Look Like A White Man? by MuttleyLaff: 6:26am On Jun 06, 2020*. Modified: 9:39am On Jun 06, 2020 |
donnie:How long will you continue to pick random quotes out of apocrypha books to support your absurd arbitrary perspective and obsession that Jesus is black-skinned. How many times do you need told that, Jesus and the Israelites are neither black-skinned or white-skinned. They aren't Africans, for crying out loud. donnie:Why don't you try and push me further, to see if I'll truly bring out red cows or halfcasts, which according to you, are a mixture of Moors (who were black) with European. Smh, typing as if like an olodo nla, rapata, upon twenty. Posting as if like a big fat zero over twenty airhead. Smh. donnie:You and aadoiza are lopsidedly awakening to truth. It is incongruent to argue that black Jews, are the original Israelites of biblical old. No way. The only way you'll have a black Jew, is from him/her being a mongrelised Israelite. Of course, some traces of Judaism indeed, are for half a millennium, being practised on African soil by indigenous Africans, but thats not a licence for committing thievery and claiming to be what you are not. That is called identity theft, parading yourself as Israelites, you donnie, an African, smh. donnie:"Come now, let’s settle this,” says the LORD. “Though your sins are like scarlet (i.e. red), I will make them as white as snow. Though they are red like crimson, I will make them as white as wool." - Isaiah 1:18 "The hair of His head was white like wool, as white as snow, and His eyes were like a blazing fire." - Revelation 1:14 "I kept looking Until thrones were set up, And the Ancient of Days took His seat; His vesture was like white snow And the hair of His head like pure wool. His throne was ablaze with flames, Its wheels were a burning fire." - Daniel 7:9 Revelation 1:14 and Daniel 7:9, are not at all talking of the texture of Jesus' hair, but rather they both are talking about the colour, comparing it with the colour of of a white wool sheep. We see similar language used in Isaiah 1:18, where talking about sin, God is saying, He "will make them as white as wool". The colour references mentioned in Isaiah 1:18, Revelation 1:14 and Daniel 7:9, is referring to the purity, freedom from blemish, no black spots, no pollution. The white as used in Revelation 1:14 and Daniel 7:9 is an emblem of purity and honour. Whiteness in that context, is a symbol of venerableness and respect because of years and wisdom. The whiteness of the wool has nothing to do texture of the sheep wool, but instead is referring to the celestial splendour or brightness of the hair and air around Him. "His body was like beryl (i.e. a golden brown to yellow colour, a variety of treatments may make topaz, wine red, pale gray, reddish-orange) His face like the appearance of lightning, His eyes like torches of fire, His arms and feet like burnished bronze (i.e. yellowish-brown alloy of copper) in color, and the sound of His words like the voice of a multitude" - Daniel 10:6 "His feet were like polished bronze refined in a furnace, and His voice was like the roar of many waters" - Revelation 1:15 The is reddish-brown/golden brown to yellow colour is consistent in Daniel 10:6 and Revelation 1:15. The body, the arms and feet are not black, are not white, but are reddish-brown/golden brown to yellow colour. The 2nd-century Rabbi Ishmael described the Jewish skin color like this: “The Children of Israel—may I be their atonement! —are [mostly] like boxwood, neither dark nor light, but intermediate (i.e. like the boxwood tree (eshkeroa), neither black nor white, but in between)” (i.e. refer to Mishnah Negaim 2:1 - Sefaria) [img]https://s7/images/Pantocrator2Spain10thCentury.jpg[/img] Christ Pantocrator (Christ in Glory) depicted in this 10th-century Byzantine enamel plaque in the Museo Lazaro Galdiano, Madrid, Spain https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4a/Spas_vsederzhitel_sinay.jpg/310px-Spas_vsederzhitel_sinay.jpg Christ, the Saviour (Pantocrator), a 6th-century encaustic icon from Saint Catherine's Monastery, Mount Sinai. The oldest surviving panel icon of Christ Pantocrator, encaustic on panel, circa 6th century, showing the appearance of Jesus that is still immediately recognised today. [img]https://s7/images/JewishMenRomanCoin.jpg[/img] Jewish men on Roman coins Jewish men with the “philosopher” look are portrayed on Roman coins issued by the Emperors Vespasian and Titus. The Romans destroyed Jerusalem and annihilated the Israelites in 70 AD. It actually was Titus under the leadership of his father, who was the conqueror of Jerusalem on that fateful 70 AD. He succeeded his father Vespasian upon his death. Pope Alexander VI, born Rodrigo de Borja, was Pope from 11 August 1492 until his death in 1503. I am sure, those reddish-brown Mediterranean images of Jesus from the 6th and 10th centuries, couldn't have been commissioned by Pope Alexander VI from the future 14th century that he was born, lmao. "5Dark am I, yet lovely, daughters of Jerusalem, dark like the tents of Kedar, like the tent curtains of Solomon. 6Do not stare at me because I am dark, because I am darkened by the sun. My mother’s sons were angry with me and made me take care of the vineyards; my own vineyard I had to neglect." - Song of Solomon 1:5-6 "My beloved is white and ruddy (i.e. reddish brown skinned), the chiefest among ten thousand." - Song of Solomon 5:10 The Israelite shepherdess was that dark reddish brown skinned (i.e. upper end of the olive-skinned/reddish brown spectrum) she felt, she had to apologise to the other light reddish brown skinned women of Jerusalem for her darkness. Notice at Song of Solomon 5:10, the darkened by the sun shepherdess, is here, talking of Sulaiman/Solomon (pbuh), that her lover, Sulaiman/Solomon (pbuh) is white and ruddy (i.e. reddish brown skinned). The same way the mention white or whiteness does not mean skin colour, but means something. It means something abstract, so as in Isaiah 1:18, Revelation 1:14 and Daniel 7:9, the white mentioned in Song of Solomon 5:10, frankly means radiance, magnificence, brilliance, intense brightness of light et cetera. It never in any of the contexts is used in reference to skin colour or hair texture, as donnie would like to hoodwink the easily impressed with his eisegesis, pseudo history and with pictures that don't start earlier than the 14th century. In spite of all I've written here, while still writing this post, I still, am reading khia, typed below, that Jesus was a black prophet with white wooly hair and skin like burnt brass. What a pity. Smh. Ham had gradually been identified for many people, as the ancestor of Africans, as he was, for instance, in the influential writing of Leo Africanus and so when Willem Ten Rhyne of Deventer, arrived at the Cape in 1686, he wondered about the origins of the Khoisan people who were living there, asking himself: “Did these people spring originally from Ham, the son of Noah or some Arabs of the stock of Shem who entered Africa later on?" Khoisan, by the way, is a catch-all term for the "non-Bantu" indigenous skilled hunter-gatherers and nomadic farmers people who lived off the land Southern Africa, combining the Khoekhoen (formerly ''Khoikhoi'') and the San or Sakhoen. [quote author=Black Jews in Africa and the Americas, by Tudor Parfitt, page 42-43]... before the 1840s no European had set foot on Igbo-speaking territory. A strik- ing illustration of this came in 1841–1842, when there was an official British expedition up the Niger, the aim of which was to spread Christianity, establish commerce, and conclude antislavery treaties with the chiefs along its banks. William Simpson, who was part of the expedition, explained that he had been asked to take with him two letters, written by London rabbis, both of them in bilingual Hebrew and English format, which he was to hand to the spiritual leaders of any Jewish communities the expedition might encounter along the banks of the Niger. That two busy rabbis should take the time to compose letters to lost Jewish groups in the African interior is proof enough that the discourse surrounding Jews in Africa was taken very seriously, even by experts on Jews. The “Portuguese rabbi at London”— probably David Aaron de Sola (1796–1860)—wrote to his putative African coreligionists: “Peace to our Brethren the children of Israel in all place of their habitations. I the servant of the Lord named David the small is he who writes this in order to inquire after your welfare and the number of the souls, and wishes also to know your occupation and what books are to be found amongst you after the conclusion of the Talmud, and to what customs you are adhered. All this let me know well and clear explained through this man who goes towards you to explore and search the places of your habitations.” Other members of the expedition included James Frederick Schön, who was much taken by the Supreme Being in the apparently mono- theistic religious system of the Yoruba, and Samuel Ajayi Crowther (c. 1809–1891), a former slave freed by the British, who went on to be the first African Anglican bishop and would eventually translate the Bible into Yoruba. Other members of the expedition also made reference to seemingly Jewish customs—circumcision was one—that were found among the peoples of the Niger. The expedition up the Niger was a failure: it did not succeed in its primary tasks, and most of its members died of fever. The expedition also failed to discover any hitherto unknown Jewish communities, although Jewish influences were found aplenty[/quote][quote author=The New York Sun of January 29, 1929, reported]“Mr. M. Shapiro, a mild mannered Jewish businessman, stopped to chat a few moments with his kosher butcher. The butcher was chuckling: ‘Funny thing,’ he explained, ‘Some colored people came in this morning and wanted some kosher meat. Real Negro people from up in Harlem. They say they are Jews!’ He laughed.”[/quote]This Black Judaism thing, that black Jew donnie, is fixated on, actually is an original idea of William Saunders Crowdy, born August 11, 1847 and died August 4, 1908. Crowdy claimed to have had several visions in which he was told "that Blacks were descendants of the ten lost tribes of Israel." He proceeded to create the Church of God and Saints of Christ and is regarded as a founder of the Black Hebrew Israelite movement (i.e. BHI) As said, Crowdy claimed to have had a vision and a revelation. It was a revelation that was calculated to help African Americans avoid the stigma of racial inferiority: it was the revelation that blacks were in fact descended from the Israelites. So the reason why is known as one of the earliest Hebrew Israelites in the United States, he actually established the Church of God and Saints of Christ in 1896 after his claim to have had visions telling him "that Blacks were descendants of the twelve lost tribes of Israel" [quote author=As J. Dorman puts it]Crowdy began to systematically adopt the rituals of the Hebrew Bible, beginning with the Seventh Day Sabbath and continuing with the Passover and the other festivals of the Hebrew calendar. Through their joint efforts, Bishops Christian and Crowdy seeded the African American religious landscape with the conviction that the ancient Israelites were Black, and created thousands of believers who had adopted some of the rites of the Hebrew Bible to go along with the conviction that the Hebrew and Christian Bibles were describing their own ancestors. In most cases, the Judaic groups that arose in Northern cities before and after the First World War were lineal descendants of Bishop Crowdy’s Church of God and Saints of Christ or Bishop Chris- tian’s Church of the Living God[/quote]www.nairaland.com/attachments/11669394_fbimg15913415948570381_jpeg39375241e75894261b8ac6d2cfafa5ee Head of Cushite exile/exile of Cush/exile from Sudan/Nubian who lived in what is Southern Egypt captured prisoner [img]https://s7/images/Nubians.png[/img] Egyptians and sitting down Nubian slaves "For the king of Assyria will take away the Egyptians and Ethiopians as prisoners (i.e. the Cushite exiles/the exiles of Cush/exiles from Sudan/Nubians who lived in what is Southern Egypt) He will make them walk naked and barefoot, both young and old, their buttocks bared, to the shame of Egypt" - Isaiah 20:4 The first picture above uploaded by donnie, is not an Israelite, as he would like to make others believe, but rather is an Cushite/Nubian, just as with the second picture above, that shows Egyptians and Nubian slaves. It is a black-skinned Cushite exile/exile of Cush/exile from Sudan/Nubian who lived in what is Southern Egypt that donnie is portraying to be an Israelite. [img]https://s7/images/1576010589933.jpg[/img] Egypt, Libya, Sudan, Ethiopia, Iraq and Israel tucked away in there Cush or Kush was, is the eldest son of Ham, who was one of the three sons of Noah. Cush/Ethiopia/Sudan was the brother of Canaan/pre-Israelite inhabitants, Mizraim/Egypt and Phut/Ancient Libya, and the father of the biblical Nimrod mentioned in the "Table of Nations" Cush/Cushite, incidentally, found its way into Greek in the LXX as "Ethiopian" (i.e. LXX is the abbreviation for Septuagint or The Greek Old Testament) Just because Israelites were slaves, doesn’t make them black. The picture donnie plastered is not a picture of an Israelite. Israelites are not black skinned. Skin colours doesn't bother God. Just come to Him as you are. God is more interested in bloodline, not a race, not colour of your skin, not if you are black, white, green, purple, or blue. The Graeco-Roman Period (332 BC -395 AD) marked the end of Persian rule over Egypt. The Persians (i.e. who came from what is now Iran) were defeated by the Greek conqueror, Alexander the Great, who occupied Egypt and founded a new capital city at Alexandria, so your picture titled Terracotta head of Semite, marked "Hebrew" by Petrie, is an Israelite, but not a black man. Now about the Messiah, that you say, he was a black man with wooly hair and skin like burnt brass or bronze. HERESY! He is not a black man with wooly hair. If you really want to know how an Israelite looks like, go read Song of Solomon 5:10-16, the verses describes Solomon, a real, bona fide proper, true born Hebrew Israelite King, lmao, not the fake arsed, Israelite wannabe, plastic Bantu African, donnie falsely parading himself to be an authentic Israelite that he isn't. I keep telling you baba d, that I have more than I say, and speak less than I know. donnie, you know I am 24/7/365 watching & have my eyes locked on you. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Payment Of Tithes: The Letters And The Spirit by MuttleyLaff: 3:35am On Jun 06, 2020 |
okosunehis:"And once more all the people of Judah began bringing their tithes of grain, new wine, and olive oil to the Temple storerooms." - Nehemiah 13:12 So far you concede that since there is no temple, you're not in Israel, that what you're tithing from, is not agro-based, as how done, when tithing was restored, as seen in Nehemiah 13:12 above, then any now practised, obligatory or imposed ecclesiastical tithing, monitised, specifically converted into and/or expressed in the form of currency, is null and void, then no wahala. Ecclesiastical tithing, coming from a position of obligation or imposition, is unconstitutional in the realms of affairs of the New Covenant. okosunehis:[img]https://s3/images/ObamaMuttley.gif[/img] The significance of the splitting of the robe separating the altar from the rest of the temple, is the fact that it happened, immediately after Jesus uttered "It is finished" meaning that what He came to do on earth has been accomplished and signifying that access has now been procured for us t directly access and personally approach God, not at all much like was originally done there, when a human high priest and Levites were required spiritual contact with God was required or needed okosunehis:It is not my script. I was drawing your attention to your erroneous use of KILL, rather than correctly using MURDER, which is whats in the original text. okosunehis:I already advanced that, tithing originated from a Mesopotamia practice that prevailed pre and post the Abraham's living days, so yes, affirmative, that tithing precedes and succeeds Levitical tithing. Now, Abraham by custom was forced to give tithe upon spoils of war. The Israelites, by the Levitical priesthood, were forced by God to give tithe to the Levite et al. The sort of tithing Abraham did was tithe on anything goes spoils of war. The sort of tithing done by the Israelites were specifically restricted by God to agricultural products/produce. Now, it is freewill giving, that in the New Covenant is what succeeds Levitical tithing. It is giving without being forced, coerced, put pressure upon to give. It is giving that is not obtained from using threats or scare tactics that if the giving is not done then bad things, misfortune, sickness, bad luck et cetera would happen okosunehis:Under the New Covenant, there is no fixed figure or stipulated number, like for example to be religiously stamping out 10%. Under the dispensation of the New Covenant, your giving is to be spirit led. For example, you might decide to give 10% today, next time it might be 20%, another time, it could be 60%, following time, it could dip to 5%, even sometimes it might be 0%. Giving has nothing to do with being mechanical, but has a lot to do with spontaneity. Levitical tithing and/or practised, coerced, obligatory or imposed ecclesiastical tithing, monetised is planned and not spontaneous or necessarily spirit led okosunehis:"6Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously. 7Each one should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not out of regret or compulsion. For God loves a cheerful giver. 8And God is able to make all grace abound to you, so that in all things, at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work" - 2 Corinthians 9:6-8 It does take all the relevance away from His position on payment of tithes, especially if tithing, has the relics and hang-ups of the old guard. The order of the day, now is 2 Corinthians 9:7. It doesnt specify any number like say 10% for example |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "My Church Will Remain Closed" - Chris Okotie Rejects Government Guidelines by MuttleyLaff: 8:46pm On Jun 05, 2020*. Modified: 2:09am On Jun 06, 2020 |
ikorodureporta:Business strategy be this. Better to close shop until trade picks up properly, than open it and be wasting air-conditioning, electricity/power/diesel et cetera on scanty pews. 64 Likes 6 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by MuttleyLaff: 3:41pm On Jun 05, 2020 |
nnenneigbo:Yup. Sins. The story of Naija's life nnenneigbo:[img]https://media./images/e3544b8117d3ecbb0cb8751f1ce0ff71/tenor.gif[/img] YOU ARE EXPECTED TO BE RELIGIOUS! There isn't anything hilarious in being religious. Being religious especially sef, to your neighbour. Abeggy swerve jor. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Why Has Jesus Christ Always Been Made To Look Like A White Man? by MuttleyLaff: 2:37am On Jun 05, 2020*. Modified: 7:39am On Jun 05, 2020 |
butterfly777: MuttleyLaff: aadoiza:[img]https://s3/images/ObamaMuttley.gif[/img] What's my own with most people? Which people you dash me sef? Abeggy, yarn me something that'll make me stargaze "The Prophet pbuh, said, "I saw Moses, Jesus and Abraham (on the night of my Ascension to the heavens). Jesus was of red complexion, curly hair and a broad chest. Moses was of brown complexion, straight hair and tall stature as if he was from the people of Az-Zutt."" - Sahih al-Bukhari » Book of Prophets » Hadith 55:648 You weren't telling anyone anything that is new, that Jesus is neither black nor white nah Do you aadoiza, being a Muslim, know that, Sulaiman/Solomon (pbuh), is described as having reddish brown skin. That, in the apocryphal Lentulus letter, Jesus is described as having had a reddish complexion, matching Muslim traditions in this respect, hmm?. Prophet Sulaiman (pbuh) the youngest son of Prophet Dawood (pbuh), is described as having caramel tan skin or reddish brown skin, just like his dad, king David had (i.e. 1 Samuel 17:42) Hadith 55:648 above is where prophet Muhammad (pbuh), describes Isa/Jesus, pbuh, as red complexioned and Musa/Moses, (pbuh) as brown complexioned. Reddish-browned skinned, has being my consistent leaning to, in regards the Israelites' complexion aadoiza:[img]https://s1/images/MuttAmin.gif[/img] You're calling Mr d, to come insult your intelligence with propaganda that's full of contradictions and having no logical sense. Abi? He's only going to turn up, to argue that the ancient Israelites were just as black as his black arse is, lmao. Blind inviting blind guide to come show him the way. All you'll be inviting yourself, to get, is more pseudo history poisoning, from reading more ridiculous comments about black supremacy and black superiority over white people. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Payment Of Tithes: The Letters And The Spirit by MuttleyLaff: 1:52am On Jun 05, 2020 |
CodeTemplar:Anybody trying to enforce the Mathew 23:23 obligation of tithing is ignorant of the changing times of what Jesus did on Calvary, doesn't understand the significance of when the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom and so they haven't changed with the times along with others. If not for father Abraham, seeing today and so with faith believed God, the salvation we enjoy might not have readily forth come okosunehis:The TORAH, correctly says, "thou shall not MURDER" Not "thou shall not kill" There is a difference between kill and murder. okosunehis:Tithe was for the Levites because they did not have a land inheritance in Israel unlike the other tribes had. Besides, just as I earlier advanced, God was exercising His right of demanding for a tenth of the agricultural produce of the land, Isreal, because this is what Israel, the man vowed he will give God based on him being blessed by God in the land, and we have it that over 400 years later Israel the man arrived as Israel, the Nation, in Canaan, the Promised Land with not just, wealth, riches and gold from Egypt, but arrived in a land full of milk and honey. By divine providence, the outstanding vow, the solemn promise made by Jacob aka Israel, the man, was due and/or matured enough to ask for by God from Israel, now, the Nation. It is God's property, and so He decided, that the tithes should be handed over to tribe of Levite with other instructions on how to administer it. Kobojunkie:At that time or dispensation, it was necessary to pay tithe, and Jesus agreed to that. However, what Jesus with Matthew 23:23, wasn't pleased about, was people neglecting the religion of carrying out justice, mercy, and faith. As far as Jesus was concerned, justice, mercy, and faith are more important than paying tithing and even doing it up to extent of tithing on mundane agricultural spices plants like mint, dill and cumin. What about watching out for marginalised, the hungry, the downtrodden, the abuse, the incarcerated in prisons, the sick, homeless, the falsely accused, rape victims, why neglect positive convictions, right religious beliefs et cetera. Jesus' primary focus and concern wasn't about tithing, he actually was talking about misplaced priorities and even notably cursed the teachers of the law and Pharisees for putting paying of tithe in the fore front and ahead of other thing are greater in importance than tithing is. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Payment Of Tithes: The Letters And The Spirit by MuttleyLaff: 12:53am On Jun 05, 2020*. Modified: 1:43am On Jul 13, 2020 |
chinebu:Gbam! okosunehis:There is no temple, you're not in Israel, what you're tithing from is not agro-based. On every account this obligatory or imposed ecclesiastical tithing monitised, specifically converted into and/or expressed in the form of currency is null and void. Also the moment the curtain in the temple got torn apart and even as soon after the temple got destroyed by the Romans in 70 AD, any sense of duty to uphold "do not neglect it" went down the drain. The resurrection of Jesus and the new world order of the law of liberty superceded the obligation of tithing anyway. Kobojunkie:"What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore the more important aspects of the law—justice, mercy, and faith. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things." - Matthew 23:23 Kobojunkie:Tithing originated from a Mesopotamia practice that prevailed pre and post the Abraham's living days. It is a well known historical and documentated fact that Abram tithed in line with the prevailing Mesopotamia custom to tithe following returning fro battle/war victorious. Artifacts shows and testifies to heathens practice of tithing. Like few other things, tithing was a status quo, same as child sacrifices and/or ritualistic killing of children with Abraham then. So Abraham paid tithe after winning a fighting battle over four kings. The practice and onus was upon the victor of such or any battle/war to give a tenth of the spoils of war to a reputable priest cum ruler of his/her choice. Abraham decided that Melchizedek is his choice, so paid the tenth/tithe to him, received a blessing, and the rest of the story is now history. Melchizedek was a ruler cum priest of the Most God, but didn't know God same way Abraham did or have the same kind of relationship Abraham had with God. This is evidenced on how Abraham corrected Melchizedek after he misaddressed God. The tithing Abraham did was respecting custom. The tithing the Israelites did was an obligation. The tithe was demanded by God, based on a vow Jacob made to Him that he will give tithe on everything God blesses him with. Abraham, only went to battle once, and so paid tithe only the once time then, aside that, most important his sort of tithing is different to the Israelites' tithing Kobojunkie:"28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s descendants, heirs according to promise." - Galatians 3:28-29 donnie:All priests are Levites, but not all Levites are priests. Zechariah was a priest, but his son, John the Baptist, of course a Levite, was a prophet, but not a priest. Temple, actually would mean, the inner court, the holy place and then further in, the "Holy of Holies". The temple grounds would be made up of the outer courts, the beautiful gate or eastern gate. Kobojunkie:The words/curses/woes apply to any who hold on to the old covenant. The words/curses/woes are nullified and rendered impotent for those who hold on to and abide by the principles or laws of the new covenant donnie:The Hebrew language uses the word "chadash" as a noun and equally uses the same "chadash" word, as an adjective. When "chadash" is used as a noun, the intent, meaning and translation, means new, new thing, new things, something new or even fresh. When used as an adjective, "chadash" the intent, meaning and translation, then turn, to mean, to renew, renewed, repair, restore, restored and most important, in this context, its used in a verb sense (i.e. as in meaning its an action, activity or doing) In Jeremiah 31:31, we see YAH, use "chadash," as noun and not a verb. This means that, YAH was describing the covenant as being fresh, something new. In effect, it is a new covenant, its brand new. No, not renewing and certainly not restoring. Of course, its replaced. It is replaced with a brand new covenant. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Why Has Jesus Christ Always Been Made To Look Like A White Man? by MuttleyLaff: 9:01pm On Jun 04, 2020 |
butterfly777:Jesus was born in the north eastern African region or better put the Mediterranean region. Everyone knows what type of skin complexion people in them areas have. Jesus was neither white skinned nor black skinned 6 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Covid-19 And The Closure Of Churches: A Wake-up Call To Church Leaders by MuttleyLaff: 8:03pm On Jun 04, 2020 |
petra1:No one has said anything takes the place of church service nah. petra1:Principles supersede each other. There is no Superman for principles because when principle jam stronger, superior, more powerful principle, it shoves in chest, begins hail and salute the stronger, superior, more powerful principle Chief, baba petra1, fyi, Jesus ignored the grandeur of the temple, it actually was outside, the "hieron", the outer courts, that He was daily teaching people and not the temple. |
| Celebrities › Re: Busola Dakolo Gives Update On Her Rape Case Against Biodun Fatoyinbo by MuttleyLaff: 7:42pm On Jun 04, 2020 |
DammyLucy:Forensic, with concrete enough evidence will soon catch up. The journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step. Marathons always seem impossible, until its done. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Covid-19 And The Closure Of Churches: A Wake-up Call To Church Leaders by MuttleyLaff: 7:24pm On Jun 04, 2020 |
petra1:Bishop Gerald Glenn, 66, US pastor who blasted social distancing measures and said "The virus is out there, yeah, but God is out there too. God is larger than this virus et cetera" and so defied social distancing, only to come die of the same virus aka COVID-19. Pastor Landon Spradlin from Virginia US, who didn’t think COVID-19 was a hoax, as his son said he knew it was a real virus died from illness, criticising the panic surrounding the coronavirus aka COVID-19 calling it "mass hysteria" Frankline Ndifor, aged 39, Cameroon Prophet who claimed to heal COVID-19 patients by laying hands on them, died of Corona virus. Pastor Charles Kayiwa, originally from Uganda, who moved to the UK in 1993 having spent seven years prior, living in Sweden, the disease took him so quickly. He was admitted to hospital on Monday and by Sunday he was gone. Prominent Iraqi Shia scholar Ayatollah Sayed Hadi al-Modaressi contracted the novel Coronavirus, official sources confirmed. Dr Paul Kasabele, "gifted" eye doctor and Woolwich pastor, died of COVID-19 after warning others to take it seriously. Ballymena man Pastor Edwin Cotter, from Republic of Ireland died from COVID-19. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Covid-19 And The Closure Of Churches: A Wake-up Call To Church Leaders by MuttleyLaff: 7:24pm On Jun 04, 2020 |
petra1:"Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit dwells in your midst?" - 1 Corinthians 3:16 Synagogue is synonymous with the Old Testament and/or before the death of Jesus Christ. Meeting or fellowshipping together in each other homes is synonymous with the New Testament and the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Each time Jesus visited the temple, it was to run those merchandising the gospel out of the temple and out of business as usual. We are the temple of God. Jesus was doing evangelism, physically and spiritually feed the flock, at the same, in open air crusades. Whenever Jesus went into the temple, it was to cleanse it |
| Celebrities › Re: Busola Dakolo Gives Update On Her Rape Case Against Biodun Fatoyinbo by MuttleyLaff: 6:06pm On Jun 04, 2020 |
DammyLucy:You must be one of those, the cup's half empty lot |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Covid-19 And The Closure Of Churches: A Wake-up Call To Church Leaders by MuttleyLaff: 5:56pm On Jun 04, 2020 |
BackllGodNaija: petra1:Who air conditioner and comfort "epp" during the epidemic, huh? petra1:Jesus preached for multitude as much as 5000 people, in open air field, without so much of a tent. Go figure www.nairaland.com/attachments/11638752_fbimg15899780616065180_jpeg9f589451ed730414f175f352810765f5 www.nairaland.com/attachments/11655047_11634039img20200416065010jpegf624f88194af4f14a4e430edc7fa9bee_jpeg_jpeg3a622e5902461d9bac547d0378b2ac4c 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Corona Virus Has Shown How Christianity And Islam Have Failed Humanity by MuttleyLaff: 5:08pm On Jun 04, 2020 |
MacCantStopMe:Real life examples, will be any same true religion, that made a Samaritan transcend, rise to the occasion, go beyond and attend to another in need, when the priest (i.e. bishop/pastor/GO/prophet/choirmaster/apostle) and Levite (i.e. church worker/usher/chorister/deacon) who earlier before him, passed by on the other side, so to avoid giving help to a traveller beaten up, stripped naked, robbed of all his belongings and lastly left half dead to die (i.e. Luke 10:25 - 36) |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Corona Virus Has Shown How Christianity And Islam Have Failed Humanity by MuttleyLaff: 4:09pm On Jun 04, 2020 |
MacCantStopMe:I expected you, from a level of one you can't possibly comprehend what true and pure religion is, to respond like that  |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Corona Virus Has Shown How Christianity And Islam Have Failed Humanity by MuttleyLaff: 2:39pm On Jun 04, 2020 |
Born2Freak: MacCantStopMe:[img]https://s1/images/MuttAmin.gif[/img] You're aren't ready yet to know what it is but .. It is acts that are habitually, regularly, consistently and impartially done that God can't fault anything in it nor see any flaw(s) whatsoever with it |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by MuttleyLaff: 10:54am On Jun 04, 2020 |
nnenneigbo:"One day, Jesus told His disciples a story, to show that they should always pray and never give up" - Luke 18:1 Therefore confess your sins to each other, pray for each other, so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective" - James 5:16 The point is, we ought to continually be praying for Nigeria, to confess her sins, so for anticipated and/or expected change to happen dahling, |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Nigerian Pastors And Prophets Compare To Biblical Prophets by MuttleyLaff: 10:45am On Jun 04, 2020 |
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| Politics › Re: Evangelist Bamidele Isola Olumilua Is Dead by MuttleyLaff: 8:48am On Jun 04, 2020*. Modified: 9:16am On Jun 04, 2020 |
omoilewa: naptu2:https://olatorera.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/bamidele-olumilua-ondo-state-governor-nigeria.jpg "Bamidele Isola Olumilua is a Nigerian politician who was the elected Governor of Ondo State, Nigeria from January 1992 to November 1993 during the Nigerian Third Republic, elected on the Social Democratic Party platform. He was forced to leave office when the military regime of General Sani Abacha took power" - Wikipedia 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by MuttleyLaff: 8:07am On Jun 04, 2020 |
VBCampaign:Thank you. I thought as much, but didn't want to take the guess. Just continue to pray for the man, his missus and grown up kids too. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Nigerian Pastors And Prophets Compare To Biblical Prophets by MuttleyLaff: 8:02am On Jun 04, 2020*. Modified: 8:40am On Jun 04, 2020 |
Piits: Kobojunkie: Enoch07: OkCornel: JourneytoEL: CodeTemplar: Kobojunkie: OkCornel: petra1: donnie:"Dear friends, do not believe everyone who claims to speak by the Spirit. You must test them to see if the spirit they have comes from God. For there are many false prophets in the world." - 1 John 4:1 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Share Your How Convenient Virus, aka COVID-19 or Aunty Coro or Coronavirus Sucks by MuttleyLaff(op): 7:29am On Jun 04, 2020 |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Pastors Who Want Churches To Remain Closed Are Agents Of The Devil – Oyedepo by MuttleyLaff: 7:28am On Jun 04, 2020 |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Pastors Who Want Churches To Remain Closed Are Agents Of The Devil – Oyedepo by MuttleyLaff: 7:27am On Jun 04, 2020*. Modified: 7:48am On Jun 04, 2020 |
donnie:I feel you Baba d, but I am sure, you know say pesin dey see road, even when pesin dey cry Mr d. So this is it, if Israelites are black, thats taking it like that, for the sake of this matured discussion here, please how is the connect, that Esau is white, and Jacob/Israel his twin brother is black? How is the explanation for this? donnie:You seem here to give room to the idea that Arabs can be skin complexions other than black skinned, possibly white skinned and olive skinned (i.e. a middle between black and white skinned) donnie:Werent these self inflicted and/or self-induced ni? Abraham, with his self-defeating behavior with Hagar, was the architect of the ISHMAEL scourge and Jacob/Israel, with his cunning cunning man behaviour in cahoots with his mom, Rachel, was the architect of the ESAU/EDOM scourge. This is just a matter of, you reap what you sow nah. It is has been like this from the beginning, talking of Eden, here. The genesis of subjugation, started after eating of the TKGE. The seemingly perpetual subjugation of Israel, is only for the duration of the times allowed for the nations to do this are over (i.e. Luke 21:24). He who watches over Israel neither slumber nor sleep (i.e. Psalm 121:4) donnie:Sincerely and seriously speaking, any thought that believes that, it is meaningless arguments engagement, in asking you, simple, easy, direct and straightforward questions, don't know what they are talking of. Do not fear simple easy, direct and straightforward questions, don't be afraid of answering any those two questions, but fear sidestepping them. Be afraid of not answering the questions. There is no better time than now, for you answering questions put at you. Minds, are formed from asking questions and minds equally, are made up, as a result of answered questions donnie:Why when asked, are you being very defensive about your saying "More to come of what" and also being secretive over further saying "these are warning signs" hmm? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by MuttleyLaff: 11:23pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
VBCampaign:What man please? |
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