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Christianity EtcRe: That We May Have Sex With Them! by Myer(m): 10:34pm On Sep 24, 2020
DappaD:
Lol lol I guess I should take you to school.

Okay. First of all, know that I'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses.(Isaiah 43:10-12)
Before one can become a JW, he must be ready to put away the old personality with worldly habits, pick up his own torture stake and put on a new personality.
That includes living your life in direct accordance with Bible principles. (Psalm 119:105)
It may also include severing ties with family members and friends who might pose a threat to the service to our God, Jehovah. (Proverbs 13:20, Matthew 10:37, 1Corinthians 15:33)
Just like Peter and the disciples did and were rewarded(Mark 10:28-30)
So as you can see, it is that serious.



I don't know where you got the notion that I'm expecting ‘perfection’ from anybody.




Sir, please, know that I speak as one of Jehovah's Witnesses and not one of your usual churchgoers.
The Bible says that God's Kingdom will be firmly established in the heavens and is going to rule over the earth, that which will put an end to all the worldly governments.(Daniel 2:44)
The destruction and desolation of all the worldly governments as well as the extension of God's Kingdom to the earth will not be by human hands.
That work rests squarely in the hands of the invisible/immortal King, Jesus who was chosen by his God, Jehovah(Daniel 7:13-14, Luke 1:31-33) and the 144,000 corulers who are all immortal in heaven(Revelation 5:9-10)
They are the ones who will bring to nought all earthly governments and extend God's Kingdom to the earth. (Revelation 19:11-15)
It is only when that occurs, that obedient humans can benefit from God's righteous rulership. It is only then when true peace and security will come to be on the earth—death, pain, old age, sickness, hunger, injustice will all be no more. (Psalm 72:7,16, Isaiah 33:24, Revelation 21:1-4)
No human government today can ever achieve any of these, so that's why Jehovah's Witnesses stick to God's original plan and remain neutral in worldly affairs.
Do you know that Paul sought to make Christian's out of the Royal families?
Some in fact converted and he stayed and lived with them too?

So where do you get the idea that Christians and Politics should be separated while it's okay for Christoans to mingle with the world in every other aspect of life.

I can assure you that it is an erroneous view that has kept the impact of true Christian's from being felt.
Christianity EtcRe: That We May Have Sex With Them! by Myer(m): 8:20pm On Sep 24, 2020
DappaD:
Sir with all due respect—the reason why the world is in all this mess is because God isn't in charge of this present system and has no dealing with it at all.
The Bible reveals a certain evil angel called Satan the devil who's misleading all the nations and their respective governments. (1John 5:19, Revelation 12:9)


The true disciples of Jesus are identified as Jehovah's Witnesses. — Isaiah 43:10-12, Acts 1:8
So when Jesus made it clear that his disciples “be no part of the world”(John 17:14), it spanned several aspects of life—politics, entertainment and business.
True disciples of Jesus today DO NOT participate competitively in sports.— Galatians 5:26
They carefully examine and filter their entertainment and business they engage in so that such things do not conflict with God's principles.—Ephesians 5:10


Mr Myer, the nation of Israel was chosen by the God of the heavens and the earth—Jehovah.
He came into a covenant/agreement with the nation of Israel and said he was to make them a nation of kings and priests.—Exodus 19:5-6
It was from that geographical location that pure worship was to be observed and practised.
So normally, it was even a grave offense when the nation of Israel made unauthorized alliances with other nations.—Deuteronomy 7:2, Isaiah 30:1-4
After Jesus died, it was evident that God had rejected the nation of Israel and pure worship acceptable to God was to be practised amongst the new disciples of Jesus and wasn't based on geographical location anymore.



Jesus made it very clear on matters such as politics that we(true disciples) must remain politically neutral, just as he was. (John 18:36)
He didn't try to overturn the ruling government in his day even when the Jews wanted to install him as king! (John 6:15)
And that we're to be no part of this system of things ridden by Satan and his demons. (John 17:14&16)


Just to be clear, anyone claiming “Christian” supporting one earthly government or another is only deceiving his or herself because the worship offered by such ones WILL not be acceptable to God.
Did you abandon your family when you decided to follow Christ?

Did you give all you had and donated it to the church and the poor when you decided to follow Christ?

Have you plucked out your eyes and cut off your arms for causing you to sin?

If you did not keep these why do you expect perfection from others?

If Christians are to separate themselves from politics, how then is the Lord's prayer of establishing God's kingdom on earth as it is in heaven to be fulfilled?

There's no dichotomy between politics and christianity since there's none in other sectors of life.
Light and Darkness, Good and Evil are simultaneously in every sector and not exclusive to politics.
Christianity EtcRe: That We May Have Sex With Them! by Myer(m): 7:22pm On Sep 24, 2020
AkinwaleJJ:
That's the difference between professed Christians and Jesus' disciples!
The later are no part of the world [John 15:19, 17:16] when persecuted they're to flee the territory to where they can continue their activities peacefully [Matt 10:23] they're not expected to fight or struggle for political seats in this world because their Kingdom (government) is not from this source, that's what the founder of this movement (Christianity) said! John 18:36
This right here is the mentality that has kept Nigeria under corruption. Because the few morally upright Christians had been misdoctrinated until recent times.

It's ok to be a part of the world when it is business, entertainment or sports but not politics?

David, Nathaniel, Daniel, Shedrach, Meshach and Abednego, Zerrubabel, were they not into politics?

When Jesus mentioned that his government was a heavenly kingdom, he never mentioned that his disciples should avoid politics. It was simply that the government then was resistive to any one who wasn't one of them.

Of course not all Christians can be trusted with politics too in fact only a very few have proven to be trustworthy.
TV/MoviesRe: Nengi Plans To Stop Neo, Vee From Having Sex In Hotel Room On Sunday (video) by Myer(m): 6:20pm On Sep 24, 2020
Righteousness89:
Since the Time of Adam and Eve , there 3 things the devil has Consistently used to Pull down Humans..

1. What to Eat
2. What to Drink
3. How to Gratify the Flesh.

Every Human that fell from Top to bottom in the History of Humanity were Casualties of at least one of these..

If you will Refuse to be a Casualty of any of these, No one will see your back..

Immorality is a tool to Dilute the Greatness of People. There is nothing there.
It ends in Emptiness, Regrets and internal Hurts..

Beware of the Craftiness of the devil..
Meaning it's human nature right?
Even pastors who claim to have the Christ nature are likewise victims.

Only you know the ones you're contending with.
Christianity EtcRe: That We May Have Sex With Them! by Myer(m): 6:10pm On Sep 24, 2020
elated177:
Take a walk, dude. You are on a lost mission.
Struck a nerve, did I?
Christianity EtcRe: That We May Have Sex With Them! by Myer(m): 2:12pm On Sep 24, 2020
elated177:
Mtcheeeew!


I am done with you. There is nothing more we have to say to each other.
You mean you're a Christian in Nigeria and unaware of islamization agenda (albeit alleged)? Does your place of worship not intercede for Nigeria?
Christianity EtcRe: Repent World! Jesus Is Coming Soon!! Second Rapture Dream In Barely 2 Months!!! by Myer(m): 6:58am On Sep 24, 2020
petra1:
Are you a Christian.
Apostate. Tried it, believed blindly too but realized it doesn't work.
I do believe in God, just not in the biblical way anymore.

Every religion tries to figure the Power behind the universe, Christianity is just another one.

Christianity does teach good morals but unfortunately it's filled with a lot of unrealistic promises and is being used to manipulate the people.
I had to liberate myself from the idea of blind faith when the reality was not adding up.
You can say I got tired of defending God and the bible. His word should be practical and not just historical.
Christianity EtcRe: How The Sun Stood Still Without Moving - jesusjnr by Myer(m): 6:41am On Sep 24, 2020
BackllGodNaija:
Same here with the bolded fmas I admitted in the Op I didn't even have any idea what to answer to this question when you asked that morning...it was only after I started my prayers that morning that the answers began to come...that's usually the time I get a lot of answers to questions as such, revelations, ideas etc. so it was the norm for me. So it's not me oh but God who gave me this answer to your question.

By the way, kudos to you...you earn my respect for acknowledging this. Take care.
God gave you the answerhuh

Mind asking God for the cure for AIDS and Cancer or even Covid-19?
I think believers and unbelievers would appreciate that.

I'm just saying if you can truly hear God I would expect you to ask important questions not try to disprove an obvious faux pas in the bible.
Should be expecting the answer or God doesn't answer such important questions?
Christianity EtcRe: That We May Have Sex With Them! by Myer(m): 11:21pm On Sep 23, 2020
elated177:
The saints of the Father in heaven, YHVH Almighty, are drawn from all races, tribes, ethnicities, etc. They constitute the Body of his Son, his Word, Yahushua the Messiah. Among them you will find: blacks, whites, brown, etc. Also, among the saints of Yahushua the Messiah you will see the Igbos, Fulanis, Hausas, Yorubas, Jews, Japanese, English, Arabians, Egyptians, Indians, Chinese, Spanish, Germans, Mexicans, Italians, etc. Wherever you find any saint of Yahushua the Messiah, whether in Africa, America, Australia, Europe, Antarctica, you will find the Spirit of Truth operating in him or her.

This Spirit of Truth manifests the fruits as love, purity, honesty, sincerity, truthfulness, righteousness, etc. All these constitute what is described as light.

Wherever a saint of Yahushua the Messiah is, he or she will show others how things are done right. For example: if there is lack of honesty, such saint will be a beacon of honesty in such an environment. Again, if there is lack of purity, diligence or sincerity, such saint will be pillar of purity, diligence or sincerity in such an environment. This is what it means to be "the Light."

There are those who belong to the darkness and will refuse to change from their hatred, wickedness, dishonesty, impurity, etc. Among such people you find the: Igbos, Fulanis, Hausas, Yorubas, Jews, Japanese, English, Egyptians, Arabians, Indians, Spanish, Mexicans, Germans, Chinese, Italians, etc. They will see the light, the saint, in that environment as their enemy and will, therefore, fight against such saint. In this case, they will always fail woefully. Such spiritual battle has been going on since time immemorial and will continue unabated till the Messiah returns. Light will always triumph over darkness. Physical weapons such as knives, guns, wood or stones are not necessary.

Now you know, at least partially, the Scriptural context of light and darkness in terms of human activities.

Good, uprightness, righteousness, does not know race, colour, tribe, or ethnicity.

Evil, crookedness, unrighteousness, does not know race, colour, tribe or ethnicity.

Praise YHVH.
Well, let's simply agree to disagree.
I can't begin to highlight cases where the so called light was either sacked or became darkness themselves.
Christianity EtcRe: That We May Have Sex With Them! by Myer(m): 11:19pm On Sep 23, 2020
elated177:
I can't relate to your assertions since I have not been in that position.


The righteous walk is an individual walk. Our Master, Yahushua the Messiah, said "if you love me, keep my Commandments." Anyone who follows Yahushua the Messiah will follow his instruction.
Individual walk?
Well the bible also said you are a part of the body of Christ right?
Also not to forsake the gathering of saints?
Also to build love in one another?

I didnt see where individual walk was mentioned. Maybe you can correct me.
Christianity EtcRe: That We May Have Sex With Them! by Myer(m): 11:16pm On Sep 23, 2020
elated177:
What are you on about? How is this related to the discourse?
Since you're still in the dark, then no need pressing further.
Christianity EtcRe: Repent World! Jesus Is Coming Soon!! Second Rapture Dream In Barely 2 Months!!! by Myer(m): 11:14pm On Sep 23, 2020
jesusjnr2020:
When you were speaking ignorantly and making excuses since, you had a lot to say. Now that your lies about Jesus not preaching about hell fire have been exposed beyond the shadow of any doubt using the Bible. Instead of swallowing your pride, and accepting that you've been wrong all this while, you're still here making flimsy excuses.

It's now obvious you're not willing to learn but just looking for excuses to justify your foolishness, so i'm not going to waste my time any further trying to engage you concerning this matter because you're heart is hardened against the Truth!

I'm out.
May be I need to remind you of the premise and basis of my argument.

I simply quizzed why your own visions are not of heaven but of rapture and hell fire.

I reiterate, you should be worried you're not seeing visions of heaven like the disciples did, but keep dreaming of rapture and hell.

I read your posts and I have not found any Life in them. Only someone being self-righteous trying to make everyone see he is holier than everyone else. Which makes you sound more like a Pharisee than a disciple of Christ.

You have been on NL for for long now, yet no convert, no testimony from your readers, just constant bashing, ranting and insults.

Word of advice, the best form of evangelism is in your lifestyle, your words and the signs people see. A word they say is enough for the wise.
Christianity EtcRe: Repent World! Jesus Is Coming Soon!! Second Rapture Dream In Barely 2 Months!!! by Myer(m): 2:02pm On Sep 23, 2020
jesusjnr2020:
When you were speaking ignorantly and making excuses since, you had a lot to say. Now that your lies about Jesus not preaching about hell fire have been exposed beyond the shadow of any doubt using the Bible. Instead of swallowing your pride, and accepting that you've been wrong all this while, you're still here making flimsy excuses.

It's now obvious you're not willing to learn but just looking for excuses to justify your foolishness, so i'm not going to waste my time any further trying to engage you concerning this matter because you're heart is hardened against the Truth!

I'm out.
Hmm, read and comprehend. Did I ever claim that he didn't mention it?

I said he focused more about the Kingdom of heaven, not rapture and hell fire.

His disciples did the same. And they clearly were not seeing visions of rapture and hell but of heaven.

It is you should rather learn cos if you convert someone out of fear instead of love, that's only going to be a slave not a son of God.
Christianity EtcRe: Repent World! Jesus Is Coming Soon!! Second Rapture Dream In Barely 2 Months!!! by Myer(m): 11:42am On Sep 23, 2020
jesusjnr2020:
Talk is cheap so let me oblige you.

My own Jesus which you're obviously ignorant of talked more about hell fire than heaven.

This is the biblical proof of that.

1. Matthew 5:22
But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

2 Matthew 7:19
Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

3 Matthew 13:40
As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

4 Matthew 13:42
And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

5 Matthew 13:50
And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

6 Matthew 18:8
Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.

7 Matthew 18:9
And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.

8. Matthew 25:41
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

9 John 15:6
If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

10 Matthew 5:29
And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

11 Matthew 5:30
And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

12 Matthew 10:28
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

13 Matthew 23:15
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

14Matthew 23:33
Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

14 Luke 16:23-24 (KJV) And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

Let me add one from his forerunner John the Baptist who prepared the way for Him:

Luke 3:17
Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable.

So unless you can provide the instances where Jesus talked of heaven exclusively to match this, you should forever hold you peace because you've hence that your idea that Jesus preached more of heaven and not hell fire is nothing but a figment of your imagination, and you know absolutely nothing about what Jesus preached about it even the Bible, but just speaking out of the abundance of your ignorance.

You want to teach the things of the kingdom of God that are hidden to you, to those unto who they are revealed.

Don't repent as and keep deceiving yourself, and see if you'd not end up in hell fire as Jesus had warned severally.
Most of what you mentioned were parables by Jesus right?

Mind sharing those of the other apostles, if it's not too much to ask.

Cos while you were converted due to the fear of hell fire, they were converted by the true gospel which was not hell fire sir.
Christianity EtcRe: That We May Have Sex With Them! by Myer(m): 11:40am On Sep 23, 2020
elated177:
Evil is not overcoming good. Evil cannot overcome good. Darkness cannot triumph over light. There are good, upright, righteous people in the world, albeit few. There are evil, crooked, unrighteous people in the world and they are very many.

You must know what light and darkness mean Scripturally.

Everything boils down to the freewill the Creator, our Father in heaven, has given to us, his human creatures.

It is the Father's will to destroy this present world at the appropriate time and everything is going according to his plan. Those who are good and walk in the light, will continue to be good and walk in the light. Darkness does not have the power to make them change direction.

My honest submission.

If you have a contrary view, do share.
As much as I wish to concur with you, it is obvious from both biblical history and contemporary happenings that evil easily spreads more than good.

Take for example, the reason sin is still at large was simply because of a singular act of disobedience of Adam and Eve. Even the death and resurrection of Christ has not stopped men from committing sin.

Let's bring it to our present time, it is easy to be so fired up in church after a powerful sermon and holyghost power and promise to live righteously. But the moment you step outside the church premises you can't even be righteous for the a day. Some Christians even start fighting at the car park or even with the pastor. Apparently the light received in the church is unable to comprehend the darkness in the world out there. You are aware that pastors' children are usually the most immoral right?

Also there's an unwritten battle between islam and christianity in Nigeria which clearly islam is winning cos they have been ruling Nigeria since ever since. Even as much as Christians have been praying since God knows when.

I'm sure you have your own personal experiences where darkness has been overcoming light. Need I say more?
Christianity EtcRe: That We May Have Sex With Them! by Myer(m): 11:38am On Sep 23, 2020
elated177:
Evil is not overcoming good. Evil cannot overcome good. Darkness cannot triumph over light. There are good, upright, righteous people in the world, albeit few. There are evil, crooked, unrighteous people in the world and they are very many.

You must know what light and darkness mean Scripturally.

Everything boils down to the freewill the Creator, our Father in heaven, has given to us, his human creatures.

It is the Father's will to destroy this present world at the appropriate time and everything is going according to his plan. Those who are good and walk in the light, will continue to be good and walk in the light. Darkness does not have the power to make them change direction.

My honest submission.

If you have a contrary view, do share.
As much as I wish to concur with you, it is obvious from both biblical history and contemporary happenings that evil easily spreads more than good.

Take for example, the reason sin is still at large was simply because of a singular act of disobedience of Adam and Eve. Even the death and resurrection of Christ has not stopped men from committing sin.

Let's bring it to our present time, it is easy to be so fired up in church after a powerful sermon and holyghost power and promise to live righteously. But the moment you step outside the church premises you can't even be righteous for the a day. Some Christians even start fighting at the car park or even with the pastor. Apparently the light received in the church is unable to comprehend the darkness in the world out there. You are aware that pastors' children are usually the most immoral right?

Also there's an unwritten battle between islam and christianity in Nigeria which clearly islam is winning cos they have been ruling Nigeria since ever since. Even as much as Christians have been praying since God knows when.
AutosRe: Corolla 04 Toks Accident Free Sale@1.980m by Myer(m): 7:09am On Sep 23, 2020
This car is so popular now. Can anyone tell me why?just watch cars on the road and 4 or 5 out of 10 would be this.
Any specific reason for that?
Christianity EtcRe: Repent World! Jesus Is Coming Soon!! Second Rapture Dream In Barely 2 Months!!! by Myer(m): 6:36am On Sep 23, 2020
WILLuKPquiet:
Will you keep quiet!

You are not only stupid to have jumped on the thread to say trash but the mental illness given to you by demons is also worrying you.

All your fake and stupid American English will stop when the end comes.

You and your like should keep off Christian threads.

Nonsense.
Neither will your anger and self righteousness according to the bible.
Christianity EtcRe: Repent World! Jesus Is Coming Soon!! Second Rapture Dream In Barely 2 Months!!! by Myer(m): 6:35am On Sep 23, 2020
jesusjnr2020:
You claim to be a student of the Bible and you don't know this? Jesus preached about hell fire many times more than He did about heaven.

Even his forerunner warned people to flee from the wrath of come.

The disciples weren't any different otherwise you'd tell me why there's so much apprehension about the book of revelation.

This has nothing to do with visions of heaven, bit that you're so fearful of going to hell fire, that's why even my dream about being raptured which is part of the process of going to heaven, you keep putting in the same bracket as hell fire. Maybe you actually think being raptured means going to hell fire.

Why not go through the Op to have an idea of what rapture means, instead of your wrong preconceptions that borne out of fear.

Repent Myer and stop making flimsy excuses, it because of people like you that God sends His apostles and prophets to warn men to repent so they wouldn't find themselves in such a place.

If you like don't repent but keep making silly excuses upandan. That day you'd have no one to blame but yourself.
Maybe your own Jesus probably preached hell fire more than heaven but the one in the bible clearly focused more on heaven. Likewise his disciples.
They did mention hell fire but were preaching heavenly kingdom.

May be if you spent more time studying your bible than ranting and arguing on social media, you'll know what the gospel is. And start preaching that.

By the way, you should be more worried you keep dreaming of rapture and hell fire cos no disciple dreamt of such, they only saw visions of heaven.
You should study more on stephen, Paul and John.
Christianity EtcRe: What's The Difference Between A Christian And Others? by Myer(op): 10:35pm On Sep 21, 2020
AkinwaleJJ:
I've told you that the "fruit" doesn't mean on individual level!
A Christian out of fear denied his master three times even when the master said "whoever denies me before men, i will also deny before my father"
Another Christians sold his Master for money.
Another Christian couple lied over the price they got from selling their property.
Another Christian was caught sleeping with his step mom.
Another Christian ran away from his master.
All these were recorded as part of the atrocities committed by the early Christians.
So what exactly makes them different back then to the extent that their faith is resounding in the hearts of billions today?
It wasn't the individuals performance because they are also sinners, but it's their movement as a group (body) that stands out as unique in Judah in the first century.
The bible doesn't teach that though. It teaches individual salvation not organisation. It is not organisation that will be judged but the individuals right?
RomanceRe: "Men From Age 19 To 27 Are Liabilities, Don’t Date Them" - Nigerian Lady Warns by Myer(m): 9:24pm On Sep 21, 2020
Kriss216:
Not again cry

The number of sane girls in Nigeria no reach 10. Go to an average Nigerian girl timeline, you'll be shocked and amazed how low they've become.
Although she is actually right but no one likes to hear the truth.

At that age range .most guys are only in relationship for sex. But above that age, that's when they start looking for who to settle down with.

Even though she has made so much sense, even her sisters and daughter will still fall for guys within 19-27 because at that age range you're driven by hormones not sense.
Christianity EtcRe: What's The Difference Between A Christian And Others? by Myer(op): 9:20pm On Sep 21, 2020
AkinwaleJJ:
Well it's like each person needs to stick to his own opinion now!
Jesus said you will know the truth and the truth will set you free.
So it's a free world!
I didn't mean to offend just stating the facts.

I know a couple of JW members. I've worked with 2 closely, male and female and trust me they're just the same as other Christians.
In church they know how to act holy but on a regular day, you find them practising the same immoralities as others.
Christianity EtcRe: What's The Difference Between A Christian And Others? by Myer(op): 8:02pm On Sep 21, 2020
AkinwaleJJ:
Have you noticed the fruit in their movement?
Not really, just you sound like them. JW always try to dissociate themselves from other Christians even though the only difference is in their doctrines. Not in the fruit nor gifts of the spirit.
TravelRe: Abuja Light Rail: This Is Not Dubai, Tokyo, London, But Abuja by Myer(m): 7:48pm On Sep 21, 2020
jumobi1:
No reasonable person will confuse that picture for Tokyo, Dubai or London.
cheesy
But you get bad mouth sha.
He meant Dubai and Tokyo 20 years ago.
Christianity EtcRe: What's The Difference Between A Christian And Others? by Myer(op): 7:46pm On Sep 21, 2020
AkinwaleJJ:
The highlighted is where we must draw the curtain. If you knew where to find the list of qualities Paul mentioned to help interested observers identify the group of Christians yet you can't see the difference then let's keep our opinions to ourselves. I have studied the Bible diligently and i now know the group bearing that fruit, Jesus said "by their (many as in a group) fruit you (the interested person) will recognize them"
I know if you're to identify a group of wrestlers, footballers, musicians, lawyers, butchers, tailors, soldiers, bankers, engineers, robbers and so on, you won't need me to tell you, because the tenets of their profession will help anyone to discern their movement.
So with what you yourself have quoted from the Bible after reading about Jesus of Nazareth it's evident my opinion will never count before you!
Are you JW?
Christianity EtcRe: What's The Difference Between A Christian And Others? by Myer(op): 7:04pm On Sep 21, 2020
xproducer:
"But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed say to him who formed it, “Why have you made me like this?” Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor? What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory," - Romans 9:20-23

For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways,” says the Lord. “For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways, And My thoughts than your thoughts." - Isaiah 55:8-9

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"He is the Rock, His work is perfect; For all His ways are justice, A God of truth and without injustice; Righteous and upright is He." -Deuteronomy 32:4
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He asked you a very important question which you should have simply replied that you did not have an answer.

Quoting scriptures as if God is against asking him questions when clearly Moses did, David did, Job did, Habakkuk did, and several other prophets did.

Simply say you don't know.
Christianity EtcRe: What's The Difference Between A Christian And Others? by Myer(op): 7:00pm On Sep 21, 2020
AkinwaleJJ:
Hmmmm, are you annoyed over something?
Because the tone in your expression is changing.
Please don't be offended, if i've said anything bad just let me know.
Jesus spoke of a kind of fruit and Paul expatiate on the nine qualities of this fruit. But Paul's explanation makes it clear that the fruit is not what an individual could exhibit alone, according to Jesus and Paul it's on the group level that the qualities of this unique fruit could be observed.
So it's left to each Bible student to be diligent in his study of the scriptures to decipher how to identify the group bearing this fruit.
My tone did not change, I simply asked a question. Though reading it again I can understand why you would misconstrue that.

I know what you mean by the fruit of the spirit, I simply meant which Chrstians do you see exhibiting them?
Galatians 5:21-22.
Even the gifts of the spirit as listed in 1 Corinthians 12 are not exhibited by Christians.

So this leads me back to the same question what then is the difference between a Christan and others? Sincerely
Christianity EtcRe: What's The Difference Between A Christian And Others? by Myer(op): 3:01pm On Sep 21, 2020
AkinwaleJJ:
The holy spirit doesn't do the same thing all the time, that's what you need to know. Different generations of faithful worshipers experience the power of the holy spirit but differently.
It's unbelievers that always expect the same thing they heard before.
The only difference is the obedience and humility exhibited by followers of Jesus, there is nothing affecting others that doesn't affect them!
So anyone who want to know the difference should study Jesus' words with keen interest then diligently observe all the groups around you claiming worshipers of God. Of course they may not even call themselves Christians because it's by their fruit that Jesus said they will be identified.
And which fruit is that? Cos the premise of this whole discussion is that there is no difference.
Christianity EtcRe: What's The Difference Between A Christian And Others? by Myer(op): 2:02pm On Sep 21, 2020
AkinwaleJJ:
God used his holy spirit to direct humans till all the information in the Bible were documented, after that God said everything is complete.
So the work of God's holy spirit now is to comfort Jesus' followers through the endtime crisis, that's why Jesus referred to the spirit as "another comforter" John 14:16
Jesus only tells his followers things that's necessary not everything that's going to happen, he didn't tell Martha and Mary their brother Lazarus will die. Christians believe in the spirit to guide them through this turbulent times not to continue revealing how like the manner in which it will be or the date it's coming
Mary and Martha were before the Holyspirit was given right? During which Jesus was hearing him.
Besides was it written that the Holyspirit has expiry date in the bible? That's an assumption I hear mostly from JW members.

As you can see, you have not been able to state anything substantial that differentiates a Christian from others.
Christianity EtcRe: What's The Difference Between A Christian And Others? by Myer(op): 10:22am On Sep 21, 2020
AkinwaleJJ:
That depends on what you meant by "Christians"

God is speaking to Christians through his word (Bible) today. Regarding things to come during the endtime Jesus forearmed his followers with predictions so they won't get carried away with the signs of the endtime! Matt 24:3-14
His true followers keep observing his words till today, so it's the unbelievers (those not trusting Jesus' predictions) that are worried!
But it is not supposed to be limited to the word alone. What if there was no bible?

The earlier disciples were led by the Holyspirit right?
Christianity EtcRe: What's The Difference Between A Christian And Others? by Myer(op): 9:46am On Sep 21, 2020
AkinwaleJJ:
There is just one difference!
Willingness to yield to the teachings and counsel of the only begotten son of God. Apart from that humans remains humans, in fact Jesus never expected the changes in their attitude and lifestyle to be sudden, he was calm with their slow response to his counsels.
So the one and only difference is willingness to accept that we are sinners (those who are loaded down with defaults) and we must endeavour to make changes.
Whoever thinks he's OK or better than Christians is deceiving himself, because when Christians keeps life saving instructions given by God's son the unbeliever will stick to his own understanding which will eventually lead to his extermination when God's angels comes to destroy disobedient humans!
Take for instance, when God asked the Israelites to splash their doorposts with the blood of the passover lamb, Egyptians were irritated with such exercise and surely there will be kind hearted Egyptians back then too. But when the angels of death passed through Egypt all the first born found in houses without blood on doorposts died!
You and i knew for sure that back then there was no difference between the Egyptians and Israelites apart from the life saving instructions.
But the problem is God doesn't even speak to Christians too.
At least if God speaks to you, you can be different from others but take the Covid19 pandemic for example, no one knew about it talkless of what to do. Even Pastors where caught unawares talkless of ordinary christian members.
Christianity EtcRe: What's The Difference Between A Christian And Others? by Myer(op): 7:56am On Sep 21, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:
Ah! And this is your stumbling block.

The Word of God is One so also is the Bible, One! No old Testament and new testament but Pre-Christ and Post Christ!

And from Pre-Christ to Post Christ, the constant difference is Righteousness and Holiness!
Don't make me insult you. Even your bible is divided I to old testament and new testament.
Even Paul differentiates both.

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