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Christianity EtcRe: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Myer(op):
MaxInDHouse:
You said you teach what is backed by scriptures! smiley
Well can we test that?
I'll help you out:

You said Jesus has nothing to do with group setting, shey?

Well what did Jesus meant by telling people that the only relatives he has are those who share the same line of thought with him {Matthew 12:46-50} Jesus also prayed for his faithful disciples to share the same mindset on issues! John 17:22

So ask yourselves how that could be possible if Jesus' disciples are not in the same group receiving the same teaching? Matthew 24:45

Please when you want to talk about Christianity know that you know nothing about what a Christian means, because a Christian is not just a faithful person rather a Christian is one who is ready to find the group practicing pure worship and JOIN THEM. That's why Jesus told one good man that all his righteousness is not enough unless he join Jesus' disciples! Luke 18:18-23

So you're wrong Sir, you can't practicing true Christianity without FINDING THE GROUP PRACTICING HIS TEACHINGS! Matthew 7:13-14 smiley
There you go again both quoting me wrong and quoting the bible wrong.
Very typical of your organisation.

I never said Jesus has nothing to do with group setting.

I said Jesus never established any denomination. In fact he and his disciples simply called their sect The Way.
It was never called Jehovah's witness.
Your founder just like every other denomination simply received a revelation on a verse in the bible to name his organisation.

For JW it is Acts 1:8

I do hope some day the scales blinding your eyes will eventually fall off and you will start studying the bible by yourself and not just swallow what your organisation has brainwashed you with.
Christianity EtcRe: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Myer(op):
truespeak:
grin The Law of the Christian is "Do unto others as you would want them to do to you"

You are not allowed to Hurt another and when it is his turn to take his recompense, you remember he is a Christian and raise it to try to stop him from doing so.

It will not avail you!

Consequently the Hurt you delivered shall be delivered unto you and, it will cut Right Through as we have just done to you.

It is not yours to Wield!
Did Jesus teach you to curse those who curse you? Or did he teach you to bless those who curse you?

Take your time to study the synoptic gospels before you respond. Your ignorance has now become a very blatant ignominy.
Christianity EtcRe: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Myer(op): 4:35pm On Oct 17, 2021
truespeak:
I see all ya wish I and Dtruthspeaker were the same but It Gives me Great Pleasure to burst your Wish! grin

On your complaint of Christ like, you get what you give, you can not give offense and expect to get pleasure!

Pain begets Pain and Pleasure begets Pleasure.

You Hurt and then Complain about being Hurt? Sorry you have lost the Right to Complain.
Apparently you're not a Christian

As a Christian you do not Repay evil with evil but with love and good.
Christianity EtcRe: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Myer(op): 4:07pm On Oct 17, 2021
kingxsamz:
You didn't notice he used 2 different monikers to answer you? One commented after the other, in the same manner. grin
Lol I thought I was the only one that noticed.
He has multiple personality disorder. Yet none of his personalities is christ like.
Christianity EtcRe: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Myer(op): 2:00pm On Oct 17, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
What is your understanding about the word "CHRISTIAN"?
Is it just anyone claiming Christian or those practicing what Jesus (the man called CHRIST) taught?
As long as you're not ready to differentiate between true Christians and misinformed churchgoers you can't understand a single thing in God's word!

The man Jesus from Nazareth is the one called "CHRIST" {Matthew 16:16} those PRACTICING what he laid down are recognized as "CHRISTIANS" {Act 11:26} so try to find out who are those practicing what Jesus taught first then you can now begin to solve other issues! cheesy
Good question.
1. By definition a Christian is not just one who is a church goer but one who follows the way of Christ

As we can tell, the name Christian was coined by those who observed the disciples in Antioch behaved and lived like Jesus Christ.

So to be a Christian has nothing to do with your denomination or profession but your way of life and manifest presence of the power of God in your life.

2. Another dichotomy in Christianity is that God's promise to Abraham was that through him the whole world would be saved. Jews and Gentiles alike.
Jesus during his time on earth was sent only to the Jews. And he avoided the Gentiles as much as possible.
But he also taught his disciples that He would send the Holyspirit to teach them things they were unable to bear until he died and resurrected.
Meaning as important as the gospels of Jesus Christ were, the teachings of the Apostles are probably more important. Why? Because they taught the thing Jesus was limited to teach.
The result of this being that God made Peter the apostle to the Jews and Paul the apostle to the Gentiles. Hence there are 2 different gospels in the bible- the gospel to the circumcised Jews and gospel to the uncircumcised Gentiles 2:8

Note that I only teach what is scripturally backed up.

Cc mynd44
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Christianity EtcRe: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Myer(op):
Dtruthspeaker:
If you have been learning the lessons that living teaches, you would have known that when you act like a fool, you would be called a fool.

And when you act as one who is mad, you would be called mad.



When OFFENCE AND INSULT is given every reasonable person gets angry as you just proven

Whereas, you came up with this thread to Offend and Insult God.

And now I have answered you back in your own reasonable coin and you are now complaining, raising bigotry

It is also bigotry to wantonly and unprovocatively attack God, Who has long since left you alone to do whatever you like, even if disguised in the form of questions.

It is bigotry to also attack God, since you complain about my Right to Defend Him!

Imagine, A Bigot is himself complaining about bigotry! What madness!
The bible simply says you can call one a fool if he says there is no God.

I never denied the existence of God.
I simply stated the scriptural truths in the bible.

So calling me a fool and mad was unwarranted.
You only played to the gallery of a religious bigot and gnashed your teeth at me, quick to defend your God instead of addressing the issue at hand.

Anyway, instead of proving who is foolish and who isnt. I'm more interested in you realising that I did not state anything contrary to what the bible teaches.

I even brought your attention even to the verse where God himself stated that he regretted creating man. If he wasnt saying he made a mistake i wonder what your interpretation of this is.

In fact the reason we are even having issues with interpretation was because God himself confused the language of man due to man building the Tower of Babel.

Instead of resorting to insults, you should choose to address the issue in discourse.

Jesus was faced with more controversial issues and he never resorted to insults rather he addressed the issues.

Which was why my question to you was to know if you're a Christian or not.
CelebritiesRe: Janemena Reacts To Prince Kpokpogri Leaked Audio On Dirty Sex by Myer(m): 1:09pm On Oct 17, 2021
Mayng01:
Smh! So speechless. shame does not matter to her. Omo, see dt behind as she dey shake am, serious vibration. Abeg, make a watch am again one more time.
What do you advise her to do?

She's obviously out of shame reached out to Tonto Dikeh to salvage her marriage.

While I condemn her action, I think this is probably the what she can do on social media.

It's now between her and her husband to know if the marriage should continue or not.

Personally I dont think she's going to leave the KpoKpo alone anytime soon after 9 yearshuh
PhonesRe: MTN Nigeria Compensates Subscribers For Network Downtime by Myer(m): 1:05pm On Oct 17, 2021
benuejosh:
Nonsense!
So Is it 1MB that Nigerians are worth? For one, I even thought it was some Yahoo guys message.

This is an Insult.
I had to subscribe on another network. Will they refund me for that?

Well, if truly the refund some people then it's atleast a good attempt at customer service.
Christianity EtcRe: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Myer(op): 12:59pm On Oct 17, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:
You definitely saw I respectfully addressed your issues with the addition of describing what you have said as unreasonable and below a normal person's reasonable level of thought processing, which we all designate to be "mad" or "foolish", in whatever cases they reasonably apply on.

So I was clealy within reasonable Law Full limits.
You mean calling me mad and a fool was respectful?
I wonder if you passed English at all or you're simply a religious bigot.

Note that it is religious bigots that angrily defend their god to the extent of insulting anyone who challenges them and even resorting to murder.
You're just a step away... you'll soon get there.
Christianity EtcRe: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Myer(op): 12:36pm On Oct 17, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:
Your Former madness has obviously returned! For I answered you on all these questions AND YOU COULD NOT REBUT IT.

SO WHY DON'T YOU JUST COME OUT AND JOIN THE CHOIR OF BLASHEMERS RATHER THAN PLAY MADNESS.



As I told you then, we all have dangerous things in our houses and we also have first aids, bandages and hospitals for our stupid children. No Mistake.



So it is a bad thing and a Mistake to Promote a Person who did his work.?(See, you are surely mad)



So to create toys and stuff is a bad thing and a Mistake? (See, you are surely mad). If your life is horrible GO AND DRINK ONE BOTTLE OF COLD HYPO, so that you can commence your journey to your uncreated status.



Respectfully, I call you Fool for you do not know that the worst thing that can happen to a Criminal is for The Judge to be A Witness to his crime!



Sorry, for calling you Fool Again! There is Automatic Relationship between every creation and it's Creator because no creation can work very well without the Help of its Creator.

But foolish creations allowed other evil creations to deceive thems that they can maintain and sustain themselves without their Creator.

So, the Creators Sending of Helps and Warnings is even great kindness in the first place for it would have been just and right full WHEN THE FOOLISH CREATIONS STARVE OUT AND DIE OUT FROM LACK OF MAINTENANCE AND SUSTENANCE, since they cut themselves out, by themselves from their Natural Relationship to their Creator!
Are you a Christian?
If yes, you're a shame to Christ and Christianity.
Instead of addressing the issues, you resorted to insults which is obviously the defense mechanism of the ignorant and angry.

If not, by all means you're allowed to have an opinion. It's a free world.
Christianity EtcRe: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Myer(op): 11:35am On Oct 17, 2021
mrpuzzle:
Non sense
A mad man believes he has sense and everyone else has no sense.
#Tinkabourit.
Christianity EtcRe: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Myer(op): 11:33am On Oct 17, 2021
SSIPON:
Ignore Max. It's for your own sanity grin
Trust me I understand him and his ilk perfectly.
We've had occasional discussions and I can tell you for free that he has been brainwashed by JW.
He doesn't preach Jesus Christ or Jehovah but his Jehovah's witness organisation. His case is very peculiar.
Christianity EtcRe: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Myer(op):
MaxInDHouse:
You're almost there, atheism is welcoming you gradually! cheesy
Forget about atheism.
Just prove that these were not mistakes.
Christianity EtcRe: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Myer(op): 11:11am On Oct 17, 2021
SultanYoung:
Am not a Christian but this thing you type prove to me that you a very STUPID.


for disrespecting GOD am sorry but I know fully well you will be serve the delicacy you so much desire.

Must God make sense to you before you serve him?

Must you understand all his way before you serve him?

Must his words be very clear before you serve him.



Let me ask you a simple question did you understand SEX before you engage in it

Or did you understand all the content in beer and brevages before you take them.
While I'll ignore the invectives, it's interesting that you could not counter any of the mistakes listed.

More importantly, your excuse that I don't need to understand God before serving him is the exact reason why we have terrorists today because your excuse is the same excuse an Islamist terrorist will give as to why he was chosen to blow himself up for the God he is not expected to understand. He should only do the will of God.
Christianity EtcRe: If You're Grateful To God For Anything, Please Jump In Here. by Myer(m): 10:39am On Oct 17, 2021
Promzy99:
We dwell in a difficult nd trying times, yet God's love, grace nd outstretched hands has never ceased to do wonders in our various lives and in different ways. So as such, we owe him gratitude. Please lets use today's opportunity to share nd show appreciation to God.
Grateful to God that where there is life and good health there is hope.

Las las we go dey alright because his thought of us is good and not evil to give us a good and expected end.
Christianity EtcGod Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Myer(op):
One of the popular christian axioms is that God never makes mistakes. In fact there are worship songs about this.
Even though we can see that obviously God made several mistakes.
Interestingly at no point in the bible did God say he never makes mistakes. But some motivational pastors have always preached this.

Let us list the undeniable mistakes God made as accounted in the bible.
Note that this is in no way to diminish God's omnipotence, omnipresence and omniscience.
Just to let us come to the truth as written in the bible after all Christ declared himself as the Way, the Truth and the Life.

1. Mistake in the Garden of Eden:
When God created the Garden of Eden and placed the tree of knowledge of good and evil and tree of life in the same garden.
According to God, if Adam and Eve had eaten of the tree of life after eating of the tree of knowledge of good and evil man would have remained eternally in the sinful state.
If you ask me, even evicting Adam and Eve from the Garden did not solve the problem as man has remained eternally in a sinful state. Which is why Jesus was sent to redeem man into eternal life.

2. Creating and Elevating Lucifer
Lucifer according to the bible is who is today known as Satan. Before he became known as Satan, he was one of the primary arch angel meaning he was one of the Angels closest to God and he led God's army, worship, etc.
After elevating Lucifer, at some point the bible says iniquity was found in him and he wanted to be God.
God obviously did not see that coming.

3. Mistake of Creating man in the first place. Genesis 6:5-7
Though details of this cannot really be found in the bible but God supposedly created man because his earlier creation which are Angels (especially Lucifer and his supporting angels) had failed him.
God supposedly created man to prove to Angels that he could have people worship him out of freewill.
Why did God eventually destroy the earth and preserve Noah and his family?
It was because God regretted creating man in the first place.

4. Mistake of the Promised Child
After the Adam and Eve fell from glory by eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, God cursed the serpent and promised to send a child that would crush the serpent though the devil would bruise his heels.
God sent so many to fulfill this promise, from Seth to Isaac, Samson, etc but it never worked.
This failure continued until God sends Himself in human form who we call the only begotten son Jesus Christ.

5. Mistake of Freewill
Apparently the story of man's continued disobedience to God can be attributed to one simple factor, Freewill.
God supposedly gave man freewill because he did not want to force man to love him. He wanted to have a relationship with man as Father and Son unlike with the Angels. Yet it is this that has made God lose the power to redeem man because man's will is inclined to continue in sin and hedonism than piety and holiness.

6. Mistake of Religion
God created man to have a relationship with him.
Yet to achieve this God had to select certain fathers of faith as they are called to establish a religion. First with Noah (the Noic laws) then with Abraham (Abrahamic laws) and then Moses (Mosaic laws) before finally sending Jesus to uphold the laws but then establish a new law of love.
Religion is very dogmatic. Even though Christian's have been taught that Chris established a new law of love which his disciples and apostles preached, man has already gotten hooked to the religious laws that those who make money of the laws will never let it go.
Hence why there are various factions of Christianity and other religions.

7. Mistake of Methodology of Salvation
Christianity is the acceptance that God sent his only begotten son who had never committed any sin to be killed and sacrificed for the sins of mankind.
Yet after the sacrifice of Christ, sin still abounds and even multiplying exponentially.
Would it not have been easier for God to simply killthe source of sin which is Satan and his demons/angels? Just saying.


Do you disagree that God made mistakes, let's discuss.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are Godly Parents Not Raising Godly Seeds? by Myer(m): 10:03am On Oct 17, 2021
Omooba77:
Why are Godly parents not raising Godly seeds?

Adam and Evil failed over Cain
Noah failed over his children.
Isaac and Rebecca did not have perfect children.
Eli lost because of his children.
Samuel's children made Israel to ask for a king.
David was abysmal over his children.
Pray to God to be good parent that will not cause your children to err to God!
I wondered the same especially after none of Moses children could take up the mantle of their father.

Only Abraham succeeded with Isaac.
And David was also lucky with Solomon even though he failed with the others. But then again he was suffering the consequences of his fiasco with Bathsheba. Ironically Solomon is the son of Bathsheba.

Even contemporarily most pastors of our churches nowadays raise some of the most wayward children..
Wonder why.
Christianity EtcRe: God Wants You To Be Happy by Myer(m):
Interesting15:
In Genesis, we saw how God intentionally and purposefully made different beautiful things before eventually creating man and then placed him in the Garden of Eden to experience endless pleasantness and unending joy. Unfortunately, when the evil devil introduced sin, a crucial effect attached to this aberration was that it introduced sorrow and bitterness into the affair of humanity.

And so, for a long time, humans were devising all manner of strategies to discover Joy. There's always that innate drive to engage a long lasting happiness - the True Joy. Unfortunately, many started putting their hands into different harmful stuff just to secure a measure of pleasure that brings a measure of temporal happiness. Talk about drugs, sex, and all manner of harmful addictions. But then, they are what they are - harmful and unfulfilling.

But God decided helping us by making right our pitiable conditions. What did He do? He sent His Son Jesus Christ Who died for the sins of men. Hence, anyone who believes in the finished works of Christ, will have eternal life (John 3:16). This Eternal Life, which flows in the Holy Ghost, brings joy and peace that transcends human understanding. Hence, God Wants You To Be Happy, and He has made the strategy available in Jesus Christ.

Are you struggling with one type of sorrow or the other? Listen, Jesus Christ is all you really need. Allow Him today, and experience divine joy forever. God bless you.

https://www.sundayakanni.com/2021/10/god-wants-you-to-be-happy.html?m=1
Explain then the story of Job.
Was God making him happy when he decided to place a wager on him and allowed the devil to kill all his children and destroy all his property even striking him with boils all over his body.

Yes, God is interested in man's happiness. But He is also interested in a lot of other things. Testing man, making man go through pains just to build him up, etc.
Christianity EtcRe: God Wants You To Be Happy by Myer(m): 9:33am On Oct 17, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
The world you see today is not God's making, but what man made of the perfect world God made in the beginning.

Genesis 1:31 (KJV)

And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
Are you saying man is more powerful than God?

But then you'll say God gave authority to man on earth so we can't blame God.

Explain then how whenever God wants to override man's authority, even in the bible he does that. Meaning God can always choose to make man do his will.
Christianity EtcRe: Which Is More Potent? Fasting Or Midnight Prayers? by Myer(m): 9:28am On Oct 17, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
Which Is More Potent? Fasting Or Midnight Prayers?

In my spiritual life, fasting has proven itself to be by far more potent and powerful, even though i still observe both.

A times I may be doing midnight prayers for months, but certain things I pray for wouldn't materialize.

But once I just fast for a little while, immediately the solution would just come out of nowhere as though it's been waiting for me to fast.

This has happened on several occasions that it's made me to take serious notice, and to begin to rate it more than midnight prayers, even though I also receive a lot of answers from prayers, because fasting seems to have a significant edge over it.

I first noticed how effective it was when during my fasting at a point when I was still struggling with sexual lusts, how the inclination just seemed to disappear during the period I was fasting, it felt really strange because this was something that I found very difficult to contain regardless of how much I prayed and when I prayed.

Even when it comes to dealing with those of the powers of darkness, fasting has shown itself to be more much powerful than midnight prayers.

For instance, despite that i had been told I had been given authority over the demons, there were yet some NL witches that were proving very stubborn even after and when I did midnight prayers. But once I just fast, the way they suddenly go into hiding is mind blowing. I mean they literally disappear for a long time and only come out after a while.

This is perhaps the reason Jesus said that there are some kind of demons that cannot come out without fasting. Mark 9:29 (KJV)

I don't know about you, but fasting has proven itself to be a very effective and useful weapon in my spiritual life, that even things I thought were impossible and beyond my reach, it helped me to achieve. It seems to speed up the process of my getting solutions and answers.

I recommend fasting to you, even if you do midnight prayers. It may provide the much needed boost your spiritual life has been crying out for.

God bless.
The reason those you termed NL Witches stopped engaging you in any discussion is because you're as predictable as a religious pharisee.
Perhaps if they saw any true substance of spiritual gifts in you and your good deeds, they'll be drawn to you and who knows perhaps be converted too.

Permit me to ask, With all your fasting and prayer, how many souls have you won to Christ even on NL?

People are going through real issues here how many people have you received revelation or prophecy about?
How many have received healing in the name of Christ through you?

Nigeria is getting worse day by day even though it boasts of more Christains than any other religion. Should you not be asking yourself this questions?

Anyway, fasting simply helps you discipline your flesh inclinations as you become more sensitive when you fast. Even your spiritual antenna pick up more signals when you fast.

Midnight prayer or day time is not the point. All we can learn from Jesus in the bible is that his prayers were regardless of time of the day, he simply avoided distractions and tried to find an isolated place to commune with God.
Midnight proves more effective simply because there are less distractions by midnight.
But for someone whose room is next to a club house, I can assure you that day time is more effective.

Shalom
HealthRe: Some Myth About Medications In Nigeria by Myer(m): 7:26pm On Oct 16, 2021
Dozis:
1. Antibiotics dry up blood when you take them and so it must be taken with blood supplements. This is very wrong, antibiotics do not dry blood, ask your doctor or pharmacist whatever you need to know when taking antibiotics.

2. The white vitamin C works better than the coloured one. The difference between the coloured and white vitamin C are the colourants and sweeteners used to manufacture the latter, ordinarily vitamin C does not have a sweet taste but sweeteners and colourants are incorporated into the active drug during compounding/manufacture to improve the taste and aesthetics, that's all.
The sour or sweet taste is not associated with efficacy.

3. Anti helminthics (worm expellers) should be taken after taking sugar or sugary food.
Some people say this is done to entice the worm to come out and eat the sugary food so that the drugs can act on it. This is one of the most hilarious stuff I've ever heard as a pharmacist, however it is not true, just take your worm expeller as prescribed by your doctor.

4. The more expensive the drug the more effective it is compared to another brand of the same drug. This is not always true, most times you are just buying a name or a brand.

5. The particular brand prescribed by the doctor is always the best, doctors are meant to prescribe generics so that the pharmacist will be at liberty to select the available brand and dispense to the patient, most times the patient may not have enough money to buy the particular brand prescribed and the proper thing to do would be to dispense an affordable but effective brand, there are some cases where some patients would be walking from Pharmacy to Pharmacy looking for a particular brand that was given to them in the hospital while there are several other brands that they can purchase that would do same thing.

6. Roadside drug sellers are more affordable than pharmacies and hospitals. This particular myth should be listed as one of the thousand ways to die in Nigeria, patronising quacks is a sure way to meet your maker quickly. In every pharmacy, there are usually up to 5 brands of the same drug and their prices are always different too, this is to cater for needs of everyone, wether high, medium or low class, when you get into the Pharmacy, tell the pharmacist the amount you have, the chances are high that he has the drug you want that you can afford at that price, apart from getting an affordable and effective medication, you also get a sound drug information. Also make it a habit to go to the hospital when you are not feeling fine, don't wait till it's too late, government hospitals are still cheap in Nigeria, just go on time.

7. Herbal medicines are safer than orthodox medicines. Some people forget that most orthodox drugs are sourced from natural sources, moreover a particular plant may contain thousands or millions of phytochemicals, some medicinal and some harmful.

You can state yours
You just made my day with this thread.
Kudos and Thx
Christianity EtcRe: ⚫⚫God Forgives Sins We Will Ever Do Throughout The Believers Eternity by Myer(m): 11:06pm On Oct 09, 2021
Bishopkingsley:
John 8:34, NIV: "Jesus replied, 'Very truly I tell you, everyone who sins is a slave to sin."

John 8:34, ESV: "Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who practices sin is a slave to sin."

What does John 8:34 mean?

Here Jesus uses the phrase translated as "truly, truly," or "very truly." This is from a doubled use of the Aramaic word amēn. Used at the end of a statement, as many cultures do in prayer even today, it suggests a hope that the words will be fulfilled, or that they are true. Used at the beginning of a statement, it is a claim to absolute, original, first-hand knowledge.

It's important to realize what Christ is saying here, and what He is not saying. Earlier, Jesus claimed to be the one and only source of spiritual truth, and that those who accepted Him would be set free from the enslavement of sin (John 7:37–38; John 8:12). Without question, Jesus is pointing out that sin is a mark of following darkness, instead of His light (1 John 1:5-10). Sin, by definition, means choosing earthly, worldly things over heavenly things.

What Jesus is not saying is that all sin, at all times, should be interpreted to mean that the sinner has no relationship to Christ. The Greek of this phrase makes this nuance much easier to understand than any English translation.

The exact phrasing used is pas ho poiōn ho hamartia doulos ho hamartia.

Literally, this means "everyone who keeps practicing sin is a slave of sin."

In other words, Jesus is now speaking of a habitual, persistent sin. Those who are free in Christ may stumble into darkness, but they do not perpetually "walk" in it (John 8:12).



What Jesus is not saying is that all sin, at all times, should be interpreted to mean that the sinner has no relationship to Christ. The Greek of this phrase makes this nuance much easier to understand than any English translation. The exact phrasing used is pas ho poiōn ho hamartia doulos ho hamartia. Literally, this means "everyone who keeps practicing sin is a slave of sin." In other words, Jesus is now speaking of a habitual, persistent sin. Those who are free in Christ may stumble into darkness, but they do not perpetually "walk" in it (John 8:12).

ochibuogwu5 note if Jesus was saying that once you belong to me that means once Jesus saves you then you go back to sin that it means you are now Satan slave then you repent and come back then you become my slave then ochibuogwu5

Ask yourself will that cycle stop because it will be daily thing because you and I know that we have sins that is uncountable and sin which you did not even know that you had done

But no that is not what Jesus is saying here because

12 ¶ Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.

Once Jesus saves you you no longer walk in darkness forever glory to God


Everyone is a slave in the spiritual sense. We are either slaves to sin, which is our natural state, or we are slaves to Christ. The writers of the New Testament willingly declared their status as slaves of Christ. Paul opens his letter to the Romans by referring to himself as a “slave of Jesus Christ” (Romans 1:1) and his letter to Titus by calling himself a “slave of God” (Titus 1:1). James opens his epistle the same way, “James, a slave of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ” (James 1:1). Most translations say “servant” or “bond-servant” in these passages, but the Greek word doulas means, literally, “slave.”

In John 8:34 Jesus tells the unbelieving Pharisees, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin.” He uses the analogy of a slave and his master to make the point that a slave obeys his master because he belongs to him. Slaves have no will of their own. They are literally in bondage to their masters. When sin is our master, we are unable to resist it. But, by the power of Christ to overcome the power of sin, “You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness” (Romans 6:18). Once we come to Christ in repentance and receive forgiveness for sin, we are empowered by the Holy Spirit forever the holy spirit who comes to live within us forever . It is by His power that we are able to resist sinning and become slaves of righteousness forever
I always enjoy how different believers (from the same church, using the same bible) have different interpretations for the same verses.

Well, I like your doctrine since it is not an extremist doctrine. Cos that's usually where i have issues with some believers.
CelebritiesRe: Reno Omokri: Singer Salle's Undefiled Innocence Should Not Be Spoilt (photos) by Myer(m): 10:59pm On Oct 09, 2021
Adakintroy:
That market belong to satan..ask wizkid they been converting soul s for a long time now.

Even as an innocent girl one of her line read "am coming to take your soul". Me I just hisss...this one is bone again but not of God na the other one get am no be by voice.
This is an offshoot off Reno's 2cents concerning the rebranding of Salle, the hawker with singing talent.

While Reno's argument is valid, it's also important to know that experts in the music industry understand what works.
Her rebranding (sex appeal) is definitely going to make her appeal to the male demographic especially.

Reno's point is simply that due to her mode of discovery, the rebranding was unnecessary. Which is probably true.

Honestly I dont think her voice is extraordinary, judging from her videos. Hence why her new management is employing the modus operandi that works. Which is not only depending on her talent alone but also on her sex appeal.

My argument was never to be generic in saying all female musicians capitalise on their sex appeal to sell their art.
CelebritiesRe: Niyola: Banky W’s EME Wanted To Market Me In A Sexy Way (Video) by Myer(m):
Dareywest001:
She's right!

she refused to conform into the fast failing moral standards characterizing the music industry!

music videos paraded women as cheap objects of mere sexual gratification. .

it takes a lot to stand out!

Bless you LADY!
Your post would make sense if she succeeded by doing it her way.
Morality was not the issue, she was simply being a diva cos she felt she had dated Freestyle (Shogun) and probably some other top guns so Banky couldn't teach her what works.

EME knows the music business. And sex appeal sells anywhere in the world.
I still can't fathom what she's talking about. Cos when you watch her projects under EME, Toh Bad and Go On you wonder what she was complaining about.

Only people who sing weird or alt music don't project sex appeal.
It's like a handsome buff guy protesting against showing his face or 6 packs in his videos.
Any way, her loss.

So if you ask me she had one of the best platforms and lost a great opportunity.
I actually was surprised when EME signed her when they did cos she was already past her prime even then talkless of now. They took a risk. And if not for Wizkid bringing in all the money I'm sure she would have run them down. Cos she had the best producers and video directors, models etc which cost big money for EME.

I remember her track with Sasha back in the day Emi Le Gan. Her hook was really sick.
Any way I still wish her all the best she can be.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by Myer(m): 8:41pm On Oct 06, 2021
Janosky:
According to your Bible grin
Hebrews 11:25 & 2 Chronicles 7:14, na there Moses pitch tent.
John 9:4, Isaiah 43:10,21 & Acts 3:13,na there Jesus Christ pitch tent.
Acts 15:14,17,na there all Jehovah's servants pitch tent.
JEHOVAH'S Witnesses,His servants & people chosen to bear His name.

C'est finis !
I thought he was delusional but you proved his malady is organisational.

Just to correct your heresy.

Jesus never started a group called Jehovah's witnesses.
Even the Apostles never started any group called Jehovah's witnesses.

In fact they avoided naming their sect so much that they only described it as The Way. Acts 9:2

The founders of Jehovah's witness just like every other denomination simply named their church after a verse they read and connected with. Hence Acts 1:8

Mind you the verse never mentioned Jehovah's witness. It simply said once the Christian's received the Holyspirit they would become witness of Him.

This is what your organisation was named after.

Now it does not mean God established a group called Jehovah's witnesses.
Ir simply means the founder of your organisation connected with Acts 1:8 and decided to name your church so.

Witnesses of Christ are way beyond any organisation, denomination or sect. The true witnesses of of Christ are those who follow The Way of Christ.
TV/MoviesRe: How BBNaija Viewers Voted For Queen, Nini, Saga, Angel And Pere by Myer(m): 8:33pm On Sep 26, 2021
lalasticlala:
This was how Big Brother Naija Viewers voted for Housemates in the 9th week:

Saga: 1.95%

Nini: 2.16%

Queen: 9.08%

Angel: 14.63%

Pere: 25.31%

Whitemoney: Not indicated
Pere even had more votes than Angel.
That alone proves that he was the strongest contender second only to Whitemoney.

It's a show so may the best man win.
Whitemoney for the money.
Car TalkRe: What"s The Meaning Of CE, VE, LE by Myer(m): 5:38pm On Sep 26, 2021
highskies:
Courtesy - Toyota
Thanks to you.
I always thought LE meant Limited Edition.
I was even about dragging those confidently saying otherwise. But can't argue with Toyota since your post is from them.
Christianity EtcRe: What Good Character Have You Developed Since You Started Attending Your Church? by Myer(m): 4:14pm On Sep 26, 2021
cutecommend:
If your going to church has not transformed your character in one way or the other, then it is either you are not serious with God or your church is not preaching the truth with power...

The church I am attending presently has helped me conquer lying and taught me to always say the truth. It has also helped me to value integrity and dislike malpractice. God used them to help me.

How has your church helped you in your character?
But Christian's like you preach to non-christians that even if their religion (or lack of) produces good character in them it is still wrong. So why is your yardstick for measuring godliness now good character?
Christianity EtcRe: Limousine: Pastor Kumuyi, What They Expected Of Him Vs What He Came With (Photo) by Myer(m): 4:11pm On Sep 26, 2021
Iseoluwani:
Rccg in all its doctrine is strict Bro. We make sure everything is of biblical standard. Same with deeper.
Don't be an idiot.
Have you forgotten that some RCCG pastors committed suicide just last year because of the religious doctrines of your church?
They would rather die than be put to the ridicule and shame your church doctrines would subject them to. So much for forgiveness while disciplining erring workers in love.

The poster was not on a dick swinging contest with whose church is better or stricter or more perfect.

He was simply letting you know that Deeper life has grown from their earlier doctrines which most people are not aware of.

But rather you just could not resist the foolish urge to prove that your own church RCCG is just "perfect."
Christianity EtcRe: Limousine: Pastor Kumuyi, What They Expected Of Him Vs What He Came With (Photo) by Myer(m): 4:05pm On Sep 26, 2021
thesicilian:
It started with the television which he called "the devil's box" suddenly becoming a "ministry tool".
Now it's limo rides and jets. If you ask they'll say their God is not a poor God. My question is, the poor members who donate their sweat and blood for the ministry to move forward daily, is their God a poor God?
The truth is Christianity is a growth process.

There will be a time in your growth process when God needs to deliver you from greed, materialism and other vices. Doesn't mean Godis against being rich or enjoying the good things he created.

Then there will be a time when God will trust you be able handle those materialistic things because you have learnt the lessons he needed to teach you.
Of course I don't mean it's the same way for everyone.

My guess is he made a doctrine while still in his growth process that has now begun to haunt him now that he has grown and knows better.

Anyway, i salute the God's general.
CelebritiesRe: Tonto Dikeh Laments As Son Destroys Devices Worth Millions Of Naira (VIDEO) by Myer(m): 4:01pm On Sep 26, 2021
Rotiix:
The son is protesting against her way of life
Even the holiest pastors children destroy worse.
Don't remain foolish at your old age.
Christianity EtcRe: Living A Perfect Christian Life Is Hard But Possible by Myer(m): 10:32am On Sep 26, 2021
Truvelisback:
Living a perfect christian life is hard but it's possible. To some, the christian life is easy probably because of their wealth, nice cars, beautiful houses etc. Our human needs too makes christianity hard too. e.g our need 4 money, happy marriage, children, happy home, good job etc.

Hardship, poverty, childlessness, marital delay, broken home etc, make it difficult too for one to live a perfect christian life.

In summary, living a perfect christian life as a human (having a flesh and blood) is really hard but it's possible. It's neither easier 4 the rich but it's more harder 4 the poor. My own point of view.
Have you even read your bible?
You'll realise it's supposedly harder for the rich.

This is what Jesus Christ himself said;

it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

This was his reply to a rich Jew who wanted to follow him and inherit eternal life;
Now Jesus also concluded that it is impossible for man but with God it is possible.

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