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Christianity EtcRe: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Myer(op): 7:42am On Oct 26, 2021
Janosky:
I want you to read this verse clearly and pay attention to these points luminously espoused by Yahweh.

#1
@ Genesis 6:6-7, is Yahweh the true God 'Him'?
Trinity shege grin

#2
Genesis 6:5-7 did Yahweh foreknow that " the wickedness of man" will be "great"?
Omniscience shege grin

#3
Is Myer a mistake of Creation?
@ Genesis 6:5-7, did God make mistake?
No !
Genesis 1:31, Man & Everything Yahweh created "is very good."
Myer, is there any mistake in what Yahweh has declared "is very good"?
Bros, your food for serious thought


Genesis 6:5-7
5And YHWH sees that the wickedness of man [is] abundant in the earth, and every imagination of the thoughts of his heart [is] only evil every day; 6and YHWH regrets that He has made man in the earth, and He grieves Himself—to His heart. 7And YHWH says, “I wipe away man whom I have created from off the face of the ground, from man to beast, to creeping thing, and to bird of the heavens, for I have regretted that I have made them."

Yahweh is grieved at the wickedness of man and man's wicked heart inclined towards evil.
Hébrew lexicon 5162 references several emotions such compassion, grief, remorse etc
Forget about me or my inklings
Even in your specially edited JW bible, according to the verses I posted, God himself regretted (repented) that he created Man (Human beings) and beasts (animals) and He decided it was best he destroyed all he had created.

Dows that not mean that as at the end of this verse he concluded that it was a mistake creating human beings?

Of course God being so gracious, decided to spare the family of Noah, not because Noah was perfect but simply because he was relatively more righteous than others and God wanted to see if through him there was still hope of a perfect world.

But alas, Noah himself was found unrighteous hence the reason evil has continued to grow at an exponential rate from generation to generation.

I am not misinterpreting the bible and no amount of meditation can change the fact that God decided to wipe out the whole of mankind and even every beast (animal) on earth. Because he regretted creating man
Christianity EtcRe: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Myer(op): 7:40am On Oct 26, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
I didn't want to talk about it since he believes i always talk about Jehovah's Witnesses so i want him to see what his so called Christian friends could make out of the word of God. But one just have to help him see that God's word is to be read with meditation before he can understand it! Proverbs 2:1-5 smiley
Forget about me or my inklings
According to the verses I posted, God himself regretted (repented) that he created Man (Human beings) and decided it was best he destroyed all he had created.

Does that not mean as at the time of this verse he concluded that it was a mistake creating human beings?

Of course God being so gracious, decided to spare the family of Noah, not because Noah was perfect but simply because he was relatively more righteous than others and God wanted to see if through him there was still hope of a perfect world.

But alas, Noah himself was found unrighteous hence the reason evil has continued to grow at an exponential rate from generation to generation.

I am not misinterpreting the bible and no amount of meditation can change the fact that God decided to wipe out the whole of mankind and even every beast (animal) on earth. Because he regretted creating man.
Christianity EtcRe: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Myer(op): 2:02pm On Oct 24, 2021
Janosky:
Your 3 gods of man made Trinity can make mistake but the only true God is so very perfect, Numbers 23:19.
What do you make of this verses without allowing your emotion or creed cloud your interpretation.

Genesis 6:5-7
And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

7 And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do You Go To Church? by Myer(m): 9:12am On Oct 24, 2021
NaijaSatanlst:
If you want to get scammed, go to a Nigerian church
Your moniker, do you really worship satan?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do You Go To Church? by Myer(m):
hopefulLandlord:
because most people do?
Especially when your neighbours and family members have ascribed everyone who doesnt go to church to the devil. So to fulfill all righteousness you just do even if its once in a month.lol
Foreign AffairsRe: Why Kenyan Churches Are Banning Politicians From Pulpits by Myer(m): 8:38am On Oct 24, 2021
Icejayz:
In Nigeria, it's the other way round, churches are now business centers
Oyedepo actually visited Atiku to endorse him for the last election.
Adeboye obviously biased due to Osinbajo who pastors one of his churches also endorsed Buhari.

Anyway, I dont see this trend ending anytime soon in Nigeria.
Money they (our pastors) say is the engine of the gospel.
PoliticsRe: Snubbed By Tinubu In London, Osinbajo Ready For Presidential Fight Of His Life by Myer(m): 8:29am On Oct 24, 2021
NwaAmaikpe:
shocked



We've seen it over and over again, so we can agree that betrayal comes naturally with politicians and those people.

The least the pastor should have done is to show some little gratitude to the man who has made him who he is today.
And I don't mean Tinubu, I mean God.

He has not defended or propagated the growth and sustainance of Christianity in Nigeria despite being Vice-President.

So if he can put Christ in the back burner of his affairs as VP, then who is Tinubu, the other person whom we can attribute who he is today to?

Who is Tinubu that he should leave his delegated assignments in Abuja and run to visit in London because of mere athritis and Rheumatism.

Who is Tinubu that Osinbanjo should jettison his Presidential ambition for?

Being a great Christian, Osinbanjo knows the story of David and Goliath and how God picked unassuming David instead of his bulky, well-built elder brothers.

If Tinubu and Osinbanjo square up at the polls, the beatings Oleksandr Usyk gave Anthony Johnson will look like a mere rehearsal for what Tinubu will receive.
You of all people should know better.
It's not every thing you read online that you should believe.
This is apparently a strategy by this unknown party to make themselves relevant.

While I dont endorse a Tinubu presidential ambition,I dont see why Tinubu would avoid Osinbajo.

If truly Osinbajo was unable to get a meeting with Tinubu in London it ust have simply been a case of scheduling issues. As at the time Osinbajo and Adebayo came to London,Tinubu already made other plans.
Yes, we may argue that he could have cancelled other plans for them but then again he's a politician,his other plans 0probably more politically significant.

I expected you to know the power of manipulation of the social media.
PoliticsRe: Patrick Osagie Eholor On EndSARS: I Left Heaven In Canada To See Hell In Nigeria by Myer(m): 8:59pm On Oct 21, 2021
micronut:
Chief Patrick Osagie Eholor aka Ultimate Equal
a Canadian Based Nigerian and an indigene of Edo State, who was manhandled and arrested in Lagos yesterday, at the ENDSARS MEMORIAL protest, recounts his ordeal in the hands of the police after he was released yesterday night.

He said, he left Canada where it feels like heaven to pay his solidarity by joining the protest in Lagos, and his experience in detention felt like hell in Nigeria, as the was no food, no way to pee among many discomforts.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsabdQvtUJg

Patrick Eholor aka Ultimate Equal has been part of many social protest in Nigeria in the past, which are evident by searching for his name online, where he has always been addressing press and leading certain groups, in what he calls a way to fight for good governance in Nigeria.

Yesterday, a wide call for his immediate release has been made to the Lagos State Police Command.



https://www.instagram.com/tv/CVR_9vmArDW/?utm_medium=copy_link
The purpose of Endsars has been forgotten and reduced to only the shooting at Lekki Toll Gate.

Christianity EtcRe: Battle At Synagogue, Trustee Alleges Threat To Live, TB Joshua's Daughter Reacts by Myer(m): 7:03pm On Oct 21, 2021
SARSCoV2:
Why I like Oyedepo

He has already told all his members that his son is taking over from him after his demise. Their wont be tussle for power like what we seeing now.
But that is actually unchristian.
It means he sees Winners Chapel as his church and not God's church and he runs it as a family business.
HealthRe: Why Is That Nigerian Girls Don't Fear STD? by Myer(m):
luizpippo:
Kwantinue sharing upandan.
This is the problem with Nigerians.
Most of you are hypocrites.

You are obviously selectively blind to the part where I said we treated ourselves both painfully and expensively.
Besides my babe, I never shared the STI to anyone.

But you are probably living with more STIs than a monkey.
Cos anyone who has any sense would understand my post and appreciate our swift treatment.

But an ignorant hypocrite who is probably a chronic fornicator yet leading praise and worship in his/her church will obviously miss the point of my post.
Christianity EtcRe: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Myer(op): 10:16pm On Oct 19, 2021
BluntTheApostle:
But chimpanzees are intelligent beings. And by your earlier claim, persons are not necessarily human beings.
Chimpanzees are not persons.
Let this argument end already.

I wish yall would contribute to the subject of the thread.
Derailing every thread is what Max is known for.
HealthRe: Why Is That Nigerian Girls Don't Fear STD? by Myer(m):
luizpippo:
Choi


Sharing STIs upandan
Well we treated it before there was any other sharing.

Don't be a hypocrite.
You're probably the one spreading STIs now.

I advice that once you know you've been careless, get tested and treated.
PhonesRe: Which Phone Are You Currently Using by Myer(m): 9:10pm On Oct 19, 2021
BaddieFreak:
Which phone are you currently using?
Leggo

Me: IPhone 12 Pro max
Only broke and fake people open threads like this.
Especially broke girls that know how much they had to spend their body count to acquire the phone.

When you were using a Tecno phone why didn't you open this thread?
Broke azz cheap ho.
HealthRe: Why Is That Nigerian Girls Don't Fear STD? by Myer(m): 9:06pm On Oct 19, 2021
bodybuilder:
I'm just curious, it seems that's only guys that are cautious of not catching some disease through sex. Most girls won't suggest condom if you don't suggest it first. These girls dey fear me. Most girls aren't scared going raw. E be like say na only guys dey fear am. What could be the reason for this?
Cos condom sex is not as pleasurable.
So it's a risk they're more willing to take than guys.

I once confessed to my babe that I might have contracted an STI at a wild night at a friend's Bach eve. Guess what, she did not mind she still insisted on skin to skin.

We both had to treat the STI which was both painful and expensive.
Christianity EtcRe: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Myer(op): 7:50pm On Oct 19, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Messiah will be killed and Jerusalem will be destroyed and from then on war will ever continue to ravage Jerusalem! Daniel 9:26

Jesus was killed, Jerusalem was destroyed in the year 66 ce, ever since then Jerusalem has continued to experience wars until now!

He will be counted worthy to die among transgressors, and his sacrificial death will be for the redemption of many souls!Isaiah 53:12
Jesus was executed along with criminals! Matthew 27:38
And he gave his life as a propitiatory sacrifice for the sin of the world! John 3:16 smiley
But wars have continued to ravage Jerusalem.
Even recently this year.
Christianity EtcRe: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Myer(op): 6:30pm On Oct 19, 2021
sonmvayina:
Is there anywhere from Genesis to Malachi where it was written that the creator will send his son to come and die for sin of mankind? If you have it point it to me. I will wait. The jews are saying it did not originate from them and have nothing to do with them, the Messiah their God promised them is a human king that is coming to rule in an era of peace.

So where did the authors of the So called new testament get the idea of a dying son of god?

Dont beat about the bush, just answer me and let's see whether dummy is?
Well it was supposedly a mystery so that the devil would not be able to prevent it. 1 Corinthians 2:8

But the closest reference in the OT would be Isaiah 53 emphasis on verse 7.

Your question is very valid though as this is why till date most Jews do not accept Jesus as the Messiah.
Christianity EtcRe: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Myer(op): 5:30pm On Oct 19, 2021
sonmvayina:
Lol..so funny.
God is responsible for both good and evil. Only his will is done. He is in perfect control of all his creation. To think otherwise is an insult.
Isaiah 45:7
We have a lot of rubbing of minds to do.
You just may be right.
Christianity EtcRe: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Myer(op): 5:16pm On Oct 19, 2021
sonmvayina:
The devil is a Christian invention. It does not exist in ibo traditional religion or yoruba or Judaism.

Demons, angels are natural laws and principles..
The yorubas calls them orishas...
Well. The devil is in various religions in different names.
If God is behind good. The devil is behind evil meaning Esu is the devil in yoruba.
Hades is the devil in Greek mythology, etc.
CelebritiesRe: Kanye West Officially Changes Name To "Ye" by Myer(m): 4:40pm On Oct 19, 2021
LofiLogic:
This nigga get mental problems I swear

Christianity EtcRe: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Myer(op): 4:29pm On Oct 19, 2021
hupernikao:
grin grin

No one can defend God. His word are self sufficient. So what I am doing isn't defence for God but putting things right the way it should be read.

The whole of the Bible is filled with the echos of the Eden story. Life, death, good, evil.
So extracting the meaning of eden story using the Gen 2-3 narrative alone will put you in a pit error.

You must ensure your interpretation aligned with

1. what Moses taught all through his books

2. what the prophets taught

3. what Jesus and his apostles taught.

[/I] That alignment must be seen all through to know if you have the right interpretation[/i].

That is the foundation of all good doctrines.

So, what I give as explanation aren't my opinion so far it aligned with the whole story of the Bible in the mouth of all its writers.

A quick check of your own interpretation, will let you know, that your line of thought will fall flat when tested with other Bible narratives, events and practices that has the same resemblance.

God doesn't change, his principles and requirements are the same all through. Hence, if we can't see this resemblance in your explanation, then it's not the true explanation.



So, as a primer,

Basic things you must ask,

What is life?
Why did Moses used tree?

Is there a tree ever, that you will see "fruit of life" on it?

How was tree of life used by other authors?

How was fruits used and why?

These are important question to ask before reaching a conclusion.


Bear in mind that, Moses wrote in a time that knowledge is very little and the culture and practice of their world were mostly Agrarian not office workers.
Hence when you read most ancient books of their age, you will see usage of fruits, trees, land, sheep, shepherd water etc.

That's must not be lost in your explanation.




In conclusion, you can't read an ancient book with the mindset of a millennia, you must travel back in time to their days to understand the reasons for the language, culture, words and events used in their text. This must be applied to the story of Genesis too.
Riddle me this.
If we are to take the story of the Garden of Eden as figurative.
Why was its location well described with the various rivers and tributaries?

If we are to take it as figurative what does it mean that God banished Adam and Eve from the Garden and what does it mean that Cherubs were placed to guard man from reentry?
CelebritiesRe: Daddy Freeze: Tiwa Savage Sex Tape Will Stay In My Head For A Long Time (Video) by Myer(m): 4:20pm On Oct 19, 2021
Zetty177x:
Don't we all do it?
This is vague, do what? The smashing or bashing?
CelebritiesRe: Daddy Freeze: Tiwa Savage Sex Tape Will Stay In My Head For A Long Time (Video) by Myer(m):
Grandmeister:
There's no hypocrisy here so shut da fvck up! We all fvck in our privacy but we don't go about recording it. That is the first telltale sign that the guy saw her as cheap lay. No man records a girl he values during sex!
You're obviously still too young and naive to even be in this conversation.

Let me educate you.

1. She is a celebrity. Meaning she's a target for blackmailers.
Why do you think CR7, Neymar even some of your favourites have rape cases hanging over their heads?

2. "No man records a girl he values during sex?" You say.
Most times yes, but sometimes you experiment in relationships and there's an excitement and freakiness when you both agree to film your "sexion". Emphasis on mutual agreement.
Though this usually doesnt end well after break up.lol

3. It was probably a mistake as she claimed. And got in the hands of a 3rd party.

Until you understand these, you have no business in this conversation.
Christianity EtcRe: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Myer(op): 3:01pm On Oct 19, 2021
sonmvayina:
Yes it is...personified means to give it human attributes...
Man has learnt to tell stories around camp fires. It does not mean the stories are real or actual. They are meant to convey a message. We are expected to learn the message they contain. The letter killeth..

Like I said , God is the universe itself, and we are part of it. Those stories where told and written to educate us on our relationship with the universe and with ourselves and our surroundings...the basic purpose is to live in peace...
Now while I agree with some of points about the stories helping to educate man about the relation with God, I must disagree that not all religions refer to God as the universe.
In fact a Christian would find it insulting if you refer to God as the universe.

To you, God might be the universe.
But if I may ask, if God is the universe what does that make the devil?
CelebritiesRe: Blackmail: Fans React As Video Of Tiwa Savage, Lover Surfaces by Myer(m): 2:57pm On Oct 19, 2021
StUriah:
After seeing the act as it was being performed by the two entertainers & the repeated mourning of the most popular female Singer in Nigeria i can't get it off my head since it shows how someone like Tiwa that we regarded so much could be so irresponsible. By the way, how does she think her own child, family, close relations & business partners would feel at this moment?

Tiwa really fvcked up gan an ni o!

You left your marriage because your poor husband cheated on you only to be fvcking random boys of lesser age here & there.
Hypocrite.
Who made you her judge?
Your "sexcapades" go soon cast.
Christianity EtcRe: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Myer(op): 2:50pm On Oct 19, 2021
sonmvayina:
God is the universe personified...not a being.

Trinity is an insult against the lugal dimmer ankia.
Personified... Meaning a person.

You feel it's an insult to refer to God as a person?
CelebritiesRe: Daddy Freeze: Tiwa Savage Sex Tape Will Stay In My Head For A Long Time (Video) by Myer(m): 2:48pm On Oct 19, 2021
NwaAmaikpe:
shocked




Tomorrow they'd criticize NwaAmaikpe for openly being an advocate of masturbation and raw sex when they are worse hypocrites in private.

Was it just me or did anyone else see that despite being rammed without protection, Tiwa Savage was also masturbating?

Tomorrow one stupid NGO will make her girl child ambassador while I remain the pervert for saying in the open what others do in private.
Why are you attacking Tiwa?
She never claimed to be holy or said she was celibate.

She was simply careless to trust the wrong person.

Hypocrites are those bashing her online but doing the same or even worse offline.
Christianity EtcRe: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Myer(op): 2:43pm On Oct 19, 2021
sonmvayina:
We are God. We are one seeing ourselves divided, we are 2, 4 ,8........We are all suffering from the illusion of separation.

We are all God's spirit dwelling within a physical body fashioned from the DUST of the earth.. same spirit different bodies having different experiences...
This revelation is all that matters.
Even more important is when it is spiritually revealed and properly conceptualized in the mind and manifest in the soul.
That is the state of Enlightenment.
Christianity EtcRe: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Myer(op): 2:41pm On Oct 19, 2021
sonmvayina:
God is not a person. Numbers 23:19. Worshipping anything that has form is tantamount to idolatry. God is the universe itself. It is the universal consciousness personified.
We are part of God and God is part of us...

Learn, unlearn and relearn..
If God is a being, then he is a person.
Why are we arguing this?

Even the trinititarian doctrine is that God is 3 persons in 1.
Christianity EtcRe: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Myer(op): 2:37pm On Oct 19, 2021
hupernikao:
My wonderful brother.
I trust you have been doing great.


On the topic.
Everything you wrote here are not found on the pages of the Bible. They are solely your very own interpretation.

When you read the Bible properly and the very texts you intend to explain, you will see that all that is listed as mistakes were only your very own insinuation and not biblical facts.

For example,
Your understanding of the events in Eden missed the whole essence and Moses would have put you in a remedial class for failing this.


Truly, I would have loved to pick your list one by one but, it will be a big sacrifice of time to give the details of all you wrote.

In simplicity, your write up is asking for explanation of the whole Bible, 66 books, 783,137 words (KJV) to be discussed on a NL thread.
It would be preferable to pull an elephant through the needle's eye, than to do such explanation here.
Brotherly. I trust you're doing great.
I assure you everything I said here were extracted from the pages of the bible.
How it is my interpretation remains subject of debate.

1. Did God not place the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the same garden as the tree of life?

I assume your claim is also that the events of the garden of eden were simply figurative right?
Its that not also simply your own interpretation?

2. I simply highlighted 7 points on the subject of the thread not the whole bible sir.

I'm actually curious to hear your "unbiased and unsentimental" counterpoints.
Since your normal inclination as a Christian is to defend God and his actions as a Muslim is inclined to defend Allah and Mohammed.
Christianity EtcRe: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Myer(op): 11:15pm On Oct 17, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Jesus never ever challenged God's word rather he was challenging those claiming to be custodians of the law:

Then Jesus spoke to the crowds and to his disciples, saying: “The scribes and the Pharisees have seated themselves in the seat of Moses. Therefore, all the things they tell you, do and observe, but do not do according to their deeds, for they say but they do not practice what they say! Matthew 23:1-3

Do you still think Jesus challenged God's laws with the highlighted in red? smiley
Matthew 5:38-48 Here Jesus quotes the laws of Moses and gives an even better way. He must have been an atheist according to you for daring to challenge the old laws. Clearly you should spend more time with your bible than your JW publications.

“You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. If anyone wants to sue you and take away your tunic, let him have your cloak also. And whoever compels you to go one mile, go with him two. Give to him who asks you, and from him who wants to borrow from you do not turn away. “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet your brethren only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors do so? Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.
Christianity EtcRe: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Myer(op): 8:00pm On Oct 17, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
If you agree that Jesus started a group then which of all the groups today is following the footsteps of Jesus and his disciples just as they did in the first century?

Remember Jesus said there will be false prophets and they will mislead many {Matthew 24:11} and Jesus said you will know the difference between right and wrong groups by their FRUITS {Matthew 7:16-18} then how come you don't care about which of all these different sects claiming Christians that's practicing what Jesus taught? smiley

Well that's why you're doubting God's word because you don't want the truth! John 8:32

You're picking verses and saying there are mistakes in God's word, what else stops you from becoming an atheist? cheesy
Jesus challenged the Laws of Moses in the old testament, does that make him an atheist too?
Christianity EtcRe: God Never Makes Mistakes? Some Undeniable Mistakes From The Bible by Myer(op): 7:59pm On Oct 17, 2021
helinues:
Not God's mistakes but concocted bull shit stories to suit the narrators ideology.

Abi when did God turn to a real estate agent that made him to be sharing lands to the Israelites..

Na so so conquered the land we dey read, was the conquered land unoccupied before the conquering?
Interestingly, your point would make no sense to a Christian but an irreligious person would see so much sense in this.

Cos the things the Israelites did in the name of God are the same things ISIS and BH are doing in the name of Allah.

If a Christian condemns BH and ISIS then those acts of God in the old testament should be termed as mistakes.

The irony is that God rejected King Saul simply because while God commanded him to kill women, children and cattle of the Amalekites, he decided to preserve them and kill only the men who were the warriors and preserve the innocent.

Sounds like another mistake by God to me.
Cos this meant that God would have to kill all of the Philistines, Edomites, etc including all of us who were termed as Gentiles.

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