₦airaland Forum

Happy New Year Missy_B!

Happy New Year, JeSoul!

@op
I think Femi Fani-Kayode is "The Problem". Mrs Iweala sure is a part of the problem but it is the years of stealing by the likes of Mr Fani-Kayode that have brought us to this pass.

Em, a Dec 31 bombing is only as bad as any day bombing - well, for those of us who don't set too much store by days or moons. Please tell those saints to CONTINUE the good work.

Have my brains surgically removed so I can finally land a big post in Abuja - minister, IGP, senate president, CJN, anything.

mukina2:
Where will you go?

what will you do?

what will you cook?

Would love nothing more than to cruise around town on a Kawasaki Ninja (2011 model) with Mukina on the passenger seat and to take her for dinner at a Chinese restaurant afterwards.

^^^ He he. Carry go, but lemme clarify a point for you. This:

frosbel:
For example once a Zionist and now an ex- Zionist. This is contrary to the silly Abu Musab al-Zaqawi reference. I eschew violence and cherish peace and love for all mankind.

You eschew violence because Christianity eschews violence. Mr Zaqawi, on the other hand, was born and raised in a Salafist environment and the Salafists glorify violence. Luckily for you you weren't raised in that environment. If you were raised in that environment and we replace the Bible with the Quran inside your head, you would have been a Zaqawi, as he did not even possess half of your passion. That was my point in the "silly Abu Musab al-Zaqawi" reference. Thank you. 

freepeople:
No need to vote. None of my favourite atheist name appeared at the poll

Actually the three nominees are colourful enough to appeal across divides and it will be a shame if you can’t pick one. So lemme help you. 

Enigma

If the nom de guerre conjures up images of Kim Jong-Il, the Dear Leader who just kicked the bucket, you would have gone astray. For our own Enigma is within the realms of scrutablility. At least, his motivations are. Obviously a good Christian and a brilliant man propelled by a mission to use peaceful means to defend Christianity against its enemies, Engima’s reputation was not built on long posts or even sustained exchanges and debates. He prefers cryptic posts, often in form of quips or questions, some of which have several layers of meaning, some of which leave you scratching your jaw.

To many Christians on this forum, Enigma is the scourge of atheists. To others, the man sometimes comes across as an aspiring Brobdinag who squints down his nose at you to let you know that what you wrote is not worthy of his response,  in fact he was not responding to it but just wanted to respond and say… Some posters once resorted to invoking AS after his name. And you disagree with Enigma at the risk of having what you wrote described as “idiocy” or “nonsense”.

Whenever he is not hurling well-aimed stones at his bête noires, the “evangelical atheists” or “anti-Christians”, Enigma likes to leave them alone to focus on exposing evil plagiarists, except that, well, those just happen to be “evangelical atheists” or “anti-Christians”.


Joagbaje

Easily the most persecuted person in the Nairaland religious section, Joagbaje is not your everyday Nairalander. Some love him. Others despise him. And those who despise him sure know how to go about their business of despising. Joagbaje is a man of conviction. He is a pastor, has good knowledge of the Bible (Chukwudi44 and others insist he “twists” it) and has interesting perspectives on things Christian. You open a thread in this section and Joagbaje makes a post with copious scriptural references. He is known to be an admirer of Paul who he considers a superapostle, (at least, when compared to the likes of James, who Jo declares a “baby Christian”). Maybe Jo is simply a man who has accepted a church as God’s mouthpiece and will defend to his last breath anything dished out by the leadership of that church. Maybe he “knows what he is doing” and is out to twist the Bible to serve certain interests as his enemies say. I don’t know. However, I doubt some of the things Joagbaje preaches will make sense to himself ordinarily, but in a religious context, they don’t have to. Now, that is not strange, as it this applies to most religious folk. So to understand Joagbaje’s travails we need to look deeper. You need to understand Nairaland Christianity and its divisions and undercurrents.

Nairaland Christians can be divided into three wings. (1) the “emerging Christian” wing – those who say tithing is haram and that, while churches are useful, Christians can worship God as led “by the spirit” and do not have to submit to a “man of God” in a regulated environment; (2) the tithing group – those who say Christians must pay the tithe and offer first fruit and prophet offerings and that prosperity is a “part and parcel” of the Christian package and that deregulated Christianity is bad for the masses; (3) the reactionary group – those who will  make the Sadducees look like reformers, generally supporting tithing but rejecting group two’s tendency to lift certain aspects of the Bible above others, and have unshakeable commitment to Biblical inerrancy, believing that the Bible, as presently interpreted by “anointed men”, is the complete guide, which should be followed without applying common sense or countenancing scientific findings, and that all non-Christians are galloping to hellfire with first class tickets.

Group  2, which is made up mainly of Christ Embassy members, love Joagbaje to bits. Group 3, ably driven by OLAADEGBU and Image123, are ambivalent about Joagbaje. Group 1, which has greats like nuclearboy, KunleOshob and alethea, despise Joagbaje. They are the ones who made him popular. The response to Joagbaje by this group is almost like clockwork. Once he speaks, they attack him. But for the most part the man has stood head and shoulders above it all. Joagbaje’s refusal to get drawn into mudslinging and insults, rather than his religious views, is what stands him out to readers of this section who ordinarily have no interest in what he is selling or in the intra-Christian debates.

Frosbel

Frosbel is a crusader. A Christian advocate. A Bible exponent. He is a writer, a doodler, a scribbler. He has only one mission in his cyberlife: to expose falsehood and establish the supremacy of the Christian project. (By falsehood, of course, we mean anything frosbel considers falsehood and frosbel has a quick opinion on everything.) He has a highly developed falsehood detection radar. Note that I didn’t say he is pretty good at detecting falsehood. I said he has a military grade falsehood detection radar. And we’re not talking Ecomog kalashnikovers here, we’re talking naval SEAL covert ops!

Frosbel is not a philosopher and is not into debating and all. He simply likes to bring them to their knees and slaughter them. If he was a politician, he would most closely resemble Josef Stalin. If he was a Moslem, he would be Abu Musab al-Zaqawi. Frosbel is a shooter, a puncher, a cleaver. He does not take any prisoners. On his emergence and metamorphosis, I wrote this about him in another thread:

Reminds me of the days back in the Foreign Affairs section when he was the resident Zionist in chief. You uttered an unflattering word against the State of Israel and he made straight for your throat, a pointed knife in each hand. Then one cool summer day he discovered that he had been duped and Israel was no longer his God's beloved. And, horror of horrors, that was how the Jewish state lost its most aggresive backer on this Land and Netanyahu and co no longer did no wrong.

Soon after, he took this this section by storm, firing from all cylinders. His targets? Muslims, atheists, Catholics, JWs, Methodists, Jews, WOFs - just anyone but himself. Not since the days of Abuzola the Great had we been witnesses to anything like it. Not that his considerable writing skills would let you compare him to Abu. An atheist soon opined that he was on steroids! But he wasn't. Just a passionate man, frosbel.

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Political permutations
Since the three nominees are Christians, Joagbaje may win for the simple reason that the non-Christians are likely to vote for him out of sympathy or respect for his principled manner of standing up to his traducers - most times. But Frosbel can win, the majority of active participants here are, afterall, Christians. Besides, Joagbaje won it last year and that might work against him in the minds of many. And, of course, Enigma can very well come from the back to spring a surprise. Let the other two underestimate an enigma at their own risk.   

manmustwac:
you left it late and your the first and only person to vote for those three people.

You erred about leaving it late and about being the first for all three. Check the "last day" you stated in your op and read all posts in thread.

Deep Sight
Jayriginal
Zikky

[quote author=Missy ★ B link=topic=817011.msg9685878#msg9685878 date=1322926685]Garri and chicken?  That's a new one . . .I'm so going to try it.  [/quote]Make sure it's roasted spiced chicken. Have done it before and it's great.

claremont:
your very own bible clearly states that s-ex before marriage is a sin (fornication), and those who do it are going to end up in hell. It is clearly written in the verse I highlighted above,

Arn't you making definition assumtions and jumping ahead of the Bible here? Perhaps you want to highlight (1) where "it is clearly written in the verse" anything about "s-ex before marriage", and (2) where it talks about anyone going to hell.

Ezniteadin:
I saw his Pe…………,
Hole where sp…………,  come out
Vi………,  and all kinds

I see you are a very elderly man and an inverterate prude. Maybe Mr Olukoya said vulgar things but we don't find any in the examples you gave. Pe/nis, spe/rm and va/ginal are perfectly normal English words used to describe body parts in civilised speeches. A "message" about "fornicators" who dance on the gates of hell, or any "message" at all, may include such words. With respects, sir, you need to learn and appreciate the differences between names of body parts and the se/xual act and their vulgar equivalents.

The Egypt-Israel situation you painted could well come to pass, but note the Muslim Brotherhood arn't suiciders like the Tamil Tigers and won't risk a full scale war. The Egyptian Army won't have it anyway. The US will strike targets inside Iran, partly of its own accord and partly to prevent Israel having to do it, but a full-scale invasion is unlikely. The Chinese will arm Syria and talk but won't attack the US to save the dainty neck of Assad or the turbaned necks of the Iranian mullahs. They have too much to lose and know Shanghai and Guangdhou will be wiped out in any full-scale war. Everyone knows how satanic the Americans are in these matters. It will be a domb move, anyway. If the US is crawling and the rest of the world is running for the next 10 years they won't march its air superiority. Everything I have said about China applies to Russia.

Sometime in the coming year, Assad will go in disgrace - like Ben Ali or like Ghadaffi, I'm not sure. Iran may see a few bombs dropped but that will be it. There will be no WW3 and you will feel safe enough to continue exposing "falsehood" on your i-pad.

Laffing out loud!

I'm good. I trust you are doing great, too.

^^^ According to our friends here, Jesus wine = tomato juice. So to answer your question, he was drinking tomato juice.

Donalds N:
Hey guys! Inasmuch as we want the name of the MP, it is unethical and unconstitutional for the journalist to mention the name of the suspect. It is still under investigation. U read wat d police inspector told d journalist wen contacted. Lets just hope dat d police can do dia binding duty this time, by exposing and prosecuting d person

Are you saying that normal police procedure says the name of a suspect should not be made public until investigations are complete? Can you cite the relevant laws laws please? Is this what you normally see when you read the papers? Ok, let's say the police and the press were being careful not to "jeopardise" investigation, what say you about the case of poor Miss Chetachi Obi whose name has been splashed all over the papers and the internet? Is there a set of laws for the poor and another for the powerful?

And knowing our police and the way things work - or don't work - in Nigeria, don't you think the press would better serve the public interest by revealing the name early since a powerful person is involved and the chances of a cover-up are high?

lonamy:
Chetachi Obi, is PA to Hon. Nkeiru Onyejiocha

This is what I have been waiting for someone to tell us. Easy enough.

I'm quite surprised many have not tried this. This is my normal way of preparing egusi soup - maybe because I use it for my white rice, as I don't care much for the regular tomato stew. You can mix the egusi with tomato paste and fry together or treat the tomato separately, particularly if it is the ground stuff.

akanxpress:
Yes, I have tried It,
To kill the bitter tomatoes taste, fry the tomatoes in plenty oil, till the paste sticks to the bottom of the pot, you can add ogbono & fry - if you want it a bit draw or okra or melon based. The end product it reddish, nutritious and tasty. Can add either fluted pumpkin, green or bitter leaf. There is no need to add spices like stew. But you can eat it with garri, rice, yam, spaghetti, bread, etc.
I like inventions, so I must not always stick to so called traditions. Let explore and break new grounds and invent
Thanks

Yeah! You do have an invention there^^^.

dominique:
i'm with you on that one. soooo disgusting

@poster
if you want to cure yourself of your addiction, get a carton of your favourite flavour (i suppose it contains 12 botles) and drink it all at once. trust me, you'd be cure of your addiction forever

Lol. Haba, Therapist Dominique!

That will work, but only temporarily - that is the most likely case. After a few weeks or even months he will start drinking it again. The best he can do, I think, is to make a resolution to curb his intake of it. He can allocate himself three bottles per week or something.

[quote author=Missy ★ B link=topic=816058.msg9677270#msg9677270 date=1322825931]I see! 

The taste should remain the same without the onions. . . . It seems it was used as a garnish.
Just don't grill your fingers too. [/quote]He he. I'll remember that!

kadirecipe:
You don't have to add the onions, it is just use to add more flavor to the fish .

Thank you.

Not if I'm doing the cooking or have any control over it. Some diet stuff. I do eat it in error or when I can't just be bothered.

Looks good. Do you think it will come out well if I do it without the onions?

Chiori:
Suppose the three of them come out to declare they are innocent, how will that help us?

I doubt the guilty one will be shooting her mouth right now, except, perhaps, to say she was falsely accused, which will instantly give the game away. But, then, this is Nigeria.  Anyway, we will soon know who it is. You can bet people know already, and soon there will be BB, facebook, twitter or some thing else.

But something has to be done about the quality of journalism in Nigeria.

Chiori:
I am glad this is happening. Soon there will be a total break from the sacred cow tradition that has been our bane. And soon newspapers will begin to be able to give news with names, whether it involved Nkiruka Onyejeocha, Chinenye F. Ike, Nnenna Ijeoma E. Ukeje. I am not ashamed it is happening in my state Abia, because that will make us begin to reason properly when next we are electing our representatives, so we don't give mandates to frauds anymore.

Thank you.

What they are doing now is letting us suspect all the three female Reps from the state. They better tell us who it is or the two innocent ones should clear their names.

Chiori:
I am glad this is happening. Soon there will be a total break from the sacred cow tradition that has been our bane. And soon newspapers will begin to be able to give news with names, whether it involved Nkiruka Onyejeocha, Chinenye F. Ike, Nnenna Ijeoma E. Ukeje. I am not ashamed it is happening in my state Abia, because that will make us begin to reason properly when next we are electing our representatives, so we don't give mandates to frauds anymore.

Thank you.

What they are doing now is letting us suspect all the three female lawmakers from the state. They better tell us who it is or the two innocent ones should clear their names.

jamace:
Why not say the name of the REP but mentioned the PA.s name? So, our newspapers also trample on the poor and are afraid of the big thieves?

Exactly. Someone should find out the name and post it here forthwith.

Seun:
Christianity is not hated; it's the most popular religion in the world.
The average Christian experiences no persecution whatsoever.

So right.

Only a small minority of Christians, who happen to live in hellholes like North Korea, experience persecution. In some other places, the story is quite complicated. For example, in places like Georgia we have seen persecution of Christians perpetrated by other Christians. In China Christians who follow the state sanctioned church experience no persecution, but those who follow unsanctioned churches do in some parts of the country.

In Eritrea that op mentioned, two facts would stand out:
1. The majority of Christians are not persecuted.
2. Persecution is not limited to Christians but extends to other religions.

The government of that country recognises only four religions - Catholic, Anglican, the Eritrean Orthodox Church and Islam. Members of religious groups outside of these four groups generally experience persecution but that is child's play. Real persecution in that country is reserved for the Jehovah's Witnesses. This is for the simple reason that the Witnesses would not undergo the compulsory military service among other things, something that Isaias Aferwerki, the mad man who runs the decrepit country along with a few fawning sidekicks, cannot live with.

[quote author=i_Do link=topic=699590.msg9645814#msg9645814 date=1322453078]I have been to AMORC campus in California, read and participated for over 20 years and can categorically state it is not a cult but a modern organization that seeks to enlighten and remove the darkness of superstition from people.[/quote]What is "superstition" is quite subjective. There are people who argue that Amorc promises, and does appear, to take you out of superstition but takes you right back into it. I am considerably familiar with the Rosicrusians and it is my view that while the order has a lot of enlightenment that is desirable, the above argument is not without basis.

To the mind of many cosmological thinkers, while all religions are pure in essence, they are mostly a hindrance to spirituality because once accepted they enclose you in a box outside of which you do not think. This is a view I generally share. Now, apart from Yoga (which hardly qualifies as a religion), the Sikh faith is the only one I recall having come across which allows you to go outside the faith if that will help you attain the goal, which is union with God.

Lol at "demon of talking". Bitter kola ko, bitter lemon ni.

But I said you have won naa. Haba, Retired service man from Kogi!