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tartar9:
In addition, do you know that only in the South East do we have a state in the South (Ebonyi state) that has as much poverty rate as Northern states. Now you know.
I still have a feeling that the North inflates it's poverty statistics.

Ebony state much better in human capita than most states in the north

MelloJelly:
My thinking as well. They'll receive more money from western NGO's and charities if they have more poor people

It doesn't really work like that sir, apart from the war-torn northeast most NGO's directly fund project like Polio immunization through the ministry of health and the total value of charity received by these Northern states is meager compared to their monthly allocation

tartar9:
In addition, do you know that only in the South East do we have a state in the South (Ebonyi state) that has as much poverty rate as Northern states. Now you know.
I still have a feeling that the North inflates it's poverty statistics.

Bro the statistic is spot on, people don't know how poor the north is. When you go to the north you will believe this statistic totally.

Forget about those that come here to share pictures of flyovers and roads in Kano or Kaduna government reserved areas, majority of northerners live in the rural areas. Do you know that Kano municipal is only about 499 square kilometers with a lower population than Ibadan municipal that is over 3080 square kilometers? Most people in Kano lives in their rural areas where poverty is very high.

On average, most northern states get more in allocation than southwestern States but yet states like Osun that gets half of what Sokoto gets in a month is much better both in infrastructure and human development index. Last five years we perform a social experiment where I and three of my friend's tour 4 southwestern States, 3 north-central states, 3 northwestern states, 3 south southern states and 3 southeastern states.

All the southern states and 2 north central states such as a Kwara and Kogi have a high concentration of educated individual and wealth in their rural areas but from Niger state up the story becomes very bleak.

budaatum:
Really? A god, imaginary or real, will provide them with food and every other basic thing they will need?

You are a liar, myobjective because it is very obvious that you have not "been following your comment lately" as you claim. If you had been following my comment as you claim you would know that only lazy faqs wait for manna to fall from heaven so that they may eat and God in fact promised, though cursed, they claim, that "By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground", which basically means, lazy faqs will starve to death!

The way to reduce "birth rate of over 7.2" is to educate, educate and educate some more, but know that the feudal lords won't let you so its a war, so please stop telling lies about Buda, especially when you misunderstand!

To begin with, you only educate those who valued and are ready to be educated. I was born in a northern town to uneducated parent, in the same area, there are core northerners, northern minorities and southern minorities with similar economic class with that of my parent. Fast forward 35 years later, here I'm a graduate with better social-economic standing than my parent, which is also through for most of the southerners and ethnic minority that I grew up with but do you know that none of my childhood Hausa-Fulani friend was able to get a tertiary education? Most even struggle to get a secondary school education despite the government making primary and secondary free.

You see the problem is not just to provide education but also to destroy the old age disdain for education that most core northern culture abore for western education. A culture that prompt mediocrity all in the name of religion will continue to breed problem. Northern States on an average have scholarship programs than most northern states. When i was in the university, Sokoto state used to pay 200level engineering student level 6 salaries just to encourage their people to study engineering, i have many beneficiary in my class, most still struggle to get a degree.

StaffofOrayan:
I hope so, I remember when I lived in Egba, these alfas from Ilorin would bumb up their speakers and insult everybody like they had tickets to heaven, they were hilarious though
I greet you

You can just come to that conclusion that they are all from Ilorin. I go to Ilorin yearly and i don't the Muslim behave there differently that those in Ikare ( in Ondo) the most important this is hat people must learn to respect others and respect the peace of others which all Nigeria religious organization fail to do

budaatum:
Of course it does not make sense to you. Its not as if you need to make sure you have resources to take good care of the bastards you give birth to to make them useful. You just give birth to them and hope government takes care of them for you.

Well, since that's the case, and you can't take responsibility for your own bastards, I'm sure you won't mind if we educate them for you and just sell them like slaves instead of letting your bastards become useless bandits, criminals and terrorists!

Its either that or you take responsibility and produce fewer bastards! Your choice.

I don't know how old you are but from the way you talk, you must be retarded to spew out that rubbish above.

Experts all over the world have been saying that northern Nigeria birth rate of over 7.2 as against the national average of 5 or southern Nigeria average of 3.5 is not sustainable because Nigeria is too poor to lift these people out of poverty or to continuously provide infrastructure for the ever exploding population. But in your little mind, there is no problem because some imaginary god will provide them with food and every other basic thing they will need.

StaffofOrayan:
In the North, if u speak good Arabic, quote the Koran offhand, dress in pretentious garbs, you would be more respected than a neurosurgeon or an engineer, that right there is the problem.

It has crept down south with these god of men and imams from Ilorin

It hasn't my friend don't let us go into that.
Trust me an average Ilorin person value education as much as a Yoruba from any south western states. I went to school with lots of them and they sometime outperform Yoruba from other south western state.

I am both from Ondo and Kwara and can tell you that in both of these two places education is taking very seriously. Yoruba value education no matter where they might originate from or they live.

Northern problem is the long effect of the feudal rulers that refused to developed the human capita of the region. The north has a serous social problem that will continue to get worst

T9ksy:
That unfortunately is a myopic way of looking at the impending doom about to befall us.

As long as these kids are Nigerians, they will troop down southwards but with little or no education or skills to hand, they bound to constitute a nuisance factor in our region.

Don't mind some of these so-called shallow-minded southerners that believe they live in some vacuum. Without an independent southerner Nigeria, any problem nursed in the north will be imported to the south and this illiterate almajiri will continue to decide who becomes the president

budaatum:
This just puts me off. Nigeria is not the poverty capital of the world. There are very many countries that are poorer.

However, these children are the wealth of our nation if we could just educate them. We could then sell them all over the world as labour and they can send home foreign currency! (And yes, slaves, before anyone else says it!).

Alternatively, import Corona Virus and kill some of them off. But that would just make us poorer, I think.

So, stick with educate. Both mothers and children. It would be investment for future riches.

I have been following your comment lately and you come across as a very shallow-minded individual that lacks all the attributes to think properly.

Read what you wrote above and tell me that it makes any form of sense.
Given birth for population case without the resources to take good care of them and make them useful demography in the nation will only create more bandits, criminal and terrorist.

The population explosion in the north is not running anymore and the Yorubas need to start planning to leave this country.

SIRTee15:
I've not said anything new....
anybody earning 658k per month in nigeria will afford the comfort nigeria has to offer.
For those who see material wealth as the goal, that should be ok...
but not for some, not everybody suffers from poverty mentality which has completely destroyed the psyche of an average nigerian irrespective of socioeconomic background......
I was earning 500k per month in nigeria when I resigned from my job and came to the west for training...
I wasn't satisfied with the my career prospect and felt the only gain was my huge monthly salary....
I concluded there was more to my career than what Nigeria has to offer and decided to relocate and I have no regret whatsoever......
If I have any regret at all, it was I didn't motivate myself early enough to leave........
That would have afforded me the opportunity to engage in training for a longer period than what I could possibly do now.....

Nobody is painting a rossy picture of the west...
It is what it is- developed....
and until Nigeria catch up in the area of research and development, I don't see any reversal of the present migration trend.....

I guess you come from a privilege background because I don't understand why u should be complaining about taking metro to class or working per-time...
Politicians in Europe ride bicycle to work while both Obama's daughters work per-time right from age 16....so whats the big deal.....

You've told us the luxuries and pecks associated with your work but u yet to tell us exactly what u do and whether your foreign degrees gave u an edge in securing the job...
Anyway, thank God for your privilege background, a lot of Nigerian youths with foreign degrees are roaming naija street without a job, so don't blame their contemporaries who desire to secure their future via foreign marriage...
Rather blame the system that made Nigeria a mess for everyone except a privilege few.....

Bro, I think I'm facing the same problem now. I graduated 6 years ago with a first-class in civil engineering. Immediately after my youth service in port Harcourt, I got a job with a very good salary and the good life started. Two years later I left the job to start my own all civil/build firm with a friend, business was good until this current government scattered everything.

Most of my colleagues from my first job with a poorer grade are in Canada now, I regret not taking the advantage to travel out when I have the financial capacity (of over 10m).
I'm planning to go out now. I just don't know how to go about it

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The coup was just an excuse to got rid of the top Yoruba military officer at that time

slimfit1:
If he had killed them there would have been war. That was a Hausa coup. He wanted to kill all Yoruba military personnel. That is what is happening by this Democratic govt, they are sending our soldiers into war unprotected and not adequately equipped.

To Abacha all the accused are Yorubas that deserved to be purged out of the military despite the fact are from Kwara state a political North. You see an average northern politician and dictator sees every Yoruba has Yoruba when they have the power they don't give a Bleep whether you Christian, Muslim or Atheist. They see us a threat that deserved to be cut down.

Nigeria's deputy head of state, Lieut. Gen. Oladipo Diya, has been arrested in connection with a coup plot against the Government of Gen. Sani Abacha, defense officials said today.

An official statement was broadcast on radio but did not give any details of the alleged plot. It said the military was still investigating.

The Nigerian capital, Abuja, was reported quiet tonight, with no signs of increased security.

General Diya, the second in command of the country behind General Abacha, was arrested along with 11 others, including two major generals -- Tajudeen Olarenwaju and Abdulkareem Adisa -- who were until recently Ministers of Communications and Public Works respectively, the statement said.

In a broadcast on Nigerian television, the Government pledged to ''strongly resist any attempt to undermine the security, integrity of the nation and, thereby, derail the ongoing transition to a democratically elected government

codedguy1:
Firstly, I ain't Igbo.

I will not rope every Yoruba man into the Tinubu camp and supporters who merged with Bubu just to get power because I know there are Yoruba's who never wanted this bubu as president too.

The truth is the support he got from that faction of the sw is what brought bubu into power and he is even now showing the Yoruba's themselves (tinubu faction) that he doesent care about them.

Nnamdi kanu's vile utterances are a problem for the Igbo's, but I also know there are Igbo's who do not ascribe to his methods and style of abusing those he could have had as allies. There is always a betrayer in the midst.

Nnamdi kanu's position should not be seen as the position of every igbo. Just line Tinubu has people that would support him supporting a tyrant that's how NK has his followers who go to the extremes with their conducts.

Sw will thrive better on their own same as the SE and I dare say that the north will not suffer as much as we think they would if they tap into what they have to make Nigeria a better place if we are still one.

From day one I always antagonise Buhari, I never supported him then despite I being a Yoruba Muslim (demography of Yorubas that Igbos like to hate) because I know he is an ethnic and religious bigot couple with the fact that he ha nothing to offer but I wouldn't blame those that supported him in 2015 due to supposed Jonathan incompetency.

I respect what Nnamdi Kannu is fighting for, he may have gone about in a crude manner but at least he is fighting for something he believes in, what I despise is how Igbos here like to hate on Yorubas when the Yorubas have always been the most accommodative of the major ethnic group in Nigeria towards them, how they always undermine ur interest and support the so-called Fulani that they're condemning Tinubu and Yoruba for.

The question I always the Igbos is between a liberal Yoruba president (be it Christian, Muslim, Atheist) or a conservative northern Muslim who will ensure equity and possibly restructured Nigeria. We can all agree that the Igbos are due a president because they deserve it for fairness but would they ever get it by supporting the born to rule North?

Finally, the population, cultural, religious intolerance, disdain for education and lack arable land and surface water in the far north will make the core north (north west and east) be a disaster in the event of Nigeria disintegrate. An independent Core northern Nigeria will be worst than Niger and Chad

Arrewa:
If say we get sense for this country!

Why not Makinde as a the president and Zulum as the Vice President?

The north will have to wait for 8 years before they can present another candidate

AlhajiImam:
Nigeria is a land given to us by Allah from Sokoto to the Atlantic Ocean and no man can take it away from us Insha Allah

The Fulani homeland stops in the north-west and some of their vassal state in the northeast any attempt to lay claim of the fertile guinea Savana of the middle belt will be met with fire. In the event of Nigeria disintegrating which will happen soon, the middle belt we have their country and every inch of Yorubaland starting jeba to the north and Lokoja will not be left behind

Champagnegold:
Northern Nigeria love sucking blood and unnecessary killing especially those claiming piece or pisssssss.

The earlier the south-west can leave this union the better because, at the rate in which the north continue to breed and neglect their children couple with all the social problem in the region, the country has no future

AlhajiImam:
Nigeria cannot disintegrate. The British gave us political power and we will keep using it.

Keep deceiving yourself.
The Nigeria military force doesn't have the resources and capacity to engage in any prolonged civil war with any ethnic majority that decides to leave this union.

Yep British gave you nada and when the time is right, you will all need to go through Accra to bring anything to you landlock Sudan savanna region because we wouldn't even allow you to use Benin and Togo

AlhajiImam:
It's not by ranting. We will meet at the polls. For your information the south east and south south won't vote for tinubu neither will the north vote for him. So where Wil he manufacture the votes to win? We in the note vote on religious direction and ethnicity. So your crying is yet to start. I won't call you an slowpoke. Allah prevents that

You will meet at the pole when you still have a country and the south to support all your excesses. Get this clearly, the presidency is coming down to the south, it might be westerners, easterners or the minority of the delta but a northerner will not be the president in 2023 get that into your thick skull.

No one is crying but we are all telling you that without rotation presidency between the north and south Nigeria will disintegrate and you can kiss 99% of the revenue you get from the south goodbye.

I keep telling all my Hausa-Fulani friend that cares to listen that they're in any position to dictate for the rest of us because they bring nothing to the table

codedguy1:
Igbo's have at least attempted to leave this contraption called Nigeria but were fought down to remain.

If today they decide to want out will the Nigerian state allow them to go?

Nigeria cannot want them to go and also say the are confused when they insist on participating in elections. The voting pattern shows they want out or at least a restructured Nigeria. Its a cache 22 for them.

Get this clear bro, the Yorubas are not against the Igbos leaving or restructuring you just have to do it without abusing us or antagonizing our interest. We can both come to a compromise in pursuing how different agenda.

We both can agree that Nigeria current structure will not yield any fruit and the country to slide into abys if nothing is done to restructure it. The northern elite may be comfortable with our current predicament because of the other alternative may not be good for them if you look at their social and economic disadvantage but we can't allow them to drag us backward. We'll ask the question of the basis of our unity as a country

Perkins2018:
It’s all propaganda. They want to pitch him against buhari. Atiku and el rufai said worse against Buhari. It is left for buhari to either support Tinubu or Atiku or even el rufai in 2023. In any case, Tinubu will play his game.

That is their plan all along, in their bid to spoil the chance of the Yoruba the Igbo might end up with more conservative northerners.

Another northerner ruling country will not be tolerated by the Yoruba in 2023, if that should happen we'll to ask a serious question about supposed unity of Nigeria.

feelgoodInc:
How does the moon moves from west to east and a yoruba man in the west does not see it first before the man in the north-east I'm totally disappointed.

I support that fact that

Sokoto is in the west cure your ignorance.

GenBuhari:
Proof is Obasanjo took $16bn and after he left office no plants were built electricity generation capacity even tell.

Senate probed the $16bn also.

I don't want your "mei suya" or "mei shi" gist, i want real proof. Since Nigeria gain independent there was never a time that $16bn was spent on infrastructure not to talk of only electricity.

My problem with core northern youth is they are too stupid to learn and when they're have baked they behave like "Wole Soyinka". More reading on the subject matters will clear all your ignorance

GenBuhari:
Google na your friend, the research value of Malabu oil block.

Abacha was one of our greatest leaders indeed in the history of Africa. Just repeating unfounded allegations does not make those allegations true.

Tell that the indomie generation that never lived through his dictatorship. I was an old enough to know the suffering and the agony suffered by Nigeria through his regime.

Nigeria was so poor that the majority of Nigerians jubilated when the news of his demise hit the air. Abacha was one of the worst man to has ever ruled this country, he was clueless that the only person that came close him in cluelnly is one and only Mr clueless Buhari

GenBuhari:
Abacha Loot if not proven in court is a mere media conviction.

There is a global conspiracy to discredit Abacha with 22years of seemingly endless "audio" repatriation so-called "Abacha loot" that is not even up to $1bn according to those falsely and maliciously accusing him.
Phantom repatriation of loot that has never been confirmed to have arrived in Nigeria's treasury coffers over a 22years period.

Whilst Nigerians are bamboozled frequent reports about a relatively tiny "audio" so-called Abacha Loot of less than $1bn (according to Abacha's dishonest accusers). Abacha that died 22years ago.

$16bn that Obasanjo made disappear before our very eyes are seemingly forgotten.

$20bn that Jonathan acknowledged had disappeared from our treasury is no longer news.

$1trn (N400trn) Malabu Oil block that Obasanjo gave away to thieving International Oil Company Shell and Agip is seemingly unimportant.

My fellow country people we are being played!

Where is the evidence that $16B went missing during Obasanjo regime? You people always like to repeat a lie severally in the hope that it goes unchallenged. There was never a time Nigeria budgeted $16B dollars or have $16b to invest in the power sector.

Take a deep breath and go through those lies you wrote up there and come back with another round of illogical fallacies to exonerate your criminal dead general

GenBuhari:
Abacha Loot if not proven in court is a mere media conviction.

There is a global conspiracy to discredit Abacha with 22years of seemingly endless "audio" repatriation so-called "Abacha loot" that is not even up to $1bn x according to tho se falsely and maliciously accusing him.
Phantom repatriation of loot that has never been confirmed to have arrived in Nigeria's treasury coffers over a 22years period.

Whilst Nigerians are bamboozled frequent reports about a relatively tiny "audio" so-called Abacha Loot of less than $1bn (according to Abacha's dishonest accusers). Abacha that died 22years ago.

$16bn that Obasanjo made disappear before our very eyes are seemingly forgotten.

$20bn that Jonathan acknowledged had disappeared from our treasury is no longer news.

$1trn (N400trn) Malabu Oil block that Obasanjo gave away to thieving International Oil Company Shell and Agip is seemingly unimportant.

My fellow country people, we are being played!

At the bolded, $1trn! oga abeg lie small small.
Since all were discovered in commercial quantities Nigerian hasn't earn earned trillion dollars.

Abacha was a senseless criminal, one of those people responsible for the problem facing Nigeria today, no matter how you try to whitewash him, history will ways remember him to a corrupt senseless dictator

oyatz:
Nairaland is a faceless forum. Some guys that haven't even bought a plot of land will be giving expert opinions on massive construction contracts.



I just completed a personal housing project in my hometown in Osun State.

I deeply regretted the parts that I gave to local artisans to do.

One guy collected my money for digging soakaway pit, dug like 1.5 meters and disappeared.

Even in my hometown, I had to go to Sabo and recruited Ayuba Takai and Danladi (both from Kano State) to complete the digging of soak away and waste pits. Many manual jobs were reassigned to these Hausa labourers.

They don't resume for work until around 10:00 am and they like to close by 5:00 pm and will be expecting daily payment.

Some days, they may not even come giving silly excuses that they went for chieftaincy meetings or there were ceremonies in town for them to attend.

They will force you to work at their own pace (slow and more expensive) because they are in their own town, they are never in a hurry to meet any target.
They don't live in rented apartments, their foods are mostly sourced locally and their costs of living is very low.

Above all, they are also part-time farmers. They will use your time to go to farms and only come for your work at a convenient time.

That is not the bone of convention here.
Basic economics dictate that the lest educated class do most of the menial job not because of their supposed integrity of hard work but because they don't have the skill to anything else, reasons why most of the cat pushers, bike riders and all other menial jobs are done by the least educated and unskilled demography of the population.

All over Nigeria, menial jobs are done by northerners because it makes economic sense but the same argument can't extend to the awarding of contracts to only northern own films.

wirinet:
reasons why people from the region of Tetfund chairman will get most of the job.
This is not an integrity contest, you have your own experiences in the construction industry, I have mine. You ended up agreeing with what I said, where you are mistaken is where you said these days. Nepotism and contract selling did not start these days, it had always been like that. Ministries and parastatals headed by northerners would award contracts mainly to northerners, those headed by easterners would award contracts to cronies, friends and families. That's why appointments into political offices are such a big issue in Nigeria. People lobby for their tribes men to get political appointments. Some of these cronies simply sell the contract papers to anyone willing to pay (who most of the time are unqualified). People have been selling contract papers at Abuja from time immemorial. I had a friend that got burnt buying DESOPADEC contract. He lost all his life savings buying an N50 million contract for 10% of the contract sum.


I know have a company-owned by a man with no engineering or construction background and they 're currently working on more than 20 projects across the federation, most of their engineers are bearly qualified, are you going to tell me that his the best qualified for the job?
This is very common at state, local and federal levels. The main road in Odogunyan was awarded to a political with no civil engineering experience. The road did not last 2 rainy seasons.
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You are right to an extent.
Trust me this regime has taken it to the next level, it hasn't gotten this bad in the past.

goodnessme1:
I have add the pics.

That is a Yoruba king oga

oyatz:
The contract was awarded in Abuja. Many contractors bidding for it.

Most times, people from diverse ethnic groups collaborate to float or manage big companies like this to increase their national appeal.

The chairman of that construction company may be Tunde Folawiyo, Terry Wayas, Elisha Abbo, Emeka Offor or Sir Donald Abang.


#The main problem I have with this kind of issues is the centralization of the Nigerian political structure.


In true federalism, the FG has no business in awarding contracts or running universities. That contract could have been awarded by the Governing council of UNN.

Why should someone in Faraway Abuja be awarding contracts for projects in Ile-Ife, Ijebu-Ode, Nsukka or Birnin Kebbi?

Yes, sir!
If I pay N20 in tax in Ibadan then my tax money should be used in Ibadan not shipped to Abuja in other to pay some northern marketers subsidy

GreenArrow1:
Leave all these people to keep ranting. They don't know why they post us outside our comfort zones to go and work. Is it not Igbo men and firms who are executing the massive green energy project at University of Agriculture Makurdi? Worked there briefly before leaving so I know what I'm talking about. Did anyone die or cry blue murder?

Makurdi is not that far from the east my friend, in fact, makurdi and Benue is geographically eastern Nigeria.

People are mixing things up, using northern artisans and labourer is different from giving northern own companies all the work