₦airaland Forum

wirinet:
Your argument is neither here or there, as long as the companies pass through the tender process and the company is competent, then I don't care whomsoever they award the contract to. I will only have issues if the contract is awarded and paid for but not carried out or according to specifications.

Besides, locals don't have a good track record of completing projects. There are hundreds of projects awarded to locals all over the Niger delta by NDDC. The locals abandon the projects after collecting Mobilization fees. Many roads in the East and even west are awarded to powerful locals, they simply vanish after collecting mobilisation fees.

Do you think you are talking to a novice here?
I am in the industry, I'm a registered structural engineer with more than 8years site and project management experience so don't bamboozled me with fake integrity. Northerners are as dubious as anyone and most contracts work these days are sold to cronies reasons why people from the region of Tetfund chairman will get most of the job.

I know have a company-owned by a man with no engineering or construction background and they 're currently working on more than 20 projects across the federation, most of their engineers are bearly qualified, are you going to tell me that his the best qualified for the job?

mynaijaforumcom:
Are you saying that all the contracting companies from the North have integrity while none from the South and even the middle belt have intergrity and so all TETFUND projects will be awarded to Northern contractors, consultancy and management firms?

Don't mind him, they will continue to beat around the bush when the fact is starting in the face, sometimes I begin to wonder about the maturity of most contributor here on nairaland.

It has nothing to do with integrity and competency but who you know in Nigeria. Isn't a ironical that the most educational backwards regions tend to get everything? The reality is the most of the contractors are not even qualified to begin with

DrObum:
I don't understand the aim of this thread nor what you peeps are arguing about.

TETFUND awards a contract and its done. If you want to get to why TETFUND gave the contact to a northerner, get to their office and find out.

It is important to have tho type of discussion sir!
Most of the tetfund projects are just simple construction of classrooms or lecture theatres that not local contractor can handle, you don't need to bring in people from thousands of kilometres to this job.

The construction industry is dominated by the Yoruba but we are the most affected group in this Buhari administration since most work is not giving based on merit, you will need to know some people and bribe a huge sum of money to buy some of these contracts to begin with.

mu2sa2:
The contract in question is said to have been awarded by Tetfund. Let me have the full list of all the contracts awarded by Tetfund and i will answer your question presto.

Most Tetfund projects are awarded to northerners this is a fact, not because they have the capacity to do them but because of nepotism.

It is not the issue of being Igbo or Hausa it is being fair in an heterogeneous society like Nigeria. Among all the major groups in Nigeria, the north are the least qualified to handle any job if we are to go be strictly merit yet they get the best job all because we have a lopsided arrangement.

mynaijaforumcom:
Being Northern is not the problem. My question is that Kano is 760.4km while Kaduna is 567.5 km from Nsukka. Do you really believe that no other Contracting and Consulting firms could have submitted a suitable tender in between those distances? Bearing in mind they are Federal projects. If you really believe so, tell me who is the bigot?

That is the nepotism we are talking about! All those universities project you see going on are Tetfund project and the past chairman of tetfund was from Bauchi, the present on is from Gombe. 99% of the contracts are given to unqualified northern contractors.

I am a civil engineer in the know of how most of these works are given to less qualified companies all because we have an irredeemable bigot as the president. There are companies handling more 20 companies when others more qualified don't have.

It is painful to have a country structured in this manner where crude oil tax revenue from the south is used to fund northern excesses, reasons why we must restructure or divide this country.

12Monkeys:




Just like Mr Integrity

Buhari is a scam

Mrexcell:
This is the root of Nigeria's problems the fulanis are using Islam as a political tool to remote control the core north and the south west.

Fixed

kayfra:
The Sokoto stool is to maintain the symbolism of the 19th-century Jihad since the Hausa slaves now feel it liberated them after their brainwashing. To a large extent some Ilorin tools are also slave to that feudal system if not for Otoge that allowed Kwara Yorubas to realize the real 21st century power belongs to them. They watch in awe how the SW is projecting power and i hope they learn from it

I am sick to my stomach with the slavish adherence and deference to an ethnic group all in the name of religion

I was a devoted Muslim in the past, religion doesn't make any sense bro it is just a tool for political domination. The Hausas are irredeemable they are lost forever, they can ever change owing to over 200years of living in an Islamic state but the Yoruba of Ilorin are changing gradually, many of them don't actually believe in the Fulani feudal system and since many of their elites we're born and brought up in Lagos they wish to be closer to the southwest in politics and everything than the North.

The sarakis we're the stumbling block before since they needed the sympathy of mostly control Fulani central government during the military era both today most Kwara government are pro Yoruba that you will even see minority groups in Kwara north speaking and identify with Yoruba.

solmusdesigns:
the moon is reflected on earth along a lunar path, and depending on your location you may or may not sight the moon at its fullest in its first day of circle

this is why Lunar eclipse is only visible in some location while others don't see it

Scientifically it is absurd to site the moon because the moon is constantly moving around our earth and the part we see is the part reflected by the sun to some part of the earth at that particular time, reasons why religion and believers are illusionists that will believe in any kind of nonsense no matter how illogical it is provided it is written in their book

forgiveness:
Wrong. Islam was already in Kanuri, Hausa and Yorubaland before Dan fodio ever came.

It was known as in Male (meaning Mali's religion) in Yorubaland due to contacts with MALIAN'S traders during the 14th century. Centuries before Dan folio was ever born.

Dan Fodio only uses jihad to take power from the Hausa kings. He blackmailed them of not practice Islam according to the sunnah and corruption. He only latches on the sentiment of religion to gain political power for himself and his minority Fulani brothers.

kayfra:
It is really shameful how Nigerian Muslims have allowed Fulanis to manipulate the religion as a tool to rule.

Nothing sane or rational about the Sultan of Sokoto is the de facto leader of Nigerian Muslims. The Kanuris had Islam before any group in the country. Also, why is the position not rotational and why does it exclude other sects such as Shia etc?

Why is Nigerian Muslims blind to the obvious Fulani scheme? It is pure garbage

You are on point, my brother! Islam is a political tool to the Fulani to project power, without the religion they don't have the justification for occupying the seat of power in the north since they were settlers and a tiny minority.

The sultan is just a ceremonial figure in the larger scheme of things, in reality, the emir of Kano is even more powerful than him.

centurionpapa:
Sultan of Sokoto is the supreme head of all Muslims not only yoruba Muslims but also the kanuris, nupe, etsakos, anioma etc.
Dont you think Fulani deserve it.?
They sacrifice their lives, their everything,for the advancement of Islam throughout the country peace
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Which sacrifices? Going by the logic of who first built an Islamic state in Nigeria the head of Muslim should go to the Kanuri since they have an Islamic state centuries before Usman Dan Fodio was born.

Coming back to the question, sultan of Sokoto was made the head of Nigeria Muslim by northern military leaders, in reality, he doesn't even command that respect in even in the core North. People respect Islamic scholars like Dairu Bauchi, senior Kumi and the lack than the sultan.

The Yoruba and Edo/Delta have their Are Muslim which normally resides in Ibadan. Yoruba Muslim are independent of Hausa-Fulani Muslim both in ideology and structures.

Gabkosh:
You don't know, You can't see Akure indegen being Muslim. We are either Catholic, Anglican, Baptist, Methodist, penticoastal or CAC

Do you see me mention Akure?

Gabkosh:
Oga Muslim are not up to 5%. I have never seen Akure, idanre, ikale, owo, ondo, okitipupu indigenous that are Muslim. I am from Akure, it will be hard to see Akure indigen being a Muslim.

Oga, I'm from Ikare Akoko so I know these areas very well

Osaze007:
You mean ilorin
Kwara Yorubas are well educated

Kwara Yorubas are educated, I am just replying to his message, sir. I think Ofa people and Kwara south were doing better in the past but Illorin people are catching up now she.

Yorubas generally valued education

LegendHero:
This will be the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever read in my entire life. You mean Muslims of Yoruba origin are not educated like the Christians and they don’t proceed to higher institutions in their entirety??

What kind is statement is this? You should modify this post coz it’s baseless bro. In all institute of learning, we have both Muslims and Christians leading classes and excelling in their professions and it will be absurd for anyone to think otherwise.

Some Muslims are even always profiled to be too brilliant that some always attribute it to them drinking hontu.

This argument on this thread is baseless. How will you categorize Yorubas into Muslims/Christians/traditionalist when people frequent those other religious institution and intermarry?

You are right about Muslims converting to Christian and that is due to the fact that churches do a lot of miracles and crusades such that people always go to churches for their problem to be solved. Thats why women form the bulks of the converts.

My mom was a Muslim before, she switched to Christianity. Dad is still a Muslim, my brother are Muslim and Christian anytime they like and I personally identify as a Muslim.

Now brother how will I categorize my religion based on my family analogy?

Muslims from core southwestern states are forced to take education seriously because of the environment they live in but in State like Kwara Yoruba Muslim married too many women thereby rendering their purchasing power useless, yet the women still try to send their children to school due to the culture of excellence of the Yorubas.

Christians basically worship the west, they sing dance in churches, these activities promote western lifestyle and encourage adherence to seek for western education.

adamx23:
On the contrary, the most gullible people on earth are Christians. It is the dumbest religion on earth with so many red flags.

I served in port Harcourt, initially, I live in copers lodge, during their prayer section all I here is "fire fire fire kill my enemy".

Religion generally don't really make sense but Christian normally take absurdities to another level

Sammy07:
We can't use Politicians or elected politicians to judge
In ondo they are up to 10%
Remember some akoko areas are predominantly Muslims

I am from Akoko area in Ondo State, Ikare Akoko in particular. This is a meaningless question, we Yoruba see ourselves first through our ethnic identity, religion is in material bro.

Muslims are the majority in Akoko with Ikare the largest in the senatorial district, there also Muslim in Owo and Ondo town. In summary, Muslim will be 25% to 30% of the state.

Neoteny:
What exactly is hausanized?

Hausanized people or Muslim northern minority that speaks Hausa as their first and only language, follow and protect Hausa political interest when in power and act just like every Hausa-Fulani of Northwest Nigeria

Neoteny:
This man claims that fulanis ruled for 40 years out of Nigeria's 60.

The only fulanis who ever held power were Murtala, Shagari, Yaradua, and Buhari. They held power for a combined total of about 10 years as at now.

The northerners mistaken for fulani were Kanuri (Abacha), Nupe (IBB and Salami) Gere (Balewa)

Gowon, a northerner, is Ngas.

It's interesting to note that Nigeria's problems began with 1966, no thanks to the igbos.

The boded is not true. Abacha was an Hausanized Kanuri, he was a Kano man while both IBB and Abdulsalam are Hausanized Gbagwi

mcgaius:
Who approved this post?I thought Nairalanders say no to secession?Is it because it's not from Igbo point of view?Dont even say that i am beating the drum of tribalism because in Nigeria once one person is ok,he always feels that the other guys can go to hell.

This issue with Fulani and Nigeria is as old as ant hills and the igbos have been talking about it but just that the southwest always feel they can gain something from the North by working against the rest of the south and now they are feeling the heat.What they do not realise from the set go is that "injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.Una good morning.

If you are being true to yourself, the question you need to ask is who among the major ethnic group in the south have been in bed since 1960?

The Igbos have always been in coalition with the north from first republic to third republic, the question is why are you blaming Yoruba for doing the same just once?

engrchykae:
the port you are bragging about is as a result of intentional closing down of Calabar,warri and azumini.
If they are opened up and every other international airports in the SS SE working,the southwest is just at par with North Central.
This is why you need Nigeria more than the North,the southwest is the ultimate parasites of one Nigeria.
What is happening now in amotekun is merely noise making should in case the north wants to change their mind in handing over to the southwest in 2023.
You are threatening disintegration which is the fear of the north.

The Lagos port was built even before the birth of Nigeria, it was built before the North, South and the colony of Lagos was joined together. The south east is the poorest region in Nigeria, the only reason you wanted away in 1966 was because of the oil in the land of the minority group in the old eastern region.

The Calabar, Warri and Azumini all over shallow shore line that are highly silted, hence large port can't be build in these areas, reasons why the colonial masters and successful government of Fulani-Igbo government of first, second and third republic didn't not see as a priority to build new port in the old east despite Yoruba being in opposition.

Port and airport just don't develop a society, know how, hard work and creativity develop society, Igbo fixation with quick money is the reason why you all can't do without importing cheap substandard goods that can easily be produce locally here, thereby putting pressure on our foreign exchange earning. The ultimate parasite in Nigeria are the Igbos, reasons why you all can' do without the oil rich south-south.

In Nigeria today, the Hausa-Fulanis are great farmers, contributing the economic while the Yoruba dominate the skilled and organized private sector. What you see the supposed Igbos doing is retailing, selling substandard goods and engaging into criminal activities to make quick money

splendour7:
ok i get it,your brain is on flight mode right now,try replying me when it come back to normal....we all knew who fulanis bootlickers are,so no argument about it..

The Fulani boot -lickers are those whose parent and grandparent has been playing second fiddle to the Hausa-Fulani since independent.
I laugh at you mischievous ass trying so hard to twist fact in other to favour your jaundiced view.

The Yoruba will always deal with the Hausa-Fulani as an equal partner in the entity called Nigeria. We'll always go into the affairs of Nigeria as a major player, the moment we realized our interest can't be protected we'll opt out of the union

engrchykae:
we dey fear una abeg.
To mobilize the East won't be a problem we are just watching whether you guys are not being mischievous.
We will rally under ipob in less than 3 days and amass millions of youths.
But we are watching the unreliable west,it might be a stunt for presidency.
The Southwest needs unity more than the Northwest

Please what do you mean by this ''The Southwest needs unity more than the Northwest''?
How can the southwest need the unity of Nigeria than the north when we have the port, the commercial city, literate 45m people spread across lush mangrove swamp, rain forest, and guinea savanna. How can we be afraid of disintegration when we are most strategically positioned of the major ethnic group in Nigeria.

We Yorubas need our independent country than the supposed restructuring, we want to developed and live with our brothers and sisters than understand the value we have for our life and community development

solmusdesigns:
Our own son did it in 1999 to 2003 and Jonathan also wanted to try it in 2011 until people like Tinubu seeked another alliance

We are not using our strategic importance to our advantage. Do you know that the Northwest contributing nothing to our national wealth receive more than southwest from the federation accounts. States like Katsina, Kaduna, Kano and Sokoto takes much more than Oyo, Ogun and Ondo despite the former contributing close to nothing to central. What we need is restructuring and outright disintegration

solmusdesigns:
thats my thought too, we should be very carefull because any wrong move would be a very long lonely walk of marginalisation

Yoruba can't really be marginalized without Nigeria not disintegrating.

solmusdesigns:
Anyways moving forward, propose the best line of action for Tinubu and Obasanjo if you were him and the Yoruba land as a whole if you were like the leader and the rallying point

My proposal and my opinion is simple, Tinubu keep out and let Governors and Lawyers get it done, Tinubu should keep his doors open for all negotiation and should limit his public appearances
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I buy into your line of taught. The Igbo shouting Amotekun here don't really like the Yoruba or our interest, they are here to profit from any disagreement between the north and the west and if we allow our emotion to get the better of us we'll lose.


I must also point out that the Hausa-Fulani north being a very powerful block doesn't have the power they like to project, the 19states made reference to above include two states where Yoruba have serious political clout (Kwara and Kogi) and also includes states like Benue, Plateau, Taraba, Nasarawa and so many others that are not in good terms with the core-north. We need to play our game in a very smart way.

I till believe that Tinubu should stay out of the Amotekun issue all together

LegendHero:
Most Nigerians don’t understand politics and how it’s played in Nigeria.

Why should Tinubu talk? Will his talk make any difference? What will be the main goal of his voicing out?

People with functioning brains should know Tinubu will be consulted by the SW governors before they can proceed and I’m quite sure in the background they are doing everything possible to make Amotekun successful.

However, politics is a crazy game and most of the guys shouting Tinubu should talk are his enemies. It’s very easy to use his words against him when the time comes as being an ethnic bigot. Tinubu is wise and he should remain silent in the press and work in the background to make Amotekun a success.

As Yorubas, there no need for all of us to be shouting at the same time, there should be the silent workers and the front men that do the speeches.

We Yorubas shouldn’t lose focus, this shouldn’t be a game of throwing banters and abusing people online. We should keep the eye on the target only without listening to ariwo oja!

Amotekun is here to stay!

bross your head correct.
Tinubu silence is the best

NaMeAboki:
The problem with you guys is that you are myopic to your own bigotry; always condescending and quick to judge and interpret everything from a silly tribal/religious perspective.

The banditry and killings had never taken a tribal pattern; anyone with common sense can clearly see that it is purely criminality motivated; victims had never been targeted based on their tribe or religion, in fact majority of them are northerners (as can be seen from the attached infographic); yet you ppl are dishonestly turning it to look like a tribal issue and therefore now most unfortunately coming up with a tribally biased countermeasure.

Feel free to do as you want but be careful what you are wishing for; because if eventually this should degenerate into an anti-northern witch hunt then be rest assured that northerners will also react accordingly.

No body is afraid of your reaction. It is a tribal issue, Fulani herdsmen are the criminals and the federal government lead by Fulani herdsmen apologist is doing everything to support them,

sean079:
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This is what am saying exactly, must u be rich or muslim before the parent consider you enough to marry their daugther. Of course i am yoruba with xtian foundation but no more attach to any beleif

You don't have to be rich but you must be a Muslim. What I mean is that marriages in the north has to do with class and religion. If you are poor and you will likely married a poor Hausa-Fulani.

Waterview:
how does that translate to Fulani wanting to take Offa?

Please don't mislead the public, the two monarch are just in loggerhead ( battle of supremacist)

FYI ilorin is not Fulani city, you'll see a tiny proportion of Fulani(the royal family) if you doubt travel down to ilorin and and start speaking Fulani if anyone will understand you.

I was born and bred in kwara, kwara is 70% Yoruba, 27% (nupe, baruba, labari) you will only find like 1-2% irrelevant finalis in ilorin.

They don't know and they would never learn. Fulani don't have any say on the affairs of Kwara, the emir is a ceremonial position, he is just a religious symbol, nothing else.

somehow:

While I find your post enlightening, I would like to let you know that there is nothing like "Fulani hegemony', the north did what we call "division of labor" or "specialization". The major tribes have specialization and they use this well.

There is some kind of 'Fulani hegemony', this group might also contain some of other minority but they all act and push for same agenda.

Elites are into politics and business
Middle class into education and religious brainwashing
Lower class into acting out for the other 2 and doing the main physical fight.

You are right her but not as clear cut, the problem is the middle class which is shrinking everyday. The middle class is really small and their number is threatening by every successful northern rule

The north has more than 100 languages and tribes, they all thrive in their strengths. It will take the south to stop fighting each other to understand what unity can achieve.

North west is much less diverse, without the minority Hausanized Bauchi, the Hausa-Fulani have very few diversity reasons why religion is the only binding force in the region

Regional government is the key
Before anything else.

Region government is the future