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woles3435:
Pls EgunMogaji2 and other expat prefessional in the house

Hello, I need a professional advise and service on Architectural Planning and quantity surveying cost of 2 units of two bedroom with 2 units of room and parlor self contain or 3 units of two bedroom bungalow in Abeokuta.

I will appreciate your advise and service. Thanks

Prepare N12m - N15m depending on your taste. A similar configuration (see plan below) built for the government cost between N9m - N10m per block (a semi-detached 2 bedroom flat).

Your land size is adequate for the proposed development.

Your foundation alone will gulp +/- N2.5m

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We have over 300 units recently built and ongoing across the state.

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Pic 1 - 2 bedroom semi-detached flats expandable to 3 bedroom. The red mark shows the expansion.

Pic 2 - Foundation of 50 units of 2 Bedroom Semi-Detached Flats Delivered in Sagamu

Pic 3 - 2 Bedroom Semi-Detached Flats - Prince Court, Kemta Abeokuta

gbadexy:
Exactly sir. They make the money they are losing on the prepaid meters from the estimated bills they give unmetered people and are reluctant to process the meter fast so that they keep milking the people.

Well for me, I don’t allow them to meter my commercial projects. They take their readings from the transformer.
Just bill me for my consumption and not what I have inside my property. That I have them doesn’t mean I run them all at once.

This explains why I have N11,000 bill on my transformer.

somehow:
What kind of smart home devices do you use and what do they handle in your home specifically?

How spacious are the spaces in your home feet wise?

My Energy Conservation and Home Automation Device List

Gate/Fence Light/DC Water Pump control - Centurion Chronoguard Function
This device run on 650VA backup battery and it can power the gate for at least 48 hours when there’s power outage. It also turn on the water pump on programmed days of the week all year round.

Smart plugs - Surgeguard (remote controlled)
This is what my entertainment systems are connected to. Once I switch off the master port, all the slave port goes off automatically thus conserve energy.

ACs/Freezer - Programmable plugs (thermostat)
I intend upgrading this to smart thermostat.

Bulbs - Phillips Hue
I’ve been using this bulbs for over 9 years. I’ll order more soon to replace the “na this one good” naija bulbs that get replaced every month.


Spaces

Lounge/Dining/Ante/Entrance Porch - 80sqm +

Entrance Porch only (Pic 1 below) - 20sqm
Lounge only - 38sqm
All Rooms are above standard room size.

EgunMogaji2:
Up there is the classic “We Reserve The Right To Refuse Service” clause that I preach on here. Yah all don’t have to accept all work that crosses your paths.

Once you touch it, you own it.

Preach on. You have a witness in the house.

somehow:
Thanks
Can solar power be used to power ACs (2-3) without having to break the bank?

To use 2-3 ACs, only 2-4 bulbs and maybe 1 TV would be on..

Regardless of your load and energy consumption, the essence of a very good smarthome design is to control energy usage through a variety of smart-home energy-saving strategies.

You need systems that can turn appliances off completely when not in use, eliminating the energy drain from idling appliances.

For instance, my security lights automatically come on at 7pm and is turned off at 6:30am every day even when I’m not in town thus conserving energy.

Years back, I have programmable thermostats on my power-hungry devices. Today, I realize that a well configured smart thermostat will do a better job that the manual ones as it’ll take some of the guesswork out and enabling the device's smarts to proactively manage energy use.

More importantly, I’m able to save more on my energy bills because my house is designed to conserve energy (there are wraparound terraces and covered porch allowing fresh air and sunlight to pour into my very spacious interior). This is a different ball game for those who are trying to play catch up.

gbadexy:
I wrote them a letter telling them to disconnect me from their grid and stop billing me with immediate effect and I told them I would not be responsible for any bill they brought henceforth.
I took it to their head office and made sure they stamped the acknowledgement copy.
I earlier paid for prepaid meter since may last year but they said the payment reflected in june when there was a N10000 increment and I was supposed to pay the difference but they didn't give me an account to pay the difference because they weren't collecting any payment due to the government meter scheme abi fraud.
Anyways, I have the copy of my letter with me and I have no intention of paying any money they bring but I would collect the meter for collecting sake because it has already been paid for.
I have no plans of using their light any longer.
Even during serious rains, the solar isn't really bad. It would still charge after the rain although not fast. And 3 hours generator would charge it fully to last another 2 days depending on the battery capacity.

Here’s what I did when I paid for my prepaid meter:

I wrote to the disco and reminded the of Mr Babatunde Fashola’s stern order that no one should pay estimated bills if he/she has paid for a prepaid meter. I encouraged them to take their time to supply and install the meter so long I’m not paying a dime for the energy used. I think I was only paying fixed charge of 500 - 700 prior to the installation of my meter.

I was never given estimated billing for once even though they compelled me to take it while they were processing my meter. I think the guys deliberately stopped issuing meters because of what they’re making from estimated billings.

kopell:
Man, we need your help with the secrets behind this low bill, if average house of 5 bedrooms receiving 18k per month crazy bill for light of about 7 - 10 hours a day. Another location that I think is fair is paying 8k with prepay meter per month for 3bedrooms with everything, and average light of 12-16 hours per day even before prepay is install . I don't understand this ooo same Ikeja serving both location. I am tired of fighting this people

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1. Your location
2. Your Tariff Class (residential, commercial or industrial)
3. Tariff Rate
4. Quantity of energy consumed

A lot of us focus only on no. 4 whereas other factors determine how much we pay.

You need to ensure your property has not been classified wrongly as a commercial building or that your shop or business has not been classified as Industrial.

Often times, it’s not your consumption that goes high but your fixed charges. The fixed charge for Class R2 Is very small when compared with R3.
That explains the reason why 2 similar building might end up paying different charges to the same disco.

Work in progress from the stable of Advanced Baba Lati.

Nero2424:
Advance baba Lati sounds more like it, I already saw something I like but am not able to put it up here since I don't own it. The idea is for a country home though.

My mobile number hasn't changed +23480 234 29 122 (Calls/Whatsapp/SMS)

somehow:
No vex o, but how do you have time to do all these?

Nero2424:
Thanks for going back and I appreciate your effort. At the bold, I only asked if u can share the picture or address. That was a question, I never asked you to send me the pictures or address.

Thanks and by the way can you recommend me 3 architect here? (I no dey play)

If I share the address or the pictures of the house which many people here know, I’ve exposed the owners to a huge security risk.

As for architects recommendation, I can only recommend Advanced Baba Lati Design Studio (we handle all our designs in-house).

I don’t draw. I conceptualize designs and check drawings and interface between clients and my extremely rigid professionals who always feel like they knew all the client need.

95% of our proposed designs get built.


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See me in pic 4 below forming Zaha Hadid

#ordinarybabalati

@nero2424

Since you won’t dig, let me help you here. I pray you have time to go through though.

Here’s the chronology of event:

I shared a post on climate consultant. https://www.nairaland.com/2550211/general-topic-thread-to-discuss-anything/2053#99923263

A COREN certified structural consultant brought up issues of all glass building not good for Nigeria
https://www.nairaland.com/post/99924104

I gave an example of an all glass commercial building in Ibadan that’s almost 3 decades old
https://www.nairaland.com/2550211/general-topic-thread-to-discuss-anything/2053#99925346

The NSE certified guru established we need glass building in area that’s not prone to security breach.
https://www.nairaland.com/post/99949120

I shared info about hammerglass as a solution for those who want to explore.
https://www.nairaland.com/2550211/general-topic-thread-to-discuss-anything/2054#99949313

I shared info about other security glass designs.
https://www.nairaland.com/2550211/general-topic-thread-to-discuss-anything/2054#99950039

MNSE guru asked if glass shops where cement are sold can be built in Ikorodu round about....

I shared picture of an old shop that was converted into a modern shop with glass facade.

NERO2424 asked if I’ve visited the old shops to know if break in happened.

I told him the shops are on the road I drive daily

Now you’re looking for the address of the house in the ghetto that’s all glass....


And so on...!

Nero2424:
The conversation didn't start where u screenshot... U might want to go all the way back and capture all the screenshots.

#Sequel

Let’s deal with specifics now.

I’m sure if I share ghetto now. We will still be talking about the definition of ghetto in naija context.

I refused to tag along because you guys seems to bring up “the glass house/glass shops part” into the context.

Just do me a favour and show me exactly where I said glass house or glass shop. I asked the other guy too.

Does the drawing below look like a glass house or glass shop? Read the post, check the drawings and all the images I’ve attached so far.

I think this discussion is not for those with fixed mindsets.

Nero2424:
My brother that digging think is not my calling... I just reluctantly agree there are glass houses where u said they are.

You missed it sir. You’re jumping gun.

Here’s my post that you respond to once again. Read slowly this time and understand what we are talking about here.

“I have a building” does not mean “I have a glass house”

#comprehension

igbonla:
Giving the cost won't add any value due to devaluation/inflation and the fact that I designed the system for my need. I am not into solar energy business, just an enthusiast. Below are the main ingredients used for the system.
- Victron Energy Inverter
- BYD B-BOX 13.8KWH 48V Lithium Ion battery.
- 300W LG solar panels
- Victron Energy charge controller
There is a generator, only as backup for the "rainy days".

The system handles everything in the house, including inverter ACs, but energy management is critical with solar system. I use only 6W LED bulbs, freezer programmed to go off at night, etc. Occasional use of water heater and zero use of electric iron. Use of water pump and washing machine during the day only (about twice a week max).

The most important item you need to focus on is the design of a system that will serve your NEED. Please do not spend a kobo without having in your hands a good design that you understand; to get into the design phase, you must conduct an energy audit. Do not buy those systems being sold with claims on capacity and the load they can carry. A bad experience may scar you and chase you away from solar energy.
Energy audit will show you what you currently consume, and enable you trim down your requirements. Solar energy can be expensive if you don't control your use!
With an energy audit, you have the foundation laid out and will know what capacity you want to design for. And you can play around the components based on affordability and other factors, there are many inverters, panels, and batteries out there. Don't do cheap, you will get whatever you pay for.
I never liked lead acid batteries, whether sealed or wet; while wet is better, it's maintenance can be an issue and may not last 3 to 5 years depending on the source. You should not discharge lead acid batteries below 50% so they don't start failing.
Li-ion batteries are expensive but basically worry-free and will allow you discharge down to 10% of battery capacity (90% DoD). They also last longest!

Just wanted to share a high level summary of the basics, there's a well crafted and concise submission on setting out with solar system at Kobocity. You should go read it.

Whatever you do, don't commit funds into it until you understand what you want to achieve. It is an investment and should be treated as one, also make sure to work with someone that has good referees.

Best of luck.

Thanks for sharing this. I got value!

I’m always ashamed to share my energy cost on a public forum. Since November 2020 till date, I’ve only bought N6,000 credit. I’ve relied 100% on renewable energy.

Abi make I share my meter number to check if this is true?
A transformer that I installed for an event center got only N11k bill pere in the first month of use during the handover stage.
There are at least 16 3hp ACs in the building and about 20 2HP. I did 60 x 60 energy saving lights in the hall. I think I have over 60 pcs installed.

Renewable energy can be expensive if you don’t control its use.
Another important thing is the selection of your household equipment.

Nero2424:
Can you share the picture? If you can't can you send me the address privately? so I can look it up on Google earth, if that building exist in a ghetto I will come back here and testify.

Then you’ll privately share with another friend who will share privately with another.
You that I know that you’re my friend at arm length Then it becomes a collective share ehn

And we are discussing security right? Bro Nero2424 why na

What you wanted is the least worry for me but I won’t do it. I’m not sorry.

If you can dig my old posts, you’ll find what you’re looking for.

BuildingProject:
@next. My Bàbà láti Don come again oh.

So we're almost through with the block setting and by Monday we should start the parapet. (pre-cast) Here is the quotation he dropped again for just labor.

Please kindly help me to peruse the quotation and if it's worth the amount. It's a standard 3 bedroom flat.

Thanks at all

You're reporting him to chairman of the Baba Latis

I hope tomorrow is not too late to reply you on this. Let me ask Clement some questions as he knew the site and the magnitude of the project. You may want to ask him once again if he made a mistake in the numbers though.

Preparing reinforcement for the next stage of work

Ground floor beam poured.

Next > Sandfilling

gbadexy:
Solar is really worth it but you have to prepare for the raining season when the sunlight is not bright enough.
I've gone off-grid also due to the crazy bills phcn give me. The initial cost could be high but it would pay for itself on the long.
Like you rightly stated the batteries emit gases. Even the sealed maintenance free ones but the wet cell gives off more harmful gas and needs adequate ventilation. It's the one I use because it can last 5 years when well maintained and prevented from draining totally before recharging it. You just need to monitor the water indicator level and top it. Perhaps every 3 to 6 months. Although mine is going 3 months and the level is pretty much as it was when they fixed it.
I changed my freezer to a new model that uses 90 watts and use led bulbs and standing fan even though I could easily use it with ceiling fan.
During high sun period from around 10 am, I use ceiling fan, washing machine and it doesn't affect the battery because while the battery is still charging fast at high sun period, excess charge power those appliances directly simultaneously.
I reckon if I have to replace the batteries in 3 years, it would still amount to paying N10000 monthly with 24 hrs of power. It's still worth it.

Going off grid is the way to go. There are few cool stuffs out there that’ll make you enjoy your system.

Kobocity’s First Build | Taste Meets Budget

https://www.kobocity.com/d/80-first-time-owner-builder/170

Nnamdi by NextHome gave a foretaste of roof built on budget

#aluminumcladding #noparapet

somehow:
At least, batteries can't be monthly na.

+ this has to be integrated into your building design.

I don’t like having batteries inside the house for health concerns and possible fire hazard if not well ventilated.

rotecch77:
Let’s build this update/ cost.

A contemporary eatery design with pent.
A story building consists of 6 flats.

What to expect
- day to day activities pics update
- cost per each stage
- questions and answer about the project

Duration 180day ( for the eatery)

Arbo contractor Ltd ( rotech77)

Watch out for new thread for the project

Nice one @rotecch77

More wins to you!

micgray100:
Secondly... see second paragraph above...see your claim where you said you never mention building glass shop... But you design a floor to ceiling glass shop.. . LORI IRO ....

He shock you* . many of us are good listeners..

Reason why I told you to be firm in your words ..
remember you can't sweet word me the same way you sweet word your clients..

Proffessional will always tell you the truth... Digital just did.. Many have done in our discussion.. you keep sweet wording them..

Sigh!

The drawing in Pic 1 shared in my post meant nothing to you right? Or interpretation of drawings is also your issue ?

It’s well! I really can’t help you anymore on this. You’re indeed a very good listener. Comprehension is just a major problem even when there are pictures and diagram to aid you, you still miss it.

I’m sure it’s the floor-ceiling part that confused you.

Below is the picture of floor-to-ceiling glass installation for learning purpose.

You win! Congratulation to you sir.

Dijita:
hence the word be cognizant of your environment

Yes but that doesn’t mean Nigeria isn’t ready for it.

We need protection but we need to always remember that we are building 250 naira cement-sand blocks that can be opened with cheap demolition grouts (chemicals) out there.

Security starts with our designs.

Dijita:
Good morning Ne3t. If anyone recommended glass house with no burglary and you go along, I will blame you. A while back you posted/commented on Peter Okoye house which is a lot of glass with no burglary. I told myself then that many of us cannot afford the type of security he can afford to surround himself for protection.
We all love good things but we have to be cognizant of our environment

There are many things we cannot share online but I have a building that does not have a single burglary in the ghetto part of Nigeria and it has been in existence for almost 10 years.

It’s not burglar proofs that protect us. Just be good to the people around you!

micgray100:
@N3XT...
I EXPECT YOU TO BE FIRM IN YOUR WORDS...

You initially recommended shops to be build with only glass without burglary... now you changing when definite examples are given here...

Now you have entered glass display again reinforce with iron gate... why is it reinforced with iron gate...

Advance baba lati... be firm in your words...

HOW WILL YOU ENCOURAGE A NIGERIAN BUILD THIS KIND OF BUILDING IN IKORODU... AND YOU WANT HIM TO SLEEP WITH HIS TWO EYES CLOSED.. HABA BRO NEXT...

Show me where I said a glass shop will be built sir. Just share the screenshot.

I don’t know why you chose to pick on me for no reason.

Is this how professionals work? Or you have issues with comprehension sir?

That’s how you’re calling mantrap security doors used in banks hammerglass. I just decided to move on because it clearly show you have no idea what hammerglass is and what its made of and you chose not to research before coming online to prove what’s not.

I’m surprised you didn’t write MNSE now
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The glass building you’re seeing up there is ongoing in Sagamu not even Ikorodu and it’ll be built and nothing is gonna happen to it.

In another news, advanced baba lati just got another minimalist building certified by Lagos state. Guess what, there’s a wall-to-Wall 6m multi-fold glass door in the build.

Na play mode I dey o

SolarConsultant:
Good morning Thread, it’s such an amazing time getting to learn a lot on this platform, this is to me more like a request to help in educating us about building roofs for the future of energy

Having been in the trenches of energy production from the sun, and by consistent study on the types of roof people use, I have actually observed they didn’t build with sun energy in mind, because of the slope, slants, geo-coordinates facing, and we should know well that the nearest future of energy generation for buildings is a sole or personal power generation, and the more we are critical about building to get the best energy from the sun the better and cheaper for every building or home, this is why most people spend a lot more than their friends, just because of no future mindedness of their roof as against generation of power from the sun.

I intended to help educate us on how to make the best out of roof styles and choices, before completing our buildings. This is really key, because generating power from the sun requires space, and most buildings don’t have ground space enough to cater for that, all they have is their roof, so why not take this as critical

Can I go ahead with this for the next few days, with detailed information and instructions before roofing buildings to make the best efficient use of it

I’ll like to take a seat in the front row in this class.

There’s a special gift (recognition and a value poster award) for you if you can also do this on kobocity.com

#sustainablebuilding #thermalefficiency

spyder880:
Works on the foundation beams, sand filling, and preparations for the DPC cast is in progress............

Well done baba!

This foundation design is more thorough than raft foundations.

Homextras:
And it’s just four flats? Rough estimate please?

My sincere apologies. I’m just seeing this.

The build is 5 units of 2 bedroom flats with space for a BQ and ample space for parking on both sides of the building and the front.

8 cars can conveniently park within the compound.

Attached is the site plan with and without BQ also showing the number of car that can park within the compound.

The main building alone can fit into a 500sqm plot of land.
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A site survey will be required to determine how much will deliver this build in Sangotedo. If you have soil information (I mean soil test report), I can give you a ballpark figure for this project.

XL6 Trillion | Atrium House by NextHome

We’re ready to pour.


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Preparations for the superstructure has begun.

- Sandcrete block production ongoing (most affordable pricing)
- Preparation of Column extensions underway


More updates on this build here: https://www.kobocity.com/d/157-construction-journal-xl6-trillion-atrium-house-by-nexthome/51

NextHome H52 - Drab to Fab 2014


I know most people living in an unsecured Nigeria will pick Pic 1.

I have nothing to fear or worry about so a transparent wall with a simple slat iron protector has always worked for me.
No break-in recorded in the multi-million naira office.