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LastWeek1:
I actually just found someone who said he will do it for 2300 per sqm and also agree on 3.6sqm per a bag of cement. I just hope he is not waiting on reducing the quality of it.

That’s the person telling you the truth. You see!!! And he’s the one you’re doubting

Because of the magnitude of my ongoing project (2600sqm), I’m doing 2100 per sqm and it’s 3.6sqm per bag.
Don’t go and price the guy down o. He might not be able to source materials cheaper than I do. My StoneDust cost 70k and cement was gotten 2950.

I recently gave a bill of #1900 per sqm for a 27,400sqm lot.

cooljuman:
Please, I'm in portharcourt, I need 100 bags, can you give me a lafarge dealer contact in portharcourt. Chat me on 0 eight zero 4 seven 7 nine three 7 0

I wish I have a free truck that can travel down. I’d have love to come and do cement business in your region

There’s no way I’d spend 500 per bag on transport.

Between the month of Nov - Dec 2021, I took about 12 trailers. I know how much profit I’d made from that if I sell at #3500 to you guys

But unfortunately, I don’t have a truck that can do this.

I’ll help you ask if from my link how to get it cheaper in PH.

BiigTee:
Chief.. Would i still be paying for transport or offloading fee? Or that's covered already..

Let me clarify.

I don’t sell cement. I’m only helping you to get at official rate the distributors sell it to retailers.

So if you get it 2,900 at your location, I can get it lower.

Just as you’d pay for cost of moving cement to your site when you buy from retailers, you’re expected to do same if you get from my source.

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The cost of offloading is not applicable in your case. It only applies to those who participate in the bulk buy arrangement I do in Sagamu. I get the cement in bulk and everyone buying will pay the offloading fee of N50 (at my site) and move to their respective site (at their own cost).

Some come in trucks and transload directly from Lafarge truck to save the cost of loading/offloading.

This one too dey

zuraking:
lol. We all know most house builder na Kobo kobo people. If the money dey, we go carry money buy house for good location. How will someone be telling me I will spend 13m building an average 3 bedroom bungalow.

I agree but if we don’t spell it out someone might be looking for this type of finish with a small budget.

Everything na levels.

Anytime people ask me to quote, I send them pictures of what each finishing level will look like.


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There are windows that cost as much as 400k per unit (depending on design). You won’t put such in a 6 - 8m build.

So I expect raymondfirstborn to have shown what to expect from the 13m build.

zuraking:
I understand what an AVERAGE finishing is. We can both start the breakdown. 6-8m for an average finishing is fair compared to your 13m

Let’s settle this


Pick one. All na house

LastWeek1:
Oh sorry. He just confirm from him , he said 4sqm per bag. And that he will charge #2600 Per sqm for everything which includes , moulding , laying etc.

This is more like it. However, 4sqm per bag is a whole lot. I do 3.6sqm per bag with 6cm and 3sqm and few pieces per bag with 8cm.

I never tried or encouraged anything above those numbers.

LastWeek1:
Location is Akure and the project coverage area is btw 342sqm to 370Sqm , that’s because 2 diff people with diff quotations.

He assure me of using a good stonedusk which he asked for 2600 per sqm and his measurements came out as 370sqm while the one that plan to mix granite with it, asked for 2800 per sqm and measurements came out as 342sqm.

On your last paragraph, he said he will do 4sqm for the price of 2600 while if I want 3sqm then I will pay 3200.

So, what do you think ?

The last paragraph is where I’m confused.

4sqm - #2600
3sqm - #3200

How’s that possible?

A bag of cement will produce 3.6sqm of 6cm thick interlock.

- A bag of cement is around #3,000
- He will buy stonedust for casting and laying
- He will pay his workers to cast and lay
- Also use his mould.

Please kindly ask how he intends to achieve 4sqm with #2600 or 3sqm with #3200. Don’t accept “Don’t worry Oga. It’s our job.” as answer.

You need to be clear about what you’re getting from the guys.

If he’s charging 2800/sqm, I’ll say that’s too much but if he’s saying 4sqm - #2600, I’ll be worried because it’s impossible!

bixton:
Are these also hydrofoam blocks?
Please be kind to share also their price for production. Thanks.

No! Hydraform brick is from SA. https://hydraform.com/products/interlocking-soil-blockmaking-machines/

The company I’m visiting is an indigenous brick company in Ogun state. They worked on Obasanjo Presidential Library Project.

Good News!!!

https://www.kobocity.com/d/73-get-n2900-cement-from-lafarge

BiigTee:
150bags sir

Are you ready as in right now?

If yes, it can be delivered to you between 2900 - 3000 around sango otta area direct from a Lafarge distributor.


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Anyone in need of cement direct from Lafarge around Ijebu Ode/Sagamu/Ogijo can get in touch with me.

2900 excluding offloading fee (N50)

Carmal90:
Thanks for the advise sir...

But please how can I differentiate between original and the repackaged one sir??

I bought from same store I bought for 3500 last week.

If it’s working for you. That’s a good one!

It’s hard to visible eyes except you catch them red-handed. They’ll seal back the bag neatly.
However, an experienced labourer can sense the difference from the weight. When you sit a rebagged cement, you’ll also notice a void.

Always request for factory sealed cement. I wish it’s that easy though

EazyMoh:
Thanks alot bro, this is very helpful. How I wish I could get the contact so I head there directly. I dey fear these Lagos market boys.
But thanks once again.

It has been a very long time.

Arena is more like a civilized market in Lagos state. Maybe because of the armies sha


Let me help you with a contact in Arena.

Call Daniel 0703 946 0321 and send him the picture of what you want so that he can help you check it in the tools section.

He’s in the market and I’ve transacted lot of business through him without leaving my house. He’ll gladly do it for a token. I hope he’s able to get it though.

Commonsense101:
Thanks alot . This is helpful.
The contact information is not very visible.
I don't know why Nairaland compresses screenshots so much

Here’s the number 0818 888 5818

EazyMoh:
Hello distinguished member, please where can I get a mini concrete poker/vibrator for a personal project?
I found this (pic attached) on aliexpress but I cant afford to wait for it to ship.
I don't mind a Tokunbo unit as well.
Thanks for your help.

Check Arena in Oshodi (Tools Section).

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I saw it there when I was buying my car wrench. The guy first brought the mini poker before he later got me the wrench.

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I can’t remember his number. Just check arena (tools section)

BiigTee:
Thank you.. It would be well appreciated!

What qty will you be needing?

saydfact:
Indeed - long time for me here, Thanks for checking up.

If the local don't meet standard, why hasn't SON kicked it out of the market? #JustAsking.

Yes, like EVERY OTHER imported stuffs are, you expect more higher quality but the question shd be DOES THE LOCAL MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIRED STANDARD ?

Smiles. I taya o. As if the cost of setting up these companies is just 100k and these companies are in the major cities not bush or hideouts.

Even FG buy from African Foundries.

BiigTee:
it is sir, decking slab! I have 4 tons of iron rod on site as we speak! Granite and all set! Just Cement! And Cement is going for 3200 here at atan ota ogun state.

You should be able to get 3,000 direct from Lafarge Ewekoro. Let me see if I can speak with a rep on that axis.

Carmal90:
I bought cement for 3000 today....
Bought last week for 3500 in Ilorin

Bros, watch what you’re buying though. A respected engineer bought some cement 2 weeks ago and the ramp he used it to cast has not dried up till date.

He must have gotten rebagged cement.

A lot of all these unscrupulous elements understand that everyone will be looking for low pricing right now and they’ll do anything to offer you ridiculous price.

I only buy directly from Lafarge and reliable partners.

BiigTee:
Good morning everyone, i have been a long time observer but i have been pushed out of the shadows because of this Cement issue.. Does anyone foresee any price reduction and how soon will it be? I have put a project on hold since November because of Cement and my iron rods are rusting on site! ��..

Oh! I hope it’s not a slab. If it is just quickly find fund to cast the slab because of the formwork.

I can tell you the pricing won’t go lower than 2950 in the foreseeable future.

So if you’re using 200 bags for instance, it’ll only cost you 40 - 50k extra. If you ask me, does it really worth the long wait? NO!

You can even lose some of the things you kept on site while you wait.

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If I’m a contractor on your project, I won’t wait for 2 months to get my job done and move on to other things. I’ll only try as much as possible to save from other areas.

bixton:
Ahhh...you're a business- investor.

All jobs are done on site.
Our relationship started 2013 when I was on freelance with a construction firm. He is always a phone call away.

Relationship is everything.

This is one thing I always make self builders to understand when they wanna chook eyes into DIY. If it’s about saving money, just forget it. If it’s about getting good value for your money and ascertaining quality on every aspect of the build - Go Ahead.

I built a carcass of a massive dwelling for someone with 15m and he was like in his whole life he never believed foundation of such building can cost less than N4m

I told him it can only be possible if you have a very good relationship with the builder/contractor/tradesperson who’s well equipped.

In his case:

- I didn’t bill him specially for formwork for raft; columns and beams; and slab
- I produced over 15,000 sandcrete blocks for him at N40 lesser than market price
- He’s not paying premium on concrete works. I have a mixer on standby for the project.
- I supplied him sand at almost 10k lesser than market price.
- I got him cement at official rate
- He never had to build site storage as I shipped my container storage to the site for few nairas as rental fee.

All these things are what increases the cost of construction.

bixton:
We have never for once had to discuss money to rent moulds directly or indirectly.

So yes it's inclusive of that price.

Is he producing on your site or at his place?

You’re getting a very good deal if he’ll bring his mould to your project at that price. Keep and hold such guy tight o!

I charge between 20 - 25k for rental of my mould (1,000 pcs) for 2 weeks and that excludes cost of transportation.

Mould Rental is a huge business. It cost several thousands to invest in it.

bixton:
Does this price include laying of the stones on the floor or just only moulding?

In my location my guy does it for me at #2000/#2500 depending on the area of coverage inclusive of moulding and laying.

Including mould rental?

Nero2424:
Did you work on this project? Can this brick be molded on site or is it done only at the block factory?

For small projects, you can order from brick maker.

In my case, we hired the machine from hydraform guys and produced on site.

LastWeek1:
Hello guys

Pls if you know much about interlocking, kindly give out some tips. Things are tight right now and I want good quality for this job.

My interlocking man told me he will collect 2,800 per sqm . Few red and Black color, and the rest will be regular white.
Also he said he will mix granite to it. Is this a good deal and how can I monitor him to make sure he uses quality materials throughout.?

He told there are 2 types of molding style , 4sqm is what most people use in the house while 3sqm is for roads.then he said , he will do 4sqm molding style for me . Is this right?

Pls give me suggestions and ideas cos I don’t want him to cheat me because I want quality job.

Thank you

1. I can’t say much about his pricing. Pricing is location dependent.

2. He’s right about using few reds and blacks for demarcation and spotting but that’s fast becoming old school. Note: coloured pigments are expensive.

3. It’s not bad to add granite if he understands how to mix the aggregates correctly. I cannot guarantee that can be achieved with manual mix (hand mix which is what will be used) unless they’re using a mortar mixer (which is 98% unlikely).
If you get good StoneDust for the job, you’ll have great stones.

4. The only way to monitor him is to agree on the quantity of production per day. If the total coverage are of the project is 500sqm, agree with him to do 50sqm per day. I can give you exactly the qty of materials that’ll be required for this including the number of hours 2 mason will achieve it and the number of moulds required.

5. I’m not sure I understand what he’s saying here on the molding style. If it’s about the mould sizes, I think he’s wrong it.
There are more than 3 sizes of mould. The common types are 6cm and 8cm (thickness). 6cm is good for residential while 8cmand above is good for areas with large traffic (road, public parks etc).

If you’re sure he’s talking about doing 4sqm for you, I think I understand why he wanted to add granite, it’s just to make the stones weighty. We don’t do up to 4sqm if you want quality stones. It’s between 3.2sqm - 3.6sqm per bag of cement depending.

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I hope this helps.

bixton:
You will definitely use regular blocks at the foundation level(substructure stage). At your DPC level you will introduce a beam( plinth beam) which is where you start to lay the interlock brick blocks. As a measure to cut cost you can mark out the areas where you want the bricks to be. It can be bricks eternally only and regular blocks internal. Remember this bricks are maintained by proper polishing from time to time so it maintains its colourful nature.

I think everything should be done at the design stage.

megacontrol:
Baba, I've sent you an sms. an sms reply will be much appreciated as my whatsapp is down for now.

Thanks for offering to help always.

I’ll send the number to you. The cool-headed guy I want to send hasn’t pick up but I’ll send the number anyway.

To maintain those equipment, you need cool-headed guys who are not money-conscious.

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He’s not Lagos-based. You may just need to show him how to get to basic spare part market (Jakande will be more like it).

Just few pennies and your machines (no matter the qty ) will be working like new.

uncleteeh:
I not sure, I knew him on twitter.

Ok thanks. I’ll comb Twitter

uncleteeh:
Sure. I know of a guy in lag, he deals with brick. His enterprise is called millishield. You can contact him if you have brick related job.

Thanks bro. Is he on NL?

#NextHomeProjects

megacontrol:
Hello builders,

Pls I need a technician that can service/repair basic construction machines like concrete mixers, poker vibrator etc.

I used to have one guy come in from Agege but lost his contact.

Thanks for your referrals.

Have you gotten someone for this? I have few guys that I use.

There’s also a guy at Ikota School. He’s pricey though.