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oduncojamaica:
Yes, I have similar issued b4, I used soligum,used sniper, diesel and everything, but the situation still persists, my carpenter ask me to buy another hard wood which was used to replace affected members and the one that can't be replaced we put another wood to support it rigidly. Just involved experience carpenter and they will change it.

Even the 250k doors, if you do not have a covered porch over your imported door, it won’t last 3 years.

Gigaset:
I guess the purpose of this thread is to learn so am here to learn, why can´t we talk about the advantages/disadvantages of imported building materials like doors etc for everyone to learn.

Since you have more experience in this field it will be very nice of you to elaborate more on the disadvantages of imported doors

I’ll come back to this.

kopell:
Bros if I tell you some of these wooden doors you see in home depot are made in Enugu you won’t believe me abi. It’s amazing me when I watch only for export wooden products on one of Nigeria tv program few years ago. If you’re interested please watch bank of Industry program on channel tv, you be surprised many of these products are produced in Nigeria. Matter fact there is another Company producing standard wooden door in Mowe close to 15 years display them as imported doors. I’ll look for link and post here for everyone to see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKs1hSOufWs

You’re very correct baba.

Even HouseAffairs on Lagos Ibadan expressway do stock most of these so called locally made “imported doors.”

diordaves:
The 'standard' optimum door measurements for Nigeria is1981 x 838 x 35mm – in most circumstances this provides the required opening width for cabinets and double door American fridge to go through. You may also hear this door size being referred to as a 2’9”. This measurements will fit any well built project. But the beauty of installing wooden doors is that if the door is too wide, knock down the walls to fit the door. If the door is too narrow for the opening, set some blocks to narrow the opening. So in your area look for the above door measurements or something close. You can't go wrong.

[s]However DO NOT BUY THOSE DOORS you attached. Why? The handles are already fixed. If your door space is right handed and the door (handle) is left fixed, that door is near useless for your use. So buy a plain door, hang the door and fix the handle accordingly.[/s]

Go back and look again at my door photos. No handles. This makes the door very flexible for any openings.

Bro’s, do not lead them into temptation with your trial-and-error solutions. You’ve not imported a single door into Nigeria let alone install one to know what it cost (not talking money) those who have towed that path.
I’ve witnessed and done over 100 of those doors and I can tell you those who did regretted the decision.

Well, we need more experience though. So people should feel free to experiment after all it’s their money!
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The owner of the doors below is an old member of this forum. He loved everything foreign and hated naija local tinz

His friend imported the doors below into the country but his engineer condemned it and my Oga gullibly bought them for his own project.

The rest is history! Money wasted.

I wish a lot of us can be could bold enough to come and share our construction experience and the things we wished we did right but as a black man with black mentality, we will never own up to our mistakes.

This story was shared on this same thread some years back.

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If you want more foreign door stories, I’d share.

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The problem of those doors is beyond the concern you raised. A double-sided hinged panel door won’t give you any issue when installing because it had no frame and it can always be mirrored to work both sides.

How you missed this is something I don’t know?

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In Nigeria wey we dey, the handle of a panel door doesn't determine the opening of a door The position of the jamb on the frame does.

I don’t know about LA or UK.

Welcome back to our years of inexperience!

I wish there’s a special thread where we document construction mistakes on different projects.

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World anyone who import foreign doors be kind enough to share with us their installation pics and the look of those doors 5 years later.

Local man wan learn.

Cheap Foreign Door in a popular Nigerian store.

Valuepaints20:
Sir how much is that TV stand

AFP Standard abi Brabus Standard?

uncleteeh:

Baba stop this na.
But wetin Adamu no go see for gate?
Who will come out to defend this trash?

Na so we dey play here o. No pun intended.

#petcemetary
#isopako

That’s how we roll here

I’ve known Vina since the 80s. Visit their showroom in Ibadan, Lagos, Abuja, Port Harcourt, Kano to see best of naija locally made furnitures.

Note: dem no dey import turkey doors o

AFP

While we are waiting, here are the top contenders in Nigeria

1. AFP
2. Vina

Bring any furniture from any part of the world, you’d find something similar or even better in the showroom of these local furniture companies.

Pic 1-3 | AFP
Pic 4 | Vina

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Note: These aren’t 3D models o.

seunpinky:
Pls would appreciate it if you can share pictures of the doors when they arrive Nigeria.

Would like to compare them with what is obtainable in The Nigerian premium wooden door market.

I know some here has posted some high quality wooden doors in the past, would like to see the difference btw our high quality wooden doors and the foreign wooden doors you ll be importing.

Shebi na inport?

For every imported doors anyone have to share here, I’ll post 2 local doors that are 3 times better.

I won’t mind sharing some imported furnitures I bought too and show you what’ they’re made off.

Just so you know it, no be today I start to dey import furnitures from abroad.

diordaves:
Forget abroad levels. I be Warri-Sapele brought up. 18 foot, yes but straight no bend? That thing is looking for a virgin in a maternity ward.

Straight wood die with AT&P. But one can't know it all. Please share the area for Sapele and I will send someone to check it out. I'm about to import wooden doors from B&Q because of the poor cut quality of woods available. I will need a lot of recutting and sanding to get the doors to the quality finish I want and I don't want to do this.

Good Night! Wishing you a Happy Import!!

erico2k2:
you have not been to a sawmill B4 hence you are saying such, go to sapele and see 18 foot plus 2x4 straight no bends, what you guys get in the east and other places are hand sawm logs,

Those 18 foot plank is what makes sapele thick.

EgunMogaji2:
You know I live in Ibadan. WTF do I need to go to Benin just to get lumber?

F Benin, show me the way in Ijebu.

You asked me to come down to downtown LA and I knew I can get far, far better woods in Benin.

I’m son of a forester and niece of the first woman with a logging stamp hammer in Nigeria.

I know where to get gooooooood woods.

EgunMogaji2:
Okay so now you’re showing us where to get straight woods. Very good.

No need to be condescending. You come across better as the solution provider that you are.

Where in Ijebu? As I’ll be there this weekend. Unless it’s some sort of closely guarded ojuju shrine thing

I’ll now share my trade secret with you, you’ll now give it to your jankara supplier

Baba, if you want straight woods, it’s in the market but you’ll pay heavily for it.

#JustAsk

EgunMogaji2:
Let's meet in downtown LA and I'll show you around small lumber shops.

You can't give what you don't have

https://lmgtfy.app/?q=los+angeles+lumber+yard

YInmu.

Baba, let’s do Benin. I’ll show you what’s obtainable in standard lumber yards.

diordaves:
First photo: iso Pako Sheffield UK.

Second photo: iso Pako South Africa. South Africa that we think we are better than o.

Can you see how straight and to size the cuts are? Only in Nigeria will you pass a straight cut wood as premium. In "ordinary" South Africa it is the norm.

There's truly something about us as a Nation.

And you haven’t see these before in Ijebu Ode or Benin or J4?

Stop buying cheap na. Go to where they sell quality or ship in from Iso Pako in SA or LA

There’s nothing wrong with us as a nation. We are just too paranoid that we blow things out of proportion.

EgunMogaji2:
Local man just cannot can

But I’m sure there’s a method to this madness.

Maybe that’s how they lay tiles in Ontario.



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It was here I learnt that casement window opening inward and burglar bar installed outside is a style in Germany

EgunMogaji2:
I don’t agree with you sha.

Any market that I enter in Los Angeles, be it Home Depot, Lowe’s, Orchards I’m guaranteed threat lumber.

I shouldn’t have to go to a specialty store to get what should be normal.

This excuse is played out. Bring us quality, we’ll pay for it.

I don’t know there’s iso pako in LA.

seunpinky:
This posts reminds me of when my dad used to be a contractor with JB and Costain. He was supplying them with woods, I would hear him begging his guys to ensure they follow the exact specifications on the job order... Sometimes the woods are rejected during delivery whenever the QC spots any inconsistency. However, these companies paid premium price for the quality they desire.

You get the gist already.

How can you enter jankara market and be looking for premium service? And still end up rubbing it on all Nigerians?

diordaves:
So it is the Nigerian factor then. But that theory that the trees are not straight does not hold water. That same crooked tree will be exported to China or Germany and it will be cut perfectly straight to size.

[s]There is something about us as a people. We're largely not thorough, diligent and regards best practice as too much work. Short cut and quick money is ingrained in most of us.[/s]

This is so wrong though.

Would sawmillers sell crooked and substandard woods if some people are not buying them?

Well we are different though. I knew what I want and I paid the price.

Meanwhile there’s Julius Berger AFP for those who want best of naija woods

diordaves:
People have actually harvested young virgins private parts and organs for money rituals and testifying. Should I also be concerned about the scientific method?

In Calabar, people have sacrificed new born twins to ward off evil spirits and testifying. Scientific method?

People have harvested hunchback organs for whatever reasons and testifying. Scientific reasons?

People have mutilated new born babies and call them Abiku; Ogbanje.

Voodoo in any form and practice is a primitive and backward practice that stands science on its head.

If you believe animal sacrifice ward off termites, you will believe anything!!!

Did you see my last post? Clean, fresh and neat wood installed 10 years ago.

No be my wood termite dey chop and I’m not selling solution.

I don’t worry too much preferring solutions. Just do what work for you.

EgunMogaji2:
Some of us will pay the difference. I spend an inordinate amount of time "straightening" lumber.

I paid thrice the regular market price for my roofing woods.

They’re not only straight. They can survive under any harsh condition. I really mean harsh.

KolaShangOne:
My opinion (culled from my experience)

-MOST TREES are not straight.

It's not a lack of equipment that's the problem.
It's also not a local of skill.

It's mostly about profit maximisation and waste minimization. I'll try to explain.

Firstly, from the bush where its cut, loggers sell in logs. Then the guys that saw (lets call them "Sawers" it into 2x12 planks are next.

Remember, most trees aren't straight.
So these guys follow the warpness of the natural wood to cut into planks because if they go straight, instead of getting maybe 6 planks, they get 3 or 4.

That's bad for biz.

If you buy a 2x12 wood from the mill, you're expected to produce at least 5 to 6 numbers of 2x2.

If you want to cut perfectly straight, you'd probably get 3 or 4 numbers of 2x2 which increases your cost.

The koko of the matter is “Client go gree pay the extra cost for special woods?”

Straight wood is possible if you’re ready to pay the extra cost.

Hatesin:
Hahahaha!!
Oga N3xt over to you then.

What you’re dealing with is wood beetle and not termite.

You need to deal with the problem from the source. They love woods in damp (not necessarily wet) areas.
Roofing wood, kitchen cabinets, wardrobes backing bathroom are some of the most vulnerable furnitures attacked by the bettle.

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Pic 1 - 3 | Does these pics represent what you’re currently experiencing?

Awon anti-ambode pro-chemical users have taken over this thread

diordaves:
This is commendable no doubt but sticking to plan and working collaboratively is part of the job description of good governance. Ambode lacked this.

I don’t think so. He was different and that’s something the system doesn’t want.

The system want to spend 30 years to build Lekki/Epe expressway but Ambode want to deliver Epe, Agege, Oshodi, Iyana Ipaja roads in less than 24 months. There’s no way the system will like such a man.

Just take a look at Epe city and many other Ambode verifiable projects for instance. Don’t you like what you see?

For the records, the collaborative govt of Lagos state has been building the heavily tolled Lekki/Epe expressway since the days of Tinubu and we are not even half way.

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@diordavies

Ambode is a presidential material that Nigeria need now.

His legacies in the short period as governor of Lagos state will transcend time.

https://www.nairaland.com/attachments/10026853_img5_jpge7e75f835299fe5f7ed1dac89b4f2c77

Just take a look at Oshodi... to think this guy spent just 4 years to achieve so much in Lagos

diordaves:
Ambode best thing ke? Shebi una refuse am second term?

But Ambode no do me well sha o. I invest in 6 plots for Ikorodu in anticipation of the Lagos mainland master plan. Thinking say, going by the plan na Ikorodu turn to explode development wise. Ambode come enter office, abandone plan and begin do wetin he like. This really set lkorodu back in terms of opening up. That one no good na.

All hope is not lost. Epe still dey there.

Meanwhile I’d advice you keep the land because it’ll soon turn to Ikorodu.