₦airaland Forum

JeSoul:
Its in the 70s today though . . . I've been wondering whether its November or whether its Summer lol.

they call it the Indian summer. (I don't know whether this is a good way to refer to the short unusually warm spell just preceding the onset of winter. It smacks of those disparaging attributes that  the west is wont to give one to reinforce their minority and unusual status.

JeSoul:
I don't see how you can say that. What punishment do you suggest he should be served with? Why does he get to keep his life when he took the lives of 10 innocent people? the youngest he shot was a 13yr old on his way to school. That this monster has been permitted to live the past 7yrs while his victims lie 6 feet deep is in itself an injustice.

Do not get me wrong. What he did was horrible and the loss he occasioned can never be reclaimed. I am questioning the aptness of death it self as a form of punishment. May be there are philosophical issues to raise about the eventuality of death as a suitable deterrence. But then, I am also reminded of death as was to metted out on Amina lawal ij Nigeria if you may recall  for adultery, or as metted out in Somalia just last week or as is often undertaken in Saudi Arabia.

davidylan:
But you werent worried about his crime right? He killed 10 innocent people and left children in a lifetime of pain and sorrow but killing him is "inhuman"?

I wish the death penalty could be extended to muslim terrorists too.

Why do you wear your eclectic lenses when making sense of what others posted. Muhammad's acts were atrocious and deserved the worst form of retribution possible. We both agree on that. My criticism is with the death penalty as a form of retributive justice. The world is moving (should move) towards abolishing all manner of death sentence as a form of punishment.

@Jesoul

Hallo. It is getting colder here at Waltham if you get my drift.

Now the execution my be considered punitive based on current Virginia laws. But it one of those last acts of meting justice that is inhuman and should be done away with eventually. Death penalty is no punishment even for atrocious acts such as committed by Muhahamed.

chinook:
@mwanamiwa

nice pics from the lake side.

what happened to the proposed karen referral hosiptal,is the construction on or its another white elephant project?

@naliaka

are u already in kenya??

Chinook

Hapana. I am just following Mwanamwiwa's photo shoot from my Enugu perch. Just plenty of reminiscing about Kenya.
Something tells me that this thread should be a dear site for your ministries of Local Governement (especially the Nairobi metropolitan department) and Tourism, It provides a lot more in visual terms than any governmental site and thus a sure destination for anyone wishing to visit Kenya. I am sure both the mayor and the minister will admit to seing a lot more about Nairobi onn this thread than anywhere else on the internet.
Seun my Enugu brother should be thanked for making this possible.

I wonder if Mwanamwiwa occasionally, if ever, visit any of those offices or ever discussed such with the concerned.
Just a thought

vislabraye:
Tonto is pretty. Without make up she's still ok

Seconded. That girl is very pretty. She would give Omo a run but just. She is prettier without make her.

Bleach or no bleach Rita has a homely beauty. My trouble with her is her spirited effort to hide her short beautiful hair under weird wigs.

Omotola

Rita's shape spoils her dressing. Dakore Mmmmmmm! tiny and eyes stand out overshadowing everything else

Ahsante for the UK photos. I guess you ate that Tilapia dish with relish

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/11/9/15836/1105

American Family Association Calls for Purging of Military Muslims
by Red Sox

American Family Association Calls for Purging of Military Muslims
Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 12:21:12 PM PST

Well, this wasn't totally predictable or anything. In the wake of the tragic murders at Fort Hood, the American "Family" Association has called for the purging of Muslims from the military.


A chief spokesman for the pro-life, far-right organization, American Family Association, has called for the purging of Muslim soldiers from military ranks in the wake of the tragic killings at Fort Hood.

Bryan Fischer, AFA's Director of Issues Analysis, put up a relatively unnoticed blog post last Friday arguing that U.S. command needed to "stop the practice of allowing Muslims to serve in the U.S. military."

"The reason is simple," Firscher wrote, "the more devout a Muslim is, the more of a threat he is to national security. Devout Muslims, who accept the teachings of the Prophet as divinely inspired, believe it is their duty to kill infidels. Yesterday's massacre is living proof. And yesterday's incident is not the first fragging incident involving a Muslim taking out his fellow U.S. soldiers."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/,

I myself have argued here today that in light of recent revelations about Maj. Hasan and his involvement with a once-controversial mosque in Virginia, that discussing this association is fair game, now that there's something substantive beyond just Maj. Hasan's faith. However, the AFA has now gone way over the line with a policy that is nakedly Islamophobic.

In his blog post, Mr. Fischer wrote:

Of course, most U.S. Muslims don't shoot up their fellow soldiers. Fine. As soon as Muslims give us a foolproof way to identify their jihadis from their moderates, we'll go back to allowing them to serve. You tell us who the ones are that we have to worry about, prove you're right, and Muslims can once again serve. Until that day comes, we simply cannot afford the risk. You invent a jihadi-detector that works every time it's used, and we'll welcome you back with open arms.

This is not Islamophobia, it is Islamo-realism.

This guilty-until-proven-innocent tack is not only dangerously bigoted, it's plainly anti-American. In recent years, Presidential Candidate Mike Huckabee received their endorsement, and speakers at their events have included Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), Senator Jim DeMint (R-S.C.), House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.), Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.), Rep. Tom Price (R-Ga.), and Rep. Chris Smith (R-NJ).

It's time to demand that these political leaders publicly condemn the AFA.

What a great example of a great Nigerian spokesperson.

damseldami:
omotola it is, stephanie okereke is also fabulous but omotola just evens it out

God bless you Damseldami. I tire pointing out this simple truth to Nairalanders and some just cannot get it. Omotola first then all the others combined into one come a distant second. Just look at those photos you posted.

Omotola kwenu!
Omotola kwenu!
Kwenzenuuuuuoo/

Country with most beautiful women? Rwanda, Ethiopia, Kenya and Somali in that order. Nigeria is tied with Zimbabwe somewhere at number 27.

chinook:
@mwanamiwa

we have been appreciating the beauty of nairobi but when kenya want to be in the leagues of south africa and egypt then its high time they devolve city development to other towns.

the capital should now be moved to either eldoret or nakuru which still enjoy enormous land for expansion.

i was in nairobi recently and there was one tower coming up along muindu bingu at the intersection of muktada street,next to nakummatt life sytle,i was really fascinared by the building but i din't have a camera with me.i thinks it has reaches around 15th floor by now.

do you have any renders for the building?

Now Now. These Nairobi go tire me oh. But Chinook you do have a point. A few postings on this thread showed us what some other Kenyan Towns look like. but only Mombasa and Kisumu townships featured. I would love to see pictures of other Kenyan cities. Mwanamwiwa has done great in the last couple of pictures by giving life to the beauty of NBI. She has also shown the beauty of the countryside. Now let us see the beauty of say Athi River or Machakos or Nyeri townships.

If only some of Nollywood celebrities were Nairalanders, I know we would moderate our viriol against them and say the correct things such as Tonto is a very beautiful lady regardless.

A lot depends on the parameters used. It seems size is the yardstick here. the link you provided had a another parameter, namely per ca pita. For Africa I would be satisfied if the attribute of strong economy is matched by equity of benefit to the citizens. This would remove SA and Nigeria from their perches and instead allow Botswana as a stronger and effective economy.

Kobojunkie:
Lol . . .  Oh now no one else KNOWS of modifiers except your person?

Certainly, but not in a gratuitous sense as you suggest. I do it as an interlocutor of this language among others with like performance. You are not in that league judging by the length of time it takes you to make sense of  the point I am making.

Kobojunkie:
By the way, the modifier in this case would be ISLAMIC if you did not realize that. What the modifier does , in this case,is stress that this was not your typical terrorist but an Islamic terrorist. It does not; I repeat, IT DOES NOT allude in any way to your claim that ALL ISLAMICS ARE CONSIDERED TERRORISTS by that phrase there.

There are no delusions here: just plain facts pure and simple. let  me try one last time. The genesis of my grouse with the expression "Islamic Terrorist"   recognizes that the coinage has a burden of context and of history. If you scroll this thread  a few postings back, you will find my prior allusion to Said's orientalism and Achebe's take of the same as the template of my objection to continued use of such expressions. In short "Islamic terrorist" is not a simple signifier of individual who does harm such as the Major at Fort Hood, but a construction that reifies the sense of otherness of  Muslims in Western Mindset. In this mindset, terror is conceptualized as the butt end of beings not fully conceived as human in-fact bestial and whose faith stand in diametric opposition to real "civilized human beings. In other words the propensity to terror is projected as the[i] raison de etre[/i] of Islam. If you watched fox news you saw the result of this association where all at once, Muslims  became the target of accusation and not the individual culprit (the major). It is as if by declaring that I am a Muslim, the next word on that scale is terrorist. This is why wise counsel demand that we uncouple these two terms buddy especially if the intention is to equalize human worth and dignity across races and religions. It is as simple as this.

Kobojunkie:
Instead of trying to attack me with silly reasoning and insults, maybe you ought to head back to school to get yourself some English lessons to boot. Dude, I am not even an academic, and I can easily tell that you are full of bull with the above.

I am not attacking you. I object to being called a dude. You cannot stand my attacks if I were to start. So take it simple and easy. Making sense of semantics and how they are contextually (culturally implicated) in the globalized world is certainly not the exclusive monopoly of  academics. Don't give them that much credit. As to being full of BULL,  lol, seems you like and relish the flavor of my bull so I will give you more. Tell me if you like its  green color and steamy aroma as well, or would you prefer it green  mixed with brown

Poor Kobojunkie
Consider this my last rejoinder to your postings on this matter. You can have the last word.

Kobojunkie:
That, is absurd!! An Islamic Terrorist is one who happens to be of the Islamic faith, as well as a terrorist. Dude, English Language did not SUDDENLY change in the last 10 years. Stop MAKING things up!

You need to learn one or two thing about modifiers that come before the nouns they modify. They are used to bestow in toto the adjectival attributes on the subject. You say "An Islamic Terrorist is one who happens to be of the Islamic faith, as well as a terrorist..  Right but you downplay the obvious association of terror and Islamic faith as  inextricable correlatives in the above assertion. I wonder what kind of grammar they teach you in 9ja nowadays. This is the general association that is being made with dangerous consequences for those who profess Islamic faith. Being Islamic has no equivalence with being a terrorist. And dare you call me Dude again, I will report you to the moderator before looking for a koboko you agbero.

The Health Reform bill barely passes in House: 220-215. A major hurdle passed. I wonder how Tayo-D feels

The Health Reform bill barely passes in House: 220-215. A major hurdle passed. I wonder how Tayo-D feels

Tayo-D:
@naliakar,
Regarding the statement in bold, I believe it is safe to say that the motivation the guy had to commit the terror act was Islam.  Would he have done the same thing if he was not a muslim?  The answer is NO.

Tayo-D

How are you? I thought I saw someone like you in the Michele Bechmann anti-reform demo on capital hill. Now to your rejoinder above: tell if if Tiller's killer can be referred to wholesomely as a christian terrorist?

yeswecan:
Not all Muslims are terrorists, there are humble muslims and we all know this. However i think it is safe to say the man in question is an Islamic terrorist. It is no coincidence he shouted Allah Akbar before the atrocious act occurred, this is my point and i don't think it is stereotyping in any way.

Yeswecan

NO. Repeat after me: "A terrorist who is a Muslim." The adjective must not precede the noun terrorist because then it implicates Islam in the motive for terror. Let the accentuation be on "terrorist" first and let the reference to Islam be a trailing adjunct that explains more who the terrorist is but is inconsequential to the act.

Kobojunkie:
Come on!!!  The man TOOK TIME TO SHOUT OUT “Allah Akbar”. He was apparently drawing people’s attentions to Allah (The Muslim god) and not Buddha, or the Christian God or Krishna. He took time to REGISTER THAT in people’s minds.  That could easily be interpreted as meaning the man was another ISLAMIC TERRORIST meaning another one doing it for the glory of ALLAH.
The fact that we have been in war for over 8 years now and have seen this sort of behavior over and over is reason enough why NO ONE can claim IGNORANCE when it comes to identifying all too apparent cases such as this one.

If one reported he was an AMERICAN terrorist, how in the world could that be interpreted to mean ALL AMERICANS ARE TERRORISTS? No such straw man please!

The man is a clear ISLAMIC TERRORIST, most likely expected to be killed considering he should have been. I mean we are talking of a military base where guns are assumed to be in every nook and corner. I am certain the man did not expect to make it alive but maybe Allah was not on his side that day.

I want to think that there is a difference between  so called "Islamic terrorist" and a "terrorist who is a Muslim". I wish to emphasize the latter as the most appropriate signifier when discussing the tragic events at Fort Hood. If there is anything I get from this thread, it  is that most contributor sucked in what Said  espouses as Orientalism.

By equating terrorism with Islamic religion you  seem to be purveying the same posture of one who has been constructed by the might of the empire as the Other. You seem incapable of coming out of your set up as a foil to enhance the West's  domination. Achebe talks about this too in his Hopes and impediments when discussing Conrad.

From Columbine to Virginia Tech, I have never heard of collectivized accusation of White Christians or Korean immigrants respectively. Yet when  a tragic action such as Fort Hood's happens and , caused by an aberrant individual who  professes Islamic faith,we scream "Islamic terrorist".  We are forgetting that by all counts this was an American citizen, born and bred in the US with minimal (iI presume) contact with Palestine,

So if the tea-bag republicans are wing nuts, am I suppose to think that Tayo or JeSoul (republicans in this forum) are also wing nuts? Hell NO. Let us deal with this as a tragic act committed by an individual who happens to be a Muslim. Let us not  further the sin of dimorphic perception of them (Muslims) and Us (human beings). It is the cause of much hatred in the world.

Siena:
Yes, she's a beaut, watched my first movie with her in yesterday (Guilty Pleasures).

Will look out for Reloaded.

Good movie although (as usual) her role was diminished by the clearly manly bent in the story. She is passive all through, unclear of her cues (comes out as hesitant action) and seems to act only in response. For a character (celebrity model in the movie) she seems to have no action of her own and the story ends up accentuating sibling mischief between Ramsey and what is his name? She is more appealing in reloaded although that movie should not have been conceived in the first place. waste of talent-hours.

1.Omo (unassailable)
2.Gene
3. Yvone Nelson
4. Bimbo Akintiola (my grand father would approve of her as a woman with a wifely shape
5. Eucharia Anunobi (same as above)
6, Come to think of it: Chioma and Clarion are not bad at all in terms of shape.

The rest

Stephanie's shape is enhanced by the trappings she dons. her height is good though and the shape of her lips would send men running crazy.
Rita has no shape but beautiful by African standards.
Tonto. Great body and  sizzling.
Ini reminds me of most girls from Anambra ( I know she is not from there, just comparing):big upper bodies and disproportionate lower parts)- lovely nose and shapely lips though.
Mercy Johnson : Yes Mercy Good and shapely-give it to her. Problem is she is conscious of it but I would give her credit.
Nadia Buari-Girlish shape.

the bottom line is Omo is still the paragon in matters shapely and beautiful and gene is trying although in a profile position her butts disappear (not big enough).

OgidiBoy:
*hisses*

Stephanie?? More hisses.

0sisi:
Is this jihad related?
an Islamic terrorist attack?
we are yet to find out

This is stereotyping at its worst. Why should the murderous actions of one individual be collectivized as Islamist or Jihadist? Let us not go there

Aloy~Emeka:
Which kain borrow?. Na her body be that nau.

Thanks for bringing sanity to this conversation Aloy-Emeka. With those pictures of Omo, you have safely locked all the words that could be used to describe structured shape and beauty in Nollywood.

It is really insulting to the integrity of shapeliness and structured beauty if the conversation does not begin and end with OMO-SEXY. .What is it with these Nairalanders?

THE-AMAKA:
things like this is what naliakar is vexing over?
lol
we are not talking of beauty but red carpets and other places.
omo doesnt dress that well.
things like this:

I had unsubscribed from this thread until I was alerted that you put up Omo's picture. God My God, will 9ja ever ever produce a beauty like Omo. the Amaka has something against Omo's  grace. But look again at that outfit. Its shortcomings notwithstanding, can't you see that Omo gives it character, seductiveness, sensuousness. Imagine this outfit on say Dominic? The word fashion would be deleted permanently from parlance. But with Omo donning it, I now I can sleep in peace. I think Omo should be the official face of 9ja.

ponytail:
Genevieve wins by a very long margin. , Omotola I'm sorry to say is not close. She is an equally beautiful woman, undeniably one of the most beautiful in Nollywood, but her dress sense is not exactly appealing. She is not doing badly (at all) body-wise for a woman with four kids, but her carriage and dress sense leave much to be desired.

This is heresy. Moderatora are you seeing this? Someone daresay Omo does nit fit the bill!! I am unsubscribing from this thread now.

I consider it a crime to use adjectives beautiful and hot to any Nollywwod lady other than the following in the pecking order:

Omo(best)
Yvone nelson
Queen Nwokoye
gene
Tonto
Chika Ike and Rucky sanda (she sizzles)

the second tier would be topped by Ini etc