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RomanceRe: Why Am I So Attracted To Women Who Wear Suits? by naturalwaves: 3:12pm On Aug 10, 2012
Lolaabokoku: what is the meaning of gigolo
A guy that dates older women basically for financial benefits(sugar mummies so to say).The male version of girls that follow sugar daddies
FamilyRe: My Brother-in-law And My Car by naturalwaves: 2:15pm On Aug 10, 2012
nahinbdis: Actually, he is not my wife's brother. He is my elder sister's husband. They were both over the seas, returned to Naija to marry. She has returned and he is yet to.
Hahahaha,now I get d pic.because of d type of relationship between u two(he is older,ur elder sis hubby),it will be very very difficult for u to be blunt to him dat u don't want him to use d car.Maybe U should look for a component to remove from d vehicle without wich d vehicle won't be able to move whenever u are away and do not fuel it also xcept wen u need it.If he complains about d faults to u wen u back from work,just tell him u will check and attend to it lateron.This should drastically reduce his usage of d vehicle.When u need to use d car,replace it and pretend as if d vehicle is aving mental touches.lol.leave that component again for a day or two and then remove it again.like that like that and like that.At least,his usage will be cut down by about 70%.
SportsRe: Usain Bolt Is Using Performance Enhancing Drugs? by naturalwaves: 1:41pm On Aug 10, 2012
aribisala0: What the article tells us,if we accept it,is that testing for cheats is limited and it is quite easy to beat the best tests.
If this were true this facility is available to everyone.
The facility to cheat undetected is available to everyone NOT just Bolt.
BOLT can NEVER prove he is not cheating and it would be ridiculous to ask him to.
Rather those who accuse him should prove he is. If they say well the tests are a joke and want us to ASSUME he is then we must assume EVERYONE is not just BOLT which still leaves us with the conclusion he is the BEST.

Why are no white people even making it to the Finals of the 100m can't they cheat too?
We heard Maradona once tested positive for cocaine.
If cocaine was all it takes to be a Maradona then the poster here should be a great footballer
Bravo! Intelligence at it's peak!
SportsRe: Usain Bolt Is Using Performance Enhancing Drugs? by naturalwaves: 1:30pm On Aug 10, 2012
abhosts: For the First time in the History of a 100m Final, 7 Athletes finished under 10 Seconds. Is man getting Faster or is Science playing a role?
Very good question.Maybe U should open another thread on this.It's going to be an interesting one.
SportsRe: Usain Bolt Is Using Performance Enhancing Drugs? by naturalwaves: 1:21pm On Aug 10, 2012
Olisa74: You are right. But you and I both know he IS cheating. Modern day athletics is all about avoiding detection. Very few Nigerians are aware of the fact that our greats like Mary Onyali, Chioma Ajunwa, the Ezinwa brothers e.t.c all failed drugs tests. So should we still blame our current crop of athletes for failing to achieve, when they are fighting a losing battle, unless they too start to cheat?
Faulty thinking.So,because some persons were caught cheating means that everyone is cheating?Nigerians are one of d greatest cheats on earth and if it were possible for them(our athletes) to use a steroid without being detected,they would av done that to win a precious medal like Gold even if they won't be participating in d next olympics and will be irrelevant after that,they wouldn't mind.Wake up from ur slumber! Today,I remember vividly,ow I was joking with my mum about Nigeria's fire brigade approach to events about 4 years ago after d Olympics.Usain Bolt was interviewed and he said,he will take few months to rest and then commence preparations for d 2012 Olympics that same year cos he has to defend his medals.There was a time he cancelled an invitation to an athletics meet about 2 years ago.When he was asked Y? He said cos it will interfere with his scheduled program/timetable of preparing for 2012 Olympics(in other words,he does something everyday in preparation for d main event).This same Bolt told his gf to give him a break cos of d olympics.Have U ever seen him train before? Go get his clips and see things for urself.The guy worked hard day and night to achieve his triumph and all U can say is that;"U and I know he is using drugs"I beg ur pardon? Even if he is on steroids,the hard work is sure more than the steroid intake.Stop hating.Give honor to whom it is due.Usain Bolt is the fastest man in the whole wide world.He who the cap fits,let him wear it!
PoliticsRe: Shocker: "People Around Me Are Clueless" - Says Mallam Elrufai by naturalwaves: 12:32pm On Aug 10, 2012
This should be on the front page.Wake up mods!
FamilyRe: My Brother-in-law And My Car by naturalwaves: 12:04pm On Aug 10, 2012
Taking d keys to the office or hiding the keys looks very childish and will make u look like a coward.What if he has d bravey to ask u for d keys that he can't find it.what will u say? Will U say that U don't know or what? It will be obvious u hid it.Since the main reason of hiding d keys(u don't want him to use d car)will be known someday,I will suggest U face d issue once and for all.Tell him U cannot stand d constant damages to ur vehicle and u want him to stop using it cos he doesn't know ow to drive well.After that,start hiding or taking d keys with u(make sure he doesn't av a spare).It would av been better if u had an old small car but since u don't,he shouldn't use ur SUV cos it's not good for learning and it is d only one u've got.
Christianity EtcRe: Northern Christians To Pastor Bakare: Timothy II 2:24 by naturalwaves: 11:45am On Aug 10, 2012
Olanlere11: A Northern Christian group has responded to Pastor Tunde Bakare and referred him to the bible which says in 2 Timothy 2:24 which says a servant must not quarrel. Below is the statement from the group.

Christian Awareness Initiative of Nigeria: We Commend Pastor Tunde Bakare to 2 Timothy 2:24


Our attention has been drawn to Pastor Tunde Bakare's comments over the weekend on the person of President Goodluck Jonathan and his wife, First Lady, Dame Patience Jonathan. Sadly, his comments were replete with ad hominem attacks and insults against the first family. Christian Awareness Initiative of Nigeria (CHAIN) is glad that the first family have chosen not to respond to Pastor Bakare in kind but to be guided by the principles taught by Christ which center on tolerance in the face of provocation.

Christian Awareness Initiative of Nigeria, however wishes to make known that while we respect Pastor Tunde Bakare, we do not wannt the impression created that he s soeaking for the body of Christ in Nogeria. We are immensely grateful to Pastor Tunde Bakare that he conceded in his sermon that the "God factor" made President Jonathan President. Seeing as he admits this, we would like to commend Numbers 23:8 to Pastor Bakare which says as follows "How can I curse those whom God has not cursed? How can I denounce those whom the LORD has not denounced?".

We are also appreciative of the fact that Pastor Tunde Bakare said  any agenda to "balkanize the nation would fail". It is curious however that Pastor Tunde Bakare never thought it wise to make such a comment in all the multiple times that Boko Haram threatened the unity of Nigeria but rather chose to make this prayer in respect of the so called 'Ogoni Declaration of Self Governance' which Mr. President condemns and which the governor of Rivers state, Rotimi Amaechi,  has rightly described as treasonable. Are we to take it that Pastor Tunde Bakare is not as concerned with the activities of Boko Haram

Reading Pastor Bakare's comments where he said "Now, it is the turn of Otuoke people, and they are declaring autonomy", we feel it might be pertinent for him to study the map of Nigeria or take a crash course in elementary Nigerian geography because Otuoke is not in Ogoni Land. Otuoke is in Bayelsa state while Ogoni land is in Rivers State. Not to hold a brief for the President, we however do not want to people of Otuoke to think that we support this hasty generalization. Perhaps after soberly considering the statements he made, which libeled a whole community, Pastor Tunde Bakare may think it wise to apologize to the people of Otuoke for maligning them unjustly.

Finally, we appeal to President Jonathan to be open to constructive criticism and take time to consider and learn from constructive  criticism especially coming from a man of God, however, based on our reading of the Holy Bible, Christian Awareness Initiative of Nigeria does expect that such criticism should be truthful and calculated to help the target grow. Certainly, our reading of the scriptures does not prepare us for intemperate language from a man of God. We wish to say to Pastor Tunde Bakare what the bible says in 2 Timothy 2:24 which is that "And the Lord's servant must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful."

We note the language that Pastor Bakare chose to use against the President, but as the President is also a Christian well acquainted with the message of self control taught by the Lord Jesus Christ, we urge him to pray for Pastor Tunde Bakare that God in His infinite wisdom would continue to bless him and his and increase him in the knowledge of God.

Pastor Caleb Ma'aji
Christian Awareness Initiative of Nigeria (CHAIN)
@ OP,the letter from CHAIN was made available to u abi? Paste d link of ur news.If U av a problem with Bakare,Y don't u just go and see him instead of pasting jargon threads all over d place.Sorry,this one is not going to make d front page.U can gather ur likes(clueless fools) to talk trash on it.
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Bakare Attacks Patience Jonathan by naturalwaves: 9:35am On Aug 10, 2012
Myself2: ^^^
Kpo kpo kpo chickeeen
Kpo kpo kpo chickeeen
Lol.Ok now,Mr lion....The lion may claim to be king,he is the king,king of d jungle but when d jungle is on fire,d lion will be on d run.Can d lion be greater than d jungle? Time will tell.
SportsRe: Usain Bolt Wins Gold In Mens 200m At The Olympics by naturalwaves: 9:49pm On Aug 09, 2012
ebamma: as fast as usain bolt,as dangerous as bokoharam,as illiterate as patience jonathan
As medaless as Nigeria
As innovative as Seun
As abusive as Nairalanders
As clueless as ********
Christianity EtcRe: Bakare: Only Rich Men Should Rule by naturalwaves: 9:24pm On Aug 09, 2012
[quote author=Okija_juju]I still dey look you dey laff....[/quote]Me sef dey look u dey laff.Where U go? On a lighter mood,there is a thread going on about Akpabio saying GEJ is not impeachable.Someone is asking for d definition of 'CLUELESS' and another person is asking for d definition of 'DRASTIC STEP'.Pls,go tell them.lolz
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Bakare Attacks Patience Jonathan by naturalwaves: 9:08pm On Aug 09, 2012
[quote author=Myself2][/quote]Ur use of words,so funny.Well,U weren't much into d contest as u were a shy contender, so,Y should I throw in d towel? As U can see,a bulk of them av absconded.Don't worry,it will be naturalwaves vs myself2 someday.I can't wait!
PoliticsRe: GEJ Has Done Nothing To Warrant His Impeachment - Akpabio by naturalwaves: 8:45pm On Aug 09, 2012
dayokanu: Cluelessness is when a President tells us we have to pray for criminals to confess.

Cluelessness is when a President tells us we have to endure terror attacks

Cluelessness is when a president gallivants all over the globe while the country is burning

Cluelessness is when a presidnet tells you he cant visit Boko haram zones for over a year because there is nowhere to land.

Cluelessness is when a president comes on air to exonerate a terror group on Octber 1 2010 before the smokes of the bomb even settled

Cluelessness is when a president makes himself the spokesman of a terror group who has killed several citizens
Just in case Truckpusher needs some more definitions of cluelessness,here they are;
*Cluelessness is when a president is confused and lacks ideas.

*Cluelessness is when the most important thing to a president is the renaming of an institution when there are better things to be done.

*Cluelessness is when basic economic policies and strategies needs to be explained to a president like a baby.

*Cluelessness is when a president visits a crash site and sheds crocodile tears.

*Cluelessness is when a woman that cannot string simple sentences is forcefully made a Permanent Secreatary of a Ministry of Education and they say she is qualified.What an insult!

*Cluelessness is when a president fires a security person to cover up for his incompetence.

*Cluelessness is when the president says 'they laid their blood for d country' when innocent youths used as presiding officers during elections were murdered in cold blood due to lack of adequate security.

*Cluelessness is when the first lady of a country wants pensions for retired first ladies to secure her unsure future.

*Cluelessness is when terrible things begin to happen in a nation and nothing is done about it.

*Cluelessness is when the supposed president of the most populous black nation on earth is a P.R.O.

*Cluelessness is when a governor says a non performing president is unimpeachable.
PoliticsRe: GEJ Has Done Nothing To Warrant His Impeachment - Akpabio by naturalwaves: 6:19pm On Aug 09, 2012
dedeike: Ignorance is when you log into Nairaland to turn a blind eye to all the numerous achievements recorded by this govt in one year.

Ignorance is when you pass through Apapa-Oshodi and pretend you don't see the reconstruction work by Julius Berger on that road.

Ignorance is when you see the dedicated bridge linking river pool roundabout to Tin can and pretend it doesn't exist.

Ignorance is when you don't know that Benin-Ore-Sagamu was a hideous eyesore abandoned by previous govts in Nigeria but GEJ is now doing it.

Ignorance is when you saw the award for the construction of second Niger Bridge and Dualisation of the second phase of Kaduna-Maidugri topics on Nairaland, you exit the thread thinking no one will notice.

Ignorance is when you don't know anything about the massive reforms in our oil sector and the provisions of PIB

ignorance is when you dont know anything about ongoing power sector reforms, revival of NIPP, refurbishment of power plants, and the significant improvement in power nationwide
Boring! Can U try another one? We are still defining CLUELESSNESS and we avnt moved to IGNORANCE....Pls,don't put GEJ in trouble cos if we start on 'Ignorance',he myt end up crying.Just leave it on cluelessness for now.
Christianity EtcRe: Bakare: Only Rich Men Should Rule by naturalwaves: 5:34pm On Aug 09, 2012
BARRISTERS: @naturalwaves
Now you want to see why i have to go that far (the quote below in green);


first of all,purpose of people coming to his the church is being defeated,...he is reffered to as an overseer presiding over people who cherished why jesus died to save them,people who want to learn ways to love God, and love their neighbors to improve peaceful co-existence,which all other law hangs.
Most people that came to christ even the disciples are poor,and jesus never condemn them but encourage them,lifting their soul;

Luke 6:20
New King James Version (NKJV)

20 Then He lifted up His eyes toward His disciples, and said:

“Blessed are you poor,
For yours is the kingdom of God.

compare jesus statements above(without adding some abracadabra-the-more-you-see-the-less-you-understand philosophical viruses,that gives a totally brainwashing meaning to kill the true meaning)
compare it with your own statement below;



which hereinafter means that;his 'shoesless state'also understood to be his 'poor background' is largely responsible or actually makes him clueless.and the statement is coming from a church sermon,what a heresy?jesus promotes one thing,and bakare is promoting another,but both bakare and buhari needs naturalwaves to break their loose statements down to be understood,abi.

recognising the dangers posed by some so-called christians who posseses some knowledge,among the first christians,these ones are determined to cause divisions in the church,which is against the cooperative loving spirit championed by jesus,paul wrote;

Jude 1:3-5
New King James Version (NKJV)

3 Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints. [size=14pt]4 For certain men have crept in unnoticed, who long ago were marked out for this condemnation, ungodly men, who turn the grace of our God into lewdness and deny the only Lord God[a] and our Lord Jesus Christ.[/size]

and so,since my rebuke was on the ground that Bakare has denied the church members what christ instructs,but he rather tends to use church sermons to promote divisions and hatred like those reffered to above,

i have the priviledge to 'rebuke sharply Mr bakare because he is not sound in faith',see below;

Titus 1:10-14
New King James Version (NKJV)

10 For there are many insubordinate, both idle talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, 11 whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole households, teaching things which they ought not, [size=18pt]for the sake of dishonest gain.[/size] 12 One of them, a prophet of their own, said, “Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.” 13 This testimony is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith, 14 not giving heed to Jewish fables and commandments of men who turn from the truth.
so,it is in order to 'sharply rebuke' to save true christians from contracting the virus that bakare is promoting, so as to lead people in the right direction of christ,and not hate promoted by politics.

let bakare denounce being a church overseer,simple, and stop using that platform to promote disciples for buhari for 'dishonest gain'(titus1:11above),period.
This is ur best point so far.I must commend u for a great improvement in ur writeup.However,permit me to point out the following;
GEJ called himself 'shoeless'.So,wen PTB said 'the shoeless',he only used it as an IDENTIFIER because 'the shoeless' has become synonymous with the name Jonathan I.e when I say 'the shoeless',U will know that I am talking about Jonathan.Therefore,using it(the shoeless)doesn't necessarily mean that Jonathan's background is being referred to.U know Y? Cos d synonym of d name 'Jonathan' is 'the shoeless' at least for now.

From ur post,I see that U hate d fact that PTB used the pulpit to talk about something difft from d word of God as U would av preferred him to talk on things like 'the fruits of d spirit','Jesus' 2nd coming',Noah's ark'e.t.c e.t.c.Well,that's understandable cos it's ur personal opinion and U are very much entitled to it just as I'm entitled to mine also cos I feel otherwise.But the part I do not like is where u said,he's saying it to raise disciples for a dishonest gain.

It is obvious from ur writeup that U're anti-PTB(don't deny this,very easy to notice) and U don't care about whatever he says.U know Y? Cos U never addresed the main points he raised(This made ur analysis a one sided and a biased one).As for me,I ain't anti-Gej but based on d points raised,Gej is wrong.I like the truth,no matter how it was stated,where it was stated and who says/said it.

Suppose we forget about d fact that he(PTB) said it on d pulpit bla bla bla(which is ur main argument),what will U say about his points concerning Gej and his wife's attitude? His he saying d truth or otherwise? If U feel he lied,kindly point out the part of his speech that is not true.Thank U!
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Bakare Attacks Patience Jonathan by naturalwaves:
Myself2: Thank you BARRISTERS for calling a spade by no other names,as some id[i]i[/i]ots(like naturalwaves) would want everyone to
BARRISTERS: pastor Bakare can not claim anything concerning jonathan's installation as the president,infact he knew nothing at all,and he is a noisemaker that need to be arrested and kept under lock.

The rejected the alledged money given to him at aso rock if its true is because he had already collected a bigger bribe from the northern elites, and his mandate is 1st,to divide christianity using the guise of being activist, and 2nd,to divide the yoruba race so as to fetch votes for the north in 2015, he is a pure harlot being mixing pastor with politics, see what moslem plus politics results to;boko-haram, buhari that bakare was canvassing for cannot wait to contest democratically but has to send some people to grave through coup detat in 1983 to topple shagari, what good thing can ever come from a murderer, and a so called man of God bakare 'a thief' now want to send Nigeria back to an iron fist regime of buhari that jailed both fela and beeko kuti for 10 yrs, shame on harlot-bakare!!!

@mysel2.....lol.U av turned this into a joke.
@Barristers....I'm sorry he failed ur test of d $50,000 t fare.U wuld av been so happy if he had collected it.Unfortunately for u and jona,he didn't .That trick is an insult on Bakare's intelligence.Tell GEJ to try another one or is he CLUELESS again?
Jobs/VacanciesRe: Zenith Bank Or Diamond Bank Job? by naturalwaves: 1:26am On Aug 09, 2012
sammygoch: Pls frwends,im new hre.......i want u 2 educ8 me on hw to use Nairaland to meet my needs..God blesss
Welcome! What are ur needs?
PoliticsRe: Kogi Deeper Life Church Attack Gang Leader Arrested In Edo State by naturalwaves: 1:11am On Aug 09, 2012
@Op,kindly restructure the topic,it sounds complex.Thanks!
Christianity EtcRe: Bakare: Only Rich Men Should Rule by naturalwaves: 12:46am On Aug 09, 2012
BARRISTERS: @naturalwaves

olodo plus onijekuje-omo-awabeaya-to-da-eko-onini-to-tun-un-bere-change. so if someone bears bridgestone then he must be a tire,oponu alaini-ironu, you better get rid of the virus transmitted to you by harlot-bakare-baba-agbaya-alaini-ironu-oponu-ara-galatia.

There is no other tread to mess bakare up than this tread,
you know what,bakare is polluting christianity,its unacceptable using that platform, and let me show you a fact here;

he is portraying jonathan as uneducated and 'shoeless' right, then when he bakare was wallowing in abject poverty and was to be an almajiri born into a polygamous muslim family,abandoned with his mother, if you dont know and even if you know it goes to no issue,

but must one attain richness and education before lead Gods people,and turned around to mislead?
peter and john are overseers,but do not even need much education, and have to leave their fish business to promote gospel and not politics, read below;

Acts 4:13,14
13 When they saw the courage of Peter and John and realized that they were unschooled, ordinary men, they were astonished and they took note that these men had been with Jesus. 14[b] But since they could see the man who had been healed standing there with them, there was nothing they could say.
[/b]
but they actually performed miracles unlike fake harlot-bakare, and until he drop that 'pastor' he remain to be condemn. Agbaaya-olori kodoro, elenu-gboa-bi-taya-tractor.....he,he,he,heeee.
*smiles*....U must be really furious.Ur writup was again not devoid of it's usual characteristics I pointed out earlier on.If I may ask,ow come U know much of d bible and quotes it at d slightest opportunity yet ur behaviour doesn't potray someone that understands the bible particularly with d way u rain abuses and curses?I doubt if U understand d bible U read.Why don't U just work on urself first of all before U pick on Tunde Bakare.
SportsRe: Ajoke Odumosu Places Last In Women's 400M Hurdles by naturalwaves: 12:22am On Aug 09, 2012
Litmus: Ajoke Odumosu national record is 54.40. Looking at the times set by the finalist, I suppose that fifth place was the best she could have achieved.
Good! Best Point so far.The earlier we start applying a lil scientific and logical approach to our preparations for d olympics,the better for us...An athlete is supposed to get d past records of previous winners from Gold to the Bronze level,check their timings and compare with her performances in recent times.If she sees that it is too marginal,then she should go for more trainings and if she cannot meet up or get close to those figures (I.e the timings) on several occasions before the main competition,then she should know that she cannot win a medal because,it is rare for athletes to run a personal best and win medals at d olympics.Infact,such athletes would av been running so close to dat personal best b4 d competition proper.Imagine someone that has never ran less than 11seconds aving a dream of winning a medal in 100m.Ajoke knew right in her mind even before that race that she is not a medal hopeful because she knows d profile of d other competitors, their personal bests and their current form.We are d medal hopefuls.She just gave it a try cos it is better to try than not to try atall.She tried her best but it was obviously and expectedly not good enough.
SportsRe: Ajoke Odumosu Places Last In Women's 400M Hurdles by naturalwaves: 11:39pm On Aug 08, 2012
antitpiah: It is not the online critics who count; not the dumb as/s behind the computer who points out how Adejoke Odumosu stumbles, or how she could have run faster. The credit belongs to[b] Ajoke Odumosu[/b] who is actually in the Olympics, whose muscle is marred by dust and sweat and lactic acid build-up; who runs valiantly; who errs, who comes last again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to compete against world class athletes; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends herself representing an ungrateful nation; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, after coming last, at least came last while daring greatly, so that her place shall never be with those lazy and fat losers on nairaland who neither know victory nor defeat.
Wow! This is lovely!
PoliticsRe: Fawehinmi To Jonathan: Show Competence Or Resign In A Month by naturalwaves: 11:28pm On Aug 08, 2012
ilugunboy: Pukkah.

Anytime you silence them with facts....they take off to another thread to launch another tribal bashing all in support of GEJ. grin cheesy grin
Lol.Exactly!U just said my mind.
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Bakare Attacks Patience Jonathan by naturalwaves: 10:34pm On Aug 08, 2012
manmade: [color=#550000][/color]
PLEASE WHERE IS THAT OLODO RABATA CALLED NATURALWAVES?
Loooooolz......u so funny...Here I am.U missed me?
Christianity EtcRe: Bakare: Only Rich Men Should Rule by naturalwaves: 8:59pm On Aug 08, 2012
[quote author=mr.uwaifo]Talking too much is always a vice in any man .[/quote]If U say Bakare talks too much,what will u say about the likes of Ghandi,Gani and the rest?U can't expect everyone to just sit and watch bad things happen.U can't xpect everyone to be a slowpoke.We cannot all be CLUELESS like ur president.
Christianity EtcRe: Bakare: Only Rich Men Should Rule by naturalwaves:
BARRISTERS: The Man Tunde Bakare,

Does he really worth your attention? quotes from his site here supplied by one his followers (kingoflag)http://babatundebakare.com/site/?page_id=2

''In May 1988, at the peak of his legal career he was called into ministry and he founded The Latter Rain Assembly (End-Time Church) on April 1, 1989 and is currently the Serving Overseer of the church''.

now this is where his fraud was established (read bolded letters above)

''he was called'' into a ministry that he founded so he was not appointed by an independent team of appointed Godly men who must see that he had been 'tested first' to meet the requirements of a church overseer before he was declared fit to preside over a church.

maybe he got a call from God according to him and that automatically made him a pastor and to impose himself as a pastor, if you dont understand, any pastor or general/overseer that is not appointed to lead having gone through the standard required of christians as practiced by the early apostles of christianity,such is fake,and self impostor and must mislead,

read the requirements below and compare maybe impostor-bakare is worthy;

1 Timothy 3:1-12
New International Version (NIV)
Qualifications for Overseers and Deacons

3 Here is a trustworthy saying: Whoever aspires to be an overseer desires a noble task. 2 Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, 3 not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. [/b]4 [b]He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him, and he must do so in a manner worthy of full[a] respect. 5 ([size=14pt]If anyone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of God’s church?[/size]) 6 He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil. [size=14pt]7 He must also have a good reputation with outsiders, so that he will not fall into disgrace and into the devil’s trap[/size].

8 In the same way, deacons are to be worthy of respect, sincere, not indulging in much wine, and not pursuing dishonest gain. 9[b] They must keep hold of the deep truths of the faith with a clear conscience. 10 [size=18pt]They must first be tested; and then if there is nothing against them, let them serve as deacons.[/size]


can you see clear standards that qualifies someone above, (bolded), if someone just says that he receive a call from God,wealthy and with connections, people start following such person without knowing maybe the person meets the standard set out in the bible as a true man of God or just want to adulterate Gogs people with his selfish ambitions.

note the words in bold,'' They must first be tested;and then if there is nothing against them, let them serve as deacons''

compare bakare's activities....above, read it from your own bible, probably he may not even read such in his sermon.

pastor bakare on 14-12-2011 admitted that 'he punched his wife' who is also a pastor Mrs B. anybody can confirm that,

1 tim 3:3;
3 not given to drunkenness,[size=14pt] not violent but gentle,[/size] [b]not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.

Get me right pls, if he is an activist,or labour leader,no problem,but using the time to teach 'morals' to teach 'hate' and campaign for a buhari who killed democracy with millitary rule in 1983,ban media houses and jail activists at will is laughable, mixing politics with religion on the pulpit can be best termed as being a 'HARLOT'.
Why 'Barristers'? Are U 2 in 1 or something? Wheather Barrister or Barristers,I'll still suggest U change that username cos ur thoughts,reasoning, analysis and writeups are just too far from what is obtainable from a lawyer.U're not even arguing like one.Please,stop embarrasing that noble profession called Law.If U really want to be a Barrister,( don't tell me u are one)work hard and be one,it might take time but U can still achieve that someday if u're really determined.Meanwhile,stop disgracing d profession.
Christianity EtcRe: Bakare: Only Rich Men Should Rule by naturalwaves: 5:35pm On Aug 08, 2012
BARRISTERS: @quiverfull
just listen to your post by yourself,who is fooling who,complete virus-sharing,and this assertion has to be in a 'sermon',i dont think that you guys still have anything called morals in your dictionary;


compare this same justification above to when bakare was justifying 'punching his wife'
honestly its a shame to aquire knowledge to make things go worse,excuse me!irukan-aso-oyo;birds of same feathers!
Enough of dictionary talks.U want to start with d dictionary again and then take to ur heels wen analysis fail u like d other dude that has a lot of theories stuck on his head without being a lil bit practical.
Christianity EtcRe: Bakare: Only Rich Men Should Rule by naturalwaves: 5:30pm On Aug 08, 2012
quiverfull: @ Naturalwaves...your post is so accurate

I hate the fact that,I have to talk on this over and over again!....Like I said earlier on in d previous post on PTB,Tunde Bakare's intellectual level(being a sound lawyer of high repute) is just too high for a lot of Nigerians to decipher and this is obvious from from d funny conclusions being drawn from his statements even by d Sahara reporter. It is also very funny to see how d so called Sahara reporter structured people's thinking and thoughts with the first sentence of d report before quoting Bakare and a lot of peoole fell for it (bad journalism).

FIRST OF ALL, There's a diff. Btw saying; "WHEN A SHOELESS TAKES OVER" and "WHEN THE SHOELESS TAKES OVER".The first statement( when a shoeless takes over)is a general statement. However,the second statement which was said by PTB(when d shoeless takes over) refers to a particular person which in this case is Jonathan.The statement doesn't mean that people of low background can't make it.ok?
EXAMPLE......WHEN A FOOTBALLER STEPS ON D PITCH,HE SCORES GOALS(general statement).WHEN THE FOOTBALLER STEPS ON D PITCH,HE SCORES GOALS(This is specific and directed towards a certain footballer)and sensible people will ask Who? I.e which footballer am I referring to?.Therefore,Bakare's statement was directed specifically to Jonathan and he isn't saying people of low backgrounds cannot make it.
POINT 2....Since the subject is already known,the rest follows...WHEN SUCH MEN OF LOW ESTATE FIND THEMSELVES IN POWER,TERRIBLE THINGS BEGIN TO HAPPEN.This statement is directed also to d subject and it means when people of Jonathan's mentality(CLUELESS persons) takes over,terrible things happen.QED.
Moreover,I guess the OP pasted this to provide a misleading twist to the previous topic which was well won by the PTB supporters and I am so dissapointed at the Admin/Mods for bringing this on for d 2nd time in less than 48hrs.I guess this was done basically for selfish profit making reasons and that's not good enough!
Thanks!
PoliticsRe: Fawehinmi To Jonathan: Show Competence Or Resign In A Month by naturalwaves: 10:33am On Aug 08, 2012
werepeLeri: Abeg. Answer the question. A simple question. Who is he? All these English in answer to a simple question is simply annoying.

Who is he? I dont know him. If you know who he is simply say, or else ignore my question. Abeg.
Of what relevance is ur question to d subject matter? U av the internet at ur fingertips yet, U cannot use it.What a shame! If U don't know him,type his name on google and find out.Must U be taught and told everything?
Jokes EtcThe Boy Is Smart!!! by naturalwaves(op):
In a shop a man asked for 1/2 kg of butter.
The salesperson, a young boy, said that only 1kg packs were available in the shop, but the man insisted on buying 1/2 kg.
So the boy went inside to the manager's room and said "An I.d.I.o.t outside wants to buy 1/2
kg of butter".
To his surprise, the customer was standing behind him.
So the boy added immediately, "And this gentleman wants to buy the other half!

After the customer left, the manager said "You have saved your position by being clever enough at the
right time. Where do you come from?"
The boy said, "I come from Brazil. The place consists of only p.ro.s.t.I.t.u.t.e.s and football players!"
The manager replied coldly, "My wife is also from
Brazil".

So, the boy asked,with remarkable alacrity, "Oh yeah? What team does
she play for?
Christianity EtcRe: Bakare: Only Rich Men Should Rule by naturalwaves:
edicolove: ROTFL! "Shoeless is an adjective, when you add a 'the' to it, it becomes a noun". This guy is legendary. I have laughed and laughed and scattered the whole place. It can't get worse than this. This guy is as thick as a mahogany tree. If WAEC should catch him, they will withdraw the pass and give him full F! Bhuahahahahaha!
Ur Bhuahahahahahaha laughter sounds like something from a goat.Well,it is not a crime to laugh...U can laugh for all I care.Graham Bell was laughed at by his folks when he said,'a time will come wen u won't need to shout wen u want to call ur friend/neighbour that there would be a device u can quietly talk to'.He went ahead and invented d telephone. The likes of Newton,Einstein e.t.c were also laughed at and seriously mocked cos they saw beyond the people around them as they seem to say illogical and meaningless things(to d fools anyway).Go download and digest their biographies,they will inspire u.So,u see,laughing at someone's idea cos it is tough to comprehend is not a new thing.It has been existing even before U were born.If I may ask U,'the shoeless' is what?......or point out d noun in that phrase,"when the shoeless takes over"...Let me save u d stress....What is giving u a headache is d fact that,PTB replaced 'Jonathan' with 'the shoeless'.When Jonathan takes over,he becomes clueless...when 'the shoeless' takes over,he becomes clueless.I hope all these tasks aren't too tough for U?...Go rest and continue laughing cos okija_ojuju is still far far better than U intellectually and I prefer to take him on...As for u, just continue laughing huh?
Christianity EtcRe: Bakare: Only Rich Men Should Rule by naturalwaves: 11:23pm On Aug 07, 2012
edicolove: ROTFL! "Shoeless is an adjective, when you add a 'the' to it, it becomes a noun". This guy is legendary. I have laughed and laughed and scattered the whole place. It can't get worse than this. This guy is as thick as a mahogany tree. If WAEC should catch him, they will withdraw the pass and give him full F! Bhuahahahahaha!
Ur Bhuahahahahahah
Christianity EtcRe: Bakare: Only Rich Men Should Rule by naturalwaves:
[quote author=Okija_juju]Holy mother of God...

So your point is.. THE in front of an adjective makes it a noun? Where a noun is still 'the name of a person, animal, place or thing' and an Adjective is still used to qualify a noun abi!?

So THE which just transformed a Qualifier of nouns into a noun.. That is to say THE qualifies an Adjective into a Noun..

Fhuck me!!

I must be mad right now... Somebody get me a doctor.

Where is my certificate, I need to rip it to shreds..
[/quote]Yes,U may need to rip ur certificates into shreds lateron...U fail to realise that d most volatile subject matter is 'English language' as it changes everytime unlike mathematics where a 1+1 is still d same thing right from time.Try to reason logically with my point even if U haven't heard such dimensions before.Afterall,it is people like U that developed d dictionary and the language.Never underate anyone cos U never can tell.If I may ask U,'the shoeless' as used in that statement is a what?...Is it not a name that refers to a person or certain persons?and what did U call a noun?...A name of a person,animal,place or thing(I just hope u aren't thinking that 'name'in dat definition of a noun only means birthnames,I just hope so).Think about it! Moreover,wen u are done thinking,kindly answer the question I asked U....xplain d fact that 'the shoeless' can only be used for a group of persons(like u claim)and not a certain individual too(like I claim)?......waiting.....

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