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antitpiah: It is not the online critics who count; not the dumb as/s behind the computer who points out how Adejoke Odumosu stumbles, or how she could have run faster. The credit belongs to[b] Ajoke Odumosu[/b] who is actually in the Olympics, whose muscle is marred by dust and sweat and lactic acid build-up; who runs valiantly; who errs, who comes last again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to compete against world class athletes; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends herself representing an ungrateful nation; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, after coming last, at least came last while daring greatly, so that her place shall never be with those lazy and fat losers on nairaland who neither know victory nor defeat.

Wow! This is lovely!

ilugunboy: Pukkah.

Anytime you silence them with facts....they take off to another thread to launch another tribal bashing all in support of GEJ.

Lol.Exactly!U just said my mind.

manmade: [color=#550000][/color]
PLEASE WHERE IS THAT OLODO RABATA CALLED NATURALWAVES?

Loooooolz......u so funny...Here I am.U missed me?

[quote author=mr.uwaifo]Talking too much is always a vice in any man .[/quote]If U say Bakare talks too much,what will u say about the likes of Ghandi,Gani and the rest?U can't expect everyone to just sit and watch bad things happen.U can't xpect everyone to be a slowpoke.We cannot all be CLUELESS like ur president.

BARRISTERS: The Man Tunde Bakare,

Does he really worth your attention? quotes from his site here supplied by one his followers (kingoflag)http://babatundebakare.com/site/?page_id=2

''In May 1988, at the peak of his legal career he was called into ministry and he founded The Latter Rain Assembly (End-Time Church) on April 1, 1989 and is currently the Serving Overseer of the church''.

now this is where his fraud was established (read bolded letters above)

''he was called'' into a ministry that he founded so he was not appointed by an independent team of appointed Godly men who must see that he had been 'tested first' to meet the requirements of a church overseer before he was declared fit to preside over a church.

maybe he got a call from God according to him and that automatically made him a pastor and to impose himself as a pastor, if you dont understand, any pastor or general/overseer that is not appointed to lead having gone through the standard required of christians as practiced by the early apostles of christianity,such is fake,and self impostor and must mislead,

read the requirements below and compare maybe impostor-bakare is worthy;

1 Timothy 3:1-12
New International Version (NIV)
Qualifications for Overseers and Deacons

3 Here is a trustworthy saying: Whoever aspires to be an overseer desires a noble task. 2 Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, 3 not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. [/b]4 [b]He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him, and he must do so in a manner worthy of full[a] respect. 5 ([size=14pt]If anyone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of God’s church?[/size]) 6 He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil. [size=14pt]7 He must also have a good reputation with outsiders, so that he will not fall into disgrace and into the devil’s trap[/size].

8 In the same way, deacons are to be worthy of respect, sincere, not indulging in much wine, and not pursuing dishonest gain. 9[b] They must keep hold of the deep truths of the faith with a clear conscience. 10 [size=18pt]They must first be tested; and then if there is nothing against them, let them serve as deacons.[/size]


can you see clear standards that qualifies someone above, (bolded), if someone just says that he receive a call from God,wealthy and with connections, people start following such person without knowing maybe the person meets the standard set out in the bible as a true man of God or just want to adulterate Gogs people with his selfish ambitions.

note the words in bold,'' They must first be tested;and then if there is nothing against them, let them serve as deacons''

compare bakare's activities....above, read it from your own bible, probably he may not even read such in his sermon.

pastor bakare on 14-12-2011 admitted that 'he punched his wife' who is also a pastor Mrs B. anybody can confirm that,

1 tim 3:3;
3 not given to drunkenness,[size=14pt] not violent but gentle,[/size] [b]not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.

Get me right pls, if he is an activist,or labour leader,no problem,but using the time to teach 'morals' to teach 'hate' and campaign for a buhari who killed democracy with millitary rule in 1983,ban media houses and jail activists at will is laughable, mixing politics with religion on the pulpit can be best termed as being a 'HARLOT'.

Why 'Barristers'? Are U 2 in 1 or something? Wheather Barrister or Barristers,I'll still suggest U change that username cos ur thoughts,reasoning, analysis and writeups are just too far from what is obtainable from a lawyer.U're not even arguing like one.Please,stop embarrasing that noble profession called Law.If U really want to be a Barrister,( don't tell me u are one)work hard and be one,it might take time but U can still achieve that someday if u're really determined.Meanwhile,stop disgracing d profession.

BARRISTERS: @quiverfull
just listen to your post by yourself,who is fooling who,complete virus-sharing,and this assertion has to be in a 'sermon',i dont think that you guys still have anything called morals in your dictionary;


compare this same justification above to when bakare was justifying 'punching his wife'
honestly its a shame to aquire knowledge to make things go worse,excuse me!irukan-aso-oyo;birds of same feathers!

Enough of dictionary talks.U want to start with d dictionary again and then take to ur heels wen analysis fail u like d other dude that has a lot of theories stuck on his head without being a lil bit practical.

quiverfull: @ Naturalwaves...your post is so accurate

I hate the fact that,I have to talk on this over and over again!....Like I said earlier on in d previous post on PTB,Tunde Bakare's intellectual level(being a sound lawyer of high repute) is just too high for a lot of Nigerians to decipher and this is obvious from from d funny conclusions being drawn from his statements even by d Sahara reporter. It is also very funny to see how d so called Sahara reporter structured people's thinking and thoughts with the first sentence of d report before quoting Bakare and a lot of peoole fell for it (bad journalism).

FIRST OF ALL, There's a diff. Btw saying; "WHEN A SHOELESS TAKES OVER" and "WHEN THE SHOELESS TAKES OVER".The first statement( when a shoeless takes over)is a general statement. However,the second statement which was said by PTB(when d shoeless takes over) refers to a particular person which in this case is Jonathan.The statement doesn't mean that people of low background can't make it.ok?
EXAMPLE......WHEN A FOOTBALLER STEPS ON D PITCH,HE SCORES GOALS(general statement).WHEN THE FOOTBALLER STEPS ON D PITCH,HE SCORES GOALS(This is specific and directed towards a certain footballer)and sensible people will ask Who? I.e which footballer am I referring to?.Therefore,Bakare's statement was directed specifically to Jonathan and he isn't saying people of low backgrounds cannot make it.
POINT 2....Since the subject is already known,the rest follows...WHEN SUCH MEN OF LOW ESTATE FIND THEMSELVES IN POWER,TERRIBLE THINGS BEGIN TO HAPPEN.This statement is directed also to d subject and it means when people of Jonathan's mentality(CLUELESS persons) takes over,terrible things happen.QED.
Moreover,I guess the OP pasted this to provide a misleading twist to the previous topic which was well won by the PTB supporters and I am so dissapointed at the Admin/Mods for bringing this on for d 2nd time in less than 48hrs.I guess this was done basically for selfish profit making reasons and that's not good enough!

Thanks!

werepeLeri: Abeg. Answer the question. A simple question. Who is he? All these English in answer to a simple question is simply annoying.

Who is he? I dont know him. If you know who he is simply say, or else ignore my question. Abeg.

Of what relevance is ur question to d subject matter? U av the internet at ur fingertips yet, U cannot use it.What a shame! If U don't know him,type his name on google and find out.Must U be taught and told everything?

In a shop a man asked for 1/2 kg of butter.
The salesperson, a young boy, said that only 1kg packs were available in the shop, but the man insisted on buying 1/2 kg.
So the boy went inside to the manager's room and said "An I.d.I.o.t outside wants to buy 1/2
kg of butter".
To his surprise, the customer was standing behind him.
So the boy added immediately, "And this gentleman wants to buy the other half!

After the customer left, the manager said "You have saved your position by being clever enough at the
right time. Where do you come from?"
The boy said, "I come from Brazil. The place consists of only p.ro.s.t.I.t.u.t.e.s and football players!"
The manager replied coldly, "My wife is also from
Brazil".

So, the boy asked,with remarkable alacrity, "Oh yeah? What team does
she play for?

edicolove: ROTFL! "Shoeless is an adjective, when you add a 'the' to it, it becomes a noun". This guy is legendary. I have laughed and laughed and scattered the whole place. It can't get worse than this. This guy is as thick as a mahogany tree. If WAEC should catch him, they will withdraw the pass and give him full F! Bhuahahahahaha!

Ur Bhuahahahahahaha laughter sounds like something from a goat.Well,it is not a crime to laugh...U can laugh for all I care.Graham Bell was laughed at by his folks when he said,'a time will come wen u won't need to shout wen u want to call ur friend/neighbour that there would be a device u can quietly talk to'.He went ahead and invented d telephone. The likes of Newton,Einstein e.t.c were also laughed at and seriously mocked cos they saw beyond the people around them as they seem to say illogical and meaningless things(to d fools anyway).Go download and digest their biographies,they will inspire u.So,u see,laughing at someone's idea cos it is tough to comprehend is not a new thing.It has been existing even before U were born.If I may ask U,'the shoeless' is what?......or point out d noun in that phrase,"when the shoeless takes over"...Let me save u d stress....What is giving u a headache is d fact that,PTB replaced 'Jonathan' with 'the shoeless'.When Jonathan takes over,he becomes clueless...when 'the shoeless' takes over,he becomes clueless.I hope all these tasks aren't too tough for U?...Go rest and continue laughing cos okija_ojuju is still far far better than U intellectually and I prefer to take him on...As for u, just continue laughing huh?

edicolove: ROTFL! "Shoeless is an adjective, when you add a 'the' to it, it becomes a noun". This guy is legendary. I have laughed and laughed and scattered the whole place. It can't get worse than this. This guy is as thick as a mahogany tree. If WAEC should catch him, they will withdraw the pass and give him full F! Bhuahahahahaha!

Ur Bhuahahahahahah

[quote author=Okija_juju]Holy mother of God...

So your point is.. THE in front of an adjective makes it a noun? Where a noun is still 'the name of a person, animal, place or thing' and an Adjective is still used to qualify a noun abi!?

So THE which just transformed a Qualifier of nouns into a noun.. That is to say THE qualifies an Adjective into a Noun..

Fhuck me!!

I must be mad right now... Somebody get me a doctor.

Where is my certificate, I need to rip it to shreds.. [/quote]Yes,U may need to rip ur certificates into shreds lateron...U fail to realise that d most volatile subject matter is 'English language' as it changes everytime unlike mathematics where a 1+1 is still d same thing right from time.Try to reason logically with my point even if U haven't heard such dimensions before.Afterall,it is people like U that developed d dictionary and the language.Never underate anyone cos U never can tell.If I may ask U,'the shoeless' as used in that statement is a what?...Is it not a name that refers to a person or certain persons?and what did U call a noun?...A name of a person,animal,place or thing(I just hope u aren't thinking that 'name'in dat definition of a noun only means birthnames,I just hope so).Think about it! Moreover,wen u are done thinking,kindly answer the question I asked U....xplain d fact that 'the shoeless' can only be used for a group of persons(like u claim)and not a certain individual too(like I claim)?......waiting.....

[quote author=Okija_juju]Keep shooting yourself ... Im enjoying this...

Now how does shoeless qualify as a NOUN?!

Oya.. [/quote]Honestly,U are so intelligent and I'm loving this. Let's go a lil bit into some advance studies.U see,when the word 'THE' is put in front of an adjective,it can become a noun.'Shoeless' is an adjective,when u add 'the',it becomes a noun...U don't av to wait for everything to be said outrightly.U are correct,'shoeless' is not a noun but a 'The' has been put in front of it and it has become a noun.The only thing that can justify ur point,is to prove to me that 'The shoeless' can only be used as a plural noun...referring to a lot of people only(like u guys claim) and cannot be used as a singular noun referring to just one person(like I claim).Anything aside this,won't score u a point.Trust me!


NB: I av answered the 'estate' part of ur question in dat same post.

[quote author=Okija_juju]This is my final response to you...

You are like a drowning man grasping for straws.. I really could give a fhuck less about Tunde Bakare. He is a Northerner and a descendant of Cattlefuckers...

This thread is not about the way I feel about him but about understanding his comment and the implication thereof.

Should you feel you are ready to debate this subject intellectually devoid of juvenile shenanigans, I will be more than happy to indulge you..





Alusi Okija does not need to edit anything to prove anything.. The onus is now on you to prove that I edited the dictionary definition of estate to suit my purpose..

Secondly, I couldnt make sense of your post as the entire definitions of Estate still referred to ones financial status and never once suggested moral prowess of the lack thereof.

Please take some time to go back and may be either re-read the definitions of 'ESTATE' to see the meaning or re-structure your response so as to properly convey the message you are trying to pass across as the message is lost on me..




Like are you fhucking kidding me?!

Like are you even serious right now?!

Like how old are you?!

Whats your comprehension level?!!

I just spelt out the dictionary meanings and uses of the word "THE" and even gave you examples and you still wrote that you are right?!

Okay, please tell me which other use of THE supports whatever right you are laying claim to?!!

Nna na wah o!!

Like Nairaland is filled with surprising characters..[/quote]Yeah,u brought out a dictionary and didn't read it well.Infact,d very first definition is in perfect symolacrum with my points.Just in case ur memory has failed u,here is the first definition from d dictionary u pasted ;
a. Used before singular or plural nouns and noun phrases that denote particular, specified persons or things: the baby; the dress I wore.
Remember I told U he is being specific by referring to GEJ as 'the shoeless'.Read well and see the part that says 'specified persons'.Incase U don't still understand,just look at d example given in ur dictionary.....'The baby'.




As for where u cheated by editing d definition of ESTATE,here is it;
5. The situation or circumstances of one's life: A child's estate gives way to the adult's estate.
U added 'a child's estate leads to adult estate to d definition' If U are sure u didn't,paste a link to d dictionary u used.I hope U won't tell me it's a hard copy.I just hope so.
Now,the definition says 'd situation or circumstances of one's life'.My dear,u see,it is not only money that determines d situation of one's life ok? One can be poor in many things and that particular definition therefore supports Skii's point of view.When U saw that,U quickly added that 'a child's estate leads to adult estate' being a smart guy.Well,that's not gonna work for me.Give me d link to d dictionary now if U are sure U didn't edit that.......waiting.......

Where are U okija_juju...U are in a good mood for a debate indeed.So funny to see ow u ran away.Well,I'm waiting for U 'mr dictionary'

REALKINGSON: with all due respect sir,i think you're DULL'ER'.no offense meant

With all due respect sir,I think U are d 'DULLEST'.No offence meant.

kingoflag: Ok, sooooooo. . . . . Let me get this straight, Tunde Bakare is not an activist because he refused to declare war on Fashola? But, Tell me, what was he when he put his neck on the line to ensure the daft mo*ron currently in charge of Nigeria became President instead of Turai?

Most activist have a price you say? You might be right considering he rejected the $50,000 "transport" money GEJ gave him a few months ago. When was the last time you seen $1,000 and if dem give you $50,000 you no go sell your mama into slavery, you bloody hypocrite?

Y'all Nigerians sicken the hell outta me!

Very funny.Nice points U got there.Keep it up! Do u know that d supposed t-fare of $50,000 was a set-up? Thank God he didn't collect it.This guy(Tunde Bakare) is one of the most intelligent men in Nigeria.From Falana to Gani to Fashola to Tunde.....I'm beginning to av enormous respect for lawyers.

[quote author=Okija_juju]Dude!! Like Rumpelstiltskin, you tried to spurn gold out of straws and failed and did so woefully I must add.

When he made the statement;

“When the shoeless takes over, he does clueless things. When such men of low estate find themselves in power, terrible things begin to happen.” He added, “It is the timidity of the inferior that prods them to cover up. Deep rivers flow in majestic silence.”

He was refering to wealth not that essay you wrote there.. Proof is in the statement.. Empahsis on the word "Estate".. Below is the Dictionary definition of Estate;

es·tate
n.
1. A landed property, usually of considerable size.
2. The whole of one's possessions, especially all the property and debts left by one at death.
3. Law The nature and extent of an owner's rights with respect to land or other property.
4. Chiefly British A housing development.
5. The situation or circumstances of one's life: A child's estate gives way to the adult's estate.
6. Social position or rank, especially of high order.
7. A major social class, such as the clergy, the nobility, or the commons, formerly possessing distinct political rights.
8. Archaic Display of wealth or power; pomp.


Looking through that, nobody can doubt that he was refering to Jonathans poor background and thus implying that only the wealthy can/should rule Nigeria..

I wonder why you could even miss it in the first place. He started the string of comments with "When the Shoeless". Emphasis on "Shoeless". Should I go ahead and find you the dictionary meaning of Shoeless as well?! The people who are shoeless are the materially poor people, not the intellectually poor. Infact, there is no way to spin that staement to mean intellectually poor. He even went ahead to use the adjective "Inferior" to qualify the "shoeless".

My friend, you sound like an intellectual, however, you have failed woefully in your quest to make this statement of Mr. Bakare into something that it isnt..

I am always avaliable to debate this further should this fail to convince you..



Alusi Okija[color=990000]^TM[/color] _{The gods are wise..}[/quote]I was going through ur point when I saw that U edited the 5th definition of d word 'ESTATE' cos u saw that,that particular definition suits SKII's point of argument.SMH.That's cheating,u cheated and I am dissapointed.
Y did U add ur own words after d main definition.Now,it is obvious there are many definitions of d word 'Estate'.Ow can U prove that he was not referring to d 5th or 8th.Ow can u show that he is referring to d same definition on ur mind from d list of several definitions? NO WAY! This PTB must be really intelligent.Infact,my love for him just soared!

[quote author=Okija_juju]


Let me start by saying WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If I were to give a title to your post, I will call it "MORE BULLSHIT, FROM SHAKESPEAR NATURALWAVES.

To your credit, you did a much better job than Skii... Honestly, you impressed me, but again, You like Skii are also dead arse wrong.

I am in a Fhucking good mood today.. Okay.. let me take you back to school.. Funny enough, the one topic from my secondary school days I seem to remember vividly is the English Language Topic on 'THE' (The definite article)... lol

Todays Lesson.. ENGLISH LANGUAGE FOR DUMMIES 101.

Lets focus on the word "THE". Here is a brief breakdown of the word 'THE' and its uses in the English Language;

THE 1 ( before a vowel; before a consonant)
def.art.
1.

a. Used before singular or plural nouns and noun phrases that denote particular, specified persons or things: the baby; the dress I wore.

b. Used before a noun, and generally stressed, to emphasize one of a group or type as the most outstanding or prominent: considered Lake Shore Drive to be the neighborhood to live in these days.

c. Used to indicate uniqueness: the Prince of Wales; the moon.

d. Used before nouns that designate natural phenomena or points of the compass: the weather; a wind from the south.

e. Used as the equivalent of a possessive adjective before names of some parts of the body: grab him by the neck; an infection of the hand.

f. Used before a noun specifying a field of endeavor: the law; the film industry; the stage.

g. Used before a proper name, as of a monument or ship: the Alamo; the Titanic.

h. Used before the plural form of a numeral denoting a specific decade of a century or of a life span: rural life in the Thirties.


2.


Used before a singular noun indicating that the noun is generic: The wolf is an endangered species.


3.

a. [size=14pt]Used before an adjective extending it to signify a class and giving it the function of a noun:[/size] the rich; the dead; the homeless.

b. Used before an absolute adjective: the best we can offer.

4. Used before a present participle, signifying the action in the abstract: the weaving of rugs.

5. Used before a noun with the force of per: cherries at $1.50 the box.


I want to draw your attention to USE OF 'THE' number 3, subsection A..

There, THE is used before an Adjective extending it to signify a class... Thats the exact same way Mr. Bakare used it.. "The Shoeless" signified a class of people..

There is no point addressing the remaining part of your comment as they are based on the foundation of this part which I just blew to smitherines...



Okay, NEXT PERSON....





Alusi Okija[color=990000]^TM[/color] _{Schooling Ignorant Niggars since 1521}[/quote]Wow, I love this! Thanks for opening a dictionary.lolz.By the dictionary definitions, I am correct and U are also correct in a way.So,tell me,ow can U say which of the definitions of d word 'THE' he was referring to?or are U in his brains?
The point is, U cannot outrightly say that Tunde Bakare was referring to all persons.The only way U could av caught him in a tight corner is if he had used the word 'A' instead of 'THE'which was well stated in my analysis.Making a conclusion from several possible options/answers is a fallacy!

Olanlere11: Pastor Tunde Bakare in his most recent teaching attributed Nigeria's problems to the fact that we have a poor man in power. In a series of declamations, Mr. Bakare asserted, “When the shoeless takes over, he does clueless things. When such men of low estate find themselves in power, terrible things begin to happen.” He added, “It is the timidity of the inferior that prods them to cover up. Deep rivers flow in silence.
If Bakare's teaching is anything to go by, what then is the fate of an average Nigerian, who has taken up education to change his social status? Is leadership an exclusive reserve of the rich? Is the prevailing insecurity orchestrated by the rich to humiliate the poor? Is it fair that a man of God who is suppose to preach equality now makes distinction between the rich and poor? Source: http://saharareporters.com/news-page/pastor-bakare-lampoons-mrs-patience-jonathan

I hate the fact that,I have to talk on this over and over again!....Like I said earlier on in d previous post on PTB,Tunde Bakare's intellectual level(being a sound lawyer of high repute) is just too high for a lot of Nigerians to decipher and this is obvious from from d funny conclusions being drawn from his statements even by d Sahara reporter. It is also very funny to see how d so called Sahara reporter structured people's thinking and thoughts with the first sentence of d report before quoting Bakare and a lot of peoole fell for it (bad journalism).

FIRST OF ALL, There's a diff. Btw saying; "WHEN A SHOELESS TAKES OVER" and "WHEN THE SHOELESS TAKES OVER".The first statement( when a shoeless takes over)is a general statement. However,the second statement which was said by PTB(when d shoeless takes over) refers to a particular person which in this case is Jonathan.The statement doesn't mean that people of low background can't make it.ok?
EXAMPLE......WHEN A FOOTBALLER STEPS ON D PITCH,HE SCORES GOALS(general statement).WHEN THE FOOTBALLER STEPS ON D PITCH,HE SCORES GOALS(This is specific and directed towards a certain footballer)and sensible people will ask Who? I.e which footballer am I referring to?.Therefore,Bakare's statement was directed specifically to Jonathan and he isn't saying people of low backgrounds cannot make it.
POINT 2....Since the subject is already known,the rest follows...WHEN SUCH MEN OF LOW ESTATE FIND THEMSELVES IN POWER,TERRIBLE THINGS BEGIN TO HAPPEN.This statement is directed also to d subject and it means when people of Jonathan's mentality(CLUELESS persons) takes over,terrible things happen.QED.
Moreover,I guess the OP pasted this to provide a misleading twist to the previous topic which was well won by the PTB supporters and I am so dissapointed at the Admin/Mods for bringing this on for d 2nd time in less than 48hrs.I guess this was done basically for selfish profit making reasons and that's not good enough!

[quote author=sweet_gala]Some of us fail to remember that one of the greatest civil rights activists (M.L.k) ever was a Reverend a.k.a man of God they are commonly known in Nigeria.
A gentle man stated on pg1 and I'm glad he received the support of 113 people , the job of a shepherd is to care for his flock, A famous shepherd in the bible rescued his sheep from the jaws of lion with grace and mercy from God. Poor Nigerians are being devoured daily because of political failure courtesy of leaders.

Any shepherd who seats and dines with such evil men and ignores the safety and well-being of his flock but rather preaches prosperity forgetting prosperity of the soul is paramount, is not doing God's work.[/quote]Well said!

banki: I read through the message again and i know that this is a government that majors on minors and minors on majors, I am still waiting for the presidents reaction to ogoni people declaring sovereignty,instead of him to nip it in the bud now he would wait when problems start to come up he would blame it on his political advisories then you would start to hear how ogoni people dont like otueke people,thats why he cant perform! as for all of you that come and spew trash, I believe YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEMS IN NIGERIA. when you see the truth and you dont speak and you play on ethnic and religious sentiments you further stop this nation from growing.Have you noticed that anytime you criticize jonathan or his policies his supporters first hit you with ethnic, then religious then when they cant get you they try to mess your name up?

Exactly!

luluosas: All you haters of Pastor Bakare are the number one enemy of GEJ and Nigeria.
There's an adage that says a man's friend is the one that can tell him his teeths are smelling. All of you supporting Jonathan, even when he makes the dumbest of all mistakes are showing your true colours. You hate him for hiding the truth from him and you want him to die prematurely. May God forgive you all.

On point! The funny thing with these people is that,even if Bakare praises Jonathan and tells them to be patient with his government,they will call him(Bakare) a Psycophant and say that he is trying to get closer cos he was a loser and he wants to team up with GEJ.There is nothing one can say or do that will satisfy them.At least if one cannot speak up,one should be happy that someone is doing that on one's behalf.

edicolove: Seriously dude, what did you score in your WAEC English language or JSS III english, whichever applies. Because what you posted up there is one of the most ridiculous English explanation I have ever seen. And to imagine that you termed it "higher" level of understanding is the pinacle of absurdity. This is what we call ignorance gone on rampage! I don't even know where to start to reply you from. It feels a little bit demeaning having a conversation with you, seriously. Please get a copy of brighter grammer and learn some comprehension! Duh!

Yeah,the explanation must be ridiculous to U cos U cannot comprehend it.Y don't U just provide ur own explanation rather than asking me what I got in my JSSCE? With all sense of humility,I got an 'A' in English.Infact,I scored 'A' parallel in all d 11 papers and about 10 of us had such result in Lagos state at that time.I have BRIGHTER GRAMMAR 1,2,3.I think U need it more.I've answered ur question, so,let's go back to d topic.Can U pls,provide ur own explanation.If it makes a better sense,trust me to agree cos we all learn everyday.Meanwhile,I'm waiting.

Skii: So what is wrong in what he has said now ehn?

Oya you give us an explanation that is not ridiculous

You just want to show that you can speak english and you sabi grammar?

mschewww..."Because what you posted up there is one of the most ridiculous English explanation I have ever seen"...gbagaun master
and it is grammar not grammer....

Lol.I'm waiting for him to provide his own explanation.I guess he's still thinking.Tnx!

Myself2: @naturalwaves
Your father is a mannerless animal pig
Your mother is a mannered dog
And you are the unfortunate mannerless product of the sexual encounter between the two animals above while yo momma was on heat

Biaaaatch

U need to see a pychiatrist! Go check that ur comment again after seeing d doc.I bet,U'll say a thankyou to me for identifying some early symptoms of insanity in U.

tunnytox: Why the abuse? if you have a contrary view to him that does not mean you should abuse him.

Contrary view?,he has no contrary view.He is just sad cos I shed light on that part and ended d argument about PTB disregarding people of humble beginnings.His abuse was borne out of anger and there is a term they call such behaviour in psychology so I understand his problem.

Elueme: You are a bigger fool than Bakare. However, two of you are imbecilic

Oh,I'm a fool for breaking down a bogus problem for ur brain.U must be an ingrate.My friend,address d issue at hand and stop attacking personalities.Go sleep if U've got nothing reasonable to say.U are calling someone a fool cos u lost a debate,I wonder what U would have done if U had lost an election.Assasinate ur opponent?No wonder u think all what ptb is saying is cos of d loss of d election.U can't xpect everyone to be as wicked,callous and desperate as u.

edicolove: Please what part of what he said is the truth?

That the poor cannot rise to greatness? That the north and south west should continue to harvest ND because they invested their money there pre colonial days? That Nigeria was formed by God and nations cannot split because they are formed by God? That he realised that GEJ was put there by God but still contested against him? I am trying to find real truth here, seriously. To find any facts in his message is even harder. Please show me the truth there, abeg.

The major problem u guys av is 'a communication gap' and it is a simple one.U see,Bakare's intellect is too high for a lot of people to decipher and that is what is causing d gap but I'll try my lil best to help u a bit. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SAYING; WHEN THE SHOELESS TAKES OVER and WHEN A SHOELESS TAKES OVER.Pastor T's statement is referring to a person(Jonathan).He is not saying that people from humble backgrounds cannot make it.U get d point?......Example; If I say,wen a footballer steps on d field,he scores goals.This is a general statement and applies to all footballers but If I say,when the footballer steps on d field,he scores goals means that I am referring to a particular footballer and sensible people around will ask me who?So u see,Bakare's statement is not a general one and it is not saying that people from humble background cannot make it,it was meant for Jonathan.If atall U want to then go on to debate anything,it should be about maybe or not his statement is true.Is Jonathan really clueless? If U ask me,I will say A VERY BIG YES,JONATHAN WAS SHOELESS AND HE IS CLUELESS.

It is so funny to see ow people's thinking can be easily structured.People lack simple analytical abilities to assess situations,they just believe whatever they see or read.SMH.Even if Wizkid wanted to talk to Dbanj,he couldn't av talked in dat manner not even Davido can say that as proud as pple claim he is.Moreover,Y will he start with 'baby'.There is no iota of truth in d post.I need no proof!

tunnytox: Do you understand the meaning of the words hate and violent or you just want to make mockery of yourself by using these words?
Jonathan,his wife and their PDP conspirators are running Nigeria like their personal estate for their own benefits alone, PTB preached aginst this and you called it a message of hate and violence? since when did the torturer prevents the tortured from crying?

LOL.....I think u should get used to d fact that people use words anyhow.They just type whatever comes to their mind without weighing and that's part of d Nigerian problem.

[quote author=O.D.B.]State Government Perm. Sec or Senator.

When Tinibu stole a seat from Lagosians and gave it to his wife where were all of you anti-patience?

Is Patience the only first Lady we've had? When Turai was busy running this country through bribes and avarices where were you haters?

How about Mrs. Abach and Mrs. Babangida? Where they not more larger than life when their husbands were in office?

Just say you hate the average Ijaw or south-south individual.[/quote]A senatorial seat is basically based on politics and could be by nomination,appointment etc but d post of a permanent secretary is not such.It is usually occupied by intellectually sound persons that av risen to the heights of their careers and served diligently in civil service.In a situation where there are lots of qualified persons,one of them may then be appointed or chosen.Ur madam Patience has none of these qualities and qualification and I am sure there are many more qualified persons.It is an abuse of power.D painful thing is that,they should av used other areas to abuse power and not making her a perm sect.Which of d perm sect in d whole of Naija can Madam Patience stand?I bet,NONE.This outrightly shows her greed and gluttony for power like d pastor said cos she just wanna grasp everything.It is only in this part of the world that people get what they never worked for.