₦airaland Forum

eGuerrilla:
And this is why you are never far the epic center of any of the ethnicly fueled conflagrations raging at any given hour on Nairaland?
All one huge joke, or "a game" - if I am to borrow a turn of phrase from MOG Fireman?

Look here my friend, either the op is a cyber scammer, or you and him are cyber scammers. Good luck in finding those who will fall for your cheap faceless scam. I will only fall for it when he kills himself and you show me the photo, convincingly. Bye bye.

~Bluetooth:
Ibos would be landlocked if SS shut their access to the sea.too bad for them.

What has being landlocked got to do with success?
Nigeria of today is not landlocked, how successful has it been?
The North you claim will survive will be even more landlocked than the SE

And finally, there are many coastal Igbos communities in Rivers state (Opobo for eg) who am 100% sure will prefer an Igbo country with the larger Igbo society.

prodam:
Bros, u and I know that it is natural to have a little of many resources in a region, so the fact that borno has oil and gas does not mean they are oil-producing, Majorly, the eastern part of Nigeria do not have exceptional resources like oyo, kaduna and rivers,
okay, igbos have the land and manpower, okay?

Can you please mention the mineral resources that others have that the SE does not have? Why are you beating about the bush?

eGuerrilla:
I have no interests in playing ding dong right now, as what I said is pretty clear.
This specific thread is, at best, incidental to known/identifiable faces who have suffered death in the hands of BH, the earthquake in Mexico, French troops killed in Afghanistan or scores of other issues you could just as well bring into sharp focus.

The point is; right here, right now, you, @Nchara (a faceless pseudonym) might be able to prevent the needless loss of life, so stop conflating issues.

I'd rather worry about saving the lives of those who have no control over those planning to kill them than worry over those who plan/joke to take their own lives. Anyone capable of killing themselves will not bathe an eye lid killing others. And BTW, the facelessness of everyone here including yourself is the reason why NL and everything said and done here is a huge joke. Only a fo/ol will take NL seriously.

Arosa:
The replacement better not be a Northerner. or else there will also be a wild wild south south. as in bye bye to all oil wells and facilities. Just a thought.  

Big B1:
No disrespect, but this question sounds like is from an extremely hopeless  and depressed entity.

Nigeria is a wonderful country full of bright creative people, if we are sensible enough to set aside personal feelings, personal agenda and sentiments, I'm confident that we will come up with a sincere, focused, and competent replacement.
And believe it or not, it all depends on us, Nigerians.

Can you please answer the question? If GEJ steps down who is going to replace him?

ezeagu:
I don't understand the question (as in the point), but I do not believe there are more than 1 million culturally Hausa/Fulani people in south eastern Nigeria. If south eastern Nigeria is dangerous for them, then it's best for them to move.

I mean that it is not only Igbos that move back to former places after a problem. Otherwise, you wont see northerners and southwesterners in Igboland.

ezeagu:
Typical unthinking, mindless, robotic, hypocritical, Nigerian zombie. How many of those marriages are you going to split apart after your plan to send Igbo packing from your town? let's dig up a quote.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=849414.msg10001864#msg10001864

You really have time to respond to every gibberish. Yoruba have no right to use the word bigotry on anyone else. They live, breath, sleep and eat it.

eGuerrilla:
^^^
I suppose ours is a truly harsh society, where any cry for help is ultimately treated with disdain.
Sometimes I wonder about the alternative Nigeria we expend so much energy clamouring for, when large sections of the population evidently lack even the most elementary understanding of civic duty or any sense of social responsibility.

This is an anonymous-based site and the pseudonym[b] scopusng[/b] makes no sense to anyone except those who know the real bearer personally. How do you believe what is anonymous? He could be playing pranks for all I care.

BTW, what have you yourself done for the known/identifiable faces who have suffered death in the hands of BH?

Can some of the ''3 million'' Igbos in Kano not begin to leave

ezeagu:
This has happend several times so its falling one deaf ears, there will always be Igbo people moving to Northern Nigeria. Even after if this is done, they will move back.

So will the northerners also move back. Otherwise how come there are millions of northerners in the East after the war?
In troubled times I agree that Igbos should leave the trouble areas and the people from the enemy side should also leave Igboland. But importantly they should minimize their investments in other parts.

eGuerrilla:
Like you I have also sent a SMS to another phone # found online to no avail.
Information available in the public domain puts this NLer's age at 35, but as I have no other confirmation of his identity I have purposely held back on revealing any further details.

Recall, he cited the examples set by a Tunisian and five Moroccans.
We have got to err on the side of caution and assume the intent here is more of the same.

I will believe him after he does it. Why should I believe him before then?

prodam:
i mean the core east, facts and figure could easily be checked, history has said it all,
the south-south has been the region covering up for the east due to the short distance between them,
after splitting, everyone goes his own way and i doubt if the south-south would be ready to go with the east after the lesson learnt in the early post-independence day

What mineral resources don't they have in the core east that others have. Can you mention them? Thank you.

Igbos don't hate Yorubas, but many Yorubas hate/resent/dislike/loath (take your pick) Igbos. And such hate-filled ones have shown it in so many ways

Please get for me one single hateful comment made in real life from a notable Igbo about the Yoruba

Here I will give you examples of hateful comments made by notable Yorubas about the Igbo.

Then you decide who hates who

1. ''Igbos should leave politics and face trading, what they know how best to do''----------  Adesanya's daughter when she was a minister sometime between 1999 and 2007
2. ''Igbos will be wiped out''----------  A notable Yoruba lawyer working for ACN recently (2011) made this comment. He has apologized however. This was here on nairaland. Can anyone remember?
3. ''I dealt with your ragtag Biafra army, I will deal wit you again''---------Oluwole Rotimi former ambassador to US to Ojo Maduekwe (2009), then minister of foreign affairs.
4. ''I will kill anything walking in Igbo land''-------------Adekunle during the Biafra war
5. ''Starvation is a weapon of war and we used it on the Igbos''-------------Awolowo
6. ''The Igbos wanted your oil''--------- Obasanjo  a few years back in Bayelsa when he went to either campaign or as a sitting president. Now we know how many Igbos licking the oil, compared to Hausa and Yoruba.

Onlytruth:
@Rhino.5dm

You are indeed a very dense foool. Do you think anyone knows where this would end, or what it would ultimately lead to?
You didn't hear what the Ohanaeze man said properly. If I paraphrase him, he said they would love to stand and fight but their immediate concerns now are the women and children which need urgent evacuation from the North (Kano).
This jungle is only beginning. Don't gloat yet.

Coward hiding in Port Harcourt.

He lives in PH (non-Yoruba land) and makes all these noise about Nigerians living in other places. At the NVS he goes by the name Mikky Jaga.

Did you mean to say you will set Scopusng ablaze and mutate into a new NL id?

Big B1

If he steps down who replaces him?

mikeansy:
Exactly, there is nothing English about his diction or choice of words. he is a bloody Nigerian!

@UKbobo
And please don't start using swear words because you have been found out. "That's not what we are on about?" - if u get my drip!

His English bombs gave him away as a Nigerian Yoruba in Peckham.

Negro_Ntns:
. . . . nchara, the more reason your eze up there need to zip it! There is time to be brave and theres time to be wise and reclusive. This time calls for rescue and evacuation out. . . after he deliver mama ngozi and her pikin reach village, then he fit go back up there and open hin yansh for harmattan air and address boko.

For once, you have made sense. I hope making sense is your new yr resolution.
BTW why are Yorubas not evacuating from the North?

@ topic, splitting Nigeria and its aftermath is not a short run affair. Thus anyone looking at short run inconveniences as a reason not to split is a non starter.

prodam:
Have you ever thought of the intricacies involved in splitting in a nation.
the last protest over subsidy removal has really attracted various comment from Nigerians all over the world most of which suggested a permanent solution of the recurrent problems in our dear Nation.
furthermore, the recent attacks being stimulated by ethnicity and religion is an indications of poor cultural integration and lack of religious harmony, suggest that splitting might be the best option

However, before a decision is taken, it is proper to make some predictions and economic indications especially in a sensitive and volatile economy of ours.
if splitting should come, which region/part of Nigeria would suffer
which region/part would find it as a blessing
the North or the South,
your responses should not be based on sentiments but bringing reasons that takes into consideration the history of Nigeria, the geo-political situation, the political saga, the available resources and other indicators,

On my own part, this is hard to predict because from my own perspective I believe the north with their rich agricultural produce are united and can move forward with that, the south(especially we the Yoruba) lacks love and unity but have got rich resources(human and mineral), the east has nothing tangible in terms of mineral resources but their initiative and creativity coupled with their fearlessness can get them developed like U.S.A

What mineral resources do you mean Igbos do not have?

The Channels TV dead reporter does not appear to be an Igbo. He looks/sounds Benue ish or Nassarawa ish!!

The internet will contribute to losing and winning the war in terms of international war propaganda, and boy, we are mastering the cyber propaganda.

ShangoThor:
4) So let's talk about Military strategies, it's simple really. The Western Militia (Yorubas) hold the Western flank, the Eastern Militia (Ndigbo) hold the Eastern Flank, The Tivs, Beroms etc hold the Middle Belt (Centre ground) which serves as a buffer to the other Militias, and Further South (Ijaws, Itshekiri, Ilajes etc) hold the rear flank (part Coast), just in case or as a back up.

Well said and that is the crux of the matter. Thank you.

As of today, America and Europe will not support Islamic northern Nigeria because they now know what it is to support terrorists: there will always be a backlash
They do not have to support Igbo (or the south either)
As long as they remain neutral and sell arms to any groups with the highest cash, that will be okay
Once the Arab countries support Islamic northern Nigeria, then America and the rest of the Christian world would join the fray
Baring any interference, in a Hausa/Fulani versus Igbo war, Igbos will defeat them. The entire Nigeria could not defeat the Igbo in 3 years, let alone Hausa/Fulani
Excluding foreign interference and the gang up against us, the outcome of the war would have been different
Prof Falola of the University Texas revealed recently that if the war was fought today, the strength of Igbos in the US alone would have allowed  IGBOS win the war.

Take home message:

1. The Berom, Tivs, Igbirra, Idoma, Jukun etc (all having serious problems with the Islamic north [Hausa/Fulani precisely]) will not fight with their enemies against the south and the south will not fight them in return

2. The Ijaw, Ibibio Edo, Itshekiri Urhobo (and[b] HOPEFULLY [/b]the Yoruba) etc will not join the North against the Igbo. Everyone has wizened up now. So who does the Hausa/Fulani want to fight?

bashr8:
Am more worried about the Christians in the north and middle belt. As for the north fighting the igbos that will be ridiculous even terrorism will be difficult unless they use Yoruba Muslims cus hausas can easily be identified in igboland. It may take them the whole Muslim nations support to come close to that but when it comes to that stage we also will get allies bu I doubt if it will. We repelled them before and we will do it again

Actually, the war may turn out to be Muslim north against the rest of Christian Nigeria. Its gonna be reverse Jihad.

paragonpro:
Nchara, there is more to war than the actual fight on the battle field. The most important aspect of war is diplomacy and the Hausa - Fulanis are the masters of building alliances. They can make a Saraki or an Awoniyi fight for their interest against their ethnic group. When the war starts they would know how to reel in the birom, tiv, jukun, and other minority tribes in the North. I am sure they would even have some allies among the Igbos because when I was up north I knew a lot of Igbo boys who had become Abubakar Mohammed and pray facing east. They had been completely absorbed into the North.

The main problem of the Igbos is their inability to build alliances, they are not ready to give in order to take.

As long as the war is multi-pronged, as long as it is not Igbo versus others, the islamic North will lose. The Tiv, Beroms and other xtian northerners know better now. The core North has not been able to rein them in this time around. The Igbos will make it clear that it is the islamic hausa/fulani (and may be kanuri war) against the other Nigerian tribes. On the bolded, there are Igbos who are muslims as their are hausa/fulani who are christians. They can be throwing bombs now but at that time, all others will be throwing bombs at them. Anyways, let us get to that bridge before crossing it.

jason123:
Please, no need for insults . . .
According to him, "we are far too deep into the geographical expression to leave now".

''Are you okay in the brain'' is not an insult. It is a question?

''Far too deep'' after just 6 years? We got our independence in 1960 and by 1966 we are already far too deep? The point is only Awo knew what he wanted. He must have been speaking from both sides of his mouth not wanting one Nigeria, but when it was time to show it, he went for one Nigeria.

bashr8:
Mischief so what was biafras mission in your so called Yoruba invasion? Capture yorubas? Meanwhile the so called biafrans soldiers in Midwest were of Midwest origin and headed by a Yoruba man,  we can do this over and over again.

When you say Nigerian army (fighting against Biafra) what would that mean? Would that mean hausa/fulani/middle belt soldiers or would that mean  hausa/fulani/middle belt/[b]Yoruba [/b]soldiers?
What was the capital of Nigeria at that time?
If you were a Biafran commander, how would you stop the enemy fighting as directed from the capital of Nigeria from attacking you further?
Who led the Biafran invasion of Ore? Do you know why that person instead of an Igbo was chosen for that mission?

Extinct in 50 years Ke. UNESCO has no other thing to do then.
British English will go extinct in 7 years.

jason123:
I went to the source of unity which is Azikwe. Awo did not want "one Nigeria", he wanted Southern Nigeria with the East. But he was the minority in a 3-man vote.
Gowon, to be honest, I don't know why he fought to keep Ndigbo in Nigeria. You cannot be in the same house with an unhappy wife or husband.
The Sarduane did not want one Nigeria. He was convinced by Azikwe and the British. All his expressions were against a united Nigeria.
Obasanjo was simply a solider who fought to defend his country's unity.

Awo did not want one Nigeria yet he fought with the worst weapon (starvation) to keep Nigeria one. Are you okay in the brain?

At what point did he change his mind?

sheyguy:
My main fear is a divided south where all the sub regions are sharing border with the North. They can easily cönquer each region seperately.

May be they will defeat the Yorubas, but definitely not the Igbo. As long as all southern groups fight their own wars against the Islamic North and not interfere with other southern groups by joining with the islamic North, this is going to be a war that the islamic north will NOT win. They still have to fight the Beroms, Tivs, Idomas, etc in the North. How many liver they get?

Those wars of the 1800s and back have no relevance in modern day warfare. The OP is an ignoramus