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Dede1:
I do not know how many people who contributed to this thread are naturalized American citizen and still insinuate Ajimobi did not renounce his Nigerian citizenship.

I am not sure there are instances in Nigeria constitution where dual citizenship is allowed or expressed. If dual citizenship is allowed in Nigeria, what are the purpose of sections182 and 28 in the constitution?

The NAS has not passed any bill that allows dual citizenship between Nigeria and any other country or vice versa. You can not acquire citizenship of every country in the world and selfishly assume your country allows dual citizenship. There must be an act of NAS that expresses such arrangement.

If Ajimobi is a naturalized citizen of USA, where he could vote and be voted as governor, he did renounce his citizenship of another country, including Nigeria, the day he attended the citizenship ceremony in USA.

Dede1,
If indeed Ajimobi is a naturalized citizen of the USA, then by definition, he must have renounced his Nigerian citizenship. Many naturilized US citizens from Nigeria, keep using their Nigerian passports illegaly - even after renouncing their Nigerioan citizenship as required, in order to become a US citizen. If Ajimobi were a naturalized citizen of any other country, he would have been OK.

wahala dey for Ajimobi o.

There is only one issue that needs to be resolved by the supreme court in this case. The case is not clear cut and either party could win.

Lets look at section 182 again:

182. (1) No person shall be qualified for election to the office of Governor
of a State if -
(a) subject to the provisions of section 28 of this Constitution, he has voluntarily acquired the citizenship of a country other than Nigeria or, except in such cases as may be prescribed by the National Assembly, he has made a declaration of allegiance to such other country

There are two parts to this section, the fisrt part in blue text above and the second part in red text. If the supreme court rules that both parts of section 182 are subject to section 28, then Akala has no case and he loses, for section 28 only applies to people who are not Nigerian citizens by birth.

If on the other hand, if having made a declaration of allegiance to another country, as stated in the second part of section 182, makes one ineligible to contest, then, Ajimobi will not be the Governor.

The supreme court has actually never ruled on this issue. This case could have far reaching ramifications.

You people are siting cases whose transcripts you are obviously unfamiliar with. It suffices to say that the supreme court is the final authority on constitutional issues and that court is yet to rule on the issue at hand.

That a lower court ruled as you claim does not make the issue constitutional, the plaintiffs in those cases did not appeal to the supreme court.  I suspect that many of you will be shocked when the supreme court rules on this matter. I am sure that PDP will take the case to that level.

Many office holders are very worried as we speak. Akala should watch his back.

GODSON2009:
this is just silly and the act of a drowning man clutching at straws,

david mark carries an irish passport
dimeji bankole british passport
james ibori british passport
ayo fayose british passport

and a host of others

@GODSON2009, If PDP wins this case, a host of illegal office holders including some of the ones you mentioned will be on their way out. I don't see how any sane judge can rule against the PDP here. Here are the applicable constitutional provisions - note that the bolded text appear in each provision listed. e be like say yawa don gas.


66. (1) No person shall be qualified for election to the Senate or the House of Representatives if:
(a) subject to the provisions of section 28 of this Constitution, he has voluntarily acquired the citizenship of a country other than Nigeria or, except in such cases as may be prescribed by the National Assembly, has made a declaration of allegiance to such a country;

107. (1) No person shall be qualified for election to a House of Assembly if -
(a) subject to the provisions of Section 28 of this Constitution, he has voluntarily acquired the citizenship of a country other than Nigeria or, except in such cases as may be prescribed by the National Assembly, has made a declaration of allegiance to such a country;

137. (1) A person shall not be qualified for election to the office of President if -
(a) subject to the provisions of section 28 of this Constitution, he has voluntarily acquired the citizenship of a country other than Nigeria or, except in such cases as may be prescribed by the National Assembly, he has made a declaration of allegiance to such other country;

182. (1) No person shall be qualified for election to the office of Governor of a State if -
(a) subject to the provisions of section 28 of this Constitution, he has voluntarily acquired the citizenship of a country other than Nigeria or, except in such cases as may be prescribed by the National Assembly, he has made a declaration of allegiance to such other country;

Alhaji Ade0001, a constitutional interpretation which seems clear to you, may be given a very different interpretation by many judges and even the supreme court. There is a chance that Akala may win this case.

You site the provision in section 28 in reaching the conclusion that Ajimobi was a qualified candidate. Please take a closer look at section 182:

182. (1) No person shall be qualified for election to the office of Governor
of a State if -
(a) subject to the provisions of section 28 of this Constitution, he has voluntarily acquired the citizenship of a country other than Nigeria or, except in such cases as may be prescribed by the National Assembly, he has made a declaration of allegiance to such other country

Ajimobi cannot be disqualified based on the text in blue above which you sited in your statement.  You however you failed to read the remaining of the provision thus ignoring the very provision which may very well get Ajimobi disqualified.  The text in Red, applies to Ajimobi, in that he has made a declaration of allegiance to a country other than Nigeria.

I'm afraid the case is not as clear cut as you are implying here. Akala may open up a can of worms. Why can't he just go and retire in peace. Olodo, barawo.

I posted the text below in another thread but it is appropriate here as well.

I also believe that we need a law in Nigeria which will mandate Primary school education and provide jail terms for parents who do not send their children to school. Those who want their children to become Almajiris should provide after school training for them. The archaic culture of enslaving millions of youths and rendering them a menace to the society, in the name of senseless implementation of an aspect of religion, must be eradicated from our mist.

I wonder why we don't have Almajiris roaming the streets of Saudi Arabia, Quatar, or even Indonesia, in great numbers (millions). Note that, the children of the Sultan of Sokoto, IBB, Atiku, Ciroma, Yerima, and other so-called leaders of the North will never be found in the streets of Nigeria roaming around as Almajiris.

FACE:
Hey, yaya dei ? We really need to invest more agressively in education (at least basic). What would work for northern Nigeria in my opinion is more small sized schools and more qualified teachers to run them.

Let me explain; a state like Imo might require 30 large schools to satisfy their needs, while a state like Niger would require not less than 200 small schools to meet their needs because Niger state is at least 15 times larger than Imo state. That is the disadvantage of your large land mass in the north unfortunately. This means that it would cost considerably more in the north to deliver the same spread and quality of schools as you have in the south.

However, if not for the kleptomania across the nation, there would have been a different outlook by now. E.g, less than $1.5B of the $5.7 B you mentioned will make it to their intended target.

I agree with you once again. I also believe that we need a law in Nigeria which will mandate Primary school education and provide jail terms for parents who do not send their children to school. Those who want their children to become Almajiris should provide after school training for them. The archaic culture of enslaving millions of youths and rendering them a menace to the society, in the name of senseless implementation of an aspect of religion, must be eradicated from our mist.

I wonder why we don't have Almajiris roaming the streets of Saudi Arabia, Quatar, or even Indonesia, in great numbers (millions). Note that, the children of the Sultan of Sokoto, IBB, Atiku, Ciroma, Yerima, and other so-called leaders of the North will never be found in the streets of Nigeria roaming around as Almajiris.

I don't believe many posters complaining about coca cola slavery have never had the pleasure or responsibility of meeting payroll for any company - even if the company has only one employee. You don't run a business by being a morality police, you play by the rules with the sole objective of maximizing shareholder value.

If a corporation can get away with making N1 per month, or N1 trillion per month, legally, then that's what they should do! Nigerian laws allows employers to organize and bargain - take advantage of that instead of whining. awon olodo.

BecomerichO is not a Nigerian? Why da heck is he so passionate about Nigerian affairs?

None of the above. send Becomerichie

I believe the US government and others like it, pass minimum wage laws to reduce exploitation of citizens by corporations. In as much as coca-cola is not breaking any minimum wage law, the company cannot be accused of illegalities or immoral acts simply because it is practicing capitalism.

As someone mentioned earlier, if any employee believes that their pay is too low, he/she should look for another job. What people like Kilode! should do to make a difference is to organize protests and/or help the workers unionize, so that they can negotiate better working conditions. Jesse Jackson made millions of dollars for himself and many workers by shaking down corporations such as coca cola, for the kind of issues Kilode! is complaining about.

Kilode! and others, your poor brothers and low paid Nigerians await your leadership in this matter. Your brothers and sisters would also appreciate taking the government up on its responsibilities in this regard.

FACE:
The NCEE is for entrance into unity schools (FGCs+ Kings College and FGGCs + Queens College) which are less than 80 in number out of more than 12000 Sec schools nationwide. Various states have their own entrance exams/admission criteria into their own school in addition to the private schools. There are also Command Sec Schools, Navy Schools + AFMS and NMS and they conduct their own entrance exams, so why would the writer expect 10 millions applications to < 0.7% of available schools ?

The writer's analysis is flawed on many counts.

1. Not everyone is interested in going to unity schools.

2. Majority of those in unity schools need to travel a considerable distance from home in order to attend a unity school (I attended a unity school so I know)and not everyone is interested in travelling a considerable distance to attend school when the local secondary school is near the corner and when there is a state school that rocks for them.

3. Gone are the days when unity schools flew the highest flags as there are now many private and church schools giving the a good run for their money.

4. There are more than 12000 secondary schools in Nigeria and if people show the same level of interest in all the schools as they do to unity schools, it means that more than nine million people are showing interest in secondary schools.

Put another way, unity schools represent less than 0.7% of total sec schools in Nigeria but attract more than 1.3% (at 5 million/year which is more reasonable than the the 10M postulated by the writer which implies that he expects at least 60M Nigerians in Sec Sch and at least another 60M in Primary school) of potential secondary school students, which is already more than their fair share of attraction.

People should take time and cross check their analysis before they go to town with them.

FACE, mai gida, I was going to comment on this topic until I read your post. I wholeheartedly agree with your analysis.

Having said that, we cannot forget that literally millions of kids are wasting away without primary education, much more secondary, particularly from Northern Nigeria. We hope the Feds and the states' ministries of education with a combined budget of over $5.7billion per year, will do something tangible about the problem in the next 4 years.

Eziachi is an old soldier, (I mean a real one ). I feel  your pain, my brother - dalu.

Onlytruth:
There are no permanent enemies in politics. We can caucus (if PDP SE joins APGA ) with ACN and strike a deal to make Ngige Senate president and someone from North speaker of the house of reps.


I have also chosen to ignore mikeansy because he makes no sense.

Onlytruth, olodo!!! Please don't make me laugh at your naivity and frankly idiosy in these matters. Make a deal with ACN to make Ngige, a rookie senator, the Senate President  You are no better than the Igbo leaders you are vilifying. You people have no clue when to pick a fight or what is worth fighting for.  

Swallow your pride and typical egotistical stubbornness, you will then see that mikeansy is light years ahead of you  in terms of political sophistication and understanding.

The SE leaders have a very good opportunity to actually extract tangible commitments from GEJ. They need to demand that GEJ agrees that one of the first actions of the FEC after May 29 would be to award contracts for the construction of a major international airport in the SE, the reconstruction of the River Niger bridge, and the construction of major highways linking SEern cities together.

They can also extract a public promise to support Ndigbo for VP position in 2015. GEJ must make public statements to the above else no deal.

We thank the USA for this ship. No doubt, our drunken sailors and naval officers are incapable of operating the ship - we therefore thank USA once more for providing hightly skilled advisers to train our people . This ship will be instrumental in smoking out MEND terrorists  and in launching drone attacks on other terrorists in the area.

We shall also welcome Africom operatives to conduct joint exercises with our people. Alhaji Obama, biko, attach very long strings to this gift, mucha gracias.

GEJ destroyed the PDP zoning agreement to run for re-election while making enemies of some powerful Northerners. GEJ has also managed to anger the SE zone in the process.

The best bet for the SEers is to start now by forging meaningful alliances with the North - this will be their best hope of producing the next Vice President in 2015.

To tell you the truth, the SWers are positioning themselves to become completely (economically)independent from the Feds for the most part. It may not matter whether the president is from the SW in 2015 as long as the monthly allocation keeps flowing in.

The phrase Yoruba Ronu should more appropriately be replaced by Igbo Ronu. Ronu means think, in the Yoruba language.

Abi David West be latent supporter of terrorists MEND ni? The only threat the said agreement would pose to david-West would be the destruction of the remaining wings of terrorists MEND. Let the Americans come and help rid us of terrorists, be they Al Quaeda or MEND.

[quote author=Inked_Nerd link=topic=665641.msg8309204#msg8309204 date=1305237080]Although  a person can get HIV/AIDS through the trasmitting blood from another person's mouth, the chances of that are slim. You'd need to swallon gallons of the persons spit to really be infected.[/size][/font][/quote]You indeed need to swallow gallons of a person's spit to be infected, but all you need is one or two drops of blood. Kiss and injest the blood of an infected person, and you are done for. Be wise.

kandiikane:

Are you serious?? Abi na gum yu dae floss or teeth? Flossing is used to remove plaque and stains on teeth and between teeth. Im sorry but reallyy!!! chinekeee

I have never heard of this sef, maybe I did not hear fine wen my dentist was telling me about flossing.

Ar dey use floss only for tie teeth but I do not bleed so heeh.

You sound like a dullard, sorry to say. If you don't floss regularly, you could develop gum disease without your knowledge unless a dentist inspects your teeth. Bleeding from the gum and the areas where you did not floss is symptomatic of gum disease. You can make contact with the blood of your partner through kissing if your partner has gum disease. Quite a few Nigerians walk around with gum disease. Most of you people do not go to the dentist unless you have tooth ache.

If you have the said gum disease, you don't need to get cut to bleed through the gum. Be wise.

Believe it or not, the issue raised in the thread could be a matter of life or death. The most potent veneral diseases such as HIV/Aids and Herpes are transmitted quite efficiently through blood contact. That means that a person who does not floss regularly could bleed when some pressure is applied to the gum area, as could be the case when kissing is very passionate. There is definitely a risk of being infected by some of these exotic viruses through kissing.

To be safe, do not kiss or have unprotected sex without having you and your partner tested for HIV apriori. Ignorance is not a sufficient excuse for risking your life.

How I miss the lofty presence of  Sir Odumegwu Ojukwu, the ikemba Nnewi Eze Igbo Gburugburu.   

The real deal was the one made between David Mark, Bankole, and GEJ during the Yar'Adua saga wherein, GEJ would be supported by those 2 leaders of NASS and they in turn would annoint GEJ as acting President. GEJ's action item was to support both Mark and Bankole if they were reelected. Notice how GEJ through OBJ tried very hard to get Bankole a ticket.

The SE politicians knew of the agreements and are not surprised at all, at GEJ's support. Sorry to say, the current crop of SE leaders are political  novices. Egbe ndi Israeli piafuka their heads one at a time.

Most of the great points made and ideas suggested by some of the bright posters on this thread, are only good for academic purposes. It saddens me that you people do not understand what drives your elected leaders. What drives them are self interests and greed.  If you don't factor this in your calculations, you'll all be in for a very rude awakening.

Now, zoning pattern drawn out at the recent Obudu meeting goes thus:  President—South South; Vice President--Northwest; Senate President—North Central; Deputy Senate President--Southeast; Speaker--Southwest; Deputy Speaker--Northwest; SGF--Southeast and PDP National Chairman--Northeast.

I guarantee you that your elected leaders will troop behing this plan because it may cost them goodies if they go against the wishes of the President.  Sooner or later, even the elected officers from the SE will keep silent instead of kicking and screaming against such a move.

Novel idea. Political parties poking their noses in the economic development of the states they control politically. (New fund raising tool for future elections )

I would have prefered that this were a cooperation between states devoid of any political party influences. I smell a rat, including Alpha Beta and the like.

The idea is excellent, but please get political parties out of the equation.

Beaf:
Markings mine. Source: http://hdr.undp.org/en/reports/nationalreports/africa/nigeria/nigeria_hdr_report.pdf

Beaf,  you know better than to site a 2005 survey, which is essentially outdated, to make your point. We all know that Ibori and others looted most of the funds intended to keep the trend you are championing, going.  Provide more recent data to support your arguement, this laziness of yours is unbecoming. olodo

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texazzpete:
I know it's difficult but can you people please remember that for every Corps member killed, at least 10 other innocent men, women and children were slaughtered by the mob. Making this all about the Corpers is in very bad taste indeed. We need to mourn and demand for justice for EVERYONE who was a victim of this crisis.

A much welcomed voice of reason. Tribalism and bigotry will not let my people see reason in what you posted.

Simply beautiful