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There are various news reports of strong indications that the alliance talks between the Congress for Progressive Change (CPC) and the Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN) would be sealed in the next few days.

While the parties seem to be moving towards a deal that could concede the presidential ticket to former military head of state, General Muhammadu Buhari (rtd.), the Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu-led-ACN is insisting on producing Buhari’s running mate.

I had expected APGA to have made a strategic political move/gesture towards ACN for inclusion in the alliance talks. APGA could then argue that the best chance of the coalition defeating GEJ would be to produce the VP in the person of Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, for example.

The current crop of leaders from the SE are a disappointment to say the least, I sincerely wish Ojukwu were in good health at the moment because he would have not allowed our region in the SE to be relegated to a position of irrelevancy, so quickly. What a shame! 

Once again, congratulations in advance to GEJ. GEJ will defeat any Buhari ticket with a VP from the SW because Ndigbo will not vote en mass for such a ticket.

@Andrew Uweh, I don't have time for an attention seeking intellectual midget like you. Egbe ndi Israeli piafuka gi si, additionally, Okwute Palestinians piafuka gi blokus.

Andre Uweh:
@the poster, there is nothing wrong with that. In the east, electoral bodies do not build polling stations but makes use of town halls, village squares etc.

If there is nothing wrong, why are INEC officials and the deputy Governor shocked?  Did you read the article at all? I'm disappointed with you for your laziness.  olodo

Describing such registration centres as what people use to perpetuate electoral fraud, the deputy governor said: “This, I can assure you, is part of the rascality of the past which the present government under Mr. Peter Obi is trying hard to stamp out of the state.”
However, a former deputy chairman of Oyi Local Government, Chief Samuel Offorkansi, who is overseeing affairs at the voting centres, insisted that the place had been serving as voting and registration centres since 1998, stressing that contrary to what the people think, the centres were in the midst of densely populated villages.


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Wonders shall neve end.     

Shock and disbelief could best describe the mood of Anambra State Deputy Governor, Mr. Emeka Sibeudu and the Resident Electoral Commissioner (REC) for the state, Prof. Chukwuemeka Onukaogu, yesterday when the duo led security operatives to discover four registration centres located at a shrine in a deep forest.

The four centres which are in the deep Nziko forest at Nteje in Oyi Local Government Area, were manned by registration officers and had, at the time of the discovery, registered only about 200 voters since the commencement of the exercise 10 days ago.
Following security reports made available to Governor Peter Obi, his deputy and the REC led security operatives to the forest where the startling revelation of the four centres with the accompanying Direct Data Capture (DDC) machines was made.
On arrival at the forest which took about 40 minutes drive from the nearest residential area, the registration officers, mainly corps members, were idle and gazing at the machines with virtually nobody to register.

Reacting to the incident, the shock-stricken Prof. Onukaogu, described as painful, the discovery of four centres serving nobody in a thick forest when there were not enough machines for potential voters in places like Awka, Onitsha, Nnewi, Adazi, Agulu and others.
He said: “I have heard of floating/flying polling booths. Today, I have seen one. I am sad that there are four machines wasting here, whereas there are no machines in Onitsha, Eke Awka, Ozubulu, Nnewi and parts of Anaocha where thousands of people are waiting to be registered.”

Onukaogu noted that the four centres had registered only about 200 voters since the exercise started 10 days ago, when the same machines would have registered several thousands had they been located in densely-populated areas.
He said the irregular location of the centres also posed grave risk to the registration officers and the machines, questioning, “how will I evacuate men and machines in the event of danger?”
The REC boss alleged that the centres have been secured by an influential politician from the area, who would want to use it to rig election, but assured that he would remove three machines and leave one behind, just as he would need to meet with the registration officials before taking action.

Onukaogu stressed that he was constrained by the fact that the “floating registration centres” deep in the forest were documented from the INEC Abuja headquarters and assured it would be corrected. Also speaking, the Deputy Governor, who expressed shock at the location of the registration centres, said: “We have shortfalls in machines. But in the forest here, there are four machines lying idle. All the people we met here are not up to 10. But if you go to some other places, you will find thousands of people waiting to be registered”.

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Sapeleguy and his cohorts don take style sectionalize de discussion for dis thread, like say Delta no be part of naija. If man pikin add contribution now, people like Sapeleguy go say make I ride donkey comot for thread. Mgvbo, mgbo, hmmmm

[quote author=ndu_chucks]Seccessionists should take note of this development which is indicative of things to come, if they have their way. Feeding may become quite challenging.[/quote][quote author=response to ndu_chucks]In the event of seccession, Cameroon and Benin Republic will feel any gaps. The concerned parts of Nigeria will only need to build better connecting roads, sea ports and rail lines to those countries; they will recieve fruit and veg from Cameroon and Benin Republic, while Cameroon and Benin Republic get exported manufactured products in return. QED.

In the long term, areas like Obudu, Mambilla, Benue and Plateau will be made into highly productive agricultural zones that will feed all of West Africa. . . What was the food problem again?[/quote]

hardbody:
In that case, why wait till seccession, why dont we start now and build up on this brilliant solution, and in the event the seccession never happens, the country will still be the better for it.

hardbody, abi o. Help me ask them for answers.

@Beaf, what's the point of your last post? Are you not bright enough to understand what is being discussed here? Does the word context mean anything to you?

Do you suffer from Munchausen Syndrome, an attention-seeking personality disorder? Answers to these questions will go a long way in providing for your healing. And please stop defacing this thread with those horrendous photographs. olodo

@Dede1, your analysis is right on the money.


@Beaf, what is the matter with you, are you unable to take a tiny lil' shot without going nuts? Very funny guy. By the way, your comment about Abagworo has nothing to do with the opinion he expressed

Abagworo's assertion is quite right. You people are the confused ones because of the lack of depth and your getting bogged down by semantics.

To you people, tribalism is the same as bigotry and being recalcitrant when the issue of other tribes comes into play at any level. You also believe that tribalists are inherently anti-other tribes. You are mistaking people who are protecting the interest of their "tribes" as bigots. This is wrong.

It is obvious that people like Ibime cannot be classified as a bigots. Ibime, like every Nigerian, will verbally protect the interest of his ethnic group and probably that of his wife's ethnic group (assuming he is married and to someone from a different ethnic group). Does that make him a tribalist? I think not.

The "tribalists" on this forum using the definition of you peons, will never say anything positive about ethnic groups other than his, is unable to criticise any leader from his ethnic group, vigorously attack anyone who offers criticisms of leaders from his/region (never mind that it is constructive), and suffers from inferiority complex.

Abagworo is right.

Now, if people like Beaf are classified as detribalized, then one would be blatantly wrong, to say the least. Beaf wadooo.

REAL TRUTH:
This is a case of dementia,,,a form of mental illness,,,,,,The sad thing is that people re so back ward in Nigeria and the leaders and Government wants them to remain so,,,

Indeed. Many a mothers, grandmothers, and old women suffering from Alzheimer's Disease have been stoned to death because Nigerians ignorantly labelled them as witches. Sad

Beaf:
Maybe one day you people will stop obsessing about oil that exists in far off lands that aren’t yours and actually start doing a decent days job. It will serve you better than sour grapes. If only you cast your eyes closer to home, you will find that the North you come from is worth much more than the onions and tomatoes you are flaunting like they are diamonds.

Forget about oil and onions and educate the 10 million almajiri's that have become an economic and security burden. They are a vast human resource that has been reduced a private army of readymade Neanderthal rioters who live a dog’s life.

I have frequently posted on NL that there are many cities the World over that have a greater GDP than the whole of Nigeria put together. London’s budget is quite a few times the size of the Nigerian budget, yet there are several cities like Tokyo that make London’s economic output look like child’s play. And it doesn’t stop with the developed World, cities like Sao-Paulo and Buenos-Aires also outstrip Nigeria in economic output, yet they are mere cities.
Do you want to know the secret? It isn't from oil, but from investments in and nurturing of their human resources. Progressive Northerners are strategising about how to educate and harness the catastrophically wasted resource that almajiri's present, while you are here regressively obsessed with other peoples oil. I repeat, my state doesn't need the oil, except that in God's wisdom, we hold churn out 35% of the nation’s output.

You need to think human resource and stop the small minded strategising around oil and onions.

Once again, story story. You are incapable of making a objective comment on the topic at hand because of your obsession with Northerners and the North. To be honest with you, you are disgracing yourself here and have become the emperor without clothes in the forum - a laughing stock. Northerners have absolutely nothing to do with your inability to produce ordinary onions in enough quantity to satisfy your needs.

Please have your customary last word on the issue, mumu.

These reporters keep trying to impose whomever they so choose as Northern leaders. The "Northern" PDP consensus candidate became the Northern candidate, nevermind that Buhari, Ribadu, and other Northerners are in the race. The Ciroma group became Northern leaders, now these "Northern" leaders are supposed to be shocked that IBB now supports GEJ.

Only a fool will be shocked at this development, it should be obvious to all, that supporting GEJ is the prudent thing for IBB to do. IBB is not as revered in the North as he is in say the South East.  Remember that IBB was stoned out of Zaria only a few months ago.

Beaf:
Like I said earlier, Delta State has several large scale fishing industries and supply rubber, oil pam produce and shrimps for export. Our industries are owned by Deltans, not by almajiri's.

Dude, better buy a hyena and stick to clowning. You are the slow one and one of the slowest that exist indeed. It is your people that are known for laziness, illiteracy, backwardness, wickedness and a born to rule mentality that is greatly affecting your judgement and making you irrational.

Your first challenge to me was to give you a list of industries from my state. In words:

To your embarrassment, I went on to name several areas where my state produces significant exports and an aggressive entrepreneurial spirit. Your reply is that others (like your leaders who only produce dust, almajiri’s and obnoxious fools like Ciroma) own our industries. Of course, Olorogun Michael Ibru who started aero contractors, the provision of trawlers through Osadjere Fishing Company etc, while you were still in your diapers is a Hausa man. Same goes for the Ogboru’s, Sunny Odogwu’s, Nduka Obaigbena’s. Perhaps, the Gamaliel Onosode’s, Pat Utomi’s, Okonjo-Iweala’s, Bruce Onobrakpeya’s, Ben Okri’s are all Hausa as well. Needless to say, 4 out of the top 10 richest Nigerians are from my state.

I would be quiet if I were you. Dude, the only thing your people are famous for in Delta State is begging and armed robbery along the roads to the East. Ask your useless elite why this is. Your people do not own any significant businesses in Delta State, in fact they are a drain on our economy.

Please help yourself and list any significant industries (or even schools) from your state. Also, dig deep into your soul to find out why it has taken someone from the South to begin the mass education of almajiri’s that your useless elite have preferred to churn out on an industrial scale. Instead of parading as Ndu Chucks, please revert to Ibn Muthalib or some username that does not decieve people about who you are.

Dude, you have my condolences, I didn’t realize that your obsession with Northerners or “North” has eaten you up this deeply.

You should be honest and objective enough to admit that it is the colossal failure of your leaders both in government and business, that lead to the disgrace of Onions being more expensive than a liter of oil. Instead of admitting this obvious failure, you are here attacking Northerners and the “North”.

No matter how hard you try, everyone who can read has seen that breeze don blow, fowl yansh don open, in this particular case. Keep burying your head in sand, in denial. Rakumin dajij.

P.S. You last post was hilarious. olodo

ShangoThor:
@ Kalu A, that's my point, you only really speak for yourself.

This NairaLand board is strewn across with threads about how Igbo's are being killed in Jos.
I am being positive here and suggesting we do something about this and all you can do is abuse.

Why don't you post exactly what you commented here on all those threads. Wow, not only are you narcissistic,
you're reasoning is also atavistic , it's clouding your judgement and your ability to reason, unless
you're just trolling , your reasoning ties whole polities to the deeds of single actors, thats
a redundant mode of thought ,

Nwanne m,  Some forumites are so consumed with hatred that their objectivity suffers. Our people talk say: ihe dimkpa no odu hu, nwata agaghi ahu ma okwuru oto .

@tpia & ola edo, may I strongly recommend that you take this important discussion of yours to a remote chatroom for best effect, please? That will spare us a bit of agro. you romantic animals, you.

Rubbish!! You can't put new wine in old wine skin. The same old rotten eggs surround GEJ and and control PDP.

ono:
Who's this ndu_chuks guy? If you're from the North - as I can glean from this discourse, please know that Nigeria is moving forward at a very fast pace. All oil parasites resident in the north (and elsewhere) have had their fill of blood money from ''oil stealing''. Game's up.

And I must say Beaf's reply to your question is spot on. We're from Delta State and we know how much we contribute to Nigeria's purse every month. Can you please tell us what your people up north contribute to the nation's purse every month/year? - inclusive of all the onion, carrot, sugar-cane, cattle and potato that comes to the south from your end. We await your response.

You need to understand that with or without oil, the South will definitely survive (if na only food be ya concern).

I’m afraid that you have allowed your tribal/regional bigotry to becloud your objectivity in this case. The bitter truth in my comments have nothing to do with North or South. You people are lazy, pure and simple, and suffer from the same oil resource curse which afflicts other regions.

How in the world can your leaders squander over $20billion in a few years without providing the conditions that will foster agricultural development? It is disgraceful that you cannot produce enough onions for yourselves. Your outrage is misplaced pal.

You have not contributed a darn thing to the economy as you claim above. Oil is underground and you had nothing whatsoever to do with its being there. Additionally 90% of exported crude oil in the past 15 years is from off shore activities. I stand by my statements.

Can't We All Just Get Along? Rodney King(USA) 2003

chidexy:
Oil shouldn't prevent us from exploiting other sources of revenue. It's alarming that Onion should cost that much in Nigeria, Jos riot or not. We should give serious thoughts to micro agricultural scheme. Growing onions shouldn't be a problem

I couldn't agree with you more. The governors, businessmen, "entreprenuers", and people of the area have seriously failed. I mean, the can't even plant enough onions to feed themselves, they have nothing but fertile land.

Obasanjo said in 2003: "You cannot produce anything because you are lazy. It is your laziness that is making you to make all these demands". Obasanjo was right then and his statement is still correct today. These people are lazy and only believe in handouts, bunkering, and kidnapping. Truth be told.

Beaf:
Again, you are so concerned about oil. Why?
Please continue laughing. In time, you will find that you have been laughing at yourself.

Are you this slow? The joke is on you pal! You claim that 35% of Nigeria's oil comes from your region and that you don't need oii. You further claimed that you have several sectors fully developed including airlines, boat buliding and marine services, timber and plywood, textiles.  You forgot to mention that the majority owners of several of those companies are not from the region - they are primarily Igbos, Hausas, and Yorubas.

You are yet to produce a single item for export with any meaningful impact to our economy - lazy people! I lived in the area and used to plant tomatoes in my backyard. I ask you again, name a single product that you have exported out of the region at a significant level.  Think of the answer and understand that the joke is on you. Do you produce tomatoes for local consumption? Even oinions can grow in your region, have you planted any? 

You people are just as lazy and unproductive as most other regions. All you depend on is bunkering, terrorism, and allocation from oil proceeds. You are parasites as well. olodo

Beaf:
We are developed well above the Nigerian average, a place like Warri is dotted with several heavy engineering businesses (small, medium and large).

I could go on and on. . .

We do not need oil; but in Gods wisdom, 35% of Nigeria's crude just happens to be under us;
As for agriculture, we have several fishing industries and supply rubber, oil pam produce and shrimps for export.

The vast majority of our oil is off-shore and less than 10% of exported crude oil in the past 15 years came from onshore activities. Stop the lies.


You don't need oil, ko? You have several fishing industries - sebi the ocean is close-by. Ngwanu, tell us -  how many fish have you all exported as a result of your massive industrial actions in the fishing area?  1 fish, abi na 2 or three. Please don't make me laugh.

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Katsumoto:
You asked for solutions, I gave you a detailed breakdown but you failed to respond? Is it because you are afraid of the ideas to deal with looters?

You provided some great ideas and potential solutions, I like most of them.  If I didn't know any better I'd say that you have ESP because your idea about how to deal with looters or corrupt officials, as you put it, is impractical.

You suggested the following:
4. Seize the assets of all corrupt govt. officials and their cronies and fronts
5. Short jail sentences for all corrupt officials; they shouldn't have to feed of our resources.

These ideas are dead on arrival. As a practical matter, it is impossible to find any top government official who is not corrupt – truth be told (duk barawo ne). By the time you lock them all up, there will be no one left to run the government!  A more realistic approach is to allow them to keep a substantial amount of their assets and agree to stay out of politics for ever, in return for freedom.

By the way, why did you assume that I'd be more interested in your idea of how to deal with the looters than in other solutions? Abi you think say I be looter ni?

Beaf:
I recall mentioning Obudu, Mambilla, Benue and Plateau; none of which are oil producing, my reply was about transport links, manufactured goods etc, and it covered vast areas of Nigeria, so how come your reply is only about oil?

Since oil, seems to be a subject that has you by the jugular, lets deal with it. How do you turn land polluted by parasites into agricultural zones overnight?

Nigerians are happy to have commenced the ejection of oil parasites. That project will hit completion in a couple of years and Nigerians will begin to see the the rich possibilities in a life after parasites. Oil is a resource that should have enriched the nation, instead it became a source of embarassment as we began relying on fuel imports to power our cars and industries, because the parasites could make deals that sweetened their pockets.
In the most tragic of ironies, oil also became a source of poverty for the communities with oil bearing lands. Again, it suited the uncaring parasites to simply sign documents and turn a blind eye to the suffering of fellow citizens in the hands of foreigners. The Niger Delta quickly became (and remains) the most polluted wetlands in the whole World, it also bears the accompanying distinction of being the most polluted oil producing area in the whole World.

Nigerians can only cry halleluja with the joy of seeing the parasites lose power. We now know it is in our hands to move forward, to stop being mere spectators in our oil industry and actually begin to take part in the drilling and prospecting as is done elsewhere in the World; the average person on the streets will be hit by the job opportunities and continued fall in the price of fuel, due to our vastly increased refining capacity (3 new refineries are already on the cards) that will see us importing less and less as an oil producing nation.

Nigeria has changed forever. You best join the train in a positive way and stop happing on seccession and ethnic division. Let those things be a last resort, and since we are no longer held by the throat by parasites, seccession should not even be mentioned at this time. Or are your people planning to leave?

bla bla bla, story, story.

You sound as if every square centimeter of your land area is oil producing and has been destroyed by pollution. You cannot deceive anyone here. You have more than 70% of arable land in the region, why have you not developed the land? Please name a single item that has been produced by your industries (if they exist) or your entrepreneurs. I’m sure you cannot name any. Wadooo

@ShangoThor, you destroyed an otherwise adequate post with the statement "But we cannot rectify the 'State' because our Northern country men have a vested interest in the setup of the status quo, "

If you don't know by now that those "looters" who have a vested interest in the staus quo hail from East, West, South, and North, then if one must not assume that you are stupid, one would have to conclude that you are bigoted.

Beaf:
In the long term, areas like Obudu, Mambilla, Benue and Plateau will be made into highly productive agricultural zones that will feed all of West Africa. . . What was the food problem again?

Why have you people not turned yet your region to the agricultural zone that will feed all of West Africa, I mean what da heck are you waiting for?  Your governors have received upwards of $20billion in the past few years and have done nothing to improve your agric situation, to say the least. What about your entrepreneurss, are there any in that area at all?

I suppose its better to lazily rely on oil provided by nature while accusing others of bein parasites, than to get off ya b.utts and produce something! Err, forgot to mention, terrorism and bunkering serves you better. olodo

Seccessionists should take note of this development which is indicative of things to come, if they have their way. Feeding may become quite challenging.