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None of what you shared in link answers the question i posed to you. You must answer this question and defend your claim that Yoruba has no legitimacy in Nigeria.

Obiagu,

'found any google material yet? Still waiting on you.

I will sit here and wait for you even if it takes 4hrs for you to dig up answer to this question.

You want to talk about who is Nigerian and who is not.......let's start at the point of British arrival on the coast and their exploration hinterland. Let's start to identify the kingdoms and monarchs they signed treaties with.

Ah Obiagu,

...make sharp sharp, i no get time for you to dey go do research in google to answeer simple question.

How was your protectorate acquired my friend?

Obiagu1: Lagos or Yorubaland is not Nigeria!

If by Nigeria you mean a British corporate land, yes you are correct
The British had to fight the Yorubas to get colony right on the coast.

How did they acquire your protectorate?

Obiagu1: It's obvious you have not understood simple things. In colonial era, you don't amalgamated none protectorates! The British kept expanding by acquiring territories till a final boundary is drawn up leaving no land "independent" of British control.

Lagos colony and Yoruland was not amalgamated rather Yorubaland was acquired by the British, then was added to Lagos colony. There was no amalgamation in Yorubaland.

No....you dont get it!

Amalgamation was a business interest, an economic outline of corporate ambition on native lands.

Colony was a political take over.

Let me know which timeline you want discussed.

Obiagu1: We've gone through this before, didn't we?
You have nothing new. No territory that was not a protectorate was amalgamated, rather territories were acquired till the finally boundaries were drawn up in 1900.
It was in 1900 that the 3 protectorates were born (Lagos was already a protectorate then). Officially, Yorubaland was not Nigeria.

[size=16pt]After that, talk of amalgamation of the 2 Nigerias began not before 1900.[/size]

Obiagu,

Are you interested in the gistory of Nigeria or the history of the colonies and protectorates? I am up all night to discuss it in itsdepth. Let me know which timeline you want.

Eze nnaemeka: lolz, thought I saw some people's writting here saying that he's the messiah?

Is he not? You need people like myself as Lagos state governor for you to appreciate Fashola.

...fvck the constitution I will impose customary laws of the land on y'all a*ses

naptu2: From memory

Comrade Ayodele Akele was a union leader in the Lagos State civil service. He led an illegal strike (only about half of the union participated) in the early 2000s and was consequently sacked. He went to court but lost the case.

He spent the next couple of years attacking Tinubu in the media.

He was the candidate of the NCP in the last election and drew laughter from the debate audience when he suggested that Lagos State can survive on revenue from coconut.

He was also laughed at when he said that Governor Fashola was making a mistake by building the Lagos Rail Transit System, instead of building an underground rail system

(Governor Fashola and the debate moderator asked him how he would finance an underground railway system and how it would be different from the LRT; he couldn't answer).

Naptu, thanks for the factfinding!

I wonder how hes going to tunnell an underground rail system in a land where the average altitude is only about 10ft or less above sea level. Lagos has problem with locating cemetary on higher grounds so bodies can stay underground, much more finding a elevation above the water table for iron and steel to traverse.

Akele should be banned from politics..

Prof Corruption: In one post, you contradicted yourself. You meant Fasola unleashed operation MESA and thereafter asked GEJ to withdraw them? May be you are suffering from Romneynesia. GEJ sent soldiers to Lagos in January, he didn't even deny this. He withdrew them at the time of his convenience despite calls for immediate removal. Some of GEJ's soldiers brutalized Ben Nwabueze etc. These are on records.

In any case, there is nothing wrong in having a joint military-police formations in a mega city like Lagos. Police, not to talk of the ill trained Nigerian one, can not respond to all emergencies in a city like Lagos. A collaboration is not out of place and that collaboration was sought, approved by appropriate authority (Andrew Azazi corroborated this, you know) and that led to reduction in crime rate. Let's be faithful to history.

What's the crap of subsidy you are ranting about? Some of you folks are not even bright. ACN is a party in opposition, if you don't know. How they become a traitor for opposing the policy of an incumbent president is difficult to comprehend.

LASG sacked doctors that failed to respond to competent queries issued them. Not all doctors were sacked. They abandoned their jobs and consequently, were queried to explain why disciplinary action should not be taken against them. Those that responded saved their jobs, the recalcitrant ones were fired. Obviously, you can't dictate to your employer. But as a democrat that he was and still is, Fasola found a way to accommodate them. They are back at work.

Toll is a universal phenomenon. It's not Fasola's creation. Everywhere, in Europe, US, etc , you pay tolls. If a road is built on public private partnership, it's not out of place to have one or two on such road. If you are not comfortable paying such, use the alternative provided by government.

LASU fees are relatively high, I agree. But nothing comes free and Fasola is obviously not running free tertiary education in Lagos. LASU is not even the only school in the country. You can take your siblings to Federal or any less paying schools in the country. What I expect you to be advocating is scholarship schemes that reward excellent students such that if you son is brilliant but poor, he can still be educated.

Above all, if Fasola is just not your type of governor, it's too late, he ll finish his second term. Keep your voter's card till 2015. Remember, Fasola will not be contesting in any gubernatorial election again.

The same complaints and gnashing of teeth when Buhari and Idiagbon started war against indiscipline.....I conceed some of the tactics used may have been too harsh, but we must arrange our lives and future around some design of order and harmony and get rid of the filthy inhuman behaviors. Fashola is doing it boldly and in a democratic manner.....haters will not rest till they frustrate the efforts. These are people like i said that find a lifestyle of brute conduct and chaotic living more pleasant and in consonanse with their own spirit...they are not of the human specie even though they appear human., these are beasts.....descendants of those condemned to hop about on jungle treetops...living on a street level existence where order and courtesy prevails disturbs their being and nature and we see them in grief that Fashola clamps down on unruly disregard for road rules and safety.

We gonna chase the ba*tards back to their tree top habitats.

thelastPope: People like you are not majority. Not so many people are on the ACN payroll. You lot have been playing the ethnic card but that is failing now as witnessed during the last LGA election. Go on with your propaganda and lies. We are watching!

The majority says they are tired of chaos and disorderliness!

PhysicsQED: Obiagu, the point Negro Ntns is getting at, which you seem to have missed, is that other territories were amalgamated with the Oil Rivers/Niger Coast Protectorate, before it was renamed the protectorate of Southern Nigeria. Some of these were in Igboland, others were in other parts of southern Nigeria. And the RNC chartered territories in the south were merged ('amalgamated') with the Niger Coast Protectorate before it was renamed the Southern Nigeria protectorate. For example, Asaba and Onitsha were not really part of the Niger Coast Protectorate before the 1900 amalgamation.

.....the Bini Prince is back. Thanks, yes thats what im saying.....there were two entities merged to form Southern protectorate, you were either in the Niger Coast or you were in chartered territory.

The argument Obiagu makes about Yoruba being an import applies also to Igbo being imported into an already established system of government sovereingty. This is why Katz used the Tobey analog.y

To stretch it further, Obiagu has a startling discovery waiting if he should probe into reasons why none of the three Souther capitals was located in Igboland.

Billyonaire: Thanks for telling me history theories but its needless. The thread is about illegally deploying Soldiers unconstitutionally. So I do not understand why you are writing thesis that are out of point. Fashola by such action acts against his constitutional mandate and should resign, be impeached or be forgiven if he humbly apologizes. I love Fashola but if he goes against Constitutional tenets, he looses my support. Stop meandering!

...lol, so an apology is the proper disposition for addressing an unconstitutional act?

Everytime Fashola violates your constitution and loses the support of people like you he invariably protects the public safety and order of people like me and win our support.

Prof Corruption: Why are you dropping Gani's name? Did Gani issue the senseless press release? Did Gani, who's gone to great beyond, authorize the letter? Leave Gani Fawehinmi out of your palaver. The press release bears the name of one Akele, let deal with Akele and his senseless conjectural crap.

Stop mouthing your nonsense: Banning Okada is a great thing Okada has been regulated not banned in Lagos; there are designated roads that Okada can not use in Lagos. If you are found riding Okada on such roads, you ll be made to face the wrath of law. You don't need soldiers to achieve this. Police are meant to enforce the law and they don't need Fasola's directive to enforce any law for that matter. As long as the law has be gazetted, it becomes enforceable. You don't bend a law if you don't like it, you repeal it. But as long as it remains the law, it remains enforceable. If Okada people want to be plying the high ways, want to ride on Third Mainland Bridge, they should do two things:

1. Find loopholes in the law: the manner in which the law was passed, it contravenes Nigerian constitution, etc. If that's achieved, they can then challenge the constitutionality of the law in any competent court.

2. Lobby to have the law relaxed or repealed.

Self help, an euphemism for hooliganism, will attract nothing short of punishment, not even from Fasola, but from police who are empowered to enforce Lagos laws.

....do you care to please do a civic class 101 for dummies to help ciach people about living in an orderly society?

Me i don tire to talk to these people who only live by and respond in like manner to chaos and bruteness.

Da infamous: abeg go watch terminator you go see the way Schwarzenegger come land from the sky na the same way oduduwa land just sayyy Schwarzenegger fall with slow motion but oduduwa fall with a force and disappear inside ground so Benin people wey hear the impact run,come gather some shovel dig am out first

There are no bigots in NL my friend.

Fashola is not going anywhere, he will serve out his term. ....

[quote author=ndu_chucks]I was told that Major General Johnson Thomas Umunnakwe Aguiyi-Ironsi walked around when he was commander-in-chief with a dead, treated lizard in his hand.

Is there a cultural or political reason for this and do some Igbo's still practice this act? Did Ironsi believe that he derived some sort of supernatural power from this lizard?

Please no bashing, I simply seek to be informed.[/quote]I sincerely believe that humans generally are intimate with nature, whether itis the soil, the animals and beasts, the wind and fire, the stars and moon or for that matter death and reincarnation. Our obsession with life gives us the reality also of mortality. The two are connected and each has its own rhythym and drumbeat.

Without a pre-knowledge of the owner and just by a casual inspection it is easy in America to identify vehicle ownership by race.

White people are fond of death symbols like skulls and bones and also of racy fire. This is the cosmic drumbeat that their soul resonate to.

Black people also hear a cosmic drumbeat and our soul respond to the rhythym of life.

In order for us to preserve life we sacrifice something in death. By keeping a dead animal on him Aguiyi was not necessarily doing harm or acting bad, he was preserving life. Nothing wrong with that!

To the dumbos that ask in wonder why anyone should carry dead animal on them in 2012......I ask you, why do people still tattoo animal prints on their skin in 2012?

The one who carry the tanned dead animal and the person who etched an ink motif of a beast on their skin.....both are gripped by the same unconscious factor of mortal life.

_chucks, since you live in bokoharam territory and have refused to grow beard I suggest you go get a live tortoise to wear around your neck.

Jarus and OAM4J,

I believe in one of your posts in this thread you guys inferred that this debate project is aimed at coordinating ideas and insights with government proposals and policies. I am yet to see anyone align their ideas to the human pain and suffering of the common man; inspite plenty of theories have been shared and argued already.

We are quick as citizens to complain and lament that our elected officials are not responsive and are insensitive to our pain. Well we are demonstrating now that we lack the skill as well that it would take to be good administrators and social planners when our turn comes to sit in their positions.

I wonder why you are plucking topics from the air...state police will be next topic;.....and how will this discussion attach to and address pragmatic issues for society?

Anyway, here's a suggestion.....I propose that we use the order of business in our national assembly as topic for dialogue and debates in NL. What they discuss and pass into law impact us directly in society. Discussing it here will bring knowledge sharing and opportunity for research and as well attunement to national issues...it enriches awareness and promotes civic knowledge and empowerement.

Take a look and if you agree then make it available for us on this platform. If you do not agree with me then please review and tighten the expectations on current project delivery so as to extend the benefits of an idea or theory beyond the cerebral point......assuming that social upliftment is still a commitment for the initiative.

http://www.nassnig.org/nass/legislation.php

THE qualifications of the twenty persons each,under paragraph 5 above, should include literacy in English and eligibility for election as a Member of the Upper House of the Federal Parliament; and disqualifications should include:

1. membership of Federal Parliament, Regional Legislature or Local Government Council, provided that a traditional chief who is an ex officio member of a Local Government Council shall not be disqualified by reason of such membership;

2. membership of the Public Service or of the country’s Forces;

3. holding any office of profit under the Government or any of its agencies;

4. holding office in a Political Party; and

5. ineligibility for election as a member of the Upper House of the Federal Parliament.

Within a period of time, which should be stipulated by the Constitution, the President should, in consultation with the Vice-President, compile a list of candidates for each of the three Commissions. The number of candidates in each case should be thrice the total membership of the Commission. That is to say, if the total membership of a Commission is seven, the President should get up a list of twenty-one candidates.

The President, in consultation with the Vice-President, should also compile details of the character, experience, scholastic qualifications, and any other information which may be useful in assessing the relative merit and suitability of every candidate. When all this has been done, he will then convene a meeting of the College.

The names of the candidates for each Commission will be submitted to the members of the College after they have assembled at the meeting. In other words, no one, other than the President, the Vice-President, and the President’s confidential Secretary should have any knowledge of the names of the candidates until after the members of the College shall have assembled. One hour or so after the names, qualifications, etc., of the candidates have been submitted to the members of the College, they would be called upon to vote on them one by one: one Commission being taken and disposed of before another.

Voting shall be by secret ballot. Only candidates who obtain an absolute majority will be returned. If there are more than the number of members of a Commission who obtain such a majority, then the required number will be chosen in order of votes scored.

At this meeting, there should be no speech-making, no canvassing or lobbying in favour of any candidate, and the College should remain in session continuously, that is, if need be, from day to day and without adjournment, until their task is accomplished. Arrangements for food and accommodation, if required, should be made at the place of meeting. In other words, the members of the College should have no contact with any other person outside their numbers, and those who cater for them, until they have duly appointed all the members of the three Commissions. For this purpose, the Secretary and other Officers of the College, all of whom must be so appointed by the President, should be deemed to be members of  the College, even though they cannot participate in voting.

The members of a Commission duly appointed by the College, should at its first meeting elect their own chairman for the duration of their term of office, which should be five years from the date of their appointment by the College; save that the Chief Justice of the Federation shall be both ex officio member and chairman of the Judicial Service Commission. A member of any of the Commissions should only be removable from office by the College on the grounds of inability to discharge the functions of his office or for misbehaviour.

It is our considered opinion that the method now proposed for the appointment of the members of these Commissions is much better than the old one. It combines the wisdom and sagacity of the President and Vice-President with the Appointors’ unimpeachable detachment and freedom from ‘bias or partial affections in determining the memberships of the three Commissions. To this extent it ensures the independence and impartiality of the members of the Commissions much more than the old system of appointing these members could ever pretend to do. .

We are not unmindful of the fact that in constituting this College, a number of problems will arise. How, for instance, are the Christian and Moslem organizations going to be defined and identified? Who is going to convene the meeting of all the traditional chiefs in the country with a view to getting them to elect their twenty representatives? How are factions within the trade unions going to be brought together to transact the business of electing their own twenty representatives? What rules will govern proceedings at the meeting of the College when they assemble for the purpose of appointing members of the Commissions, or of removing any of them?

(To be continued)

IN most countries of the world, particularly in Britain which serves as our model in  many things, a Code of Conduct has no force of law. Ministers and other persons holding positions of public trust are left in their deliberate judgment to observe the rules of discipline laid down in the Code. In other words, it is up to public men to determine when they believe they have offended against any of the rules, and to take swift steps to invoke appropriate conventional sanctions against themselves. British political history is full of instances when ministers and other public men have not hesitated to be their own impartial judges. They had been known to have resigned from office, even when their colleagues had honestly thought that no violation of the Code had taken place. That is to say, British public men would rather err on the side of over-rigidity and over-strictness, in the observance of the Code of Conduct, than on the side of lenity.

Here in Nigeria, such a sense of honour as is exhibited by public men in Britain and in most civilized countries is unknown. Public men will stick to office after they have committed the most heinous breach of public morality. In fact, in the dying months of the First Republic, the brazen and unconcealed commission of acts of depravity’ and of violent breach of public trust by ministers was regarded as the hallmark of power.

Revolution, if it stems from the just indignation of the people, is a very useful and salutary political instrument.. When it is successful, it consumes and cleanses the political Augean stable as nothing else  known to man can. But an Augean stable is an odious thing. Wherever it exists, it pollutes the atmosphere and threatens to suffocate human decency. It must not be allowed to recur in any country. For apart from its oppressive stench, the operation which is required to cleanse it - as we now know from practical experience and not merely from reading the histories of  other lands - is of such a major character that its repeated performance is sure to undermine the stamina of the country concerned, if it does not actually terminate its life.

It is, therefore, incumbent upon us to so organise and order our affairs as to ensure that the things which favour the undisturbed accumulation of filth - until it becomes so colossal as to warrant a revolution to remove it - do not exist. That is to say, either the occurrence of filth must be prevented or every bit or piece of it must be abated as soon as it occurs. Fortunately for us, we know the distinctive characteristics of these filthy articles so well that, with some application of mental effort, we can adequately provide against their recurrence or accumulation.

Our new Constitution should, therefore, contain detailed provision for rules of discipline of Ministers, Parliamentary Secretaries, Members of Commissions, Boards, and Corporations, judges, certain categories of public servants, and other persons holding positions of public trust.

(27) The appointment and removal of the members of the following Commissions should as far as possible be free from any taint or semblance of political influence or partial affection:

(i) the Public Service Commission;
(ii) the Judicial Service Commission; and
(iii) the Electoral Commission.

Until recently, enlightened persons in Nigeria were agreed that these three Commissions should have jurisdiction throughout the whole of the Federation. The point on which there was complete in articulation was the manner in which the Chairmen and Members of these Commissions should be appointed. From this, it would appear that the implied suggestion was that the old method whereby the Head of State made the appointment on the advice of the Prime Minister should remain.

If this is so, we beg most emphatically to differ. If these commissions are to be truly independent, impartial and just in the exercise of their functions, arrangements should be made whereby their chairmen and members would be appointed independently of the Executive, the Legislature, or any single individual. To this end, the Constitution should make provisions for the setting up of a Body which we would like to call the ‘College of Appointors’.The College should be composed of the following:

1. The President, who will be ex officio chairman.

2. The Vice-President.

3. The Regional Governors.

4. Retired Presidents, Vice-Presidents, and RegionalGovernors

5. Twenty persons representing each of the following bodies:

(i) Christian denominations and organisations;
(ii) Moslem denominations and organisations;
(iii) trade union organisations; “
(iv) Nigerian Union of Teachers;
(v) Nigerian Union of University Teachers;
(vi) professional’ bodies and organisations other than the Nigerian Bar Association;
(vii) the Nigerian Bar Association;
(viii)Chambers of Commerce and other commercial and industrial organisations;
(ix) Farmers’ co-operative societies and other Farmers’ organisations; and
(x) Traditional Chiefs.

(To be continued)

’

THESE and similar questions are not at all difficult to resolve. We could have tackled them here; but we consider that such an exercise involves too many minor details for the present discourse.As we stated at the beginning of this portion, it had been generally agreed until recently that the three Commissions which we have been discussing should have jurisdiction throughout the country-both at the Federal and Regional level .

The last nine months have witnessed a complete change in this climate of opinion. It is now being canvassed, with a considerable measure of success, that the Central and Regional Authorities should each have its own set of commissions. It is not our wish to join issue here on this change of front and the circumstances which have brought it about. All we would like to say is that the arrangement we have proposed is as applicable to the entire country as it is to each of the Authorities separately.

There should be three other Commissions as follows:

1. The Armed Forces Service Commission.
2. The Police Service Commission.
3. The Prisons Service Commission.

The members of each of these Commissions should be appointed by the President, acting in accordance with the advice of the Vice-President. If the latter is to discharge his responsibilities of maintaining the peace and safe-guarding the security of the Federation, he must be given a free hand in dealing with the affairs of these three powerful arms of the country’s order and security.

It may be feared that the Head of Government might employ these executive arms of the Government to oppress and victimise his political opponents. Our considered view  is that  this would be possible only if he tore up the Constitution or deliberately violated such of its provisions as we have already suggested. If he did this, certain unpleasant consequences would inevitably and inexorably follow. But if he observes the provisions of the Constitution and the other Organs of the Government do the same, the citizen should have nothing to fear from the provisions which we have here proposed.

Above all, the suddenness and total successes of the coup and counter-coup of 1966 have taught a grim lesson which no future Head of Government in Nigeria will ignore.


(28) The three Organs of the State, namely, the Legislature, the Executive, and the Judicature, should, as far as possible, be made to function separately from and independently of one another. In other words, there should be separation of powers.In Chapter 5, we have dealt fully with the doctrine of separation of powers, and we have nothing more to add to what we have said on the subject. This much, however, we venture to say. We believe that in all the proposals which we have made in the preceding pages for a new Constitution for Nigeria, we have tried scrupulously to adhere to the principle of separation of powers.

(29) Nigeria should be a secular State.The existing association between the composite State of Nigeria together with some constituent States in the country on the one hand, and the Church on the other, is embarrassing and should be completely severed. It is a British custom which is, to say the least, apish, unreflecting, and discriminatory for us to preserve.Why should there be State Services at all?

Why should the clergy participate in the opening of Parliament or Regional Legislature? And that reminds us: why should the judges also participate in such an opening, which is a purely political function? Why should there  be any religious Services at all in connection with the opening of the assizes? And why, if such Services are necessary, are they not held in Churches other than those of the Anglican confession, and in the Mosques as well?

The whole thing is ludicrous! God is everywhere; and His ever-ready responsiveness to our supplications is not confined to any Church or place.To be sure, it is a very good thing indeed for the Churches, the Mosques, and other religious gatherings, to pray, from time to time, for the success of the Government of the day, if they are convinced that its plans and programmes are good and promotive of the welfare and happiness of the people. But it would be wrong, and of course futile, for them to pray, as they did in recent years, for the success of a manifestly satanic administration. For the reformation of such a government, they certainly must pray. By participating in State Ceremonies, and getting too much involved in official functions, some religious leaders find it difficult to speak out with freedom, forthrightness, and courage, in condemnation of what they know to be evil in the doings of the State.

We have just been talking of separation of powers among the organs of the State. We strongly believe that, as far as possible, there should be separation of activities between the State on the one hand, and religious bodies on the other. By this same token, we think that it is time the Judges kept or were kept far away from such State Ceremonies as the opening of Parliament or Regional Legislature.

(To be continued)

Katsumoto: It's like another slave fighting with Kunta Kinta for the right to be called Tobi on the basis that he arrived at the slave farm 1 hours before Kunta.

What does it matter what slave name you are given, you have just lost your damn ?

'will you shuddup!!

Hey Obiagu, erm, I mean....Tobey,

ignore Katz abeg, no mind am.....he's a badd a*s.

Ogoni militant: And you are happy about that, you are happy with the injustice mated to us. Its only God that will fight this fight.

We are even stronger in spirit now if you don't know
The Niger Delta people will be liberated. Did you ever think the president can come from this Region? That's God worrking.

....what a foolish sentiment!

How did you go from a position of strategic preparation just two or three responses ago to that of a defeated ego here calling for God's intervention?

Ogoni militant: If you have problem with Biafra go and settle it with thema. Am not biafra niether am I Ladipo mkt here. I don't have any stake in the two.

Am talking about your tribe to stand for your Republic of Oduduwa. Lagos has been invaded you don't have control over lagos economically, politically yes for now but the way things are going you are going to loose that and you are not worried.

We talking about republic of Niger Delta here which an Ogini man will be the first president.

Fight for your own republic.

The ruling nation and the subjec tribes in Lagos know who they are.....taxes are paid and real estate and land improve in worth. Why dismiss a self generating revenue formula that has zero cost to the government?

Ogoni militant: I know you foolish yoruba bigots will not support. But Tell you that you guys will be the biggest loosers.

Fight for your own freedom, you guys are slaves to your Hausa masters that killed Ken Saro. You are even slaves to Igbos that have occupied all your cities.

Keep asking foolish question.

.....who is a worse looser than the person whose house sits on a wealth of oil wells and the revenue is shared and enjoyed by others to erect mansions while his own house is dilapidated and littered with carbon waste?

To those saying Yoruba and Igbo have a common enemy, I disagree. Yoruba has no enemy in Nigeria. There are those plotting our downfall, Igbos for instance.

If Igbos believe as you continue to clamor thst Hausa/Fulani is your enemy, then find a solution to resolve the enmity between you and Hausa. Stop scheming for a coalition force with Yoruba to battle Hausa.

The following from ACM is an example.

There is no doubt that the true enemy of Ndigbo are Hausa/Fulani oligarchy. But they cannot do much if Yoruba withdraws their support for them.

Yoruba has had a relationship with Hausa that predated their conquest by Fulani of their conversion into Islam. Yoruba and Hausa/Fulani had an interwoven connection that predated the whiteman governmen.....ptedated Nigeria.. Prior to the whiteman and formation of Nigeria there is zero record of an Igbo ethmic group in Yoruba history. We have to relate with you because we share Nigeria with you. Since the history of Nigeria Hausa/Fulani has not stepped foot in our territory and wantonly killed our leaders in a coup. Hausa/Fulani has not marched boots and gunsin an ambitious move to plant its flag in our land. Igbo has done worse insults to us than Hausa/Fulani.

Hausa/Fulani is not Yoruba enemy and our rrlationship with them is far beyond what you call support....there is a bond. The disposition on that relationship is a Yoruba call andnot within the judgement call of Igbo.

Ogoni militant: Ogoni people are already stategising to leave this hopeless country. We have the right to choose to leave.

I don't even see myself as a Nigerian. I hope that answers your question

Somewhat...

lastpage: Sharrap! LAGOS will be the new Capital of that Biafra!

Thats why!

Lastpage!

....thats exactly what i thought...you guys are going to setup a Biafran government in exile with headquarters in Lagos.

As long you pay tax and your leaders behave....cool.

noblezone: The Igbo Youth Movement, IYM, said it has concluded plans to drag a former military head of state, General Yakubu Gowon to International Criminal Court, ICC, over the role he played in alleged murder of over two million Igbos during the Nigerian Civil War which lasted from 1967 to January 1970.

The group said they were angered by the insensitive and irresponsive statements made by General Gowon in Minna, Niger State on issues that pertained to the civil war over the weekend and therefore took the decision to drag him to ICC at The Hague.

President of the organisation, Mr. Elliot Uko told newsmen after an emergency meeting that Gowon’s statement implies that he and late Obafemi Awolowo have no regrets on their infamous roles and attitude to the Igbos during and shortly after the Nigeria civil war.

Uko said: “Since he wants to go to ICC, he will go. We will ask the court to hold him responsible for the greatest human tragedy of the last century, second only to the holocaust.”

The Igbo youths said they expected apologies from Gowon and not insults and unrepentant defiant attitude that he displayed in Minna saying, “if he has no regrets, it means he will do same over and over again.”

The IYM president stated that Gowon’s comment has muddled the respect Nigerians have for him adding that the shameful and despicable conduct of Gowon and his lieutenants during the war has remained a sore point in the modern history of Africa.

“The blood of over two million women and children murdered by Gowon will continue to cry out for Justice until General Gowon and cohorts are brought to justice at the ICC,” the IYM president stated.

http://nigerianpilot.com/index.php/component/content/article/39-africa/7069-igbo-youths-drag-gowon-to-icc

.....these people talk as if ICC is an ibo council of elders.

We are going to drag you infront of our elders snd watch how they humiliate and deal with you...and sentence you to hang.

oh God, smh

"America opens its doors for Igbo and Hausa speakers, why"?

Oh, right here....