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They are like mexicans....everytime you repatriate them they are back crossing the border.

eGuerrilla: Great idea. Finally Lagos state might actually get a clear indication of its population spread.

Weve been hoping Fashola will get to it quicker.....we need to have everyone ID'd particularly that we are talking abiut integrating economic development in Yorubaland. Lagos will be the lab for a new way of economic filteration.

FreeGlobe: there is nothing like a united Nigeria. Nigeria is divided, keep speaking from your anus.


where are the mods when you need them, lets have this silly thread locked please.

Thats not the conclusion in Massob.....sounds more like Biafra is "dead" and Nigeria is alive!

Its for security and safety and as well to insure that the government is able to respond and aid people in a situation of emergency or rescue.

Why yanmiri people dey fear Lagos ID....una get something to hide?

Onlytruth: There is a submission I made sometime in the past, some months back, about the need for any Igbo leader online to know how to read and write Igbo. I dropped that idea in the past but I have been thinking more and more about it.
No matter what anyone may say, Ndigbo are a unique people in the Nigerian nation. There are certain things that we can only be compared to the Jews. FACT.
Then I started to wonder about which Jewish leader or leader of a Jewish group could not understand Hebrew or read Hebrew text. I started scratching my head.

Igbo is not some extinct language spoken in the past (Thank God that has not happened yet!). It is a language spoken by at least 40 million Nigerians, BUT it is dying.
Should we then help to bury it by having leaders who cannot read or write Igbo? I THINK NOT.

Anyone who cannot read or write Igbo can learn to do so within ONE YEAR. Yes it is very possible. I have seen Alj_Harem learn and write Igbo within few months!
So, I believe it is a deliberate choice for an Igbo son or daughter to "not be able to write Igbo". There are books and there are methods of learning Igbo.

We should be helping the language survive, not helping it to die!

Our future leaders in this and other forums should be Igbo speaking and Igbo writing.

History will judge all of us on this issue.

Gotta go. I have to earn my living.

I'll be back later.

Dont get carried away in your new found role....remember that NL is an open forum and with contingents of various tongues, many of which are non-igbo. If you want an Igbo only forum you already have that in ENYI, take your discussions over there. In NL, you will observe the protocol which serves to unite, not divide, Nigerians of all background.

Hey PointB, would it hurt you to move this nonsense out of here and go clear up the mess in ENYI ?

This is bad reflection on ndigbos politics. It says a lot about your disunity....just few days ago BZM s attempt to resuscitate Biafra was muzzled by Massob and all the fanfare that went into the declaration was killed. Now you guys online are split into factions and arguing. This is an eyesore.....move it to ENYI please.

.....lol, should i call this the resurgence of 4play? Long, long time dude

Ive watched and read comments on this thread and kept quiet hoping someone would come up with a truly reconciling idea for this election fallout, Im dissapointed in the ideas so far tabled to resolve it.

Eze Onlytruth, I thought you guys have resolved to erase the distinction line between an osu and freeborn. If you are sincere, whats wrong with throwing this Ezenwanyi position open and non-discriminating? Do you want a Igbo society or a circle of Igbo freeborn and commanded strictly by pedigree?
I suggest as a recinciliation move and a true demonstration of faith that you should honor your commitment towards a progressive society for ndigbo. I stand with the osus and hope you effect changes to admit them into the foldof your NL leadership. An osu as Ezenwanyi would kick start the transformation that every Igbo man and woman has so passionately written in favor of lately.

What were they accused of?

I agree with Alaafin.

IN most countries of the world, particularly in Britain which serves as our model in  many things, a Code of Conduct has no force of law. Ministers and other persons holding positions of public trust are left in their deliberate judgment to observe the rules of discipline laid down in the Code. In other words, it is up to public men to determine when they believe they have offended against any of the rules, and to take swift steps to invoke appropriate conventional sanctions against themselves. British political history is full of instances when ministers and other public men have not hesitated to be their own impartial judges. They had been known to have resigned from office, even when their colleagues had honestly thought that no violation of the Code had taken place. That is to say, British public men would rather err on the side of over-rigidity and over-strictness, in the observance of the Code of Conduct, than on the side of lenity.

Here in Nigeria, such a sense of honour as is exhibited by public men in Britain and in most civilized countries is unknown. Public men will stick to office after they have committed the most heinous breach of public morality. In fact, in the dying months of the First Republic, the brazen and unconcealed commission of acts of depravity’ and of violent breach of public trust by ministers was regarded as the hallmark of power.

Revolution, if it stems from the just indignation of the people, is a very useful and salutary political instrument.. When it is successful, it consumes and cleanses the political Augean stable as nothing else  known to man can. But an Augean stable is an odious thing. Wherever it exists, it pollutes the atmosphere and threatens to suffocate human decency. It must not be allowed to recur in any country. For apart from its oppressive stench, the operation which is required to cleanse it - as we now know from practical experience and not merely from reading the histories of  other lands - is of such a major character that its repeated performance is sure to undermine the stamina of the country concerned, if it does not actually terminate its life.

It is, therefore, incumbent upon us to so organise and order our affairs as to ensure that the things which favour the undisturbed accumulation of filth - until it becomes so colossal as to warrant a revolution to remove it - do not exist. That is to say, either the occurrence of filth must be prevented or every bit or piece of it must be abated as soon as it occurs. Fortunately for us, we know the distinctive characteristics of these filthy articles so well that, with some application of mental effort, we can adequately provide against their recurrence or accumulation.

Our new Constitution should, therefore, contain detailed provision for rules of discipline of Ministers, Parliamentary Secretaries, Members of Commissions, Boards, and Corporations, judges, certain categories of public servants, and other persons holding positions of public trust.

(27) The appointment and removal of the members of the following Commissions should as far as possible be free from any taint or semblance of political influence or partial affection:

(i) the Public Service Commission;
(ii) the Judicial Service Commission; and
(iii) the Electoral Commission.

Until recently, enlightened persons in Nigeria were agreed that these three Commissions should have jurisdiction throughout the whole of the Federation. The point on which there was complete in articulation was the manner in which the Chairmen and Members of these Commissions should be appointed. From this, it would appear that the implied suggestion was that the old method whereby the Head of State made the appointment on the advice of the Prime Minister should remain.

If this is so, we beg most emphatically to differ. If these commissions are to be truly independent, impartial and just in the exercise of their functions, arrangements should be made whereby their chairmen and members would be appointed independently of the Executive, the Legislature, or any single individual. To this end, the Constitution should make provisions for the setting up of a Body which we would like to call the ‘College of Appointors’.

The College should be composed of the following:
1. The President, who will be ex officio chairman.
2. The Vice-President.
3. The Regional Governors.
4. Retired Presidents, Vice-Presidents, and RegionalGovernors
5. Twenty persons representing each of the following bodies:
(i) Christian denominations and organisations;
(ii) Moslem denominations and organisations;
(iii) trade union organisations; “
(iv) Nigerian Union of Teachers;
(v) Nigerian Union of University Teachers;
(vi) professional’ bodies and organisations other than the Nigerian Bar Association;
(vii) the Nigerian Bar Association;
(viii)Chambers of Commerce and other commercial and industrial organisations;
(ix) Farmers’ co-operative societies and other Farmers’ organisations; and

(To be continued)

[quote author=ndu_chucks]It is interesting that you actually believe that Anthroposophy well documents the idea that “an inner intuition guides the individual’s feel through the metaphysical”. The founder of Anthroposophy, Rudolf Steiner, thought of his Anthroposophy as a "spiritual science." He taught that there is a kind of spiritual perception that works independently of the body and the bodily senses.

Pray tell, how did you and other Anthroposophists, document this “spiritual science” or the concept that the will and not the brain “contains the human endowment for making choices and every living human is credentialed to live his/her will” [/quote]Documentation of spiritual science will be answered in a response attached to next quotation.

In response to this quotation, when you go into official contracts or attach your signature to a written document or swear to an oath of duty or obligation society is counting on you to do so "willfully" and without duress. The society hopes that at the instance of your commitment, the final point of decision making, you will put your fickle brain aside so your being can understand the full weight of responsibility you are undertaking as a member of society and humanity.

When a person is called into court docket to adress the court every statement he/she makes is processed with their brain but their truthfullness or otherwise is solicited through the will.

In everyday conversation we use the word "I will" as a determinant for what the person intends or does not intend.

You are confusing thought processing, which happens in the brain, with choice and decision making which happens in the will.

This is supported by many holy books and scriptues and manuscripts of nature.

The Ifa corpus
The Baghadvagita
The Bible
The Quran
The Torah

They all and independently address the will and implore mankind that the will is the voice of the conscience.

This talk started from fairness to Igbos and how we are massaging their egos with consolation prices instead of dealing with them in fairness and conscientiously. I think we shiuld not go too far away from that issue.

The truth is, this is just another theoretical gobbledygook with no scientific or even non-scientific basis for its acceptance.

I am surprised that a well educated person will make this quoted statement. I am glad you know about Steiner, you must alsi be familiar with biodynamic farming. Biodynamic farming is practiced in America and in their new craze for organic farm products consumers are demanding products grown on Steiner based methods.

You see our fore fathers practiced biodynamic farming. We abandoned it because any method of living that did not receive white man's endorsement is a way of livig that is ungodly and it will corrupt our academic successes if we did not keep a distance from it. Well, breaking news.......the whiteman has finally seen the benefits of biodynamic farming, thanks to anthroposophy and models introduced by Steiner. Slowly, the affection of whiteman for biodynamic grown products will trickle down and find its way to Africa and we can be led back to using farming methods our forefathers used to enrich the soil, enrich crop and enrich and nurture the body for sustained health and longevity.

So because you do not know about these things does not in any way make it a "theoretical gobbledygook".

The idea that there exists a physical or non physical part of humans called the will, or the “heart” which is responsible for the choices made by man, and that the will/heart is solely responsible for this, and not the brain, as you stated, is another boldface lie.

FYI: The heart is nothing but a pump, which works just like your ordinary water pump in a water treatment plant. Like the said pump, if it is primed daily, its efficiency improves and it lasts longer – this is why we are told to exercise (prime the heart) so that we can live longer.

Feelings, choices, e.t.c. have absolutely nothing to do with the heart. This is the reason why the first words to come out of the mouths of people who have just received heart transplants, to their spouses, is “I love you”. You see, the brain was not replaced so the love remains. Secondly, even when all organs of the body are still fully functional but the brain is not (brain death), it becomes impossible to love, to feel, make choices, and have free will.

I laugh at your analogy of the heart and a water pump. Is it not amazing to you that the treatment of the life sustaining liquid, in this case water, took its inspirational design from another life sustaining organ in the human body?

Exercise is not what sustains the heart my friend. Western education has sold it to you that by exercising you promote health and longevity. This is because they live a lifestyle that move them around on multiwheeled vehicles and household gadgets that mechanically perform chores that otherwise encourage bending, stooping, stretching, kneeling, twisting and so on......they do not get enough of kinetic motion in their body so they supplement it with exercise. Separate whiteman bullshyyt from natural truth and stop preaching nonsense.

No one has been in the mind of brain dead patients to report back wheyher or not they have feelings. Your statement on that issue is nothing but a conjecture. Little children whose brain are yet to develop respond to love. A baby smiles in response to show of affection even it has yet to recognize its relative presence.

Heart transplant is a physical change and does not impact the will ir the love or feelings in the human being undergoing the transplant. You are pushing into human sacredness which I already said i will not bore people with. So I will stop here and not go deeper.

Again, if we are to take your line of reasoning to its logical conclusion, all prisoners should be released, ASAP. Their crimes were not their faults; after all, these criminals had no say whatsoever on the composition of their genome or brain design.

Thats not at the root of my point on why we deny salvation to offenders. I am yet to hear of a mob anywhere in Nigeria setting fire to a murderer but plenty people have been set ablaze and killed for petty offense like stealing. We are yet to set ablaze a rapist but we will set ablaze a man caught stealing bread. No one should summarily killed without first getting a chance to be saved and redeemed through the court system. This is how orderliness in society should work. People will understand the imperative of orderliness if they comprehend how their own being work in exchange with that of others in society. This knowledge of self discovery is blocked by a new age mantra of "fact building", "fact checking, "fact sourcing".........truth is abandoned for illusive facts and models. The need to respond warmly and conscientiously to issues where even an ethnic populatiin is almost completely displaced from its own homeland. The overwhelming presence of Igbo in West and North itself is a cry for help to reintegrate. The sacrifice to them is the homeland they abandined......what sacrifice would we make to help reintegrate them and resettle them back on their ancestral land?

The West is sacrificing a lot to this cause, the North is not.....there are many ways in which Igboman can be a Nigerian again and consolation appointments is a very small part of that. How can mallam chucks help reintegrate the Igboman into Nigeria and into their soil?

I hope you read your own signature and reflect before you respond to this challenge.

Obiagu1: Southern Nigeria is as shown in the map below. Anyone not in the area in blue is not a Southern Nigerian.



www.nairaland.com/attachments/799572_Countries_in_Nigeria_1900_pngae5a5c9931b6bc3903a8e6d3854bdde5

Thank you Obiagu.

So how did Southern Nigeria come about?

Obiagu1: Nigeria entered official records or became official in 1900 when 2 Nigerias were created viz: Northern Nigeria and Southern Nigeria.
Any one not in these 2 territories in 1900 is not a Nigerian. In Nigerian term, any one from these 2 territories is an indigenous Nigerian.

Further territories were added and some left. Added territories are Yorubaland, Northern Cameroun (Adamawa) and Southern Cameroun but Southern Camerounians left.
Anyone from these added territories is not an "original" Nigerian.

So then help me understand futther, what is Southern Nigeria?

Obiagu,

Do me a favor and define Nigeria. What is Nigeria?

[quote author=ndu_chucks]You have now turned philosophical on me, but you did not take your line of reasoning here, to its logical conclusion. Since truth matters more than facts as you posited, I’m sure you’ll agree with me that it is truthful to state that no one had any say on how his/her brain was wired during creation.[/quote]If you want to dig that deep into it I am happy to share that the brain itself has zero reference at time of birth and the action of the individual through the material world is directed , with growing age, from an external reference point.

In contrast or in counter-balance (paired and opposite), an inner intuition guides the individual's feel through the metaphysical. I should not bore you or anyone with it but this aspect of human make-up is well documented in anthroposophy. The will, not the brain, contains the human endowment for making choices and every living human is credentialed to live his/her will.

I hope you will broaden your understanding of human nature and begin to respond to human needs from your heart, as opposed to giving a text book speech from your brain.

Additionally the wiring of the brain affects one’s intelligence and choices. Thus grown thief and unemployed man who stole and violated a social order made a choice to do so, based on the wiring of his brain which he had nothing to do with. What you therefore should be satisfied with, in the name of truthfulness, is the release of all criminals from prison, since they became criminals because of choices they made, due essentially, to the wiring of their brains – wiring which they did not put in place.

Mankind is weak and vulnerable when he lives by his will alone. He needs divine salvation. In a social order, justice and fairness is part of this salvation. You will never hear any learned and wise jurist commit to delivering equity...never! Only foolish ones promise equity in justice.

Criminals in prison had been in front of the justice and in all fairness are serving a sentence. That is the salvation of a working and healthy society teaching and uplifting the common bond of humanity in us and that is where truth lies, not in releasing imprisoned criminals whom you believe are victims of impulsive choices.

I am not advocating bad behavior and you trivialized my point by juxtapositiining it with the motives of convicted criminals. My point is that our society has become desensitized from the passions and fire of living a inner prompting to do the right thing. We are so much sold to the idea that "facts" are a path to salvation; which it's not. This immunity is incremental, the tighter we wind and wrap up in "fact-living", the further away we distance from reality. Some peoole are so wrap tight in fact living that they mistake realities around them and mis-label them "facts", when actually they are staring at truth.

When we lynch and or douse a hungry jobless man in flammable liquid and set him ablaze for stealing food, we deny him salvation. The denial in us is brought about by the suppression of the once burning flame and passion to serve and preserve......fact worshipping has robbed our humanity to protect its higher ideals. We need a balanced view and a balanced sheet on how we account for facts and truths in our living societl.

Don’t try to dodge by claiming that you do not believe in creationism,

Creationism,......What is that? I dont even know what you are talking about.

The above is filled with a bunch of bullsh*t that I don’t even know where to begin.

Alhamdulillah, you saw and responded to it.

I agree with you when you state that the Igboman in Alaigbo has to struggle to fit in, depending on his birth status as an osu or freeborn, but I ‘ll add that the Igboman is as sheltered in Yorubaland as in Hausaland. Infact, the Igboman enjoys more economic freedom in the North than anywhere else in Nigeria.

I ought to demand your eye for such a daring fabrication equating true liberal ideals in the West to conditional freedoms in North.

Can Igboman open stores within the birni walls and gates?
Can Igboman sell pork within the birni walls and gates?
Can Igboman obtain license and sell liquor in birni?

In West Igboman is not restricted to Sabo as he is in Northern Sabon-Gari.

To support your erroneous claim that the Igboman is not as sheltered in the North as in the SW, you people sight sectarian violence and BH type violence against the Igbos up North. You conveniently fail to mention that more Northerners suffer and die as a result of the said violence than Igbo/Yorubas/ and others, combined.

The sectarian violence itself is an offshoot of the intolerance for Igboman and what he represents. The killing of Northerners is a necessary housekeeping to ordain a new creed and awakening on the home turf....it is selective and targeted at shaping a voluntary turnover for new community conscience. So it is motivated for emergence of a new ideological identity and belonging and to the extent that Northerners cheer it then it serves as a patriotic cause for them. Igbos have no stake in it and are political victims. They ought to start collecting reparations from the FG from the day it declared state of emergency in North uptill the day the status is lifted and security is returned and they are no longer victims of civil discrimination.

This is the cause one would expect to find dede and onlytruth fighting and advocating online, instead they continously display their moronic immaturity and incapacity to match up with others on national politics.

Why do you think there are more Igbos in the North than in any other region in Nigeria or the world for that matter?

....of what value is their quantity if while there their quality is curtailed?

It is an insult to Ndiigbo for you to come up here and state that Lagos and Fashola stood up for Igbo rights when they just deported Igbos from Lagos to the East a few weeks ago.

God forbid that Fashola or any Yoruba governor should stand up for Igbo rights. Our Governors stand up for Yoruba rights. Yoruba customs embraces unity in diversity......nonYorubas on Yoruba soil enjoy by extension the same rights that our Governors defend for the soil.

The deported Igbos are risks to the liberties and well being of the well intentioned and productive Igbo in Lagos. Fashola had to filter out the contaminants and send them out before they spoil the whole basket. He did so indiscriminately......Yorubas were also sent out . No Northern Governor had ever sent away a terrorist or jihadist for proven atrocities against well meaning and tax paying Igbos living on their soil. Instead, they watch and allow jihadists chase Igbos back to their home states.

The above is another proof that you belong to the elite who suffers from a 'disconnect from the masses'. How can you state, with a straight face, that Almajiri poverty is a voluntarily chosen path or self inflicted?

The victims of the bad implementation of the Almajiri system in Nigeria are kids, youths who are powerless and are typically forced into the badly implemented system. You elites should be ashamed of yourselves for not standing up for these children who are used, abused, dumped, and programmed to become poor and tools of politicians, and terrorists, alike.

The Almajiris are the most marginalized Nigerians and it is high time, you rich ones started helping them out. They are Allah’s children and sooner or later, you people will be punished for perpetrating all these atrocities against the Almajiris or for enabling the said atrocities.

You continue to push almajiri issue as a national problem.....I will continue to counter it as a regional problem.

I will not go into the root meaning and social role of almajiri, I covered the topic twice on nl so far....the last time was around when the debate on islamic banking was hot and i opened a topic to talk on almajiri.

Almajiri is intimate with Sharia and is an outlet for one of the five pillars of Islam, that of zakat or charity or tithe, to serve the community at large. It is also a safety net for wealth redistribution......a necessary anchor for dissipating social rebellion. The Hausa muslim scholars and Yoruba muslim scholars know what almajiri is and they know its value in the community. Christians are unaware because for most part they close their mind to anything Islamic. There are many books and research papers in the public domain on almajiri. If i say Dalai Llama as a boy was an almajiri some of you will call me conspiracy theorist. Tibetan acolytes, before they graduate into monks, pass through an order very similar to the almajiri order. Dangote's grandfather, Alhaji Sanusi Dantata was an almajiri.....we have had two presidents, in fact three, that were in almajiri order as young boys. So there is no shame in being an almajiri.....but because Nigerians were educated backwards we put the wrong priorities on our head and champion failures instead of success.

For the purpose of clarity here I want to declare for you why the almajiri order must remain a Northern issue.

If the Southerner should fall asleep and allow the North to make almajiri a national institution, then by default it will carry a mandate and serve as a parallel alternative or, perhaps a head start, into elementary schools.

For purpose of troubleshooting, the following must at minimum be expected in every state of the federation.

1. almajiri madrassahs or schools
2. state funding or sponsorshio
3. curriculums designed in alingment with sharia
4. faculty of muslim scholars only
5. study based (fixed location, no migration and street begging stopped)
6. tiered-level academic instruction and advancement (competition between arabic and english for lesson delivery and communication)

The schools are already in operation in North. If proponents like _chucks are allowed to force this into becoming a national issue we will all co own the almajiri order. In that case, if that were to happen, it will not derail the Northern society, neither does it derail West, Yorubas are good at "live and let live", the East people will be mostly impacted because their state government and consequently their society must now support a sharia based program.

Dede and onlytruth are blind to these visions.....they are writing textbook grammar while cowherder is scheming to put sharia in alaigbo, by jihad or by a congressional bill.

This picture is an omen of things to come.....

Somebody said obtaining phd is a waste of time. Who is that? Identify yourself......raise your hand so i can spit in your face. yeye.

ayodele123: I agree that the graduates who applied are all failed minds, not that Nigeria is a failed country.
An MBA holder ought to set up his own business at the worst, not to apply to be a truck driver.
It is more honorable to set up a liquid soap production business with N10k than the trucking job they are applying for.
They went to school and graduated with the orientation that they must work for someone. That is the common problem in Nigeria.
A PHD applying for a trucking job? Shame on them all,failures!

There is an incentive in this offer for the self-emploment you advocate. The contract is indeed self emploment and After a year or two the truck onwership is transferred to their name.

To all you speaking negatively of a phd holder driving a truck, you lack vision.

The candidate only need to win the hauling contract, there is no contract ghat tie them to the steering. He/she can sublet the driving at a cheaper rate of wages to a professional driver for the two yr period. After transfer of trucj ownership the phd/masters candidate can then bid as a direct supplier with ghe parent company and multiply revenue......he has a free truck, a dependent driver and a distribution chain. He can drive his own truck if he so chooses and save on operation costs.

How do you grduates that wear your degree on your head think?

Desola:

oooh, im in trouble with iyalode. how do i redeem myself, will 5 heads of cow do?

Where is ndu_chucks to deliver nama.

Desola ma binu o.

Rrstricted on ONLY 475 out of over 9,000 access roads Somrthing is wrong!

@op,

What makes you think mikr obi is illuminati?

[quote author=Mr. Globe][size=16pt]Can we all accept that Niggeria is a failed country. Giant of Africa my foot[/size][/quote]While i agree with you on that statement, i refuse to attribute the report here as an indicator of failure.

Academic qualification is not a measure of manhood. It is necessary and important to have good education and professional expertise but far more important is the need to continue to dignify one's manhood. A gainful employment and income is nedded to achieve ghat.

We copy everyghing from US and Europe dont we? In both countries college graduates drive trucks. In a capitalist society poverty does not recognise college degree. Nigeria has chosen to live by American styled democracy, its time we accept American styled capitalist expectations. Its all about productivity and factors of generating revenue and profit.....nobody should give a hoot about a degree holder hauling cement or cattle across the country roads.

Look at that picture very well and the names on it.

Ibrahim Babajide Obanikoro......his initials. IBO is one reason igbo people all over Lahos are backing him. igbos fall easily for sentiments attached to names. Its why they voted Gej....his Azikiwe name. They have argued that Gej's vp, Namadi Sambo is indeedd Nnamdi and not Namadi.

If it happens that Benjamin Adekunle's middle name is Ifeanyi, Igbos will call him their hero.

In politics, Igbos are like harlots.

youngies: Your sarcasm wasn't particularly funny

Have you not heard about BZM? What does the Z stand for?

Death is death...whether by poison like awo or by aids like ojukwu, all na death.

Igboboy, abi i lie?

dayokanu: Dem go dey beg for visa to come in

No mind dem....dem dey yab Fashola tollgate, they will see mother of all tollgates when that day comes. In fact I want to be the one in charge of the tollgate..... Dem neva see, yanmiri go holler!

berem: for wetin? I dey craze? Nothing in this world is gonna stop me from being a Full Blooded Igbo! Even if I live outside my native homeland,that does not warrant me to deny where I come from.

Dont worry about your blood aggregate, that issue will be handled separately. I am asking you a political question. If we create Yoruba sovereingty would you be interested in citizenship?

berem: and so what if its owned by an igbo? How many hotels and nightclubs do yorubas have in festac town? Do you know how much those hotels pay as tax to the local government? was it the owner of the hotel that told the councillor to stab the girl? Abeg am not ready for any tribal bashing if that's where you are driving at.

Did I not say an igboman will be at the root of this palava....I knew it!

I bet you the club security guards are igbo as well, right?

caseless: Did i jst read 'they will be sent to conflict zone'? If i hear say i join....who they wan send go iraq or afghanistan, me? For weye? they will send them to iran cos isreal and the iranian govt will soon engage in war over iranian nuclear programme and u knw wat US(isreal' closest ally) can do in such a situation.

...well guess what, its time to walk-the-talk! Time for ndigbo to prove their Jewish ancestry and kinship with Israel....beside enlistment in US Army, they should enlist enmasse in Israeli Defense Force as well. They must defend their ancestral homeland against Persia.

[quote author=ndu_chucks]There is nothing insulting about stating facts. The article looked at appointments in federal bureaus alone but does not state that that is the only way to look at the issue of reintegration, in order to reach a meaningful and reasonable conclusion.[/quote]Why is it every Nigerian wants to hide under the cloak of facts ? What is it with our obsession on flashing out facts....it is as if by so doing our responsibility to the society is once and for all fulfilled and we can absolve our conscience of the guilt and inhumane reality that sorround us.

There is a reason a grown and unemployed man would go steel food to eat. The "fact" that he has commited theft and therefore violated a social order does not give the society a license to humiliate and lynch or burn him alive. Some would argue he should beg for money or food to eat.

Can we begin to state the "truth" for a change? If this article had done that they would have been more selective and erred on the side of responsible reporting than to throw out a narrow viewpoint which as you have correctly identified is one of many ways to assess and report the reintegration.

What do they now expect, for Igbos to give gratitude for getting appointments which in first place should not carry any ethnic restrictions?

Its like a father expecting his belligerent son to show gratitude that his name is included in the will. That's his right by birth.......its not a titled privilege.

So oga chucks, how can the author of this article help promote responsible journalism and the spirit of truth and reconciliation for the.path forward?

This does not open up dialogue on rights and assembly, or any other constitutionally provided right. There is no need to dialogue on this matter since the Igbo man enjoys those constitutional provisions as much as any Nigerian. I'm sure you know that the rights of the Igbos to assemble were not infringed upon when some of them, specifically members of the Biafra Zionist Movement, a group which had announced its plan to re-declare the Republic of Biafra in Enugu, recently demonstrated in Lagos while criminally displaying the biafran flag.

I remind you that they were allowed to enjoy their constitutional rights to assemble by the authorities. It was an Igbo group, MASSOB, which took the law in its own hands and abducted leaders of the protest.

Contrary to this belief of equal rights, I do want to share with you that the Igbo man suffers the most unfortunate outcome when talking about civil rights and protection for personal safety. In truth and with no prejudicial judgement I declare to you that Yorubaland offer to the Igbo man a far greater shelter and rest of mind and spirit than he would expect to get in his own home turf.....and not to mention the conditional tolerance he can expect in North. Igboman in Yorubaland has equal access and zero restrictions. Igboman in Alaigbo has to struggle to fit in, depending on his birth status as an osu or freeborn. We wont talk about Igboman in Hausaland......thats a hopeless risk.

So it is no surprise that the struggle for Biafran reawakening is held in Lagos with political fanfare and all. Fashola has repeatedly stood up to FG and advocated the democratic principle of free speech.....and through it all he had to endure insults from Igbos who see his emergence as a serious challenge for their 2015 opportunity to get the presidency, and so they attack his ideas.....but invariably they benefit from the promise of free and open speech curtailed and restricted everywhere else beside Yorubaland. If this rally had taken place in East the event would be raided by the Army and police and their oragnizers would not have been so lucky to enjoy the luxury of a soft and choreographed abduction designed to show proactive censure and self-correction and thereby keep boots and guns from coming for their heads.

Good questions. The Nigerians who are denied these "entitlements" are the poor, the unemployed graduates, the Almajiris and other down trodden fellow citizens. They come from all parts of the country but in greater number, up North. These denials, enable by elites such as yourself, because you fold your arms and allow the marginalization to continue, has resulted in the springing up of terrorists who hide behind fighting for these marginalized Nigerians. We all shouldn't be surprised if these groups enjoy the sympathy of the marginalized Nigerians you all choose to ignore.

The Igbos have been fully integrated back into Nigeria and they are succeeding in government and the private sector alike. They Igbos simply suffer from good leadership, just like the nation, at large, does.

Yes I agree that there need to be sustainable social programms designed to channel gainful employment and productivity. There are infrastructural projects that could be commissioned to uplift and repair the social soirit, but you see every intellectual and professional is preoccupied with protecting their relevance among their peers and associatea. They do this by looking for social issues to research and report on.....more data and tabulated facts upon the millions of facts already gathering dust in the archives and waiting for practical execution.

Do me a favor Alhaji Chucks and stop including almajiri in the list of those inneed of social support. There are two types of poverty, 1, circumstantial and involuntary; 2, voluntarily chosen path or self-inflicted. Almajiri is not involuntary.

Anyway, its always a pleasure to tackle the challenges you bring here.