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“Christmas Massacre and Nigeria’s unity,” read, “The bold and emphatic statement made by the bloody Boko Haram sect to wit that religious and traditional leadership in the North has collapsed, is a very poignant message.

“Boko Haram has finally succeeded in convincing the whole world that the North which prides itself in its ability to reign in all facets of its society and exact control is finally in total disarray.

“Boko Haram has proven without doubt, that the revered traditional institutions, religious leadership and political elite have lost control of northern Nigeria. It is pathetic!

Hence the intervention!!

Insecurity cannot be tackled by pumping even the total budget figure of N4.749 trillion into the security sector. Only social justice can guarantee security. For an end to the continuing Fun of lawlessness in the country occasioned by kidnappings, Boko haram, MEND etc, the wealth of the nation must be rescued from the control of a select few who find themselves in public office and this wealth must be directed towards freeing more than 70% of Nigerians from economic slavery imposed on them by their own leaders.

I smell coup!!

Here is how you opened the post. . . .

This is a thread to burst the outright lies being spread about the Maitatsine uprisings.
It is strange the way the rumour mill hijacks the laziest minds and turns them into efficient propagators of super-stretched tall tales and unenvieble gossip.
The duty of every morally and mentally robust citizen is setting the records straight.

I rose to the challenge of setting records straight.

@Negro_Ntns
Did you post that lengthy text for fun? I am at great pains to understand the "misconceptions" you claim to be clearing or even if 100% of what you posted is not lightweight hearsay that is irrelevant to this thread.

Please don't derail the thread

Beaf, you are the one having fun, not me. . . . You are insinuating with your post that Buhari is culpable in the transformation from Maitatsine to Boko. What I posted is not hearsay, my family lived in Kano at the time, I gave you a first hand account. Its relevance is to clear your falsehood.

Amen.

For anyone interested in more maitatsine story go here. Some of the accounts are misplaced but generally the author captured the fact as it was. If you don't know boko haram, read this account and you will have a intimate knowledge of what they stand for. The method of operation is same but on different scale.

[url]http://books.google.com/books?id=4X4oYdPpXGQC&pg=PA153&lpg=PA153&dq=maitatsine+in+fagge&source=bl&ots=tdIpM3kIx1&sig=xTIdkP-lFqjesYSj0VXgay-tkcA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=G8D6TpuwAdGbtwe7893QBQ&sqi=2&ved=0CB0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=maitatsine%20in%20fagge&f=false[/url]

lmao. . . Rhino, I know.  Trust me bruh, I can keep a sealed lip for centuries if my life will be spared that long.   This truth on the other hand needed to come out.  

I saw a picture of a little child held in the arms of a nurse.  A little child Rhino.  The skull was blown open, brain in view.  This is someone's child.  I dont know the parents, dont even know if they are alive or dead with the child. . . wherever they are I grieve with them in spirit.  There are certains savagery that are justified and which I will support and even maybe champion. . . but not an attack on a people that did me no wrong or attacked me.  People gathered to worship their GOD. . . .who is Boko to define which GOD people should worship?  

Men, for the sake of that child, let the truth out there and let these leaders get it together.  They dont need what I shared tonight, they know it.  In fact they know more than I know of this history.  What are they waiting on?

He said the moni accrued from oil shud be given equally annually to each potential nation in the nxt seven years to be used to develop themselves before the full take off of these nations. Nairalander, what is your opinion about obama's request

If its true its good but there is nothing Obama is saying to him now that we have not already suggested here, including the above quote. We talked about that formula. The problem is will he act, whether the message is from us or white house? The power behind the message coming from white house is monumental and assuming your account is true, then thats a fair hope and who knows, it might also console the Bokos knowing a delivery is coming.

Its simple, each time there is a bombing, Buhari's followers (and the man himself) begin hopping happily and telling huge lies about how Buhari quenched the maitatsine scourge.
Well, it is evident that the maitatsine cult was not defeated and persists until today. It is also evident that the maitatsine murderers killed between 1000 and 2000 people during Buhari's reign, armed with only sticks and stones. A figure that the modern boko haram, armed with bombs is far from matching.
If maitatsine animals could wipe out so many innocent souls under a military dictatorship, should the ex-dictator and his followers come out lying about how they snuffed out maitatsine? Instead, does it not raise suspicion that the animals were left to slaughter at will and their leader killed as a token as happened to boko harams Ustaz Muhammad?

Let me correct some misperception about the Maitatsine riots.

The Political Environment

1. The problem erupted during Shagari's regime as President - NPN
2.  Alex Ekwueme was the VP.
3.  Abubakar Rimi was Governor in Kano - PRP
4.  Abubakar Rimi was a liberal and though favored by the people, he was unpopular with the elites
5.  Rimi fell out of line with the Emir and divided Kano into two camps
6.  Rimi subsequently fell out of line with Aminu Kano and left PRP to join NPP.  
7. There was not a single member of the Governor's cabinet, male or female, that was not a college graduate.

The Social Environment

1.  Abubakar Rimi severed the annual homage rites enjoyed by the Emir of Kano from the sub Emirs in the provinces thereby clipping Ado Bayero's wings of dominion and power over the emirate.  
2.  Rimi made a number of drastic social changes that went counter to traditional values cherished in the conservative society - he challenged the value of keeping an harem locked up.
3.  He pushed liberal values of western ideas into schools and classrooms and made it unlawful to deny education to girls.
4. There is a wide perception of dissafection with the governor.

The Religious Environment

1.  Friday services in the Masjid became rallying ground for sermonizing about the bad government
2.  It was believed that Rimi was listening to Southern voices that wanted to accelerate development in North and they were doing that by tearing down the fabric of the culture and values.  The culture is Islamic and so it was viewed as an affront to Islam.  The forces of Evil against Good!   - George Bush must have taken from this playbook for his post 9/11 response.  
3.  Chatter and movement started underground within the city walls, particularly in Fagge.  Protests and marches to air grievances are ususally reserved for after Jumaat prayer.
4.  The abbattoir (slaughter house) was located in Fagge, in fact up the block from Dantata's family house.  
5.  Maitatsine's religious or cult compound was also located in that district of town but couple of blocks east of the abbattoir.
6.  Fagge is just on the outside of the city wall and so it has its red light zones and the shady black market pawn dealers areas and the bootleggers and all.  It is a close enclave of muslims from all parts of the Africa - Arabs from North, Malians, Senegalese, Ghanaians, Camerronians, Nupes, Yorubas, Sudanese, Chadians. . . all in there.  Its not uncommon for dialects to change from Hausa to Arabic in an instant.
7.  The people of Fagge knew the maitatsine cult members by their appearance. . . .to the untrained eye they are almajiris, but to those who know them they are distinguishable by their dressiing and manners.  Some of them do pan handle but for most part they set up tent on the roadside and preach sermons.
8.  There had been reports of missing and never found persons generally in the municipal area for some time but in the immediate months leading to the riots the number of dissapearance jumped up.  There were also rumors of sightings in the vicinity of the compound of people. . . strange people that didnt belong that are escorted in but no one see them exit.  
9.  Ado Bayero knew about maitatsine and was not comfortable at all with his presence in town, particularly couple of blocks outside the city gates and his Palace.  They contained him but kept an eye . . . a close eye on his acts.  
10.  The week before the riot broke out, on a tip off, police undercover went to surveul maitatsine and his boys.  They did not know who is who but believed if anyone has his ears to the ground and has leading information to share, the area almajiri would be the one.  Big error!
11.  The next day, few of the workers in the slaughter house were caught trying to sneak the facility's daggers out of premise.  It was allowed for individual to own personal dagger for skinning, cutting, of the meat and so on. . . . but the slaughter knives themselves were not allowed outside and in fact only specific trusted people were authorized to be in posession of it and only within premise.  Anyway, when they were stopped scuffle broke and before you could say stop. . . human blood was flowing where cow blood had been.  
12.  Police was not far away because they had a surveillance watch on. . . the boys were arrested at gun point and locked up.
13.  News got to Emir.  News also got to Maitatsine.  He demanded release of his boys.  In Hausaland police cannot enter and search a compound, it is forbidden because there are harems in there and so it was impossible for police to barge in and arrest or conduct search of the compound.  
14.  Tensions brewed in that few days and skirmishes between these boys and citizens were reported on and about town.
15. On Friday as people were heading to prayer, maitatsine boys were already showing signs of trouble and in fact there reports of them attacking people going to prayers.  This forced some people to return home and grab their own weapons before heading back out.  
16.  The central Jumaat mosque is right outside the Emir's palace.  You come out of the mosque, take about ten steps into a gate and you enter a long corridor that brings you out into the courtyard.
17.  When prayer ended word had gone around that Maitatsine boys were on the street butchering uniformed police and innocent civilians.  A line of defense formed around the palace and mayhem broke loose.   There were people sent to take attack to Fagge and match force and savagery with tatsine.  None of them came back alive. . . in fact the ones that saw what was happening in the distance turned their backs and fled back to the mosque.
18.  Maitasine boys had also formed their own defense line - 1, they blocked access to the abattoir and the adjoining sheep market, they blocked all access road into their enclave, they locked their compound down.  
19.  They were shooting arrows, they had swords, double-edged daggers and guns.  Then they had a powerful gaze that paralyzes their victims.  So that if one of them fixes his gaze into you it paralyzes your ability to escape and he just approach and finish the kill.  
20.  Bad and ruthless as mopo - mobile police - was at the time, you will see mobile police taking his uniform off to blend into crowd and flee.  
21. They attacked police stations and stole automatic power rifles.  


Anyway, this went on for over a month and the authorities played political games trying to score points to influence the electorates for upcoming elections.  They thought about bombing them from the air. . . dropping explosives into the compound from the air.  An air force jet would not match the desired precision but a helicopter could do it but then judging by the amount of arsenal and the grade of ammo they were using, it was best not to underestimate their ability to shhot down the hovering chopper, so the aerial bombardment idea was dropped.  At last the Army was deployed with tanks.  In the battle, even couple of soldiers lost their lives and had to retreat and reinforce.  They brought in an all terrain apc, the type that flattens anything and everything it steps on.  They came in from three directions. . . . before they made it to the compound courier already delivered news of their approach.  Maitatsine himself abandoned the coompound. . . there was a drainage canal that ran for miles behind his compund through the city.  He dropped into the canal.  A soldier spotted him and fired hitting his thigh or leg. . . . but then another soldier spotted him and gave chase to break the distance and attemnpt to capture him alive.  The two soon lost sight of him.  In their separate accounts given later, they said Maitatsine had to be using some supernatural power in his flight along the canal, he was not running at the pace of a sprinter but almost triple the speed and for a man mortally wounded in the leg it was beyond logic to explain how he made it that fast and covered that much distance as he did in such a little time.  They foillowed the blood trail and is how they found him already slumped dead.  

A search of the compound revealed two deep wells, no water but filled to the top with severed human heads.  Some were fresh. . . just slaughtered that morning.  These were the people that had dissapeared and not found. . . . the ones that went in but never came back out,   The number in the wells alone was over 1000, not counting numerous people killed on the streets over a month period.  It was revealed that he was using human blood for supernatural powers for himself and for other pwople who came to seek his help to get rich, or get women or power. .



Im sorry to bore you all with the lengthy narrative, forgive me. . . but we need to have the accurate history of what happend in past so we know how to counter it when a repeat demands action.   GEJ know what to do dissolve Boko. . . and the Northern Emirs know what to do to dissolve it.  The two need to work together and end Boko, we should stop playing politics with people lives.

not really, history books tends to talk about the inquisition or Spanish inquisition mostly with religion at times in Latin America but not so much with Africa, unless there is and we don't hear about it

I believe they exist. I cannot imahgine Portugal, being the first and only contact for many centuries before England came here, will not have vast collections of historical accounts. Do we have any one interested in learning Portuegese for historical research reasons. . . ? I doubt it!

To be real I never heard that but from my observation many Christians Yoruba's and traditionalist Yoruba's embrace it when it comes to historical preservation but Muslim Yoruba's I don't see that from them too much but as I said I not sure but I won't be surprised if Christians and Muslims have some negative views about the sculptures.

Yoruba Muslims have always been distant from anything thats considered sculpted art and moreso if its a traditional Yoruba myth god or even a symbol of customary beliefs such as the ibeji wood carving. Yoruba Christians were like that too but I have seen them changed due to new awareness in art appreciation. The Yoruba Muslims need to change this view and the best way to cause that change would be through the Quran itself. My fear is if you reveal the Quran to Yoruba Muslim you also risk converting them back to Ifa because the Quran acknowledges Ifa practitioners as "People of the Book". By keeping them away from that revelation you sustain the balance which currently exist in Yorubaland and we see as diversity of religion.

@poster,

Your sentiments are understandable. I feel your heart and I'm not going to discourage your initiative but the action you are calling for, reconciliation, is truly a political issue, not a cultural one.

Personally I see that you are talking from your childhood environment of growing up with other children in the community and forming bonds of trusts and the intimacies that exist and how that impacts your outlook on the Yoruba/Igbo relationship. You have failed to look at a general and much broader community of Yoruba/Igbo citizens. There are gains already made which would be reversed by going in the direction you demand. This is why I said its a political issue and far above what you have the capacity to alter. This should in no way affect your intimacies with your friends, continue to love and share with one another.

Beaf,

I saw lies, i saw Buhari and I saw Maitatsine in the heading. . . . so I thought I should see what you cooking. It smells good but can you make it more flavorable for tatse? Where does lies, buhari, maitatsine connect with Boko?

I understand the logical link that Boko is, possibly, a remnant of Maitatsine reformated. I am lost though on what Buhari has to do with that reformation? Can you please clarify.

I wonder if GEJ has seen the picture of this child in that very position. May the forces of creation and of destruction release itheir violent energies against Boko Haram, Amen.

Sorry to see, I can imagine the pain and anguish. We feel the pain even from our remote locations.  

In that second picture, it appears the victim may have had on a leather strap sandals. . . one of those Athenian looking ones. . . and the heat of the explosion fused it into her skin.  Is that right?  The scar left on her legs has a synnetrical pattern suggesting that.  I hope she does not lose her lower legs to infection.

May the souls of the dead rest in peace, Amen.

Solomon,  I dont even know what you are talking about buddy.  I have not said anything about Israelites here, and for your information YAHWEH does not translate to GOD.

Dont let anybody lie to you, there is no english equivalent for Yahweh, they needed a sense of meaning for it and so white man assigned God as a value.   The same way they assigned devil to ESU because they could not find a equivalent.  

I was born muslim and Islam has been in my bloodline since 1830.  We still have an 1800 copy of the Old Testament ( Torah), written in Arabic in the family library.  My great grandparents made it a duty that we will all be exposed to the Torah (Old Testament), Injil (Gospel) and the Quran.  So I have a different perpsective of religion and scripture than most people.  I dont speak religious dogma, I am just as comfortable reading the Bible as I am reading the Quran, I make no distinction between the two.  I am as comfortable in church as i am in masjid.  Its different for you guys and I understand that and while I will never defend the actions of Boko, I must defend the sanctity of the scriptural truths and Allah is a truth.

A psychosocial study of Igbo schizophrenic patients treated at a Nigerian psychiatric hospital

The majority (61%) were either illiterate or had low education while 52% were either unemployed or unskilled persons. Paranoid and catatonic schizophrenias were the commonest diagnostic subgroups.

they exhibit their schizo-paranoia very well here on NL. I have repeatedly preached healing to them. they refuse, instead they prefer to wallow in the genocide-victim bs. Their conscience is trapped! Trapped in a habitual cycle of abuse. When they have gone a while without abuse, they miss it and so start shyyt just to get flogged. When they are hacked in North, they come as refugees to West but they soon miss the Hausa abuse. . . and since we dont abuse them on ground they come to NL for the online version. When things cools off in North they troop back for more flogging and hacking.

They have problems and they dont even know it. Personally, I will prefer they are healed but in all honesty I am not ashamed of abusing them when they ask for it. I will flog a male or female okoro that missed being flogged by Hausa.

On special occasions such as the death of a juju priest, the Aro held cannibal feasts when hundreds were slaughtered. The victims were regarded as sacred and those who ate their flesh partook of the great god Chuku’s power.

ngodiga, i always tell you but you are too foolish to learn. . . .always putting your cart before the horse.  listen< i will tell you again. . . . before you open a can of worm on Yoruba, first research your own history and make sure you don't have a worst case scenario than the one you are ridiculing. Look at your people foregoing animal flesh and eating human flesh  By posting that article you caused a factual revelation about ibo cannibalism.  It never fails with you. . . . sometimes I wonder if you are ibo or a covert agent working against their interest.

Fuckingg hell shitt fagwore, does anyone care about your idiotic history, get a life and concentrate on all the ills ravaging jurubaland.
fuckingg wrench.

he's preaching the truth to you, u dum bell,  its not whether u care or not. . . . its what your history is.  he did not go back far enough. . . dont make me air your slave history here

The NigeriAN PYGMIES are still yapping?

Ibos are yet to win a single war, that's why they see online battles as real wars.

True talk!!

Hey guys, beat sense to these osu haramists. . . im taking break to eat and will be back, im not signing off till the last of them drop out.  This will be a marathon flogging on your gaddem Igbos.   stoopid pygmies!

My advice to Yoruba's will come in form of an anecdote.

During the boxing match between former world boxing champion Lennox Lewis and the challenger David Tua, Lennox Lewis told David Tua pointblank that he would need more than his (David Tua's) famous haircut and upper-cut to win the world boxing council championship. Lennox said and I quote, "It takes more than an upper cut and a hair cut to win the WBC champions belt".

As for my Yoruba brothers who always boast of "swagger" and always boasting of achievements ACTUALLY made by middle belt foot soldiers and Hausa/Fulani commanders supported by foreign powers, I would say the same thing; "It takes more than swagger and loudmouths to secede from Nigeria".
Nuff said!

well, where's your swagger?    . . . show some.  stop playing hide and seek, plant your two feet here right in front of me and roar. . . . you poussy!

Ojuwku the Lion of Biafra!   , more like rabbit of Biafra. . . .he hopped and skipped town leaving behind these degenerates to worship his failed legacy.  

Remember that wasnt the firs time he skipped town.  When Muratala was agitating to take battle to him in Enugu, he went underground and no one knew where or how to find him, even before Murtala had yet to leave Lagos.

Seriously man,you need to hear yourself,hiding you say? He sent a woman to whoop your sorry arse,what does that tell you? You can't stand with men,he's too much a man for you,its a shame that you don't seem to know how stuppid you appear on this thread.

first, stop referring to yourself as woman.  if you have to absolutely use the gender identity, then say "street woman".  ok?   Second, he needs to learn here how to stand man-to-man and defend his turf.  It will be a good practice for him when fulanis come back to your land for fresh virgins.  he would have learnt the art of defense, instead of hiding and waiting till ground is clear and then come out start roaring. . . excuse me, i mean protesting!  Third, this place is a training ground for ibos. . . . the article on the post started with that theme, and in every aspect it has turned out to be just that.   so call your men to come out from behind your wrapper and take more lessons from Yoruba men.  Let us teach them how to defend "ladies" and "women", none of which you qualify to be.

I've said my own. Leaving the thread for my able sister, Ada di Ora Igbo mma 1 of Nairaland

Eze of NL has lost his roar! what happened, scorpion got you in the throat?

Sensei!!!!!!!

Oh my God!! what!! Sisi where have u been my dear?

Bliss, stop parading your boobs in front of me. . . .I love boobs, but I want a nice pair from a Yorubawoman, not from snuff contaminated blood.

You were yelling for someone not within reach to come fight you,sign of cowardice,dude go treat your wounds,you bleeding

no, i was yelling for a coward hiding behind your wrapper to come out and be a man.  your eze of NL said he is waiting to roar when you start to smell yourself and take break to go clean up.  i want him to roar now before the funk get to u

what a shame,negro shhiiiiiit,so you have given up on ilorin?good.i knew this all along.even your master tinubu has given up on ilorin long before you were born.Soon the fulanis will also take over the entire southwest,dont worry,they will leave lagos for you.But soon you will have the following religious /traditional rulers in southwest.
---emir of ife
----emir of egbaland
all obaship in your cowardly southwest will be replaced by fulani emirates.

you put so much effort into defending a peddling ho but run away from the true honor of defending your women, on their own soil, from marauders coming for fresh virgins.   Men you are indeed!  

We dont defend our hos, but we stand sturdy in front, behind, on the sides of our women.  if we had the way to, we will be on top and below them.  . . . and i think we do that too, in fact deliciously.  

I know all about your mum being a ho so stop stating the obvious,if you think you haven't had enough and still wanna get beaten down,I'm here,stop yelling at someone miles away like your people are known to do,face me.

were you blind, i ve been facing you. . . just stand back few steps so that free funky thing you display is not too close for my comfort.

The lady does not need defending from your weak a55es. She is doing just fine by herself.  
We (the Igbo men) will roar if we ever think she needs help. For now, face the lady.    
lmao.

hahahaha. . . . can you roar louder than Ojukwu?   yeah, we heard his roar, from Ivory Coast cross-dressed as a woman to evade capture by Scorpion.

Seriously, those "cowards" are usually the ones with the best tactics. Yorubas are strategic, they understand that rules are meant to be broken.

The modern cowards have to be the Igbos. . . .even after the war, they're still being mistreated. Yet they havent shown any bravery to try the Hausas-Fulanis again.

lmao, they are politically inept!  even in warfare they are loosers!  they talk about enterprise but they are late comers in the trade.  what are they good for?  cameroon neighbor dont want them, ijaw dont want them, the only people that supported their Biafra, Calabar people. . . . they accused Akpan of betrayal for surreendering to Gowon.  iNGRATE BASTARDS!  Everyone is a betrayer except Ojukwu.