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She is not part of Ndieze and Ndichie in Western Igbo.
About her dressing, we have long ago agreed that there is Bini influence in Igbo culture as well as Bini influence in Yoruba culture. Above all, she is a proud Igbo.

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Andre,

A mother caught her son stealing cookie from the jar. Shocked the boy told his mom, the next door boy steals too.

Lmao! Exotic said your culture is influenced by Bini, you said yes, but instead of stopping you said "and Yoruba too".

What a fool!!

FYI, Yoruba culture influenced Bini, not the other way around.

They want a Biafra by all means but they have realized that to get Biafra they first need political victory. Their understanding of pollitical victory is an Ibo man on top. If Ibo man is not on top then they don't believe they won.

But this plead should have come before they voted Gej in, not after. They have upheld Gej and all he stood for as representation of what Ibo want, in other words, a Gej victory is an Ibo victory. So why ask for SE in 2015?

Gej was VP for 4yrs, he is now President and you are asking to have another President out of SE in 2015. Its impossible!

As is usual for them to do, Ibos put the cart before the horse. Gej is on SE slot.

What's the Honorable's name, is it Patrick or Peter? Someone correct me.

Dede,

You and Honorable Peter Obahiahgbon must be brothers.

Anyway, I didn't understand what you just wrote, can you please break it down for me.

When white man first set foot on Yorubaland there were already wars. Yorubas even sold white men as slaves. Yorubas fought white men and sank war boats belonging to Royal Navy. So whiteman was not unfamiliar with our capabilities to cause mayhem and conquer. whiteman preferred dialogue than confrontation with Yorubas. When whiteman was dominating and easily subduing everyone it was hard to understand this Yoruba race and even the missionaries concluded that ours is a superior race and compared Yoruba's Ile Ife to Greece's Olympus.

The colonial Governoe had problem with Awo's refusal to bow down to their authority and his constant challenge to their superiority. Twice they witnessed political turmoil in the West and this confirmed that the West was a wild place. This is why they coined the term "Wild Wild West".

Whiteman could not leave power in Yoruba hand, there won't be a Nigeria; Yoruba was too politically independent to coexist peacefully without causing bloodshed and then selling every Ibo and Hausa off as slaves.

Therefore to keep Nigeria, it was important that Britain preserve its interest and thus they installed the docile tribe of Ibo; they gave Ibo positions and gun power. They dared not put Yoruba in control of power and gun.

Brave men don't loose wars the way Ibo lost Biafra. Look, your field marshall ran away to Ivory Coast and then your General surrendered. What kind of brave men are you?

You bunch of cowards!!! Your field marshall abandoned post and fled to onitsha and then he took off second time and ran away to Ivory Coast.
Why didn't he wait for Murtala in enugu if indeed he was brave? Why didn't he return to the country when Murtala was in power, if indeed he was brave? Why didn't he return to Nigeria when Obj was in power, if indeed he was brave?

He is brave to you beccause you are a tribe of cowards. To Yorubas and Hausas he is nothing but a dayyam coward!!!

In the heat of fire he runs! And that's your war leader, your hero. Shyyt, you all need to find someone else to call eader and hero. You are better off calling Banjo your hero than Ojukwu. Banjo took heat and was at the warfront, while Ojukwu was hiding in Enugu. The Yoruba spirit was in him.

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But as an "expert" I was ready to correct you.Now, mind you even experts and those who are intelligent often make mistakes considering the debatable nature of our history and this is problematic because it was unwritten.As such people can "create" new stories and theories to support whatever claim.

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This has been my grievance on this thread all along.

There is a new awakening created by google and wiki. On one hand a search engine that can drill through monumental repositories of information.

We are also witnessing a media revolution that solicits freelance writers.

Add freelance writing to google and wiki and anybody can use these open portals to embellish his history to the world. Who is the police that monitor and enforce truthfullness and accuracy?

You are a fool!

Ojukwu could not stab Awo in the back and that's the man who clearly told him to abandon war efforts, but he stabbed Banjo in the back. Banjo was the one who kept with him even when the war turned sour. You are a fool!

Now et me tell you why he dared not harm Awo, even if he wanted to.

In the immediate days after July coup, Murtala was putting resource together to march to Enugu, particularly for Ojukwu because the Northern officers had enough of him. What did Ojukwu do? Murtala was restrained in Lagos and persuaded to give up the march to East. Meanwhile, een thugh Murtala was not coming, the fear of such a confrontation had gripped Ojukwu and he abandoned post and fled to Onitsha to hide in undisclosed place. How could an Ibo officer on his own soil, on his Iboland, hide from the threat of a Northerner coming to fight him on his fathersland?

Anyway, this fear never left Ojukwu, he dreaded the consequence of harming Awo.

Ojukwu was not the onlly Ibo officer that fled posts mind you. Even Ironsi fled, Zik, Okpara. They all abandoned positions.

Now I dare you to name one Yoruba officer that abandoned or fled post in face of the assaults.

Who is a coward, Ojukwu or Awo, Zik or Awo, Okpara or Awo?

If Ojukwu had harmed Awo, I guarantee you, Enugu and Ojukwu with his beard would have burnt much earlier than 67.

One more time, you are a fool!

Stp calling it onicha ugbo, the proper name for it is "orisha igbo". I thought I told you this already.

From the various interaction and discussions on who is Ibo and who is not, I'm concluding the following:

1. Ibo language is a common thread of denomination among many speakers who culturally are of diverse cultural origins.

2. Ibo language is a grouping for a multitude speakers across cultural lines.

3. Ibo is not a tribe or an ethnicity but rather a language grouping. If the language is taken away then the denominator for these people will vanish and their existence will default back along the cultural customs they are native to.

4. The Nri story and narrative of Ibo origination is a conjecture and has no backup in the knowledge and historical account of neighboring non-Ibo cultures.

5. It is stated that Nri originated in Egypt and was a settler in Iboland where a previous habiter, the Aro confederacy, subdued and dominated over the migrant Nri. This theory is a fraudulent attempt to insert Nri into the land but not at the cost of damaging the reputation and nobility of Aro. There is no where else in Africa where a settling civilization was subdued by the preexisting native. Something is wrong with this Nri/Aro relationship.

6. Ibos do not have a common hereditary, nor a common culture or rituals under which they are bonded as one. Language alone does not define tribal identity, the customs and rituals as well as a dripp up hereditary to root source are necessary.

It is very wrong to call Ibo a tribe, a group is more appropriate. A group of numerous cultures and tribes sourced from neighboring areas that congregated into a mono-tongue of identity.

Ibos don't know where they come from or how they got where they are, they just know they speak same language and couldn't even tell the origin of the language.

How can a people just say we come from everywhere? Where is everywhere?

I think his ssn should have been redacted before publishing. That's TMI, in the hands of identity thieves he will have more charges stacked up against him soon.

Give an overview or objective for your post. Don't just tell us what you want to do, tell us why and what the goal will and how it benefits your audience/participants.

This is very promising, good initiative by the Governor.

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Kill his @55 in jail, and NOTHING would have happened. 

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Onlytruth,

So why did he not?

Onlytruth,

I read your original post. You have lost your daymn mind, proposing for a no go area on your land but you want to be on everyone else's land. You are everywhere on fulani territory but you want to restrict him in your territory. What a fool u are.

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Leaders that think they are gods should stop for a rethink.

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Koruji,

Leaders don't come in as gods, we the citizens, through our worship and acquiensce and patronage elevate them to that position.

I said in a comment I made in an unrelated post that "the leaders we get are the leaders we deserve". We get so enamored and enchanted by lies that we fail to properly scrutinize a candidate's competence and fit for our needs and interests.

Mubarak is not a god, if he is, then Egyptians made him so. Whithout them ennabling his nonsense he would have quit government years ago.

all4naija:
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Your action will call for war because the different ethnic group cannot agree to start from the scratch or the so called dismantling(as if the country is not already in pieces).

We can agree on something which is the concerted effort of the general public with regards to the constitution, order than that there are a lot of things which you did not understand about the 1999 constitution(which is model along the Americans'). We had the Brit before then which didn't serve us well, which I think is based on this ethnicity line. The people who are in USA/England are quite aware things are missing in the constitution because this is their field, expert in it. Their contributions in no way cannot be all wrong - we are living in 21st century- I wouldn't want to draw anything from our irresponsible African laws which we know if they were superior they would have lead us to a more organized society by now yet the reverse is the case. I still think our govt. or rather society need external inputs with great scrutiny. Nobody is shoving anything into our throat but to see what these expert inputs would look like in comparison to what we are doing, if those could jettison the govt. to a more flexible and serving the people rightly - as in the developed world.

All4naija,

A wind-down process of dissolution is best. I read somewhere on here where ekt_bear alluded to a 20yr/50% resource retention. Good idea!

As I said earlier, when it comes to successful and war-free models of dissolution, the landscape is limited and our monkey-see/monkey-do penchant is handicapped.

This is a challenge and one we ought to scale through easily given our bragging rights of producing high grade intellectuals of global standard. Its time for originality in an area of life that is fundamental to our survival. There is nothing we can borrow from anywhere that will solve this problem we have because there is no wherelse like us. We are unique in our make up, we understand what we have and far more intimate with our desires to break free and create a unique and outstanding structure that departs from everything else we don't like and hate about our past. Per chance if we are successful at it our own creation might become a gold standard of sort for other nations up the timeline of history and nation building.


On the issue of our precolonial society and what you called "irresponsible African laws", what you judge irresponsible in our laws was far better than what the Europeans that conquered us had in that age of their culture. If our Africa had remained in hands of natives as Europe has and we were never occupied and you fast forward the two cultures to this age, 2011, we would be the civilization they look upto and copy for ideas. So don't dismiss the African laws in totality. I do agree that some elements of it do not need to be reawakened for modern application but there are far more benefits in its originality and essence to our nature than a foreign philosophy of Europen origin that we stagnantly exist under.

Dr Abunku, another well educated Nigerian that lacks foresight and compassion for his people.

So 600,000 people in Benue need the HIV/AIDS medication? The medication has side effects, which in themselves will also create other medical problems that will need more prescriptions. Its a regenrative situation like the phrase, the more money you have the more problems you get. In this case, the more medication you take the further more your body is degenerated.

The people of Benue ought to tell this Dr to shut the h*ll up before Pfizer start getting ideas for Benue.

The two aspects of a dominant culture and the social contract are present in the American system.

Dominant culture was not accomplished through a peaceful assembly and negotiation, rather, it was snatched forcefully with the power and threat of intimidation. English culture emerged the mainstream culture through several acts of bloody invasions, wars and as well subjugation. Articles of the American constitution gives broad definitions in an attempt not to micromanage the society. So for any one article, particularly expressing individual rights, you can interprete the law broadly or you can give it a narrow application. By this wide latitude discrimination lines between a ruling class mainstream (or dominant culture) and those that are classed thus and the not mainstream or substream have emerged as the new weapon of intimidation and threat by the state power. So, in effect the constitution that was intended as a document of liberty is in fact an instrument for deriving more power against the will of the people.

The social contract is not in the American constitution but rather in the Declaration of Independence, which is the root from which the constitution was drafted.

We talk too much about the constitution but neglect to realize that the will of the people that formed the dominant culture inserted into the constitution was first negotiated and secured by a Declaration of the willing - "We the People. . . . ."

Nigeria has no such declaration that expresses our will to be together. That will ought first to be negotiated and secured before we get into constituion drafting and amendment. I'm saying this to suggest that if its in our interest to copy the American model.

The SNC will be the forum where our version of Declaration of Independence can be negotiated and put into concrete terms for a union or for a dissolution.

It iS Gej's turn to rule. We might not be pleased with his selections but once cleared by Senate then we ought to embrace and support their woRk.

Lagcity,

That's the point! Ojukwu's benevolence to Awo, as onlytruth wants us to believe, was an independent decision for goodwill to the man.
The real goodwill and show of independence would have been to say no, there's no place for him in Calabar. Also, to the point you made, to have issued the order independent of Gowon and release Awo.

I stiil want to know from Onlytruth what altaernatives are open for Ojukwu to rebel the release order?

Ojukwu or any Eastern authority did not object to it.

So when the same Federal Govt under Gowon (Northerner) ordered his release what makes you think your coward Ikemba had any valid reason to object?

Koruji,

We are not saying he should not face justice. The government brought him in cage, not ordinary people on the street. They can torture and do to him whaever they want but keep it veiled. When he is brought in public, he can be shown in handcuffs but parading him in a cage is not just undignified for Mubarak, the Egyptian presidency is likewise humiliated.