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Onlytruth,

I said who threw Awolowo in jail?

I agree with Obj.

The manner in which Saddam was executed was wrong. The manner in which Mubarak was brought in is wrong.

Look, you don't humiliate someone in public who has had the honor to sit in a presidential seat and has had stately people bow to him.

America gave Osama a more befitting execution than they did Saddam.

When you put an ex president of Egypt in a cage for public view and humiliation, then you have humiliated the throne of power in that nation.

Another dimension to look at. American image really started taking hit when Republicans tarnished the power of their presidency by bringing what ought to be private in the white water probe to the public gaze and mockery, including a clothing belonging to Monica that was stained with the president's semen. That's when America lost its glory.


The Presidency is a cult. We'd love to kniow and see what they do but certain activities and actions of what they are and do must be kept out of public gaze, that way the mystery of the office does not loose its enchanting effect over us.

who thre Awo in jail?

Let's start from there.

Gowon released him we know that.

Awo did not commit suicide but for some reason Ibos loved repeating and recycling tales manufactured in Abakaliki.

Aloy,

I like your opinion to the news.

Anytime you mechanize a process there has to be an efficiency factor to attribute the success to. In the same light, there will be a cost savings. The cost savings are realized as lay offs. In other words, the e-machines make the human hands redundant and dispensable.

Now, I thought people of Nairaland said Sanusi is not smart?

This guy will open three branches of islamic bank in Northern sttates and provide employment for Northerners but here he is launching a program that will lay of Westerners from their jobs.

Who is not smart, the graduate of Islamic studies or the holders of doctorate degrees in Economics and finance?

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Alh, you see what I told you in another thread. 90% OF Yoruba posters are very tribalistic

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Who said this? Na who make dis statement wey I quote so?

Aah! May God Almighty increase my love for my people and my fatherland a gazillion times.

The land that nurtured my forbears, the land Oduduwa, the land of noble warrior kings, the land of conquerors, the land of mighty Emperors, the land of astute and shrewd politicians, the land of Moremi, the land of Awolowo, oh, may my love for Yorubaland never depart my soul before the last breathe leave this my body.


Seun, put some audio portal here so I can praise my fatherland for these goons that don't have a land to be proud of.

Got message in fb. Is that true?

Ojukwu, I wish you speedy recovery.

Your pikin dem want finish de job wey dem papa no fit accomplish. We go fvck 'em up.

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As i said respect is reciprocal. if you insult ojukwu, they would insult awolowo which i dislike very much because I love the man and benefitted from his policies

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Lol, did you say they will insult Awolowo?

Where have you been?

How is it police always show up on time to rescue someone from people exacting justice but never on time to rescue victims of rape or robbery or murder?

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So where exactly did we go wrong as a country and continent?

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Ekt,

I know people have shared many opinions to answer this question. My own opinion is one reason are responsible.

1. Tribal customs.
The spirit of a people is interwoven with their psyche which is deeply anchored with who they are which is chained to their customs and rituals.

The moment you de-tribalize a people then they become demoralized and loose self-identity.
When identity is gone the psyche and the humanity is impacted and behavioral intincts change. A detribalized person is a lost conscience.

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maybe ojukwu is not worth it but for the fact that they want him to be there hero, then I think we should act mature and leave them to who ever they want as a hero

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Oh, who they choose as their hero is their headache. I just know their past heroes are under our feet. We step and spit on them with disgust.

stop it if ojukwu is there hero then he MUST be respected and at least don't comment if you have no blessing for him

Alj,

Ibos don't have any hero worth respecting. None!

This is bad idea!

Who is next in line for firearms, the boyscouts?

They should send a team of Ibo, Yoruba and Hausa reporters to go see and report independently of Ikemba's condition.

ACF will either endorse Bbangida or someone that can be as callous and cold and inflict pain and suffering on Southern interests. The surge in Southern chatter is making them unsettled. They see more frequent opposition and challenge to their proposals for North, so they will put some in there that they know can care less what South say or how they feel as long as the needs of the North is met. Also, they have more daring programs coming up, Sharia and Islamic banking is not all. . . . expect to see Hausa becoming the official language in the North and probably seconded by Arabic or English.

I dont blame them. The damages done by Pfizer is still fresh.

Where is that Lab Rat called seanet and that deaf foool called bluetooth, come and READ what your yeraaabbaaa brothers are meant for

No Good can come out of a yeraabaaa man

ALL COWARDS as usual

Arm Bandits

nasoeb,

You no dey shame! The people confronted the police and abducted one of the riot policement and it took intervention by his collegaues to free him.

If na for East una don go carry placard go for highway they protest and asking human rights to come help. Na who be coward, Ekiti people wey confront police or MASSOB wey carry placard go for road dey protest?

Let's wait to see the video or get credible report on what it contains.

Justice Dada need to be careful as well and beef up security.

Chyz,

Go see Dede for some tutoring on these people and their public declaration.

The only reason it became capital was because it already was a promising and thriving territory and didn't require much input by the colonialists to get it going - it had established its own footing before their arrival.

I will post a link later for you to read and hear what the missionaries said about Lagos and Yorubaland generally. The missionaries had been all over the South and were familiar with what was where and who was where but yet they endorsed the one that, to them, was the equivalent of what Olympus was to the Greece.

I will post the link and people can read it.

9ja,

I am interested in whatever you have in oral particularly.

Oral records cannot be dismissed as unauthoritatiVe in the face of written records. For example there are words in written records that because of the tongue of the writer may be adulterated, example - white man called Kabiyesi "Cabooceer". So oral narratives are treasures when writing our history.

Lagcity,

True, Yoruba/Tapa and Hausa/Fulani are intermingled and could explain their tolerance for us and our tolerance for them.

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All the tribes are represented in the Lagos Civil service, same cannot be said about other states which is why they remain backward while Lagos marches into a brighter rewarding future, NOTE, No society truly develops by its own people alone.

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Lagos progress and development had nothing to do with diverse representation. It was doing very well fr centuries before other Nigerians knew there was a place called Lagos and how to get to it and it was only Yorubas in it and ruling it then. While diversity is good for some things its also destructive for the culture and some other things.

Alextayo,

Than you, I echo that.


Baawaa,

Ibos have no home from which to learn that wisdom. They want to own our home. We shall give them a navigator pointing them in East.

Okunoba,

Very well said, I like that, except for one section.

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At the end of the day there is nothing wrong with an Igbo person ruling Lagos as long as he can do a good job and loves the state as he would love his home, but if the idea is to rule so we can be told how much smarter and that you are better than every other ethnic group in Nigeria then no one will want an Igbo as Governor of Lagos or even as  President of Nigeria.

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This your thought is accomodating. When you say it is conditionally possible you accomodate that under the right behavior we will give them Yorubaland to rule.

Northerners have been well behaved on our soil have we given them rulership? Southerners, Middlebelters, they don't cause us trouble and have we put them as rulers on our land?

Ibos have always wanted to seize our land and rule over us. Listen to that post by alj_harem on their intent to change the tongue of the midWesterners. If they had succeeded in taking over Ibadan and Lagos as they intended we will be speaking Ibo today, and instead of hating everything Ibo we don't, we accomodate them. Here, thank God, they have given voice to the desire in their heart to rule us and so all things accomodating to Ibo on Yorubaland and by Yorubas need to stop and their hatred need to begin.

If anybody ask why we point them to the numerous voices on this topic in NL.

It was few Ibo boys that carried out the Ibo coup of Jan 66 and they did on behalf entire Ibo people. These people speaking here on NL are in the position those coup plotters were, doing a Ibo job and for all Ibos.

Ibos in West shall hear us soon. Let the drum beats continue.

I don't care what you call them. What we call them is what matters - and we call them Yorubas. That's what they have identified and wish to be known that's why Dede is upset with them and their oloza.

You didn't know that? you are worse than a dummy!

No, you did not offend this side at all and I appreciate the reciprocated consideration.

Now, you spoke with great wisdom here. I tune in and agree with almost everything you said. You are not wrong in predicting what the drum majors will do. A President must be compassionate and be in touch with the common man. He must dine and wine the social elites but damn them with resolve for principled actions on his policies and agendas. They are not his defenders, the common people are.

On this issue of, "troubled waters", so to speak, the President need a forum for addressing the nation and speaking to the people with honesty and compassion. That should already have happened since Boko affair started.

On SNC, what is the default and what is the alternative way forward?

First I believe we are using the constitution for the wrong reasons and abusing its relevance by making so many amendments so close apart.

A constitution is a pressure point and for good reason ought to be left intact and whatever gaps we are trying to close should be addressed via house bills. When we amend constitution we are dodging the pressure for the house to come up with creative and genuine ways to address real issues that impact the peiople and society. So in 2015 another President get in and guess what, constitutional amendment. In 2019 another President, constitutional amendment. What are we doing?

The laxity of the many constituional drafts and their various amendments and military decrees over so many years to address our issues bear one testimony - our issues and needs and interests are divergent, not convergent. We may look same with similar features on outside but our inner spirits desire different paths and aspirations which the union is incapable of providing. We are wasting lives, not just in death but also in living. Our human workforce and productivity and efficiency is under-utilized. We are a nation of unfulfilled ambitions. The union has made us handicapps, even though our limbs are complete and functional. . . . . .we are no better than those who are limbless. Our productivity is no better than their output at their optimum best.

So shouldn't we first ask the people what they want rather than assuming that a one-Nigeria is the way to go forward?

Do you know why Aburi broke down and Biafra went to war?
Lack of communication and disregard for the power of active negotiations.

Through consistent sharing and feeback, where the President gets an air time with the public and give a broadcasted speech, information gathering at the community level, his office can get a true feel for want the people want and how to facilitate a proper channel for the negotiations. He should only facilitate and if necessary mediate, but the regionals have learnt their lessns and each side is suspicious and wary of the other, the negotiations will succeed and whatever path the parties declare as choice then the President can bless that.

Okada-man,

How could you make such a statement. Where is it I agreed with him on this Sumeria story?


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It's a whole lot of shiiiit we can't really understand really unless we are able to put all the pieces together!!!

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9ja,

Thank you for the info. You have opened a can of worms. I am patient, please get to work and help assemble all the parts together.

What language they spoke, what their alphabets were, what the rituals were, what the social heirarchy and status was, refrences.


I hope this is not one of those atheist stories about flying saucers.

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Mustapha should be bold enough to make all these information available to human rights groups  and I think human rights groups should be able to make good use of it to make further debate and once there is a public debate, I think that is the only way we can bring pressure to this government to set up an independent panel of inquiry to investigate the veracity of the statement credited to Mustapha.

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Listen to this dude. Since when did human rights become a part of a sovereign government and with power to determine the course of action for a domestic controversy?

Why is the journalist even giving him space to talk?

Armed robbers have been Desecrating and killing Nigerians for decades and they are mainly based in lagos/West.
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Yorubas used to do all night owambes with no problem until after war and broke Ibos and survivors of starvation started flooding into West. That was the last time we enjoyed safe night parties.

When Yoruba got here somebody was on the land and we took it, but then lost some of it. We would have lost more but we recovered. The fulanis that we caught became slaves on our land.

We are talking about your mouth for shouting war and bragging war. You are no war material. Why didn't u fight war when fulani violated your women. Which warrior do you know that carry placard in the middle of street?

You should have pursued and slaughtered the raiders and confiscate their cattle and donate to the families of those violated and killed. That's what warriors do. Not march in middle of street carrying cardboard "HELP, fulani violated our young women". "Where is human rights, we need you, SOS".

Go siddon!