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Isnt 250k too small? Just imagine the number of cases they will have to investigate per day.

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Dont you get tired abusing people?

@javalove; Why do you accept to fall into the devil's antics?

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You are advertising your forum here? you wan make we comot from NL?

Somebody plagiarising a book and challenging others to produce it? what a warped reasoning . . . I can do better!

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Has he prophesied about our match with Kenya yet?

Aha, DeepSight and Davidylan again

^^^^^^ I hope this site is trustworthy?

I dont think we Christians have a problem with miracles, for even the devil can perform miracles.

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He probably might have read about it for the first time.

I dont understand the mindset of these militants.

alex0026:
listen fellow earthly being,are you waiting to see a physical jesus that died two thousand years ago,what of your great grand father don't you want to see him or is he a historical sinner?

. . . and what concerns atheists with Christians waiting for the day their will be joined together with their Lord?

Abuzola:
'A party of the people of the scripture (jews and christian) wish to lead you astray, but they shall not lead astray anyone except themselves and they perceive not' Quran 3:69

. . . errrrr mujahideen, who is leading you astray?

the_seeker:
i have noticed that you delibertely like acting stupid. As if you dont know what 'plural of majesty' means

Okay wise man, what is meant by plurality of majesty? or allah now is in the plural sense?

Lets wish them luck.

*sorry, am in a wrong thread . . . this homepage threads*

Fashola is the only performing governor in 9ja for now.

Is it now that he is about to fight for re-election that Mr. Obi wants to build an airport? 9ja politicians na wah!

dappssee:
[size=20pt]We dont have an economic plan and as such we need a panic plan b'cos we have a sick president leading a dying nation.[/size]

This is a funny post, I must say.

As for what you have posted on this thread, though you have stylishly said you will not go further, I can see that as a trick from you, as Muhsin has said in the other thread, I will answer you (Insha Allaah) and i pray you do not stylishly run away crying foul.

Watch out.

How long will it take you to compile your answers?

I think muslims will start killing innocent people again if the dark sides of mohammed are brought to the open . . . unless those darksides (i.e paedophilia, womanizing, killing/robbing innocent people, etc. etc. ) are edited out.

'Had We (ALLAH)

allah is now expressed in plural? or maybe mohammed plagiarised the rendering of YHWH as one Echad into the koran . . . Trinity!

from Us

Who are the 'US'? can you explain? or mohammed wanted to steal the Trinity into islam?

Quran 21:17

I dont give a damn about koranic quotations.

@Javalove;

You claimed that you are not an atheist, you claimed you believe in God but went ahead and called Christianity delusion.

What made you to claim belief in God?

Can you logically prove (with the age of reason you subscribe to) that God exist?

Is belief in God not delusion (according to the age of reason)?

'God is not man that we can understand His ways'.

Better sit up before the devil drags you to atheism (if you are not one yet).

@ Deepsight;
From your posts, you questioned basically two things, i.e.
1. Jesus’ position as a messiah in regards to His divinity,
2. His reasons for praying to God if He were God.

I will try to follow this argument from these two basic positions:

1. Messiahship and divinity:

"For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus."

WHAT IS A MEDIATOR? Simply put, a mediator is a go-between. A mediator acts as a bridge between two parties which for whatever reason cannot have direct dealings with one another. The Bible verse quoted above clearly asserts that Jesus is the mediator between God and men. God and man cannot have direct dealings with one another. Jesus Christ is the go-between. He is the bridge between God and men.

The argument:
If Jesus were only a man and not God, could He be a fit mediator between God and men? to be more specific, let me ask you another question. Since Christ is the only mediator between God and men, what attribute must He possess in order to perform that task?
Well, definitely He needs to have God’s attribute of all- knowingness and everywhere-presence or He would not be able to attend to all those who would call upon God through Him. Can you imagine how many people all around the world call upon God through Him every minute? Thousands - if not millions! Now, if Jesus were only a man and not also God, how could He ever attend to all? Impossible!
Now, If Jesus were only God and not also a man, could He be a fit mediator between God and man?
This is why the Holy Spirit, through the Apostle, emphasizes the humanity of Christ. He wrote, "For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." Now, is the Holy Spirit saying that Jesus is only a man and that He is not God? Of course not. Then why does the Holy Spirit emphasize the humanity of Jesus? Well, because if Jesus is only God and not also a man, He could not be a fit mediator between God and men.
This is the teaching of Heb. 2:17,18. We read, " Therefore, He [Jesus] had to be made like His brethren in all things, that He might become a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people. For since He Himself was tempted in that which He has suffered, He is able to come to the aid of those who are tempted." Again in Heb. 4:14-16, we read, "Since then we have a great high priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but One who have been tempted in all things as we are, yet without sin. Let us therefore draw near with confidence to the throne of grace, that we may receive mercy and may find grace to help in time of need."


2. God praying to God?

This is a very common question and the answer is found in understanding the Trinity and the incarnation of Jesus.
The Trinity is the doctrine that there is only one God in all existence. This one God exists as three persons: The Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit. They are not three gods, but one God. Each is a separate person, yet each of them is, in essence, divine in nature.
A close analogy of the Trinity can be found by looking at the concept of time. Time is past, present, and future. There are three "aspects" or "parts" of time. This does not mean that there are three "times," but only one. Each is separate, in a sense, yet each shares the same nature, or essence. In a similar way, the Trinity is three separate persons who share the same nature.

The Incarnation:
The doctrine of the incarnation in Christian teaching is that Jesus, who is the second person of the Trinity, added to himself human nature and became a man.
The Bible says that Jesus is God in flesh, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God, and the word became flesh and dwelt among us," (John 1:1, 14); and, "For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form," (Col. 2:9). Jesus, therefore, has two natures. He is both God and man.
Jesus is completely human, but He also has a divine nature.

DIVINE NATURE OF JESUS:
He is worshiped (Matt. 2:2,11; 14:33; 28:9)
He is prayed to (Acts 7:59; 1 Cor. 1:2)
He was called God (John 20:28; Heb. 1:
He was called Son of God (Mark 1:1)
He is sinless (1 Pet. 2:22; Heb. 4:15)
He knew all things (John 21:17)
He gives eternal life (John 20:28)
The fullness of deity dwells in Him (Col. 2:9)




JESUS HUMAN NATURE
He worshiped the Father (John 17)
He prayed to the Father (John 17:1)
He was called man (Mark 15:39; John 19:5).
He was called Son of Man (John 19:35-37)
He was tempted (Matt. 4:1)
He grew in wisdom (Luke 2:52)
He died (Rom. 5:
He has a body of flesh and bones (Luke 24:39)

As a man, Jesus needed to pray. When He was praying he was not praying to Himself, but to God the Father.

So Deepsight, the fact is in understanding that Jesus have a Divine nature as well as a human nature. The verses you quoted were the ones referring to his human nature, whereas you blatantly refuse to acknowledge the biblical verses that referred to his divine nature.

@javalove;

[size=18pt]"Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water, perished." -- 2 Peter 3:3-6[/size]

Think about that.

"[size=28pt]Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water, perished." -- 2 Peter 3:3-6[/size]

[size=18pt]How fresh that prophecy sounds . . . . thank you brother, for posting that prophecy of Apostle Peter.[/size]

The messiah (jesus), son of mary was no more than a messenger, many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother (Mary) was truthful believer. They both use to eat food (as any other human being, while God does not eat). Look how we make the revealation clear to them, yet look how they are deluded away from the truth' Quran 5:75

I consider koran as a doctored writing by mohammed to legitimise his evil ways such as paedophilia with ayesha, lusting after and marrying his step-daughter, killing and robbing people, etc. etc., so I dont mind quotations from the koran, as it is a filthy book.

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Yeah, the light has come, but people preferred darkness to the light.

@ the_seeker;

Muhammad's father was named Abdulah cos the christians of arabia, the jews and even the pegans knew their almighty God by the name Allah
even though Muhammads tribe was poltheyist, they still recognized an almigthy God depite their pantheon of lesser gods.

. . so that idol that was called allah by the quraish tribe and housed in the kaaba was the one recognised as almighty god? . . . my God! what a delusion . . . YHWH can never be represented by an idol! God forbid!

hi, members, i think the issue of religion should be left with those who imported them into this country.

Religion is concerned with your relationship with your God (or god). So if you confess your faith, why should you leave it to other people . . . you mean they should be worshipping your G(g)od for you?

i'm a bit confused; imagine, the bible stated that ''who so ever did not believe that jesus christ is the saviour, has been condemed' and the quran made us to understand that ALLAH will not accept any religion than islam.

Do not be confused, we have fake religions with fake prophets and a true religion with true prophets . . 'by they fruits you shall know them' . . . shine your eye and discern the true followers of God.

now, which  do we believe? or are we serving a different GOD?

. . yes! we are serving two different Gods . . . YHWH is the name of the Christian God, while allah, who used to be an idol, housed together in the kaaba in makkah with other idols (numbering about 360) worshipped by mohammed's kinsmen of quraish tribe in arabia, was re-introduced and made to look like the Almighty God, is the one worshipped by muslims.