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Monotheism doesnt make any sense if the god you are worshipping is an idol . . . even early Egyptians claimed monotheism from the worship of pharoah!

Nezan, listen to yourself. Does your post make any sense to you.
A drowning man will clutch at straws.

It will not make sense to you because there is nothing like love in islam. Of the 99 attributes of your allah, there is nothing like love, so how can any discourse on love make any meaning to you?

jesus said
"many will say onto me in that day. Lord Lord have we not prophesied in your name, cast out demons in your name. And done many wonders in your name?
And then i will declare to them, 'i never knew you; depart from me, you who practice lawlessness!"

O worshippers of christ! Fear ALLah and fear that day when this shall become your portion!

You see your problem? you quote Christian scripture without understanding what it means or the context in which it was spoken. Did Jesus know any allah?
What Jesus is telling us is that the fact that you are using Jesus' name to perform miracles does not matter, what matters is righteousness, for without righteousness, you cannot make heaven.

BTW, has anybody performed any miracle in the name of mohammed?

@the_seeker;
I told you some days earlier on the muslim board to change your id, reason been that there is somebody on the forum with the id: 'theseeker', which one can easily confuse with your 'the_seeker'.

You can never compare the koran with the Bible because reading through the koran, you will discover three sources:
1. From stories plagiarised from the Biblical old testament, Torah
2. From the Biblical new testament

These stories are then retold with the flavour of arabian fairy tales to corrupt the original source.

I thought I saw your comments on the thread I was showing you people the numerous contradictions in the koran.

He was the way not the destination
just as moses was the way and mohammed is the way

Moses NEVER claimed in the Torah to be the way to the Father.

Mohammed NEVER claimed in the koran to be the way either!

Jesus was the only person who claimed to be the way to the Father, because He is one with the Father. No need pulling wool over anybody's eyes.

the reason i like Nezan is that he knows how to present a stupid argument with so much dignity that one is tempted to take him seriosly.

I dont blame you, islam has so much enslaved your reasoning that every argument that is not pro-islam is stupid to you. Free yourself and accept the truth!

He has so much enslaved himself to the dogma of xtianity that he conjures the most ludicrous explanations to escape obvious facts.

We Christians are not enslaved to Christianity, we open up our mind to logical arguments unlike muslims who cannot condone any counter view. Imagine your muslim mods editing my posts whereby they carefully removed posts I trounced olabowale in argument. You people are so dogmatic that anything that is not pro-islam is haram!

You have the right to post whatever u want but i know your conscience cannot deny the truth.

I have a conscience yes! but my conscience will worry me if I fail to let muslims understand that the way to salvation is only through JESUS!

Na wa-o, so much arms out there in the open . . . are we safe?

Tribalism, Ethnicity, Sectionalism . . . .

N500,000,000.00? Is this not mincemeat compared to what the guy reaped from his previous office?

It is only Niger Deltans that are enjoying in this administration.

I pray that we move to the next round, I dont have faith in our abilities.

She ASUU say post-UME is illegal?

^ yeah, it is uncouth behaviour.

@ olabowale; Jesus is not his Lord? are you now a spokesman for the gods to tell somebody who his Lord is?

What journalist know in Nigeria is to criticise government and run it down without caring that they are damaging the image of government.

What you did in the first place is sin!

Thank God, mother+child are fine.

Aisha, thanks for a job well done . . . as for Ben, I wish him a quick recovery.

African ladies (and men) like copying things, we are never original . . . . that is why we copy anything we see!

My pearl of inestimable value!

Is it only ibos that eat esiewu?

May God save us from all the impending danger.

Bad belle people . . . . dem full everywhere.

^^ softly guys

@shakerz;

Nezan, why are exposing xtianity. I have been able to make two conclusions from your post
1. You admited that story of jesus is similar to mithra but not as similar as shakerz has made us to believe
2. In a desperate attempt to boost your argument you also confirmed that xtianity has pagan element. Which am sure you would never have accepted in a direct confrontaion on the same issue

Christianity is not a cult that fear certain false elements of it will be exposed. Infact, it is an open religion so there is no point saying I expose Christianity.

1. Unless you were reading without your brains, Jesus's story is never similar to that of mithra which is why the posts were even made. If there is any similarity between Jesus and mithra, it can only be because mithraism copied Christianity and not the other way round!

2. Christianity has no pagan elements. You can refer to my thread on this issue for more insight.

If Christianity copied mithraism, how then is mithraism dead and buried in the archives of history while Christianity remains as vibrant as ever?

Even though you, i and jesus are all sons of God we must consider jesus as a big brother cos he is more unique and holy than we can ever be.

And when do muslims start claiming that they are children of allah? are you no longer slaves of allah?

I dont need you to tell me about the uniqueness of Jesus . . . you can never be as holy as He is because He is God!

The problem comes when to try to raise a creature to the level of the creator by ascribing ulterior meanings to begotten as different from created. Pls tell us, was jesus created or not?

You mean you know more about Jesus than He does about His relationship with the Father? If Jesus claimed equality with the Father? who are you to be denying it? or have you become a spokesman for God?

^^ What you wrote is typical of a perversed muslim mind . . . just like mohammed who was as ignorant and sexually perversed.

The phrase “only begotten Son” occurs in John 3:16, which reads in the King James Version as, "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life." The phrase "only begotten" translates the Greek word monogenes. This word is variously translated into English as "only," "one and only," and "only begotten."

So what does monogenes mean? According to the Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature (BAGD, 3rd Edition), monogenes has two primary definitions. The first definition is "pertaining to being the only one of its kind within a specific relationship." This is the meaning attached to its use in Hebrews 11:17 when the writer refers to Isaac as Abraham's "only begotten son." Abraham had more than one son, but Isaac was the only son he had by Sarah and the only son of the covenant.

The second definition is "pertaining to being the only one of its kind or class, unique in kind." This is the meaning that is implied in John 3:16. In fact, John is the only New Testament writer who uses this word in reference to Jesus (see John 1:14, 18; 3:16, 18; 1 John 4:9). John was primarily concerned with demonstrating that Jesus was the Son of God (John 20:31), and he uses this word to highlight Jesus as uniquely God's Son—sharing the same divine nature as God—as opposed to believers who are God's sons and daughters through faith.

The bottom line is that terms such as "Father" and "Son," that are descriptive of God and Jesus, are human terms used to help us understand the relationship between the different Persons of the Trinity. If you can understand the relationship between a human father and a human son, then you can understand, in part, the relationship between the First and Second Persons of the Trinity. The analogy breaks down if you try to take it too far and teach, as some Christian cults (such as the Jehovah’s Witnesses), that Jesus was literally "begotten" as in “produced” or “created” by God the Father.

^^ Your favourite can never be in a word, your favourite is that your mind have been programmed by islam, that is why some of you can commit heinous terrorist acts, killing people and believing that you will have 70 virgins in paradise.

The Son and the Father are one. This unity is a perfect one, that was why the Son could not do anything by himself alone without communing with the Father. Jesus is wishing that we, his followers should be one with Him just as He is one with the Father. Meaning we should unite, we should love ourselves in perfect unity, and we should love him. In everything that we do, we should not do anything by ourselves without communing with Him, just as He was doing with the Father based on their unity. That was why Jesus even summarised the laws into two: Love for God, and love among ourselves . . . . there can be no unity without love!

paul was a very smart guy who rode on the Glory of jesus to earn cheap popularity. Jesus said to peter 'thou art cephas, And on you i will build my church". Then uncle paul comes out of the blues claiming to have an encounter with christ. A man whom he never met when he was alive.

Such vituperations can only come from a muslim mind. The fact that Paul never met Jesus did not prevent Jesus from appearing to him. It is just the same as saying we Christians never saw Jesus but claim divine encounter with Him today . . . did you see the paedophillic, murderous, lying prophet of islam? he never saw God but claimed that god gave him divine inspiration.

You should be asking the contribution of brother Paul to the Church of Christ . . Just as Peter was appointed a minister to the Jews, Paul was ministering to the gentiles. I understand your frustrations . . all muslims wish forever that Jesus should not have used brother Paul in propagating the gospel so that this good news of salvation would have been lost, so that mohammed would have found it easier to spread his lies.

Just go through the differnt narrations of his encounter and the contradictions and inconsitencies are obvious.

Bring out the contradictions . . . such baseless claims. I recently tackled an atheist on this fallacy.


[quoteHe went ahead to write over half of new testament blatantly opposing the teachings of christ. [quote][/quote]I wonder when muslims have become experts in knowing the teachings of Christ. Who ever told you that Pauls teachings were contrary to Christ's teachings? My friend, stop believeiving everything you read. Let Christians complain about Jesus and Paul, definately not muslims . . . what do you think?

I have tons of these type of subtle reality between Jesus completely different from what Paul said about him, evidences that Paul did a snow job on Jesus.

Subtle reality or distorted snippets of the Bible from a muslim mind?

Oh, Davidylan pedophiles are not always men who marry many grown women and just a single extremely younger wife! My Zaynab is extremely younger than me, and by Allah, I know many younger women in America who want me. On my wife, am I a pedophile? I dont know where a husband is termed a pedophile for sleeping with his wife? Adultery or fornication is more of a worse sin that pedophilia with one's wife will ever be. Wile the former is an illigal sex and popularly engaged in by non muslims, the later can t be taken as illigal or a bad act especially when the wife is not complaining!

Having sex with a 9 year-old baby is not the same as having sex with your fully developed wife. If not, marry your babies out at 6 years, that was the age mohammed married ayesha.

Further, today, we see on American TV where even 12 or 13 years old are parents. Get real, davidylan.

That is not the same as having sex with a 9 year-old baby.