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Tpave:
No, what i mean is that you can decide to use less number of bags of cement. Like in this case, you can change to 180 bags instead but what i gave you is the standard calculation.

Ok. Thanks.

segcymoor:
Gentle man, considering this client tastes in finishing. ....u may likely be the one to handle the ceiling finishings

I have been seeing the pictures of his works. I hope you will show us pictures when he is finished.

spyder880:
At Tigerkenn Homes, we pride ourselves with the depth of our research, we don't just walk into a location and buy plots, we do a whole lopt of background checks, starting from the government, to the locals, every little piece of information matters.

We walked, we rode bikes, we drove tricycles and cars into many locations around Irete, Owerri. From what I could find out, this is a fast developing area, close to the state capita and yet with a very good, table land. We can turn this place into a goldmine in a few years time.

There is a company called Livelihood homes that has been advertising Blue Sea estate, Irete Owerri on radio. Is yours in the same Irete axis with theirs.

erico2k2:
That is why we should try and get basic skilz of DIY ehe, why pay to tile a room if you can do it urself on saturday morning with a good bottle of non alchoholic rosey

When you wake up by 4am in Lagos to go to the office and return home by 11pm everyday and doing that for 5 days, on a Saturday morning, the last thing on your mind is to go and do DIY of tilling a floor. Just try that and within a short time, when the person drops dead, his people will start blaming the old witch in the village.

Abroad, you have no option than to do DIY because paying a technician over there is expensive. Calculate the hourly wage in a place like UK or US and multiply that by 8 hours of work and then convert to Naira and then compare that to what you have to pay here, you will see why you do not have to bother yourself on DIY for little things.

To wash my car at a car wash place, i will likely pay N500. Is it because of N500 that i should disturb my peaceful sleep and rest from stress to go and do DIY of washing the car?.

skimanski:
MAke Una no use Arthritis Derail this thread. Na una talk am say no Other topic. Infact no laff for this Thread on Serious issues. lol

Now my 2 kobo on this matter of Materials used in Nigerian Architecture. Like I always say, it depends on the balance between the client, the economy and contractor. i.e what the contractor has in store, what the Client is ready to accept and what the economy can favour.

1 THE ECONOMY
The Nigerian Economy isn't organized enough to enable a company that produces the wood they use in Building houses to stay and make profits. Hence me must import, there by increasing cost of Building with wood relatively. infact no business they make am, just say some business no get choice other than to stay. I'm even sure that the government will intentionally allow an unfavourable environment for these simple Building business Ideas so as to allow thoses their paddies that have cement Factory all over africa to continue making it.


2 THE CONTRACTOR
Some contractors are too based on how much they can make out of a project, and so if any process will slow that cash flow because they'll have to think extra, then its bye bye to such process. What i think is when contractors pick up a project. the first thing they should think of which is what I think of is how best can I make the house the finest and most creative around the environment and not bring a calculator out to calculate how best he can maximise his profit.

CLIENT
Some (Arsene Wenger Mr. BABA IJEBU) clients wants to build cheap house. Them want to use the cheapest labour. them wan use the cheapest professionals, them want the cheapest Architectural design, and the funny thing is them still want the finest Outcome. ahh thats not fair. We will never get a creative house from that. Not possible. How will some1 say he's looking for a tiller that will lay tiles for N200/m2.Make Una still dey sorry for all these workers, some get families ooo. (Oga 3strike, no Strike me oooooo. Na only example i dey make oooo no be u be Arsene Wenger oooo ).

Chai, even for my poor village, you cannot get a tiler to lay tiles for N200/m2 not to talk of a city.

NL1960:
Nice grill. Do you mind sharing the price range of making one.

fash78:
Also, I would like to share the total cost of the fence work and the security house + gen house + store house.

I have broken the cost analysis into two: 1) For fence making (material and labour) and 2) security house et al making (materials and labour)

Fence Materials
1. Cement 140pcs @ 1950 = N273000
2. 2 trips of 30Ton of sharp sand = N82000
3. 1 trip of 30Ton plaster sand = N47000
4. 1Ton of 10mm reinforcement = N105000
5. 1Ton of 12mm reinforcement = N105000
6. 1 trip of 30Ton granite = N130000
7. Making of 2500pcs of block = N231000
8. Buying of additional 200pcs of 6”blocks = N26000
9. Buying of additional 180 pcs of 9”blocks = N28800
10. Buying of 100pcs of 4” blocks = N15000
11. 10pcs of 1 by 12 wood = N9000
12. 2 metal iron gates = N340000
13. 5 metal fence grills = N175000
14. 2.5 bundles of nails = N11250
15. 2 bundles of binding wire = N10000

Total for fence materials = N1588050

Labour for fence
1. Mason (block setting and casting of column) = N180000
2. Mason (casting of 4 gate pillars) = N25000
3. Mason (Plastering of fence all inner sides and one outer side) = N110000
4. Iron bender = N35000
5. Carpenter = N50000
6. Plumber = N5000
7. Electrician = N7000

Total for fence labour = N412000

Grand total for fence (Materials and Labour) = N2000050

Nice cost analysis. I guess this answers my question above as i want to steal this design or something close to it because of funds. Good cost too on the gate.

As iam poorer than Hajji , i might have to go for something lower for the gate as na even village the project dey. This your analysis is a good guide. Kudos.

Unsad:
Day. It helps monitor your kid day to day activities

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Unsad:
Day. It helps monitor your kid day to day activities

Interesting. How do you monitor the child?. Will you follow him/her to school or will you wait for him/her at the school gate all day?. Will you even know what him/her does inside the school once he/she is inside?. also, what of during break?.

What so much distractions now in the world, boarding is the best if you can afford it. It allows the child to concentrate and he/she is able to bond with his/her peers.

NL1960:
Please can you throw more light into this?. Does it mean that somebody can decide not to use cement for such flooring.

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Tpave:
Yes, gravel is an option with less sand cos it contains sand already. The cement option is by choice but the calculation I gave is for a standard casting that will last.

Please can you throw more light into this?. Does it mean that somebody can decide not to use cement for such flooring.

Tpave:
PAVING STONES: D is 159.975sqm while E is 128.25 sqm _ Total sqm is 288.225 approximately 290sqm. (1) Paving stones at N1300 per sqm _ #377,000 (2) installation/Laying at #300 per sqm _ #87,000 Total is #464,000. Laying materials includes 30 tons of sharp sand or stone dust, 3 bags of cement, #30,000 worth of thick nylon or #53, 000 worth of lighter tarpaulin, renting of compacting machine to be used on the floor before laying and on top of the stones after laying is #25,000. Tpave 08033542484, 07026427704 08185198085

Thanks.

Never knew this thing will chop money like this.

Tpave:
CONCRETE FLOORING. A is 50.4sqm_ B is 429.75sqm _ C is 91.64sqm. Total sqm is 571.79. Materials needed are (1) 205 bags of cement (2) 60 tons of granite stones (3) 20 tons × 4 loads of sharp sand. (4) Renting of compacting machine, labour, water, iron mesh, renting of mixing machine and nylon option depends on the location of the site.

Thanks.

Is gravel not an option?. My place is hard and my project is on a hilltop.

Never knew this thing will chop money like this.

mufutau55:
@TPave
Come give us estimates on this oh.

Hajji M.

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geesampower:
Been following this thread. THERE IS NO SINGLE professional that won't have issues with their client I mean NONE. Toyota is a well established motor company they are responsible for deaths of thousands by the errors in the design of some of their vehicles which lead to the recall of many of their vehicles in the past. How much more we? All the professional builders here have stories to tell. There will be misunderstandings, there will be delays, there will be loses. I wish Egosa just apologized from the beginning and just bear his loses.
I personally don't like what this issue has degenerated to. I am sure many are also saddened and disappointed that this is not getting resolved but getting worse. Why the curses? Why the talk of drunkenness and other issues that shld be left private. This is not good at all.
Please Dr oyewole, you are in the best position to resolve this. From all I have read, you have worked with many builders in the past, you can resolve this.

Hsl, your work is very good, you are good at what you do. Let us only see your professionalism. I think it is best you stay on the sideline in this issue and only play background roles in resolving this (and that shld even be minimal). Least people start seeing you from another perspective. Don't get dragged into this mud with eghosa.

speedy recovery.

Good insights.

@Doc, i will advise that you move on. Trading words with the Contractor on the internet will further delay your project. Cut you loss Get another person to take a look at the project and make the necessary corrections and adjustments. When i was doing my project, i had issues with the person doing the windows. When the delay was getting too much, i just cut my loss by getting another person who now completed the windows and adjusted the bad work that was done.

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PeoplesArmy:
@Aventure, more grease to your elbows.

What is the size of the land for this project?

Where is the 7th flat....the 3 floors will contain 6 flats in all and there are serviced rooms on the ground floor.

@Aventures, congrats but you are yet to respond to the above. The 3D does not seems to show the 7th flat.

This seems to be the hottest thread on property forum for now.

I have asked for assistance on this link.

https://www.nairaland.com/2525341/what-estimated-cost-flooring-interlocking

obezaleel:
call me on 08083960694

You can post it here. Project is in the village. Iam Trying to get the view of experts here so that i can use that to monitor and cross-check what will be done by those in the village.

Please, i need help in the estimation of materials and cost for concrete flooring and interlocking this layout. The layout is divided into Sections A, B, C, D and E.

(1) Section A is for concrete flooring: 35ft x 16ft

(2) Section B is for concrete flooring: 74ft x 63 ft

(3) Section C is for concrete flooring: 52ft x 18ft

(4) Section D is for interlocking: 44ft x 38ft

(5) Section E is for interlocking: 94ft x 16ft

mufutau55:
I will not even agree with the word MOST but I will use the word SOME contractors. When you are talking about Naija business, forget it. And I am not referring to Brabus per say... that goes for all the Contractors we have in Naija... the trust is almost in Nigeria business.

Hajji M.

@Hajji, there is a terrible problem with us Nigerians. If a contractor uses his own money, some of the clients will not want to pay thereby putting the contractor in debts. My Senior brother s a logger of woods for building house. He almost went bankrupt because after getting the wood and even buying from sawmill to avoid delays, getting the money from the client is a problem. It then becomes a back-and-forth thing and meanwhile, you might see the client now living in the house and he will say that there is no money. What he does now is that once the number of wood required has been assessed and you tell him to supply, you have to pay a mobilization. If you pay 100k for instance, he brings in 100k worth.

A contractor came to our office this morning to report one of our staff who has refused to pay him after he (contractor) used his own money to fix wardrobes in his project. The guy is planning to move in but he does not want to pay for the work the guy has done for him. The guy wants to arrest him with police but he just decided to come and report him at the office before he goes ahead.

Another thing i see is that clients do not want to face realities. A client will say that he wants to complete a project is say 6 months but he/she does not even have the total project sum. He will say that the contractor should start and that God will provide. After a phase, there is no more funds and the project is stalled. When he/she now gets some funds after several months, he calls the contractors and says that he/she should come and continue forgetting that material prices have changed and when this is mentioned, he/she points at the contract and he will even say that he now wants to be supplying the materials for you.

In my firm, we always put a caveat that all quotes are valid till a particular period. Once that period elapsed and you want the work to be done after that, we will have to give you a fresh quote.

fash78:
More grill pix

Nice grill. Do you mind sharing the price range of making one.

skimanski:
MUST THANK CLIENT FOR ALL TRUST AND FAITH HE'S HAD IN ME ALL THROUGH THE PROJECT. DESPITE CHALLENGES, I HAVE BEEN SUPPORTED ALL THE WAY. ALSO TO THANK MY ESTEEMED NAIRALAND FOLLOWERS FOR COMMENTS ON THIS PROJECTS MOSTLY THE CRITICAL ONES AS THEY HAVE HELPED ME GROW AND BE MORE PREPARED FOR OTHER FUTURE PROJECTS.

Chai, see finishing. This Igu Street 'boy', you are too much.

Please, if you do not mind, where did you get those chandeliers and possibly price range.

OACKLAND:
m most grateful. it worked just like u said. I followed the directions as given d journey is a lot shorter. just a little above an hour from the ijebu itele junction. God bless you.

Does this Ijebu Itele junction take you straight to Ajah in about an hour without passing through Epe or do you have to pass through Epe to get to Ajah. In addition, what is the state of the road?.

mystiqueDZ:
Yes to boarding school!!...Definitely..

Supported. Boarding school any day, any time for me.

Anamachi3:
For where, I no fit try am o. Coz these kids are badly influenced by some bad students especially nw the trend of lesbianism

endowednicky:
my dear,even in Day school,things happen.............you won't follow ur child to her/his class and sit with them!and you won't b there to monitor them 24/7




Its just the grace of God dat see them through.

@Anamachi3 should also know that even if you decide to leave the child at home and employ teachers to be teaching him/her at home, that does not stop him/her from being badly influenced. We have heard of how children have been molested by their home tutors.

Iam a supporter of the boarding system any day. With the distractions now all over the place, boarding is a better option these days.

BTT:
Wheels are my first and only suspects.

1. Wheel balancing; a conservative way to deal with this is by swopping the rear tyres to the front and vice versa. Test drive to see.

2. Bad wheels. Let your tyre technician check for swollen moulds or twists on your tyres.

3. Bad shafts can also cause this.

Please let's know when and how this is solved.

On the bold, by tyre technician, do you mean the vulcanizer?.

3ace:
Please, have you been able to solve your problem? What did you do?

BTT:
Wheels are my first and only suspects.

1. Wheel balancing; a conservative way to deal with this is by swopping the rear tyres to the front and vice versa. Test drive to see.

2. Bad wheels. Let your tyre technician check for swollen moulds or twists on your tyres.

3. Bad shafts can also cause this.

Please let's know when and how this is solved.

My apologies for not getting back on the thread on my findings.

I went to an auto repair garage and after test driving it, a diagnostics was run and done on it. The car was jacked up and the diagnostics done.

After the diagnostics, a quote was given to me for the following:

(1) Front Hub

(2) Shock Absorber (front)

(3) Hub Bearing

Iam still looking for the money.

Another thing i have noticed is that i started having this issue when i changed my servicing, wheel balancing and alignment place to another. I normally do them in one auto workshop but last xmas, they messed me up by not opening on an xmas weekend and i wanted to travel for xmas. So i had to do them at a filling station. The filling station does not jack up the car. So i have decided to be doing only servicing at the filling station while i look for an auto wheel balancing and alignment shop that jacks up the car to do the wheel balancing and alignment.

VictorAB:
So sorry Kia Sportage and Optima does not come in Manual Transmission.

Yes, you have to go through a Bank for the monthly payment Plan

Thanks. So what is the price range for base Kia Sportage and base Kia Optima and also the price range for monthly repayment option from the banks.

What is the price for Kia Sportage (manual transmission) and Kia Optima (manual transmission). I do not really like automatic transmission and i like to have control when iam driving. Do i have to go through a Bank if i want to do a Monthly payment option?.

timbros:
Can you share the info you got from Fidelity?

https://www.fidelitybankplc.com/index.php/products/savings-account

It is called Fidelity SWEETA Account. I was told by a woman who operates it for her child that they normally do an end-of-xmas party for the kids that have a certain balance.

You can also have a live chat with somebody from their website where you can ask any question. I was particular about the withdrawal conditions because i intend to be depositing a fixed amount every month and may withdraw if need for school fees and i was told from the live chat that i could do that.

timbros:
Thanks.

Can you give me more info on GTBank's kids account?

Iam also interested in this info on GTBank's kids account. I have been hearing so much about Fidelity Bank's kids account. I have asked them a couple of questions online and iam satisfied with their responses. I have almost concluded on opening with them.