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See what voting for the dullard has brought you? Chai Nigerians, vote better next time Anyone but a Hausa/Fulani next time |
See what voting for the dullard has brought you? Chai Nigerians, vote better next time, anyone but another Northerner... |
The answer is simple, split the country in two Northern Republic of Nigeria Southern Republic of Nigeria. In the mean time send these folks back up North.. |
LegendHero:One love my brother. I am only putting an idea out there. As for Igbos, their greatest failing is their arrogance and clannishness. I have said as much in many other posts.. It was their arrogance and unwillingness to accept any northern idea of Northern political influence that led to the infamous Igbo coup. That coup backfired spectacularly and led to the political situation we have today after the Northern counter coup.. So yes the igbos do have their flaws.. Even the constant bleating and chest beating can be tiresome But you can reason with an Igbo, as you can reason with a Tiv, Efik or Deltan. When a Fulani or Kanuri doesnt get his way he soon resorts to cutlass.. |
LegendHero:Then we are not disagreement, the union of Southern peoples in the republic of Southern Nigeria will not be by force as it is with the Hausa/Fulani. It will be by choice. If people dont want to stay they can leave at anytime. It will not be like the current situation where the Hausa/Fulani keep us all in their embrace by force. I respect the Yoruba, our people have faced off many invaders. The Fulani know after the battle of Oshogbo what we are capable of. As do the Dahomians after the Oyo showed them are mettle. The blood of Oduduwa flows in my veins and when I clutch iron I say my blessings to Ogun.. The histories of the Yoruba city states fascinated me as child. The Igbo are not our enemy, we argue with them as one argues with a brother or sister. As I mentioned I have had no issues with any people from South we can live and work together in peace. As for the Northerners *spits..* We will prosper without them.. Any more 'buts' shows that you are an enemy of the people of the South and accept Northern domination.. |
Covidodo:Dont worry bros, it is coming. All great ideas started as exactly that, a seed of one man's imagination.. God bless the coming Southern Republic of Nigeria |
Covidodo:Chai, which igbo man stole your wife? When Southern Nigeria comes, people like you will be sent to camps for re-education. ![]() Southern Nigeria is loading whether you like it or not... my brother ![]() |
Tmb78:Bros I agree my ideological position is very different from the others and often takes others a while to realise what I am saying. In short I am nationalist for Southern Nigeria.. Igbo animosity to Yoruba is as much as a problem as Yoruba animosity to Igbos. But our rivalry isnt murderous, it is more like sibling rivalry. ![]() Shalom |
SpecialAgent:How can I be a Biafran if I an agitating for an independent Southern Nigeria? Go back to your farm. You claim I dont understand economics when you havent provided one economic statistic or metric.. You are the clearest reason why we would be better off without you glorified goat herders.. You are tired of talking to me, no you are tired of being educated that is the issue.. As I said I have met clever Yoruba and Igbo aboard, never a clever Hausa, Fulani or Kanuri. You are proof of that and even one of your own Lamido Sanusi knew it. But your people had to dethrone him to stop him from telling the truth lol.. ![]() Yeye people.. Your end is nigh, I have exposed your lies.. |
Tmb78:You have missed the main point of my posts.. Let me be clear, I have no issues with Tiv, Efik, Ogoni, Yoruba or Igbo man. My only issue is with Hausa, Fulani and Kanuri peoples. I can live any of the former, but I cannot live with the latter peoples. If you feel I favor Yoruba you are wrong? The only thing I will give Igbos is that they saw through the lies of Northerners first. Yoruba's are finally waking up to the real issue with Nigeria THE NORTH... Did you hear any Igbos complaining and taking legal action to stop Amotekun No, they cheered you on..Know your enemy brother, it is not me or any other southern group. It is the North and only the North!!! If you add any 'but' then I know you are an enemy of Southern peoples and accept Hausa/Fulani hegemony. |
SpecialAgent:Earlier you were happily telling me I was a slave and I should accept my station. Once I have informed you of my opinion and why I have come my conclusions, then you start preaching ONE Nigeria Mtchew.. You Northerners think we are stupid. Let me be clear, I have no issues with a Tiv, Efik, Ogoni, Yoruba or Igbo. I just dont have time for Hausa, Fulani or Kanuri for very clear reasons. I dont hate your people, I just dont want to share a nation state with your kin. That is all.. You fear this, because as I explained to another poster economically it would be very damaging for your region. I know many other successful Yoruba and Igbo boys in the diaspora. If Nigeria improved, we would all return home instantly. Sadly you wont have many returnees for your people lol.. Face facts it over, your people pushed it too far and a split between North and South is pretty much inevitable.. We have nothing to lose except for an overbearing neighbour who contributed very little.. |
Covidodo:You have no decent rebuttals so you just spout nonsense Sharrap!! To my smart Igbo and Yoruba lets work together to end Northern Hegemony once and for all.. |
I dont care whether an igbo or yoruba man holds the presidency, anyone but another Hausa/Fulani.. |
Covidodo:I state my origins because half of my family are as Yoruba as they come from Ijebu Ode and Ebute Metta. The other half hail from Anambra. Please stop revising history, Yorubas sided with the Hausa/Fulani in 1967 during the civil war and all years since. So stop this nonsense the collaboration started in 2015, do you think I am a child who was educated only yesterday mumu. mumu Obasanjo wasnt foisted on anyone. He was actually a relatively good leader who got the Paris Club debt cancelled and kickstarted economic growth. Name another Nigerian leader who achieved better economic performance? clown. I like Abiola and although beyond my time I recall everyone from Igbos to Yorubas in family telling me how much they love him. So again you are talking out of your rear end. If any Igbos didnt trust him it is because he was a Muslim. So 3 million dead regardless of your view on what started the war is Crocodile tears?? You are a mumu spits So 30000 Igbo dead in the North due to Hausa/Fulani violence which directly led to Biafra being declared is Crocodile tears ?? Mumu I get it you are a dumb Yoruba tribalist. But tell me this, has an Igbo ever massacred your people? Has an Igbo man ever kidnapped your people or menaced your farms. Was Igbo behaviour the driving force behind the creation of Amotekun? Use your head before it is too late, there is only ONE enemy and he is in the North. Fight the wrong people needlessy and you will continue your own oppression at the hands of Northerners. Other Yorubas now understand, why are you too dumb to see the real problem in Nigeria ![]() You are the kind of man who will be cursing your Igbo neighbour, while a bunch of Fulani are rampaging through your house, looting your stuff, killing your children and raping your wife.. |
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Straightpath:We are not one Nigeria, these are the product of a regressive Northern culture where men have more children than they can raise. They are a Northern problem, send them home to the North.. spits |
Covidodo:As a man who is half Yoruba and half Igbo, stop being dumb. 3 million Igbos lost their lives in an effort to leave the mess that was Nigeria, they paid for their values in Blood. When have Yoruba ever kicked against the system in such a fashion. That some Igbo have sided with Northerners is a shame, but some Yorubas have as well and more frequently. Both groups must support each other to end Northern dominance which has been disastrous for all of Nigeria. My rule is simple, I would rather have anyone but a Hausa or Fulani in power. At least the economy grew under GEJ and OBJ.. Under Northern leadership the economy always went backwards.. I dont even know if you guys are paid Buhari trolls. In the real world Yoruba and Igbo get along well. It is the Northerners who keep to themselves.. |
Miracle1991:Hausa or Fulani Ke? Same difference. Both are Aboki.. If my son complains he wants pepsi instead of coca cola, I remind him both are coke ![]() |
SpecialAgent:Nope afraid not, I know a lot of the Nigerian elite and they are divided by ethnic group I assure you. When I go home to Lagos, I meet Yoruba and Igbo in Ikoyi or Lekki at private functions rarely Hausa/Fulani. Even my mothers union with a igbo man raised a few eyebrows back in the day The Nigerian elite is comprised of circles. As you move closer to the centre some groups dominate. Do you think OBJ ever had as much sway as say IBB. Definately not, he was a Yoruba in a Hausa/Fulani clique and the others made sure he never forgot it. I am not interested in this elite vs the people nonsense argument. Tell that to the 10s of thousands of Igbo souls slain in Northern Nigeria. Tell that to the parents of IPOB members who were killed just for expressing their political right to free speech. Tell that to the victims of Boko Haram and the Chibok girls. Tell that to the soul of the Ken Sarowiwa and his compatriots slain at the orders of Abacha and his henchmen. I know who are the primary problem in Nigeria and no amount of one Nigeria nonsense will change my mind. Save that rubbish for a fool who believes it. |
SpecialAgent:You missed some of my post about Jackie Mason and the Jewish attitude to labour.. Watch it and learn.. I dont copy anyone, I learnt to code from when I was a kid if you had read my previous posts. I have loved finance since I was young and if you were good at maths it was a relatively easy way to make money. Both disciplines have allowed me to travel the world and see different cultures. Also there is nothing wrong with making note of what other successful people are doing. It is how you LEARN and GROW.. If you are happy and comfortable with farming that is admirable and I respect that. But your lack of desire to perceive other possibly more lucrative opportunities illustrates the typical of the somewhat lazy Hausa/Fulani thought process I was talking about. I explain to you the power of computing and you state "I am happy being a farmer". Also please dont pretend you can make as much in the agribusiness as in tech or finance. In Nigeria, agriculture has its place but for our nation to succeed we need to industrialise. In fact with automation, labour's value will fall exponentally and the value of knowledge will only climb ever higher.. The window to be a low cost manufacturer like China and Taiwan once were is closing. Vietnam is currently in that phase and we should be there were it not for garbage leaders.. The FG is your problem if you participate in the charade that the current Nigerian political system... |
SpecialAgent:Google Pre Industrial, Industrial and Post Industrial society and that will give you your answer... Also compare the profits of Nestle one of the largest food producers in the world making 3.95 billion dollars in net income 2019 vs Alphabet (Google) one of the largest tech companies in the world that made 37 billion US dollars 2019. The latter makes many times more money than the former, all with workers comfortably working from air conditioned offices or from desks at home.. Now compare that to the labour intensive nature of the food production..!! Also less workers produce more, with Alphabet's 120,000 workers against Nestle's 350,000 workers.. If you cant understand that, its no wonder Nigeria looks the way it does. You move up the skill chain not down mumu. I have made thousands of US dollars in a few minutes on a good trade can you equally make thousands after a few minutes of work on a farm..? No.. I recall one of my Jewish friends, one of the most successful ethnic groups on the planet telling me about the Jewish mentality to work and to watch Jackie Mason https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ImX57bFpYU Watch at 27 mins as he tells you that he has never seen a Jew who works on a farm. That also tells you everything you need to know. May I remind you Sergey Brin of Google is Jewish as is Mark Zuckerberg of facebook |
Thank you for your response and I genuinely mean that. IMAliyu:I understand what you are saying, but you also need to appreciate you are avoiding the truth with such an answer. One of my favourite writers is Thomas Sowell, an African American and he tackles this exact issue in his book 'RACE'. A complaint often raised by African American activists is that you cannot lump all American blacks together saying they all exhibit specific behaviours. No you can't, but you can say that there are cultural values and behaviours more common to one group than another. That Northern groups be they, Hausa, Fulani or Kanuri have been more prone to violence against both their own kin and other groups like Igbos in particular is unquestionable. You cannot find similar examples of mass massacres of Northern ethnic groups in south, like the pogrom of up to 30,000 Igbos that was the catalyst of the Biafran war. This isn't prejudice its fact. Thomas Sowell remarks upon the fact that as an African American upon completing university when he was having difficulty finding work, it never occurred to him to work as a Fireman or Police Officer, something he would have been more than qualified to do. This was a cultural void that resulted in him not perceiving potential employment opportunities due to his background. A white American youth would have come to a completely different conclusion due to his or her background. We saw this first hand in the United Kingdom when we left during the IBB era. Some other black groups were really struggling and engaging in regressive behaviours primarily as a result of white racism. Some of the newly arrived Nigerians condemned them as animals. Would be wrong to lump them altogether (in part yes), but at the same time you cannot deny as a group a lot of them were engaging in regressive behaviours (multiple children out of wedlock and lack of appreciation for free education for example). This difference was even observed by whites who noticed that black Nigerian children outperformed even white children at schools on average. Even more interestingly when they dug deeper they noticed that Igbo children for example often outscored almost all other groups including whites and were on a par with Jews, Chinese and Indian children. Yoruba children outscored whites as well, but their performance wasn't as marked as Igbo children. Are all Igbos smart? No, but does their emphasis on individualism, meritocracy and wealth creation which is intrinsic to their culture have a role in their success in Britain? Almost definitely.. IMAliyu:Sorry the above is avoiding the truth as well. I do care about the type of criminality specific groups in engage in. I would rather live next door to a Yahoo Boy or a drug dealer. As long as I leave those individuals alone, in all likelihood they will leave me alone. Murderous terrorists, killer herdsmen or murderous kidnappers who have scant regard for life are a completely different matter. Sadly Northern groups engage more in the latter sort of crimes than the former. One set of crimes is a lot more dangerous than the other. Again it isn't prejudice, it is just fact. Also I care little that Northerners are impacted more by this sort of crime. It is a problem mainly generated in your region and if we weren't linked together, it wouldn't be my problem. Much in the same way you and I couldn't care less about civil strife in South Sudan. We don't live there, we are not connected to them and so we don't care. IMAliyu:On this we are not in disagreement. The south can only wrestle back from the North through violence, which would be bad for all parties. Or politically, which is why I take great exception to enablers like Tinubu who allow this rotten system to endure. I saw this dynamic first hand in Britain as they voted to leave the EU. Britain was a major contributor and the loss of its revenue would be a major problem for the EU organisation. They are trying to make this process as difficult as possible for obvious reasons. That Nigerians make very poor political decisions is something we agree on. They often select bad leaders and as a result get poor results. I think the South voting with a common voice would be a healthy counterbalance to Northern political elites. IMAliyu:Interestingly this is where you and I disagree. I think Nigeria would have worked, had it been dominated by the South from independence. The South had higher literacy rates, was more progressive and open to western thinking. If the North had taken a back seat it would have benefited from improved economic performance and maybe over time a balance could have been struck between its more conservative Islamic values and modernity like Dubai. But I will admit the Igbo coup borne out of arrogance, unwillingness to countenance Northern domination or wait for the Northern region to catch up; backfired spectacularly and almost certainly led to the political situation we see today. I will admit it was certainly criminal to kill Tafwa Balewa and Ahmedo Bello. But saying that, the seeds Northern ethnic bias were already shown by Ahmedo Bello with his unmeritocratic 'Northernization policies', so who knows. Now it seems more likely we will split and in all likelihood the North will fall behind economically; landlocked with a less educated population it is inevitable. IMAliyu:As I wont deny the South has its own problems too. Look the North has a very interesting culture, which certainly fascinated me as a child. In many ways in it's precolonial history is more advanced than Southern regions. With a well developed political system of emirates and literary culture. I was astonished that Kano was once part of the great Shonghai empire and Maidguduri once part of Kanu-Bornem. But you must understand I cannot overlook violence that is inflicted against Yorubas and Igbos (I am half Yoruba and Igbo). As for taking credit for the hard works of others. Hardly, I understand your sentiment, but I am truly a self made man. I have met whites who have tried to lord it over me as they are white, when they have achieved little themselves. I am quick to point out my achievements and ask them for theirs by means of comparison. That quickly shuts them up.. ![]() But in truth, I do own an IT company, as I have been programming since I was 6 years old. My first machine was a BASIC computer with 64k of memory. I also taught myself to trade and I now successfully earn income from the market. My mother who is Yoruba, always jokes my instinct to strike out on my own came from my Igbo father. Did I have to work very hard to learn how to code and trade, of course I did. Did I do it in the face of white racists who hated my intelligence of course. Did my father's Igbo values of individualism and hard work play a role in my success, definitely.. ![]() You would be surprised that some whites actually do appreciate the differences between different Nigerians. It is rare, but once or twice when whites have met me in say a bank or seminar, they ask where I originate from? Once I say Nigeria, they often respond, you are probably an Igbo aren't you? If not maybe a Yoruba? Maybe in another universe we could have been allies, but I cant see any prospect for amicable relations between our peoples, so it is best we split and go our separate ways. |
IMAliyu:In general Yes.. I have said in other posts I have worked for nearly 20 years in finance. From Wall Street, The City of London to Marunouchi in Tokyo, I have met many a Yoruba and Igbo in finance, but I have never encountered your people EVER! Some of your ilk of course do work, but a good number of your brethen are lazy. If they work are often involved in simple professions. Southerners are engaged in these illegal activities because they are trying to survive. I dont agree with their activities but at least they are largely non violent. Yahoo boys are criminals of the mind, if you arent fooled you dont lose your cash. Compare that to the criminal antics of your people? Violent Islamic terrorism, with the murder and rape of innocents. Or the herdsmen menace who are overwhelmingly your people, ignoring basic rights to private property and killing anyone who challenges them.. Their activities are highly linked to spate of violent murderous kidnappings across the country. Who is worse? That some of our kin sold their souls and people for cash is a problem. I assure you if I had the power I would execute every last one. Number one on my list would be Tinubu.. Yes we can blame our current state on your leaders incompetencies. The north has ruled under 1.balewa 2.gowon 3.muritala 4.shagari 5.buhari 6.IBB 7.abacha 8.abdulsalam 9.yar adua 10.buhari All of them have been failures. OBJ got our Paris Club debt cancelled and kickstarted economic growth. The economy grew under GEJ despite corruption in his ranks. A lot of his corruption was in effort to buy off your difficult people. That was his mistake, if I was in his shoes I would have eliminated your stubborn politicians.. Like Rawlings did in Ghana... So yes hand power to us. If we fail you can laugh and say 'you are no better'. But I think the biggest fear of your people is that if we succeed you people will be finished. You will never be allowed near the levers of power again. Also the divorce of North and South Nigeria would be even more likely as Southerners would feel vindicated in their view that your people are parasites who contribute nothing. Look at all of Literary, Cultural and scientific icons they are all southerners.. This isnt hatred its fact.. Your people are useless in the main and deep down you know it. |
SpecialAgent:You seem to have missed most of my post In adversity we adapt, your people sit and complain. If I am angry it because of one reason, I have to live in the west to earn decent money and suffer western racism because of your people. Money is good, but not fun when you feel like an uninvited guest in someone's home. This is the experience for all black people in foreign lands. Succeed or fail you will never be fully accepted. Had Igbos or Yoruba run Nigeria, the country would have looked like Japan and I would be happy in Lagos. Sadly we have to leave Nigeria to seek our fortune in the west because of the a group who feel they are "born to rule" but are useless at it. I am no ones pawn because I dont earn my money there. I havent cared for Nigerian leadership for years, especially since GEJ left. The majority of my people if they are still in Nigeria can be found in Ikoyi or Lekki. Trying to keep the country going despite lousy Northern leadership. I gave up on Nigeria because I realised your people are dumb and as long as they hold power the country will not improve. Interesting you couldnt provide any rebuttal to my points. Just useless boasting, typical empty barrel Aboki.. What do you do for a living? Herding goats I would imagine.. |
SpecialAgent:No Igbos and Yoruba are happy to work for a living. That is all I wanted to prove.. Your people are lazy and indolent. In adversity we adapt, your people sit and complain. If I am angry it because of one reason, I have to live in the west to earn decent money and suffer western racism because of your people. Money is good, but not fun when you feel like an uninvited guest in someone's home. This is the experience for all black people in foreign lands. Succeed or fail you will never be fully accepted. Had Igbos or Yoruba run Nigeria, the country would have looked like Japan and I would be happy in Lagos. Sadly we have to leave Nigeria to seek our fortune in the west because of the a group who feel they are "born to rule" but are useless at it. I point out you are an ignoramous and you laugh. Mumu |
SpecialAgent:I run a fund and an IT company in London. I dont kowtow to you imbeciles. I do meet the odd dumb Northerner now and then in central London spending stolen money in town. Whenever I quiz them on what they do for a living they always give me an ignorant smile and run away. They are too stupid to earn their crust through hardwork and industry. So are too afraid to talk to me and reveal their ignorance.. Enjoy the oil money, if you havent noticed oil is at negative prices. I can still sell computer programs and trade the financial markets to make money, what can you do, aboki..?? Igbos had one thing right your people are fools.. |
Tmb78:As a man who is both Yoruba and Igbo, I will tell you this when people asked who would I vote for in the last election, I said no one as both candidates were useless Northerners. I was condemned mainly by Yorubas.. Anyone who took part in that useless election was a mumu. Buhari was a former despot and a tribalist, remaining true to form as president. Atiku was a thieving, opportunist who never condemned Boko Haram or rampaging Herdsmen as they were his kin. Nigeria had a better chance when the election was between GEJ and Buhari. There it is clear, regardless of the odd region going for GEJ. The south west let us down and voted in a clown.. The rest was history.. I am with Nnamdi Kanu on this issue. Northerners will do what is in their interest, even if it is to the detriment of Nigeria. They cannot be changed in that regard.. But Southern Groups can change their allegiances and a good start would be to support each other. Igbos have no problem supporting a Yoruba man and Yorubas should do the same for Igbos.. All Southern groups should work on the basis of anyone but a Hausa/Fulani man. I assure you, within a few short years this country would recover.. I have worked across the US, Europe and Japan in Finance and IT. In all my years I have never met one educated hard working Northerner in my field. I have met plenty of Yoruba and Igbo in places like JP morgan or Goldman Sachs. Not one miserable Hausa... Be it culture or genetics I dont know or care. But those people are a blight on Nigeria.. |
SpecialAgent:Nothing to be proud of, dumb and slow witted.. Were it not for us southerners, you lot would be like Chadians or Nigeriens, poor as well as dumb |
Yoruba and Igbo Amaka.. The Northerners well, I have nothing positive to say. ![]() |
kikero:And our Northern friends are the reason why we have an economy so dependent on Oil exports. Had the political elite which is primarily Hausa/Fulani invested in infrastructure and diversified the economy we wouldnt be in this mess.. We would have reserves in the 100s of billions as well.. Let the South succede and Southern Nigeria will prosper.. |
ZeroAccess:Well if you see a Hausa or Fulani candidate at the next election you now know what to do.. Igbos figured out Northerners a long time ago. How much more evidence do the Yoruba need?? |
unikwa:Exactly... |
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No, they cheered you on..
