Politics › Re: What Percentage Of Idoma Is Muslim? by Noneroone(op): 5:40pm On Sep 08, 2019 |
Chepos1: Agatu don't have much of Muslim, let's say Muslim there is roughly 17-18% of total population are you an Idoma? |
Politics › What Percentage Of Idoma Is Muslim? by Noneroone(op): 4:42pm On Sep 08, 2019 |
I know majority of Idoma people are Christians. There are also a sizable number of Muslims, especially in agatu area.
pls can an idoma person give me a rough estimate of their religious demographics. |
Politics › Re: UN Calls For Urgent Action To End Violence In Nigeria by Noneroone(op): 8:32am On Sep 03, 2019 |
strong words! |
Politics › UN Calls For Urgent Action To End Violence In Nigeria by Noneroone(op): 8:29am On Sep 03, 2019 |
Abuja, Nigeria - The United Nations special rapporteur on extrajudicial killings condemned rising violence across Nigeria and a "lack of accountability" for perpetrators. Agnes Callamard, speaking at a news conference on Monday in Nigeria's capital, said the country needed urgent action to end the "pressure cooker" of violence that has claimed thousands of lives. Nigeria is currently facing multiple conflicts, from attacks by the armed group Boko Haram to fighting between nomadic herders and farmers. "The overall situation that I encountered in Nigeria gives rise to extreme concern ... The warning signs are flashing bright red: increased numbers of attacks and killings over the last five years with a few notable exceptions," Callamard said at a news conference. "If ignored its ripple effect will spread throughout the sub-region given the country's important role in the continent." She condemned police and military "brutality" across the country, and a "generalised system of impunity". "The time is now to prioritise the rule of law and to make it part and parcel of the Nigerian system," especially for those living in extreme poverty, she said. Impunity Cheta Nwanze, an analyst at SBM Intelligence, told Al Jazeera: "In almost two decades of Boko Haram's existence, I can't recall any of the financial backers who has ever been brought to trial ... We've not had a single high-level conviction of a Boko Haram member." The United Nations estimates more than 27,000 people have been killed and an estimated two million others displaced in Nigeria's northeast alone because of Boko Haram. Callamard has been in Nigeria since August 16 and investigated the scope of violence in the country. She has also assessed measures adopted by the government to tackle the killings. In Nigeria's central states, clashes between farmers and nomadic herders over dwindling arable land have killed thousands of people and displaced tens of thousands of others. "Nigeria is a pressure cooker of internal conflict. The absence of accountability is on such a scale that pretending this is not a crisis will be a major mistake," said Callamard. "The increased number of people living in absolute poverty, climate change and desertification, and the increased proliferation of weapons, altogether, these are reinforcing a localised system of violence," she added. The UN special rapporteur also examined safeguards over the use of the death penalty and laws applied by Islamic courts. "I have also considered security repression against Shia Muslims, the indigenous people of Biafra, and against Ogoni people," Callamard said. She noted there had been key decisions made by courts but added, "these are not being implemented. I am hoping that the government will hear my call and demand that court orders are implemented". Nigerian authorities did not immediately respond to Callamard's comments. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/09/calls-urgent-action-violence-nigeria-190902185909859.html?utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_content=5d6dde60145a570001539d68&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3cOp5roCV2xwS25isfH53M34KLAbi5nKgqC0lDJyPzFmfCgOQ6eC4PmEQ lalasticlala mynd44 |
Politics › Soldiers Poured Acid On Saro -wiwa's Body After Execution- Eyewitness by Noneroone(op): 7:41am On Aug 30, 2019 |
Sunday Aborisade, Abuja
An eyewitness , Ibrahim Abdullahi , who was a prisoner when the environmental rights activist , the late Ken Saro - Wiwa , was killed in 1995 by the late General Sani Abacha government , on Thursday, gave his account of how the late Ogoni leader and eight others were killed and buried . He said the soldiers who carried out the execution took their corpses to a bush and poured acid on them before dumping them in a shallow grave . Abdullahi , who was granted a state pardon in June this year by the Governor of Cross River State , Ben Ayade , after spending 30 years in prison , stated this in an interview with journalists at the African Centre for Peace and Development , Abuja. The 52 -year old , who became a prisoner following the death of a man he fought with , was at the centre being run by Senator Shehu Sani to collect some financial assistance to enable him to settle down after his long years of incarceration. The Katsina - born trader said he was in the prison with other inmates when the soldiers brought Saro -Wiwa and three others to join five of their colleagues earlier jailed. He said the military men took over the entire premises on arrival and ordered the warders to go home.
He said the entire area was barricaded with four Armoured Personnel Carriers positioned in different directions . Abdullahi explained that Saro -Wiwa , who was the first to be executed , insisted that he was innocent when he was being led to the gallows . The gallows , according to Abdullahi , was directly opposite the condemned cell where inmates , including the late Musa Yar ’Adua , watched helplessly as they snuffed life out of him . He stated that the environmental rights activist cursed those who framed him and also said the Niger Delta region would never know peace following the great atrocity they had committed . Abdullahi said the soldiers , after killing the nine Ogoni leaders , called some inmates , including himself , to assist in carrying their corpses to a bush inside a tipper for burial. He said , “I was in the cell one day in 1995 when they brought the late Gen . Shehu Musa Yar ’Adua ( retd .) , Senator Shehu Sani and Sanusi Mato. Sani and Mato were transferred to Aba and Owerri prisons respectively on the following day but they left Yar ’Adua in Port Harcourt . “One day in 1995 , soldiers brought Saro - Wiwa and three others from the military barracks and chased away everybody who was not a prisoner . “ Saro - Wiwa , who was chained in the legs and hands , was marched to the condemned cell which was directly opposite the gallows where he and others would be hung . They met the five others who were already in the cell . “One Major Obi , who led the operation , made sure that no warder witnessed the execution . They serviced the gallows which could execute two people at a time . The Attorney-General of Rivers State then came with a file which contained the charges preferred against the Ogoni leaders . “The AG went straight to their cell and read the charges to them and went back. One of them , a lecturer at the University of Port Harcourt , was crying , lamenting that his wife had just given birth to a new baby and that he was observing a dry fast on that day . “Saro - Wiwa maintained that he did not ask anybody to kill anyone but that the Federal Military Government just wanted to kill him . He then said there would never be peace in Ogoni land forever because of the innocent souls that Abacha wanted to sacrifice . After this , the soldiers marched him to the gallows . “They brought out his corpse and put him in a slab and they invited a medical doctor who certified him dead . They called four of us to take his corpse . “That was how they executed them one after the other . One of them was even calling the name of Jesus until he was pushed to the gallows .
“After the execution, Major Obi collected the films of the hanging from the photographer and the tape from the video man and asked us to put all the corpses inside a tipper which was used to covey them and four of us to the bush where they were buried . “The soldiers then poured raw acid on Saro - Wiwa and others when we got to the place called Bolokiri and their bodies melted instantly inside a single pit where they put all of them .” https://punchng.com/soldiers-poured-acid-on-saro-wiwa-after-execution-eyewitness/?fbclid=IwAR1CzZiSpYbjDozQ8GRllj-AlN24Sw8g4N3dfzw6rUsfhu6ZLD8-l27KXDILalasticlala mynd44 |
Politics › Re: The Full List Of All The 371 Tribes In Nigeria by Noneroone(m): 6:00am On Aug 29, 2019 |
Nowenuse: Adaka Boro Do you know the meaning of agitation? did he found any popular organization with known demands from Eastern region? was the sudden creation of republic' of Niger delta an "agitation" against Eastern region or Rebellion against the country? |
Politics › Re: The Full List Of All The 371 Tribes In Nigeria by Noneroone(m): 7:41am On Aug 26, 2019 |
Nowenuse: https://owanassociationusa.org/history/owan-east?start=5
Go through this link. The website belongs to Owan association USA written by Owans themselves. Check the 2nd paragraph and see how they addressed Warrake as an Afemai town.
Cover your face in shame!
I have seen some Ebiras talk about the existence of some Ebira speaking tribe in Cross River and even Benue. I am yet to establish that fact. The fact that most Ebiras may not be talking about this does not mean that they have an ulterior motive. Many Ebiras definitely do not know of this. They only know of the ones who are their neigbours and not someone very far away. The neighbouring Ebira tribes have not even finished uniting themselves yet you want them to go hundreds of miles away to a place unknown to them. This is why I said you need help.
An example for you, cos I like giving solid examples. Idomas claim Igedes & Agatus who are their neighbours, but they do not claim Etulos who are basically a riverine Idoma group who was cut off from them during Tiv expansion into Benue valley, this is inspite of the fact that Etulos share the same Benue with Idomas. Many Idomas I have encountered don't even know of the existence of Etulos. (Now I expect you to reply me on how my example with the Idoma-Etulo relates with your Ebira-Cross river Oshuku people. Cos you don't have a brain to understand analogies when you see one).
No, but Ebonyians, Aniomas and Wawas know that they are all Igbos, just as Taos, Kotos, Opandas, Mozums and sensible Etunos know that they are all Ebiras 
No, I am not an excessively insecured and paranoid fellow like you, this is why I am not even ashamed to acknowledge the weak points of my people.
I have nothing like a middlebelt solidarity in me. Personally, I do not even like the Ebiras as a people neither do I believe in a joint regional identity with them. I only involve in discussions on areas which I have a fair knowledge on. If an Okpe man from Delta state is giving reasons why he is not an Urhobo man, I might interfere if the issue lasts for long cos I know quite much about Delta having lived there for some time. This was why interfered in this Edo north issues not necessarily of a stupid regional alliance with Ebiras. Not everyone reasons like you.
First of all, your bringing in of US analogy in comparison with Nigeria in your last paragraph shows how dumb you are. Everyone in the US overtime integrates into the dominant Anglo-saxon language and culture after arriving there and generations later. This is what has helped USA to be united irrespective of the diverse origins of the people. Had it been most German Americans, Italian Americans, Irish Americans and co were still speaking their native languages and extensively practicing their native cultures like Nigerians, do you think the USA would have been the way it is?
If you think that Nigeria was heaven within the 3 regional governments left by the British, then you have a problem. Middlebelters were against Hausa fulanis in the old northern region and infact the first bloody crisis between Hausa fulanis and middlebelters started in 1956 in Tafawa Balewa town. It was only a matter of time before the whole region went into flames.
Same with the Eastern region, the minorities wanted out and it got bloody in some cases and this was before the unitary system.
The midwestern minorities complained of Yoruba domination and even after getting their region, Urhobos and Aniomas were not happy as they claim that Benin dominated everything. In Delta state now, Urhobos are not happy that Aniomas have the capital. When Rivers and Cross rivers were carved out of the East, immediately the bitter politics of Upland and Lowland tribes started in Rivers state. In Cross river the Ogojas wanted their own state as they believe Calabar dominate everything. In Akwa Ibom, bad blood between the Ibibios, Oros & Annangs. If any country or nation is to go by the cry of every minority or oppressed people for autonomy, then every village would end up being a region and every family a state of their own.
Infact, had the unitary system not been abolished and the Northern & Eastern minorities got their own independent regions, expect serious internal conflicts from these regions, because a particular tribe or coalition of tribes in power will use the autonomous region's excessive power to oppress or intimidate others.
Europe was very very fragmented in the past where every kingdoms lived independently on their own, however, various wars and invasions had to force similar peoples to unite under one state/crown. Many minorities had to sacrifice their identities for this to be possible. This is why no matter how much Catalonia cries for independence from Spain, no neighbouring EU countries will ever support this cos they don't want more divisions in Europe. pls kindly provide an instant where minority agitation got "bloody" in the Eastern region? |
Politics › Re: Biafra : "I’ll Go Anywhere I Want In The World" - Senator Abaribe by Noneroone(m): 5:35pm On Aug 24, 2019 |
He is not blacklisted |
Politics › Re: The Moslem Igbo Village- Simon Ottenburg 1951 by Noneroone(m): 2:27pm On Aug 24, 2019 |
what's the point posting an almost 70 yes stuff? |
Politics › Re: Pictures Of The Four Men That Attacked Ekweremmadu In Germany Has Been Released by Noneroone(m): 2:21pm On Aug 24, 2019 |
Cletus77: This is actually an avenue to detect foreigners and bots used to destabilize Nigeria online...
If they don't know these people they're not Nigerians  but most Africans know popular nollywood stars. |
Politics › Re: Revealed: South-east Governors Afraid Of Travelling Abroad Because Of Kanu’s Thr by Noneroone(m): 1:07pm On Aug 24, 2019 |
NgeneUkwenu: Vanguard is a junk newspaper meant for the brainless IPOB pigs! easy lol...the story is also in Punch. |
Politics › Re: Prof. Chidi Odinkalu Blasts Abike Dabiri by Noneroone(m): 1:03pm On Aug 24, 2019 |
jumobi1: Imagine the US government saying “We also ask those accused in the US to voluntarily turn themselves in, to Nigerian authorities to clear their names, without which the American government would extradite them if relevant international treaties between the two governments are invoked.”
There’s inferiority complex in her statement. The FBI’s facts are not Nigeria’s facts so she shouldn’t draw conclusions based on it until Nigerian authorities have done their own fact finding. She should have simply said the Nigerian authorities are looking at the case. Anyhow sha, my people keep it LEGAL. It is more of ethnic bigotry. This is why we shouldn't even be one country. |
Politics › Re: Nnamdi Kanu Ordered IPOB To Ensure Buhari Is Arrested In Japan by Noneroone(m): 9:41pm On Aug 23, 2019 |
mrvitalis: This guy over steps his boundary most timed
Getting biafra is a pieces of cake if we are smart
The truth is most igbos just went regional government simple so we control out destiny and still have access to free market when did you start referring to yourself as "most Igbos"? |
Politics › Re: Igboyahooboys Trending On Twiter by Noneroone(m): 6:21pm On Aug 23, 2019 |
I hope this one knows what a Twitter trend is. |
Politics › Re: Nigeria: Govt Confirms Arrest Of Ekweremadu's Attackers by Noneroone(m): 5:31pm On Aug 23, 2019 |
Mynd44: Lol
The German police said it isn't crime but when politics go in, the Nugerian government will lean on Germany and the German authorities will have no choice but to take action. Afterall, these peoole are not Germans. It is international politics and the accused people will be surprised at what high powered leverage can get you smh...so you believe this? |
Science/Technology › Re: Emeka Nelson Invents Generator That Runs On Water (Video) by Noneroone(m): 7:55pm On Aug 17, 2019 |
Armaggedon: Though the young man went overboard. I feel you're a little bit harsh. You should still have taught him the right way. what can you teach an old fool who doesn't know his manners. He needs to be flogged for being such a nuisance. |
Science/Technology › Re: Emeka Nelson Invents Generator That Runs On Water (Video) by Noneroone(m): 7:27pm On Aug 17, 2019 |
NPComplete: You see what I said. You have quickly assumed u know my ethnic group or my ethnic bias because u are nothing but another daft IPOB fvck. I see u have quickly abandoned the power sector line u were trying to push. So u agree u just jumped into the thread like a gorilla without thinking. 
A professor was also the person that approved a project where a unilag student proved homosexuality is wrong by using magnets. We all know what happened in the end. Lol. Another lecturer from Maiduguri recently claimed he won an international award and it turned out it was false. Your resort to appeal to authority shows you are not a smart person. Typical IPOB member. The lowest common denominator. 
If u think he is better than u, I understand. For someone like u who hasn't built anything of note or helped in creating any equipment or tool a lot of people have used, this news is great achievement. Unfortunately 5 years time we won't still see anything come out of this project and goats like u will say he is being hated on because he is Igbo so government doesn't want to help him and also call people like me efulefu.
I don't blame u. You can't think higher than your mental capacity. So I understand your frustrations. Keep being frustrated. It won't stop us from saying this project still leaves a lot to be desired. You can choke yourself on some of that generator water. Lol stupid old incoherent punk! So many negative values compressed in one thing called a man. you're a silly, sassy, naughty, uncouth brat and it reflects poorly on your much touted experience that you know not what the power sector encompasses. with just small interaction, your unstable senses oscillated between anger on an invention and IPOB. I assure you it wouldn't take more than a simple medical examination to give you your rightful place in a psychiatric ward because typing a long senseless junk just like you do requires some abnormal inspirations which sane humans like us don't possess. It is clearly exhausting trying to converse with an unhinged social misfit who has been elevated to the status of 'the responsible' by cyberspace freedom. Perish with your ignorance! |
Science/Technology › Re: Emeka Nelson Invents Generator That Runs On Water (Video) by Noneroone(m): 3:29pm On Aug 17, 2019 |
NPComplete: I just checked your profile. You are an IPOB supporter. One of those guys that have lost their abilities to reason and will lash out like a rabid dog. I am not surprised.
I work with private companies and their power supply and nothing concerns me with your personal frustrations. So kill yaself if it hurts so much. LMAO. U succeeded in looking more stupid than before. I will be expecting to say another stupid shit next. Please don't disappoint me. of course it's very easy to see the motivation behind your hatred of the young man's invention. obviously cos of his ethnic background. A project that attracted the interest of a professor and lecturers is what you are hating just cos you have access to the internet. If those on whose theories and laws you based to declare this project 100% impossible were alive they would seek the young man to understand his principles. This is where inventors are better than ordinary assholes. Assholes go to school and become imprisoned by the things the learnt while inventors think and evolve their environment. He is better than you and you can't do anything about it except to kill yourself and life goes on. |
Science/Technology › Re: Emeka Nelson Invents Generator That Runs On Water (Video) by Noneroone(m): 2:56pm On Aug 17, 2019 |
NPComplete: When we say u people are morons now they will say we should not insult u. Another daft Nigerian. You automatically assumed that I have anything to do with your Nigerian power sector. This dumb illiterate doesn't know there are independent power producers in Nigeria. He doesn't also know that Siemens and GE in Nigeria have a power sector business. Hahahaha. Too many morons on Nairaland I swear. No exposure. No intelligence. Look at how u have just exposed yourself. Lol You work with GE and Siemens IN NIGERIA and still claim you have nothing to do with "Nigerian power sector". Work on your reasoning first before disgracing yourself. |
Science/Technology › Re: Emeka Nelson Invents Generator That Runs On Water (Video) by Noneroone(m): 2:41pm On Aug 17, 2019 |
NPComplete: For the avoidance of doubt and for the neutral people who are reading this. I have years of experience in the power sector and with power generation too. All the idiots arguing against me here like lwisee and his moronic twin Valenu probably didn't even graduate from school. And they are here arguing with me. Ask them what kind of experience they have other than asslicking.  No wonder the current state of our power sector. A complete asshole is in their fold. |
Politics › Re: Trump:Obama Place Arm Embargo On Nigeria For No Just Reason by Noneroone(m): 7:33am On Aug 15, 2019 |
Replace 'Nigeria' with 'Jonathan' in your headline and you'll understand Trump better. The presidency ain't getting any jets. |
Politics › Re: Abdulmumin Jibrin Defends Buhari's Tooth-picking Photo By Comparing It To Obama by Noneroone(m): 3:28pm On Aug 14, 2019 |
jubrin defending his brother jubril. |
Politics › Re: Why In Nigeria There Is Tribal,cultural And Religious War And In SA No War by Noneroone(m): 4:22am On Aug 14, 2019 |
morpheus24: Did you read through the sources actually attached in each of the posts or you want me to repost it for you here to show how you are incapable of actually taking the time to look at the information.
if you had looked carefully you would have seen that I also commented on that thread and this is 4 years ago.
I am not sure why some people are so adamant to be set in their way of thinking instead of actually expanding their knowledge base. It bewilders me?
SMH! morpheus24: Did you read through the sources actually attached in each of the posts or you want me to repost it for you here to show how you are incapable of actually taking the time to look at the information.
if you had looked carefully you would have seen that I also commented on that thread and this is 4 years ago.
I am not sure why some people are so adamant to be set in their way of thinking instead of actually expanding their knowledge base. It bewilders me?
SMH! yup! I saw the source and it was a blog isn't it? the blog and the DNA examination were probably managed by you. That was how arrived at the conclusion that Igbo and Yoruba are related. Igbo and Yoruba are one and the same in everything! can you now stop hurting and feel accepted? |
Politics › Re: Why In Nigeria There Is Tribal,cultural And Religious War And In SA No War by Noneroone(m): 11:26pm On Aug 13, 2019 |
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Politics › Re: Why In Nigeria There Is Tribal,cultural And Religious War And In SA No War by Noneroone(m): 10:10pm On Aug 13, 2019 |
morpheus24: for the record I am not Yoruba so I don't know what jealousy you are referring to. It is quite ignorant for a Nigerian to not realize that the person he maybe conversing with is from one of the multiplicities of languages/ethnic groups in their own country only to assume or narrow down feuds to between three groups.
If this is not the case where do Igbo's come from and how can you authenticate this history outside of folktales?
I do not contend this point but this has nothing to do with my earlier statement about a central African for Yoruba peoples
This is just your view point I don't know how much this resonates with other groups from the region. What is true is the Igbo are the largest ethnic group but that does not translate to anything more than that.
The Kwa languages are linked to the Gbe languages of the west. The Yoruba language falls in between these two language phylums. The Kwa language extends back into the camerouns which lends credence to the strong theory that migratory patterns likely occurred from there for speakers of this Language. Another possible route would be "West central" Africa placing the Yoruba and Igbo migrations coming in from what is today known as the the central African republic.
Your problem is that you are stuck in a simplistic identification of people and cannot comprehend that there were proto speakers of certain languages that existed in the past and diverged. I will not argue this with you because it is obvious you do not understand any ot if.
Genetically speaking Yoruba's and every other group to their east are quite similar and related as compared to Sahel and Savannah dwelling peoples and their lineages likely emanate from Proto-Bantu groups that spread across Africa. If you don't understand this please go and read, educate your mind.
The light skin gene variant common in the Igbo and some other groups in Africa is an ancient variation of the SL42a45 gene that gives most non Africans their skin tone. There is nothing special about that and this gene is present in other groups but only more pronounced in Igbos. This is a silly way of pointing out Igbos as they come in many color variants similar to their counter parts in other parts of Africa.
There is nothing Yoruba's need to be jealous about Igbo's. They excel in pretty much every endeavor that is managed by Igbos with the slight difference being Igbos are more industrious while Yorubas concentrate on education to advance their progression.
Good luck with your Biafra, when you get it let's see what you become, until then all na mouth Well I didn't exactly call you Yoruba and you shouldnt think I did if you weren't just assuming their place. Yoruba and Igbo are not related and you have not proven otherwise except your fraudulent recourse to a non existent genetic test. The only ethnic group that has close similarity to Igbos in Nigeria in terms colour, culture, delicacy etc is those From Akwa cross. All other ethnic groups are as dark as they can get. Hey! You cant wish away the place of colour in determining racial differences and similarities and the fair skin tone of the Igbo cannot be downplayed however hard you try. It might interest you to know that some of those other Africans you mentioned also claim South east Nigerian as a place of origin. Again stop using genetics cos gene changes with time. We are all humans with a common source but can't hold together. The English and Germans can't hold together yet they Germanic ancestry. The Jews and Arabs are from Abraham yet they are cat and dog. Genetics does answer a question of whether people can live together culture and compatibility do. We are living in present not past and you have not really stated what connects an Igbo to Yoruba in culture and history. Yes! Yoruba's envy Igbos. That nothing warrants such jealousy is your opinion but the envy is a FACT. |
Politics › Re: Why In Nigeria There Is Tribal,cultural And Religious War And In SA No War by Noneroone(m): 7:39pm On Aug 13, 2019 |
morpheus24: I do not agree. The Yoruba, Benin, Igbo, Kalabari and Efik/Ibibio peoples all migrated very likely from central Africa in their spaces right now, linguistics, genetics and cultural similarities attest to this as compared to Sahelian peoples who would include the Hausa, Chadic, Sudanic peoples who have a more distinct genetic material and culture.
I don't different between political Islamic ideology and the practice of Islam. They are one and the same
I would contend that this is impossible at this time in history. The North is entrenched with Islamic ideology be it moderate or extreme. The Yoruba's are muslims as well but far more progressive in their practice of the religion. As always they have found a way to marry their cultural traditions seamlessly with the Islamic faith. Some will say they are not real Muslims, well that's their opinion. I call them Progressive muslims.
There is more of a contempt for Igbos in the North than a fear as you put it, viewed as a radical and less cultured people if you ask me. In fact I tend to believe it extends to all Southerners in general. Yoruba's trust Igbo's much less because of their relentless drive for wealth to the detriment of developing a progressive culture if you ask me and the other minority tribes in the South fear them because of the potential to dominate.
Igbo's have an insatiable appetite for wealth, which is not necessarily a bad thing but when the quest for this is taken to the extreme where one's morality and ethics are undermined it becomes a problem for any and everyone in close proximity. The individual is glorified in Igbo culture and in Yoruba culture the community is more valued. These values amongst the two groups are in contradiction but are more manageable as against the Hausa/Igbo relationship.
In terms of Nigeria breaking up into three pieces, this is fallacy and for the following reasons.
1. The Igbo cannot create a third region without a consensus of the minority tribes in that area.
2. The middle belt are in a conundrum because they constitute groups that sit in between all three regions. Where will their allegiance lay?
The so called Biafra is not that simple in reality. You sound rather hysterical and insecure instead of reasonable. Your opinion about Igbo's confirm my earlier submission about the notorious jealousy of Yoruba's towards Igbos and how they can't be in the same country. Your claim that Igbos, Yoruba Efik etc all came from one place "likely" central Africa is not only stupid but show how far you guys can go in giving your ruthless determination to attach to the people you "trust less" a fake historical backing. The question is why doing this for a people you don't trust? Igbo had historical relations with every group in the south except Yoruba. They shared a kingdom with Edo, Isoko, Urhobo. In fact some Isoko communities have Igbo origins. Igbos and Efik Ibibio are almost one. They share most cultures and even in appearance. Most ijaws have Igbo blood in them. Many of them speak Igbo as well as ijaw. In fact, opobo and bonny almost speak only Igbo. The Igbos and eastern cousins are inseparable for Igbo is the uniting force in the eastern region. The truth is there was never any sort of precolonial relations between Igbo and yoruba. Even a foreigner can spot an average Igbo in the midst of Yoruba's for being fairer. So carry your recent genetic fabrications elsewhere Mr genetic expert. I repeat, whatever you think doesn't matter. The fact remains no ethnic group trust Yoruba. Mid west was the only state created in Nigeria where Yorubas were rejected in a referendum. Yoruba's envy Igbos in every thing not just economic prosperity. As for your usual rants on Biafra. You must fight to win true independence and Biafran movement is the only movement fighting for independence, not southern Nigeria or oodua. You usual rant about eastern minorities will remain a wish or at least, just a rant. |
Politics › Re: Why In Nigeria There Is Tribal,cultural And Religious War And In SA No War by Noneroone(m): 8:15am On Aug 13, 2019 |
morpheus24: 1.The Fulani's brought Islam into the country which added to the already strong cultural differences between the North and the South, creating a much more conservative religious way of life in the North compared with the much more liberal and progressive society in the South.
2. Nigeria has two many ethnic groups concentrated in one area that never had the opportunity to merge naturally into smaller less ethnic- diverse states. South Africa on the other hand emanate from the more or less the same founder populations and are therefore more linguistically and culturally similar to one another, coupled with facing a similar enemy mitigated the issue of Tribalism.
3. I do believe Nigeria needs to separate between North and South amicably as the South has a more better chance of integration with its varying groups as they have done naturally through the centuries. Its not a definite that the South will survive but the odds are far better. The Fulani didn't bring Islam into the North, they brought radical Islam. moderate Islam had been in existence in the north centuries before the Dan fodio conquest. It was brought by individual Hausa merchants. There were Hausa Islamic scholars before Dan fidio conquest. Dan fodio only used radical Sunni Islam as a religious back up tool for Fulani conquest. |
Politics › Re: Why In Nigeria There Is Tribal,cultural And Religious War And In SA No War by Noneroone(m): 7:22am On Aug 13, 2019 |
Tumbulum: I believe that the southern part of the country can live together and succeed. They could form their own country and be successful. Even though Yoruba's and Igbo's seems not to like themselves which stems from our political differences, these two groups hardly fight themselves. These two groups can reach an agreement and adhere to it. These two most importantly believes in negotiations. They share similar values,believes in education, values humans lives and are generally peaceful. Cut off the North from the south and see an accelerated development of the south. The Yoruba and Igbo are just as unrelated as with the Hausa. Remember the problem is not really the Hausa but the Fulani. The problem is not just Islam but political Islamic ideology being driven from the Fulani caliphate. The Fulani control the Hausas and Northerners with extreme Islam whose values is at variance with those of development. The Fulani aspirations of islamic conquest contradicts the development needs of the Hausas and aspirations of the other Nigerians. You need to understand how religious hegemony works. You will always have willing tools who see being used as religious obligation. Therefore the Fulani controls the north and the country by extention and do everything they want, at the same time not officially held accountable for them. With this they can even sabotage and destroy the country when the interest of the people doesn't accord with their conquest agenda. This is the problem. Theoretically, if the north wants to end 70% of its problem, they need a revolution that will disband the caliphate, the emirate and Fulani Sunni extremism. Enthrone moderate Islam and Hausa traditional system. Like I said if that is done you would see the Hausa is just as different as the Yoruba to an Igbo. The Hausa is also peaceful and doesn't kill, they love to learn, they love to see foreigners live and build their land. This was what Fulani took advantage of to conquer them and destroy their land. The Hausas can only fear the so called Igbo domination but they neither hate nor jealous the Igbo the way Yoruba's do. Igbos envy no one but Yoruba's envy the Igbos. Envy is a dangerous thing and Yoruba's have it. a Yoruba may not have the liver to kill physically but can incite killings out of envy. They need Igbos in their land but still envy and hate them. This is a situation which defies logic. This is why Yoruba's are the only people that want the republic of southern Nigeria and not their own independent homeland. This is for those who dare to support separation as most of them prefer a united Nigeria no matter the odds. Everyone knows Biafra is the political aspiration of Igbos. Nigeria is breaking into Three. |
Politics › Re: Northerners Will Suffer If Nigeria Breaks Up – Dr. Ahmad by Noneroone(m): 12:20am On Aug 12, 2019 |
Glorymax: We can remain one country but let us go regional, develops at ur pace You can remain in Nigeria when others leave. |
Politics › Re: Nigeria Will Break Up, North Will Suffer – Sheikh Gumi by Noneroone(m): 11:18pm On Aug 11, 2019 |
YorubaHero12: Even Ojukwu will be amazed in his grave with this your lies. The Igbos since time immemorial have always been economic refugees. I watched a video where the Saraduna was talking about evicting all Igbos from his area during the regional government. You’ve always been nomadic right from time. I quoted you too early. I just read your preceding gibberish. I haven't got time for senseless ethnic champions. |
Politics › Re: Nigeria Will Break Up, North Will Suffer – Sheikh Gumi by Noneroone(m): 11:00pm On Aug 11, 2019 |
Printerscanner: In the first Republic when Nigeria practised Regionalism, it was only Igbos that were running to other regions. Yorubas stayed in their region to develop it, Hausa/Fulanis went to other regions to sell their cows and return home while Igbos went to other regions to live permanently because Igbo region was not developed and will never be developed, even Ijaws, Urhobo, Itshekiri and others stayed in their home towns. Only Igbos can't live without other tribes. lies. There were a large number of Northerners and westerners and even Ghanians and Cameroonians in the East before the civil war. But Easterners in other parts of the country were more visible because of their relative prosperity and economic influence. |
Politics › Re: Aerial View Of Oshogbo by Noneroone(m): 9:55pm On Aug 10, 2019 |
KahlDrogo: Red mud Shiite caliphate.  That is Ogun state |